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Reply #90 posted 04/21/18 9:45am

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purplerabbithole said:

I hope not> I hope they were real pictures and not Shadidi's attempt to promote his daughter after P had died. That would be heartbreaking. The problem is that it is hard to know where truth ends and illusion begins--its confusing.



Am I understanding that P used that room when he was alive as a staged room and that he just really slept in a more plain and private setting. If that is the case, then the pictures were probably real.



rogifan said:


purplerabbithole said:

In a way I am relieved they didn't show his real bedroom. But in a way I am annoyed that they can not just be honest. That real bedroom is sad and profound, and not the tacky monstrosity they staged. Where the pictures staged too??



So the stuff in that bedroom wasn’t his? They brought it in to stage the room?



Are you suggesting that Afshin staged a room at Paisley Park so he could take his daughter through it as PR for her? I’m confused at what you’re suggesting.

Seems very few knew of Prince’s real bedroom where he actually slept.
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Reply #91 posted 04/21/18 9:57am

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PennyPurple said:



purplerabbithole said:


I hope not> I hope they were real pictures and not Shadidi's attempt to promote his daughter after P had died. That would be heartbreaking. The problem is that it is hard to know where truth ends and illusion begins--its confusing.



Am I understanding that P used that room when he was alive as a staged room and that he just really slept in a more plain and private setting. If that is the case, then the pictures were probably real.






At this point, I hate to be a debbie downer, but in my opinion I think everybody associated with Prince are hell bent on promoting themselves at the expense of Prince.


The cynicism/negativity is just so sad to me.

I love what Shelby J. said st the concert last night: “spreading joy, positive vibes only”. It was an amazing experience that only happened because people associated with Prince made it happen. And it was all about him, not them.
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Reply #92 posted 04/21/18 10:05am

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PennyPurple said:



purplerabbithole said:


I hope not> I hope they were real pictures and not Shadidi's attempt to promote his daughter after P had died. That would be heartbreaking. The problem is that it is hard to know where truth ends and illusion begins--its confusing.



Am I understanding that P used that room when he was alive as a staged room and that he just really slept in a more plain and private setting. If that is the case, then the pictures were probably real.






At this point, I hate to be a debbie downer, but in my opinion I think everybody associated with Prince are hell bent on promoting themselves at the expense of Prince.


I'm thinking that as well. Such a drag.
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Reply #93 posted 04/21/18 12:54pm

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rogifan said:

purplerabbithole said:

I hope not> I hope they were real pictures and not Shadidi's attempt to promote his daughter after P had died. That would be heartbreaking. The problem is that it is hard to know where truth ends and illusion begins--its confusing.

Am I understanding that P used that room when he was alive as a staged room and that he just really slept in a more plain and private setting. If that is the case, then the pictures were probably real.

Are you suggesting that Afshin staged a room at Paisley Park so he could take his daughter through it as PR for her? I’m confused at what you’re suggesting. Seems very few knew of Prince’s real bedroom where he actually slept.


I haven't heard anyone suggest that Afshin staged the room- I said in an earlier post that tourist attraction formerly known as Paisley Park did. This room existed pretty much like this at the time he died, but some things have been moved and "placed" to make it a little more of a show space.


That being said - and as a few of us have said multiple times in this thread - this was NOT his bedroom... more like a living room in his residential area of the building. Think about it - who has their bedroom as the first room you enter of their home/apartment? That stained glass door is the primary entrance from the "business" part of Paisley Park, as this large room with the ultra tacky bed used to be his office. His actual bedroom was a very plain and very human space, with an attached bathroom.


My guess is that the pictures and video from Vogue are just the first hint of a new "higher level" tour that PP will offer, which will include some of the upstairs space, including this room.

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Reply #94 posted 04/21/18 2:07pm

rogifan

kdavis said:



rogifan said:


purplerabbithole said:

I hope not> I hope they were real pictures and not Shadidi's attempt to promote his daughter after P had died. That would be heartbreaking. The problem is that it is hard to know where truth ends and illusion begins--its confusing.



Am I understanding that P used that room when he was alive as a staged room and that he just really slept in a more plain and private setting. If that is the case, then the pictures were probably real.




Are you suggesting that Afshin staged a room at Paisley Park so he could take his daughter through it as PR for her? I’m confused at what you’re suggesting. Seems very few knew of Prince’s real bedroom where he actually slept.




I haven't heard anyone suggest that Afshin staged the room- I said in an earlier post that tourist attraction formerly known as Paisley Park did. This room existed pretty much like this at the time he died, but some things have been moved and "placed" to make it a little more of a show space.




That being said - and as a few of us have said multiple times in this thread - this was NOT his bedroom... more like a living room in his residential area of the building. Think about it - who has their bedroom as the first room you enter of their home/apartment? That stained glass door is the primary entrance from the "business" part of Paisley Park, as this large room with the ultra tacky bed used to be his office. His actual bedroom was a very plain and very human space, with an attached bathroom.




My guess is that the pictures and video from Vogue are just the first hint of a new "higher level" tour that PP will offer, which will include some of the upstairs space, including this room.



Well I’m still confused (and not about PP staging certain areas)...what does this have to do with Afshin’s daughter and her career? Sick of people assuming anyone Prince ever knew is just using him to further their careers. Such BS.
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Reply #95 posted 04/21/18 2:29pm

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Well I’m still confused (and not about PP staging certain areas)...what does this have to do with Afshin’s daughter and her career? Sick of people assuming anyone Prince ever knew is just using him to further their careers. Such BS.

Ok - Yara is a fairly high profile personality. The Estate (and Paisley Park - the tourist attraction) wanted to have "positive" publicity around the time of Celebration to counter the end of the blackout of information around the investigation. The coverage in Vogue, involving Yara, reached a whole different audience than those of us here, so what "regular" people are seeing is positive, "oh, wow" images of Paisley Park, Prince, etc... which helps business. Neither Yara nor Afshin have done anything wrong, they are simply hired hands in a PR push.

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Reply #96 posted 04/21/18 2:37pm

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That makes sense. Maybe they have good intentions but i would prefer the truth. Its more profound. That garish bedroom is like a Prince stereotype. No wonder, she was laughing...LOL.

kdavis said:

Well I’m still confused (and not about PP staging certain areas)...what does this have to do with Afshin’s daughter and her career? Sick of people assuming anyone Prince ever knew is just using him to further their careers. Such BS.

Ok - Yara is a fairly high profile personality. The Estate (and Paisley Park - the tourist attraction) wanted to have "positive" publicity around the time of Celebration to counter the end of the blackout of information around the investigation. The coverage in Vogue, involving Yara, reached a whole different audience than those of us here, so what "regular" people are seeing is positive, "oh, wow" images of Paisley Park, Prince, etc... which helps business. Neither Yara nor Afshin have done anything wrong, they are simply hired hands in a PR push.

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Reply #97 posted 04/21/18 5:39pm

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malbena said:

Vashtix said:



malbena said:


Rev said:




I know. They're together now wink



So agree with this!

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Just hard for some people to accept Vanity was the one.

It is hard for them to accept that a picture of Vanity Denise Katrina Matthews was on one of Prince’s night stand tables in one of his bedrooms. Prince had more than one bedroom in Paisley Park. No one finds it odd that he had no picture of his EX-wives Mayte or Manuela but a picture of Vanity. And the fact that Prince wanted to give $15,000 each to Brenda, Susan and Apollonia but no mention of Mayte Garcia or Manuela Testolini. Hmmm
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Reply #98 posted 04/21/18 6:11pm

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voph said:

malbena said:
Just hard for some people to accept Vanity was the one.
It is hard for them to accept that a picture of Vanity Denise Katrina Matthews was on one of Prince’s night stand tables in one of his bedrooms. Prince had more than one bedroom in Paisley Park. No one finds it odd that he had no picture of his EX-wives Mayte or Manuela but a picture of Vanity. And the fact that Prince wanted to give $15,000 each to Brenda, Susan and Apollonia but no mention of Mayte Garcia or Manuela Testolini. Hmmm [Edited 4/21/18 17:40pm] [Edited 4/21/18 17:41pm] [Edited 4/21/18 17:42pm] [Edited 4/21/18 17:45pm]

Where was there a picture of Vanity?

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Reply #99 posted 04/22/18 12:21am

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kdavis said:



voph said:


malbena said:
Just hard for some people to accept Vanity was the one.

It is hard for them to accept that a picture of Vanity Denise Katrina Matthews was on one of Prince’s night stand tables in one of his bedrooms. Prince had more than one bedroom in Paisley Park. No one finds it odd that he had no picture of his EX-wives Mayte or Manuela but a picture of Vanity. And the fact that Prince wanted to give $15,000 each to Brenda, Susan and Apollonia but no mention of Mayte Garcia or Manuela Testolini. Hmmm [Edited 4/21/18 17:40pm] [Edited 4/21/18 17:41pm] [Edited 4/21/18 17:42pm] [Edited 4/21/18 17:45pm]


Where was there a picture of Vanity?






I'm wondering that too because if it was in the white bedroom it was staged as opposed to if it was in the green bedroom - his real one.
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Reply #100 posted 04/22/18 4:18am

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I'm wondering that too because if it was in the white bedroom it was staged as opposed to if it was in the green bedroom - his real one.[/quote]


One thing that struck me was the near absolute absence of anything that seemed ‘personal’ ANYWHERE in Paisley Park. A framed picture of his dad in a studio and the pictures of kids in the office.
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Reply #101 posted 04/22/18 4:55am

2004Fan

The picture of Vanity is in the white bedroom. Go to the very 1st post of this thread, bottom of the picture in the middle.

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Reply #102 posted 04/22/18 5:09am

CatB

PennyPurple said:

At this point, I hate to be a debbie downer, but in my opinion I think everybody associated with Prince are hell bent on promoting themselves at the expense of Prince.



Yeah that. It makes my heart bleed to see people walk his house like they own it. There was a reason why "he allowed nobody in there".




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Reply #103 posted 04/22/18 5:10am

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2004Fan said:

The picture of Vanity is in the white bedroom. Go to the very 1st post of this thread, bottom of the picture in the middle.

That's the one I thought u meant - as per previous posts, though, that is NOT "a picture of Vanity," but is the artwork for a Vanity 6 single, placed on that table by Paisley Park when they "dressed the set" for the Vogue shoot. As shown in other photos of this room, this art was not on the table when Prince was still there.

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Reply #104 posted 04/22/18 5:21am

2004Fan

kdavis said:

2004Fan said:

The picture of Vanity is in the white bedroom. Go to the very 1st post of this thread, bottom of the picture in the middle.

That's the one I thought u meant - as per previous posts, though, that is NOT "a picture of Vanity," but is the artwork for a Vanity 6 single, placed on that table by Paisley Park when they "dressed the set" for the Vogue shoot. As shown in other photos of this room, this art was not on the table when Prince was still there.

Yes you're right but I think that this is what the poster (Voph I think) was refering to. I could be wrong though. I haven't finished looking through all the pictures. I'm not sure I will. neutral

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Reply #105 posted 04/22/18 5:59am

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2004Fan said:

kdavis said:

That's the one I thought u meant - as per previous posts, though, that is NOT "a picture of Vanity," but is the artwork for a Vanity 6 single, placed on that table by Paisley Park when they "dressed the set" for the Vogue shoot. As shown in other photos of this room, this art was not on the table when Prince was still there.

Yes you're right but I think that this is what the poster (Voph I think) was refering to. I could be wrong though. I haven't finished looking through all the pictures. I'm not sure I will. neutral


I looked through the pictures of the walk-through by police in May of 2016 and there were no pictures of Vanity any where that I could find.

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Reply #106 posted 04/22/18 6:21am

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2004Fan said:



kdavis said:




2004Fan said:


The picture of Vanity is in the white bedroom. Go to the very 1st post of this thread, bottom of the picture in the middle.





That's the one I thought u meant - as per previous posts, though, that is NOT "a picture of Vanity," but is the artwork for a Vanity 6 single, placed on that table by Paisley Park when they "dressed the set" for the Vogue shoot. As shown in other photos of this room, this art was not on the table when Prince was still there.




Yes you're right but I think that this is what the poster (Voph I think) was refering to. I could be wrong though. I haven't finished looking through all the pictures. I'm not sure I will. neutral

Who said Paisley Park staged the room. I don’t think so. Why would they out of the blue put a picture of Vanity on the night table. This falls in line with what his sister Sharon Nelson said that Denise Matthews was the love of Prince’s life. I believe when Sharon Nelson and the others were allowed to go into Prince’s private places like his bedrooms in Paisley Park, they saw the evidence and in the memoir that Prince was writing he mentioned Vanity which I hope he did. I’m hoping Prince put his heart on the table and let it all out and reveals what everyone already knew that yes music was his first love but Denise was the only woman that owned his heart. It seemed like after Denise died, It was a wrap. His family and real friends should have stepped in and looked after him more after Denise died in February 2016 and Prince never ever should have been left alone.
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Reply #107 posted 04/22/18 6:26am

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voph said:

2004Fan said:

Yes you're right but I think that this is what the poster (Voph I think) was refering to. I could be wrong though. I haven't finished looking through all the pictures. I'm not sure I will. neutral

Who said Paisley Park staged the room. I don’t think so. Why would they out of the blue put a picture of Vanity on the night table. This falls in line with what his sister Sharon Nelson said that Denise Matthews was the love of Prince’s life. I believe when Sharon Nelson and the others were allowed to go into Prince’s private places like his bedrooms in Paisley Park, they saw the evidence and in the memoir that Prince was writing he mentioned Vanity which I hope he did. I’m hoping Prince put his heart on the table and let it all out and reveals what everyone already knew that yes music was his first love but Denise was the only woman that owned his heart. It seemed like after Denise died, It was a wrap. His family and real friends should have stepped in and looked after him more after Denise died in February 2016 and Prince never ever should have been left alone. [Edited 4/22/18 6:24am]


The white room wasn't even Prince's bedroom. He didn't sleep in there. He slept in the green room. And in the pictures taken in May 2016, there were no pictures of Vanity in that white room (nor in the green room). They were put there after May 2016.

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Reply #108 posted 04/22/18 6:46am

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benni said:

voph said:

2004Fan said: Who said Paisley Park staged the room. I don’t think so. Why would they out of the blue put a picture of Vanity on the night table. This falls in line with what his sister Sharon Nelson said that Denise Matthews was the love of Prince’s life. I believe when Sharon Nelson and the others were allowed to go into Prince’s private places like his bedrooms in Paisley Park, they saw the evidence and in the memoir that Prince was writing he mentioned Vanity which I hope he did. I’m hoping Prince put his heart on the table and let it all out and reveals what everyone already knew that yes music was his first love but Denise was the only woman that owned his heart. It seemed like after Denise died, It was a wrap. His family and real friends should have stepped in and looked after him more after Denise died in February 2016 and Prince never ever should have been left alone. [Edited 4/22/18 6:24am]


The white room wasn't even Prince's bedroom. He didn't sleep in there. He slept in the green room. And in the pictures taken in May 2016, there were no pictures of Vanity in that white room (nor in the green room). They were put there after May 2016.

I thought that they probably arranged some of it,like the albums lined up on the floor but to find out that they staged the rest of it is disappointing.I thought he at least used the white bedroom on occasion.After he passed,Stella Blu said on Twitter that he asked her to come to Paisley and paint a mural on his bedroom wall.She said that he loved it. I assume it was she who painted the words.She probably also painted the purple floral mural in the hallway and possibly the rainbows as well.

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Reply #109 posted 04/22/18 1:41pm

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Who said Paisley Park staged the room. I don’t think so. Why would they out of the blue put a picture of Vanity on the night table. This falls in line with what his sister Sharon Nelson said that Denise Matthews was the love of Prince’s life. I believe when Sharon Nelson and the others were allowed to go into Prince’s private places like his bedrooms in Paisley Park, they saw the evidence and in the memoir that Prince was writing he mentioned Vanity which I hope he did. I’m hoping Prince put his heart on the table and let it all out and reveals what everyone already knew that yes music was his first love but Denise was the only woman that owned his heart. It seemed like after Denise died, It was a wrap. His family and real friends should have stepped in and looked after him more after Denise died in February 2016 and Prince never ever should have been left alone. [Edited 4/22/18 6:24am]

It's not a matter of thinking whether PP staged the photos or not... We KNOW from the facts that it was staged. The most important of those facts is that there are plenty of investigation photos of this room from April and May 2016. The Vanity 6 photo was not there when Prince was alive.

Also, as others have stated, that wasn't his bedroom. Prince's bedroom was the little, plain green room.

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Reply #110 posted 04/22/18 6:25pm

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It's the MOST beautiful bedroom I EVER seen!!

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Reply #111 posted 04/22/18 6:45pm

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pinkcashmere23 said:

benni said:


The white room wasn't even Prince's bedroom. He didn't sleep in there. He slept in the green room. And in the pictures taken in May 2016, there were no pictures of Vanity in that white room (nor in the green room). They were put there after May 2016.

I thought that they probably arranged some of it,like the albums lined up on the floor but to find out that they staged the rest of it is disappointing.I thought he at least used the white bedroom on occasion.After he passed,Stella Blu said on Twitter that he asked her to come to Paisley and paint a mural on his bedroom wall.She said that he loved it. I assume it was she who painted the words.She probably also painted the purple floral mural in the hallway and possibly the rainbows as well.

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Actually, the albums lined up on the floor apparently were NOT part of the 'new' staging effort. I see some there in the April '16 photos.

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Reply #112 posted 04/22/18 6:52pm

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ChocolateBox3121 said:

It's the MOST beautiful bedroom I EVER seen!!

Did you see it in person? Maybe he just used that room for romance and not sleep biggrin

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Reply #113 posted 04/22/18 6:58pm

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jtfolden said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

I thought that they probably arranged some of it,like the albums lined up on the floor but to find out that they staged the rest of it is disappointing.I thought he at least used the white bedroom on occasion.After he passed,Stella Blu said on Twitter that he asked her to come to Paisley and paint a mural on his bedroom wall.She said that he loved it. I assume it was she who painted the words.She probably also painted the purple floral mural in the hallway and possibly the rainbows as well.

[Edited 4/22/18 14:00pm]

Actually, the albums lined up on the floor apparently were NOT part of the 'new' staging effort. I see some there in the April '16 photos.

I noticed that too when I looked through them earlier.Good to see they had left them as they were.

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Reply #114 posted 04/22/18 8:35pm

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Purplebflogirl said:

Look at the magazine on the table..
Vanity 6

He was remembering her after her passing
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Reply #115 posted 04/22/18 9:00pm

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AnnaSantana said:

Purplebflogirl said:
Look at the magazine on the table.. Vanity 6
He was remembering her after her passing

As has been stated, the picture of Vanity 6 was NOT in the room when Prince passed away. It was added recently for staging purposes by PP.

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Reply #116 posted 04/22/18 9:21pm

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ChocolateBox3121 said:

It's the MOST beautiful bedroom I EVER seen!!


You should look at more bedrooms.

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Reply #117 posted 04/23/18 12:19am

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To those who say this was not his "real" bedroom. Maybe he had more than one bedroom?

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Reply #118 posted 04/23/18 9:09am

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To those who say this was not his "real" bedroom. Maybe he had more than one bedroom?


Check out the thread in full. This room is a former office space. The thread has also noted that there were other bedrooms, including the green one where he actually slept. There was another bed space off from the sitting room attached to the green bedroom. There was at least one other bedroom, too.

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Reply #119 posted 04/23/18 11:21am

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paulludvig said:

To those who say this was not his "real" bedroom. Maybe he had more than one bedroom?



If you read through the data released by Carver County not only will you see it established by those around him that he slept in the green bed room every day BUT you can see photos of all the rooms taken on 4/21. The white room was sparsely decorated with no personal belongings and even less furniture than it has now. For example, the two little end tables in the staged photo that hold the vanity 6 picture NOW, were just stored in a closet on 4/21.

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