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Thread started 04/10/18 11:31am

feeluupp

The Last Million Plus Seller Prince Album...

Was going through the Media Traffic World Wide Chart archive for 2006, and was looking at the sales figures for 3121.

3121 topped the Global Charts for 5 weeks staying in the TOP 40.

It debuted at #1 in USA and eventually was certified GOLD by the RIAA for sales over 500,000.

World Wide it sold over 1.2 Million copies.

3121 was the last commercial Prince album and last Prince album to receive a cerfitication from the RIAA.

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Reply #1 posted 04/10/18 12:19pm

nelcp777

Interesting data, thanks a lot.

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Reply #2 posted 04/10/18 12:20pm

dance4me3121

it's a awesome album.It actually turned my friends on to Prince's new material at the time.It was nice to hear my friends talking about "Black Sweat" and "Fury" rather than Purple Rain and Lets Go Crazy for the millionth time

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Reply #3 posted 04/10/18 12:21pm

feeluupp

nelcp777 said:

Interesting data, thanks a lot.

Planet Earth stayed in the Global Chart Top 40 for 6 weeks and sold just a little over 500,000 world wide.

All the albums after that, Lotusflow3r, PlectrumElectrum, AOA, HitnRun Phase 1/Phase 2 never hit over 300,000.

[Edited 4/10/18 12:29pm]

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Reply #4 posted 04/10/18 12:39pm

jdcxc

Interesting.

Does anyone know the Billboard process for updating record sales? PR must be over 20 million in US by now.
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Reply #5 posted 04/10/18 12:46pm

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jdcxc said:

Interesting. Does anyone know the Billboard process for updating record sales? PR must be over 20 million in US by now.

Billboard doesn't do that, the RIAA does. And it has to be requested by the label or artist. For whatever reason, WB and/or NPG haven't requested an update in years.

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Reply #6 posted 04/10/18 12:49pm

feeluupp

renfield said:

jdcxc said:

Interesting. Does anyone know the Billboard process for updating record sales? PR must be over 20 million in US by now.

Billboard doesn't do that, the RIAA does. And it has to be requested by the label or artist. For whatever reason, WB and/or NPG haven't requested an update in years.

PR was last certified 13x Platinum in 1996 by the RIAA and the numbers at that time was 13.6 Million in the U.S. alone... Since then it has never been recertified, and I would estimate in the U.S. alone it is over 15 million by now.

The record company never asked for recertification for PR, even though last summer they gave 13x Platinum plaques to The Revolution for the release of PR DELUXE.

If the numbers were actually updated in the U.S. PURPLE RAIN would be in the TOP 10 SELLING ALBUMS in the USA.

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Reply #7 posted 04/10/18 12:52pm

feeluupp

jdcxc said:

Interesting. Does anyone know the Billboard process for updating record sales? PR must be over 20 million in US by now.

World Wide when it was on the top of the charts for the media traffic GLOBAL CHARTS it said it's total worldwide sales stand at 21 million.

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Reply #8 posted 04/10/18 12:57pm

PeteSilas

feeluupp said:

nelcp777 said:

Interesting data, thanks a lot.

Planet Earth stayed in the Global Chart Top 40 for 6 weeks and sold just a little over 500,000 world wide.

All the albums after that, Lotusflow3r, PlectrumElectrum, AOA, HitnRun Phase 1/Phase 2 never hit over 300,000.

[Edited 4/10/18 12:29pm]

AOA never hit more than that huh? interesting, that got rave reviews and it was after a hiatus from record making. the business is dead, i hope Prince didn't fret too much over shit like that.

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Reply #9 posted 04/10/18 12:57pm

feeluupp

When PR DELUXE was released, the Global Chart has PURPLE RAIN total sales as 21 Million World Wide

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week 9
Prince - Purple Rain
Warner Bros. - 94.000 / ~21.000.000

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Reply #10 posted 04/10/18 12:59pm

PeteSilas

also, 3121 was a good album, i remember playing it where I worked, at this college bistro, several students came up and asked "who is that?" they didn't do that for anyone else. It might not be a prince album WE love but i thought it was interesting how the kids reacted.

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Reply #11 posted 04/10/18 2:12pm

BlueShakooo

PeteSilas said:

also, 3121 was a good album, i remember playing it where I worked, at this college bistro, several students came up and asked "who is that?" they didn't do that for anyone else. It might not be a prince album WE love but i thought it was interesting how the kids reacted.



Cool!
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Reply #12 posted 04/12/18 10:29am

67Cadillac

I listened to 3121 yesterday and was knocked by how well it's held up. It's really a great album in my eyes, most of the songs are catchy, confident and memorable and Prince sounds fully rejuvenated. I love every song except "The Word" and "Beautiful, Loved and Blessed."

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Reply #13 posted 04/12/18 12:57pm

CAL3

PeteSilas said:

also, 3121 was a good album, i remember playing it where I worked, at this college bistro, several students came up and asked "who is that?" they didn't do that for anyone else. It might not be a prince album WE love but i thought it was interesting how the kids reacted.

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Terribly bland album. I'd go top five worst for Prince. I guess their reaction is interesting inasmuch that he went for a vaguely au courant sound.

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Glad it sold relatively well for him though. After the fake "hit" of 'Musicology' it was nice to see he could still put a record at the top of the charts.

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That was such a depressing period though, artistically. The back-to-back dross of 'Musicology' and '3121' really seemed to indicate he'd lost his touch.

I’ve been informed that my opinion is worth less than those expressed by others here.
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Reply #14 posted 04/12/18 12:58pm

dance4me3121

67Cadillac said:

I listened to 3121 yesterday and was knocked by how well it's held up. It's really a great album in my eyes, most of the songs are catchy, confident and memorable and Prince sounds fully rejuvenated. I love every song except "The Word" and "Beautiful, Loved and Blessed."

what don't you like about "The Word"?

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Reply #15 posted 04/12/18 1:16pm

PeteSilas

CAL3 said:

PeteSilas said:

also, 3121 was a good album, i remember playing it where I worked, at this college bistro, several students came up and asked "who is that?" they didn't do that for anyone else. It might not be a prince album WE love but i thought it was interesting how the kids reacted.

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Terribly bland album. I'd go top five worst for Prince. I guess their reaction is interesting inasmuch that he went for a vaguely au courant sound.

.

Glad it sold relatively well for him though. After the fake "hit" of 'Musicology' it was nice to see he could still put a record at the top of the charts.

.

That was such a depressing period though, artistically. The back-to-back dross of 'Musicology' and '3121' really seemed to indicate he'd lost his touch.

all in the eye of the beholder, each and everyone here seems to think this or that album was horrible/excellent. musicology, 3121 were great albums.

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Reply #16 posted 04/12/18 2:11pm

feeluupp

CAL3 said:

PeteSilas said:

also, 3121 was a good album, i remember playing it where I worked, at this college bistro, several students came up and asked "who is that?" they didn't do that for anyone else. It might not be a prince album WE love but i thought it was interesting how the kids reacted.

.

Terribly bland album. I'd go top five worst for Prince. I guess their reaction is interesting inasmuch that he went for a vaguely au courant sound.

.

Glad it sold relatively well for him though. After the fake "hit" of 'Musicology' it was nice to see he could still put a record at the top of the charts.

.

That was such a depressing period though, artistically. The back-to-back dross of 'Musicology' and '3121' really seemed to indicate he'd lost his touch.

Not as bland as PLANET EARTH lol

It's probably the only Prince album I bought and listened to and actually felt dissapointed on how boring the album was.

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Reply #17 posted 04/12/18 3:06pm

PeteSilas

feeluupp said:

CAL3 said:

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Terribly bland album. I'd go top five worst for Prince. I guess their reaction is interesting inasmuch that he went for a vaguely au courant sound.

.

Glad it sold relatively well for him though. After the fake "hit" of 'Musicology' it was nice to see he could still put a record at the top of the charts.

.

That was such a depressing period though, artistically. The back-to-back dross of 'Musicology' and '3121' really seemed to indicate he'd lost his touch.

Not as bland as PLANET EARTH lol

It's probably the only Prince album I bought and listened to and actually felt dissapointed on how boring the album was.

it wasn't that bad, some people here have said each and every album was his big return to form, i just listened to everything and didn't try to get carried away with the lynchmob here. I liked what i liked and was indifferent to what i was indifferent to and i still say i'd listen to a new prince or a springsteen album before i'd listen to anyone else's.

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Reply #18 posted 04/13/18 3:42am

jcurley

CAL3 said:

PeteSilas said:

also, 3121 was a good album, i remember playing it where I worked, at this college bistro, several students came up and asked "who is that?" they didn't do that for anyone else. It might not be a prince album WE love but i thought it was interesting how the kids reacted.

.

Terribly bland album. I'd go top five worst for Prince. I guess their reaction is interesting inasmuch that he went for a vaguely au courant sound.

.

Glad it sold relatively well for him though. After the fake "hit" of 'Musicology' it was nice to see he could still put a record at the top of the charts.

.

That was such a depressing period though, artistically. The back-to-back dross of 'Musicology' and '3121' really seemed to indicate he'd lost his touch.

Yeh-I thought that but when AOA and HitnRun came out it was like he had been completely refreshed. He seemed younger again. Always thought Musicology was good but very adult contemporary. It lacked the curiosity of Prince which always marked his brilliant albums

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Reply #19 posted 04/13/18 6:03am

Poplife88

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jcurley said:

CAL3 said:

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Terribly bland album. I'd go top five worst for Prince. I guess their reaction is interesting inasmuch that he went for a vaguely au courant sound.

.

Glad it sold relatively well for him though. After the fake "hit" of 'Musicology' it was nice to see he could still put a record at the top of the charts.

.

That was such a depressing period though, artistically. The back-to-back dross of 'Musicology' and '3121' really seemed to indicate he'd lost his touch.

Yeh-I thought that but when AOA and HitnRun came out it was like he had been completely refreshed. He seemed younger again. Always thought Musicology was good but very adult contemporary. It lacked the curiosity of Prince which always marked his brilliant albums

Totally agree I felt he was back to experimenting on AOA and the HitnRun albums. I liked Musicology and Planet Earth, but felt like he was coasting. The one that was totally disappointing to me was 20ten.

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Reply #20 posted 04/13/18 7:14am

StrangeButTrue

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dance4me3121 said:

67Cadillac said:

I listened to 3121 yesterday and was knocked by how well it's held up. It's really a great album in my eyes, most of the songs are catchy, confident and memorable and Prince sounds fully rejuvenated. I love every song except "The Word" and "Beautiful, Loved and Blessed."

what don't you like about "The Word"?

.

I always thought "The Word" was super corny. Its like no, I don't want to get saved. Love 3121 though, Get On The Boat was just as effective without the religious overtones.

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Reply #21 posted 04/13/18 8:37am

pinkcashmere23

Thanks for the info. I love several songs on the album.

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Reply #22 posted 04/13/18 10:04am

databank

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feeluupp said:

Was going through the Media Traffic World Wide Chart archive for 2006, and was looking at the sales figures for 3121.

3121 topped the Global Charts for 5 weeks staying in the TOP 40.

It debuted at #1 in USA and eventually was certified GOLD by the RIAA for sales over 500,000.

World Wide it sold over 1.2 Million copies.

3121 was the last commercial Prince album and last Prince album to receive a cerfitication from the RIAA.

In my heart, Prince sold 1 BILLION copies of each record. That's enough for me nod

Who cares about sales? People buy what they're told to buy. If a major was to release the recording of a vacuum cleaner, invest 5M in promotion and make sure the media says it's a masterpiece, it'd sell 30M copies nod

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Reply #23 posted 04/13/18 1:00pm

StrangeButTrue

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databank said:

In my heart, Prince sold 1 BILLION copies of each record. That's enough for me nod

Who cares about sales? People buy what they're told to buy. If a major was to release the recording of a vacuum cleaner, invest 5M in promotion and make sure the media says it's a masterpiece, it'd sell 30M copies nod

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Thats cold, don't talk about Cardi B. like that.

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Reply #24 posted 04/13/18 1:16pm

PeteSilas

we agree there fucker

databank said:

feeluupp said:

Was going through the Media Traffic World Wide Chart archive for 2006, and was looking at the sales figures for 3121.

3121 topped the Global Charts for 5 weeks staying in the TOP 40.

It debuted at #1 in USA and eventually was certified GOLD by the RIAA for sales over 500,000.

World Wide it sold over 1.2 Million copies.

3121 was the last commercial Prince album and last Prince album to receive a cerfitication from the RIAA.

In my heart, Prince sold 1 BILLION copies of each record. That's enough for me nod

Who cares about sales? People buy what they're told to buy. If a major was to release the recording of a vacuum cleaner, invest 5M in promotion and make sure the media says it's a masterpiece, it'd sell 30M copies nod

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Reply #25 posted 04/13/18 1:47pm

purplethunder3
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feeluupp said:

CAL3 said:

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Terribly bland album. I'd go top five worst for Prince. I guess their reaction is interesting inasmuch that he went for a vaguely au courant sound.

.

Glad it sold relatively well for him though. After the fake "hit" of 'Musicology' it was nice to see he could still put a record at the top of the charts.

.

That was such a depressing period though, artistically. The back-to-back dross of 'Musicology' and '3121' really seemed to indicate he'd lost his touch.

Not as bland as PLANET EARTH lol

It's probably the only Prince album I bought and listened to and actually felt dissapointed on how boring the album was.

hmph! I like Planet Earth. Corsette and all.

Image result for planet earth lp prince

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #26 posted 04/13/18 1:57pm

databank

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PeteSilas said:

we agree there fucker

databank said:

In my heart, Prince sold 1 BILLION copies of each record. That's enough for me nod

Who cares about sales? People buy what they're told to buy. If a major was to release the recording of a vacuum cleaner, invest 5M in promotion and make sure the media says it's a masterpiece, it'd sell 30M copies nod

We're human so we have to have some common grounds here and there.

Speaking of grounds, you're still grounded though nod No internet till Monday.

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Reply #27 posted 04/13/18 2:14pm

PeteSilas

databank said:

PeteSilas said:

we agree there fucker

We're human so we have to have some common grounds here and there.

Speaking of grounds, you're still grounded though nod No internet till Monday.

aren't you late for your hormone appointment?

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Reply #28 posted 04/13/18 3:28pm

databank

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PeteSilas said:

databank said:

We're human so we have to have some common grounds here and there.

Speaking of grounds, you're still grounded though nod No internet till Monday.

aren't you late for your hormone appointment?

Actually, I am nod See you on Monday cool

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Reply #29 posted 04/13/18 3:33pm

PeteSilas

databank said:

PeteSilas said:

aren't you late for your hormone appointment?

Actually, I am nod See you on Monday cool

tell them to lower the dose, you're chest hairs are falling off.

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