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Reply #240 posted 04/28/18 4:05am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

one thing to remember about the lifespan of some of these drives is they wear out or go bad when used over and over reading and writing... but if you just write once and leave it alone it could last for a long time.


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Reply #241 posted 04/28/18 10:07am

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love2thenines2003 said:

luvsexy4all said: The Deluxe project was abandoned just few weeks ago, I heard however that the songs on the new unreleased album'2 come in September might be fulfilled by Trax from 1999 era....but this is not a news ....so....?....wait and see

Why was that?

u would think they would flood the market....WHY NOT?

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Reply #242 posted 04/28/18 1:50pm

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love2thenines2003 said:

luvsexy4all said:

no ones mentioned the 1999 remaster than evaporated




The Deluxe project was abandoned just few weeks ago, I heard however that the songs on the new unreleased album'2 come in September might be fulfilled by Trax from 1999 era....but this is not a news ....so....?....wait and see

I wonder why, I don't mind more deluxe releases with a bonus disc of unreleased material.
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Reply #243 posted 04/28/18 2:20pm

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if they do a 1999 deluxe I want the other version of Possessed on it

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Reply #244 posted 04/29/18 5:32am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

if they do a 1999 deluxe I want the other version of Possessed on it

Me too, that version absolutely deserves an official release.

[Edited 4/29/18 5:32am]

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Reply #245 posted 04/29/18 5:38am

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jaawwnn said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

if they do a 1999 deluxe I want the other version of Possessed on it

Me too, that version absolutely deserves an official release.

[Edited 4/29/18 5:32am]

I don't know if this one does exist in the Vault but i'd like to see release the Demo / Alternate take or longer version of the song "All the critics love u in NY" in my top 5 best ever song written by Prince IMO !

[Edited 4/29/18 5:39am]

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Reply #246 posted 04/29/18 7:04am

soladeo1

OnlyNDaUsa said:

if they do a 1999 deluxe I want the other version of Possessed on it



Regarding a 1999 Deluxe how does this look??

D1:
1999
Little Red Corvette
Delirious
Let's Pretend We're Married
D.M.S.R.
Automatic
Something In The Water (Does Not Compute)
Free
Lady Cab Driver
All The Critics Love U In New York
International Lover
CD2:
Purple Music
How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore?
Lust U Always
Possessed (Alernate Version)
Horny Toad
You're All I Want
Turn It Up
U Should Be Mine
Yah, U Know
If It'll Make U Happy
Don't Let Him Fool Ya
Fox Trap
No Call U
Moonbean Levels
Plus 1 concert:
3 March 1983: Bloo
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Reply #247 posted 04/29/18 7:32am

JorisE73

soladeo1 said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

if they do a 1999 deluxe I want the other version of Possessed on it

Regarding a 1999 Deluxe how does this look?? D1: 1999 Little Red Corvette Delirious Let's Pretend We're Married D.M.S.R. Automatic Something In The Water (Does Not Compute) Free Lady Cab Driver All The Critics Love U In New York International Lover CD2: Purple Music How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore? Lust U Always Possessed (Alernate Version) Horny Toad You're All I Want Turn It Up U Should Be Mine Yah, U Know If It'll Make U Happy Don't Let Him Fool Ya Fox Trap No Call U Moonbean Levels Plus 1 concert: 3 March 1983: Bloo


Your missing the obvious ones like Extra Loveabel, Irresistable Bitch and Feel U Up.

From The Vault:

Baby, I'm A Star
Bold Generation
Boom, Boom
Can't Stop This Feeling I Got
Colleen

Do Yourself A Favor

Don\t Let Him Fool Ya

Extra Lovable
Feel u Up
Fox Trap
Girl O My Dreams

I Coiuld Never Take The Place Of Your Man

If It'll Make U Happy

Irresistable Bitch

Jerk Out

Lust U Always

Mia Bocca

Money Don't Grow On trees
Moonbeam Levels
Moral Majority
My Baby Knows How To Love Me
New Position
No Call U
Purple Music
Raspberry Beret
Rearrange

Strange Relationship
Teacher, Teacher

Too Much
Turn It Up
U Should Be Mine
Vagina
Wouldn't You Love To Love Me?
Yah, U Know
You're All I Want
You're My Love

And of course the remixes and B-sides.

That's a pretty impressive period next to the Vanity 6 Album and What Time Is It? which probably also exist with Prince's vocals.

This could be a huge set and as was mentioned earlier here on the site on some other topic, this apparently was a way more impressive and and better musical period than the Purple Rain era.
If only we could hear all of this wink

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Reply #248 posted 04/29/18 7:33am

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soladeo1 said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

if they do a 1999 deluxe I want the other version of Possessed on it

Regarding a 1999 Deluxe how does this look??

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Why would you think them folks that cannot deliver a similar PR, will deliver a 1999 like that?

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Reply #249 posted 04/29/18 7:37am

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udo said:

soladeo1 said:

OnlyNDaUsa said: Regarding a 1999 Deluxe how does this look??

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Why would you think them folks that cannot deliver a similar PR, will deliver a 1999 like that?


Who knows, it seems that lately they're getting their shit together.
Give them a little time.
I mean imagine you get to go through the whole Vault.
It's going to take them years to catalogue it properly. Things have changed since PR "Deluxe".

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Reply #250 posted 04/29/18 9:58am

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bonatoc said:

udo said:

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Why would you think them folks that cannot deliver a similar PR, will deliver a 1999 like that?


Who knows, it seems that lately they're getting their shit together.
Give them a little time.
I mean imagine you get to go through the whole Vault.
It's going to take them years to catalogue it properly. Things have changed since PR "Deluxe".


Yeah, wasn't PR Deluxe composed solely of things that WB was already in possession of? Thought I heard that...

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Reply #251 posted 04/29/18 12:29pm

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TheEnglishGent said:


Join forces and do what? We can't even all agree on a single disc for Emancipation. Letting us loose on picking which vault tracks should be released would just end up in an all out war. lol


Yeah, THAT!! We are absolutely NOT all in agreement. lol

Damn, it doesn't matter, does it ?

All these different differences.

We're all still PRINCE FANS !!

Right ?!

STAND PURPLE !

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Reply #252 posted 04/29/18 1:23pm

OnlyNDaUsa

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TheEnglishGent said:

Vannormal said:

Well.

We could always join forces.

Put together sort of a 'letter',

or a 'petition',

to let them know, that (hard core & other) fans (mostly) have a greater, bigger 'innervision' opinion on all things purple.


Join forces and do what? We can't even all agree on a single disc for Emancipation. Letting us loose on picking which vault tracks should be released would just end up in an all out war. lol

we can not agree on a 4CD version!

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Reply #253 posted 04/29/18 9:37pm

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soladeo1 said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

if they do a 1999 deluxe I want the other version of Possessed on it

Regarding a 1999 Deluxe how does this look?? D1: 1999 Little Red Corvette Delirious Let's Pretend We're Married D.M.S.R. Automatic Something In The Water (Does Not Compute) Free Lady Cab Driver All The Critics Love U In New York International Lover CD2: Purple Music How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore? Lust U Always Possessed (Alernate Version) Horny Toad You're All I Want Turn It Up U Should Be Mine Yah, U Know If It'll Make U Happy Don't Let Him Fool Ya Fox Trap No Call U Moonbean Levels Plus 1 concert: 3 March 1983: Bloo

What about the alternate versions, specially Something In The Water alternate version, which is masterpiece.

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Reply #254 posted 04/30/18 1:10am

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eyewishuheaven said:

bonatoc said:


Who knows, it seems that lately they're getting their shit together.
Give them a little time.
I mean imagine you get to go through the whole Vault.
It's going to take them years to catalogue it properly. Things have changed since PR "Deluxe".


Yeah, wasn't PR Deluxe composed solely of things that WB was already in possession of? Thought I heard that...


It explains the glitch, the disappointing sound of "Wonderful Ass" compared to some bootlegs, etc.

NC2U comes from the Vault / the estate, from what I understand through some association with WB,
I seem to recall Girlsongs ASCAP was administered by Warner Chappell editions,
as most of Controversy Music ASCAP output,
but it's all very complicated and that was eons ago and maybe I'm blabbering.

So Warner may have access to media platforms to launch the products,
they may have publishing rights from the eighties still,
but the juice is going to be squeezed from the Archer
(my own nickname for the Vault).

They probably have decent acetates of the compiled cancelled albums of 1986 in Burbank, but nothing more.


As for the estate, they don't want to do it a dozen times.
This is top-notch digital restoring, it's 24bits 192kHz,
it costs a fortune, it's overkill,
but it's the least we can do with on of the best works in Pop music.

Preserve it at frequencies that only bats and dolphins can hear.
Animal Kingdom rules!



[Edited 4/30/18 1:22am]

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Reply #255 posted 04/30/18 2:20am

scorp84

In the #metoo era we now live in, fans can only hope and pray that the original, unedited “Extraloveable” sees an official release anytime in the future.
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Reply #256 posted 04/30/18 2:41am

JorisE73

scorp84 said:

In the #metoo era we now live in, fans can only hope and pray that the original, unedited “Extraloveable” sees an official release anytime in the future.



I think people can handle Prince singing a rape line in context of a song instead of thinking he immediatly raped every person he's been in contact with. I know this is hard for all for all these weak and hyper sensitive SJW types these days to handle but honestly what is next, burning books and movies that depict rape?

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Reply #257 posted 04/30/18 2:48am

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JorisE73 said:

scorp84 said:

In the #metoo era we now live in, fans can only hope and pray that the original, unedited “Extraloveable” sees an official release anytime in the future.



I think people can handle Prince singing a rape line in context of a song instead of thinking he immediatly raped every person he's been in contact with. I know this is hard for all for all these weak and hyper sensitive SJW types these days to handle but honestly what is next, burning books and movies that depict rape?

It'd be really interesting to see how it would be taken if released. I mean, Prince effectively agreed that a song with those lyrics wasn't fit to be released. Do we damn him for music and thoughts made in private now? Hell, if you think an artist must be a saint at all times then Prince told you to give up on him in the lyrics to Electric Chair.

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Reply #258 posted 04/30/18 4:06am

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jaawwnn said:

JorisE73 said:



I think people can handle Prince singing a rape line in context of a song instead of thinking he immediatly raped every person he's been in contact with. I know this is hard for all for all these weak and hyper sensitive SJW types these days to handle but honestly what is next, burning books and movies that depict rape?

It'd be really interesting to see how it would be taken if released. I mean, Prince effectively agreed that a song with those lyrics wasn't fit to be released. Do we damn him for music and thoughts made in private now? Hell, if you think an artist must be a saint at all times then Prince told you to give up on him in the lyrics to Electric Chair.

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It doesn't mean they can't be an entry in Prince's journal, or rather, letters,
where the intimate relationship was consumated enough for the rape line to be understood as furious sexual frustration, being from the distance, or break-up, who knows, but Prince wouldn't rap like that to a girl he knows wouldn't understand.


I agree, some pages of SKipper's Journal are better left off wandering for our fun only.

Apparently Minnesotans troubadours can get harshly angry at women who break their cow-boys heart.
Do-wrong women again... They deserve a good spank for the easy resort to retaliation.
Poor woman whose memory make them cow-boys write such laser-cutting poetry.

There is a pop artist quite popular in France, Orelsan,
and his first underground self-released song was him
insulting his ex, but written and delivered in such manner
than all is left is the pain, the heartache, and sex is not the issue.
Although, he insults the girl for the whole damn song.

"Rape U if I must" is just a graffiti on Hi School showers walls, in SKipper's Dirty Mind.
That's what makes Purple Rain so great, the restraint in the Punk.
But Prince was forever changed by romantics.

From the first images, you can tell Purple Rain is a punk movie at heart.
The pinball, the KISS fan, Tony M doing the snake, sweat, hair, smell,
The romantic cut of a blood red rose.

It sounds as if Prince was trying to go Stooges-Funk with such a line. The extreme.
I could almost picture Iggy whispering "Rape you if i must" in Funhouse's Dirt.

But of course not a single of these troubadours are going to rape nobody.

They have manners.



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The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
No Child's a failure
Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams
Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose
Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams
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Reply #259 posted 04/30/18 4:30am

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scorp84 said:

In the #metoo era we now live in, fans can only hope and pray that the original, unedited “Extraloveable” sees an official release anytime in the future.

One of my grail trax. I fear, in the environment we are in now, the original unedited version will never be officially released. sad

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Reply #260 posted 04/30/18 5:42am

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sulls said:

scorp84 said:

In the #metoo era we now live in, fans can only hope and pray that the original, unedited “Extraloveable” sees an official release anytime in the future.

One of my grail trax. I fear, in the environment we are in now, the original unedited version will never be officially released. sad

I do not see any reason not to release it as is. And I have been in debates over this for decades.

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Reply #261 posted 04/30/18 6:22am

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bonatoc said:

udo said:

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Why would you think them folks that cannot deliver a similar PR, will deliver a 1999 like that?


Who knows, it seems that lately they're getting their shit together.
Give them a little time.

.

So they do not even have a somewhat vague project goal?

Like: Let us do a few aborted albums first?

Or: Let us do a few live shows first?

Or: Let us do a few remastered albums first with at least 4 discs each?

They shared zero with us.

As if we're still teens.

THEY have to grow up as they do not have their shit together.

We have the money ready.

And they do not even have a plan.

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Reply #262 posted 04/30/18 6:45am

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Did I miss where the interview said album? The interview reads like it could just be one song, but the article itself says album.

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Reply #263 posted 04/30/18 6:48am

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alandail said:

Did I miss where the interview said album? The interview reads like it could just be one song, but the article itself says album.

That is why some think it is a live show. The best guesses are either the Aug 3, 1983, or June 7, 1984 show.

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Reply #264 posted 04/30/18 6:57am

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Troy talked in the interview about a "full length album" and said Michael Howe found special "pieces of work" including the one they choose for the september release which for me clearly stands for "studio work".

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Reply #265 posted 04/30/18 7:00am

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i don't really get why the wording has to be so excruciatingly difficult to gauge sad

it seems like it always was and always will be the case with prince releases lol

never do we get a straight up announcement or press release. we always have to
pick apart at the fabric of the general and vague statements to deduce what *may*
be released.

remember the PR deluxe announcement? 2 albums worth of unreleased material
etc.

disbelief

how difficult is it to say 'an album', 'a group of studio tracks' or 'a live show' ? no, it
has to be 'a piece'. when have you ever heard a record label say that about a new
album, *without* mentioning the actual word album or lp?

rolleyes




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Reply #266 posted 04/30/18 7:10am

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hmm, read the original interview again and it's actually pretty clear that
it will be an album of studio material.

so ignore my previous post lol


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Reply #267 posted 04/30/18 7:15am

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fredmagnus said:

Troy talked in the interview about a "full length album" and said Michael Howe found special "pieces of work" including the one they choose for the september release which for me clearly stands for "studio work".

His use of "one of the pieces" seems to mean something that was already together... as one.

He also seemed to be intentionally vague and to be having a bit of fun with it. But he did say they were putting the "finishing touches" on it. Which could mean Mixing, adding music, cleaning up, working on the EQ/Balance, or even packaging and whatnot?

But I am stoked!



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Reply #268 posted 04/30/18 7:42am

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What intrigues me is where will the commercial cut off point be? If a CD is released & it bombs realistically where would a large corp' like WB / spotify etc go with it? P , like MANY other struggled to shift units when he was alive with Live gigs being the main source of immediate project related income.

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Reply #269 posted 04/30/18 7:54am

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PURPLEIZED3121 said:

What intrigues me is where will the commercial cut off point be? If a CD is released & it bombs realistically where would a large corp' like WB / spotify etc go with it? P , like MANY other struggled to shift units when he was alive with Live gigs being the main source of immediate project related income.

I have the same thought... it is not like there are 20 Purple Rains in there. I think what will happen in the next 10 years is large sets... like a box of 10 concerts. Or 5 CD set of all sorts of things. This idea of an album a year for 100 years... is not going to work.

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