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Reply #60 posted 03/11/18 7:17pm

TrivialPursuit

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LittleProfessor said:

Trivial -

What's your take on the relationship between "The War" and Gil Scott Heron's "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised"? It's clear that Prince was referencing it, and made it obvious enough that you know he wanted you to know that's what he was doing. But I came to Prince long after that was released, and I haven't yet done a deep dive into what else was going on with him that might've made him do "The War" when he did.


I could go on and on about it. In short order, a few things are clear to me. Prince pulled great influence from Heron's piece more in ideology than a chant. Heron spoke about the in-your-face approach to the revolution with blacks in America, while Prince exposed the more subversive nature of it. Both talked about the false images you see on television (or computers) and how media's idea of a perfect North America is just that - false. Prince talked basically about how people buy into fake news for the sake of a false sense of security.

Preach a lie, not the truth
U give me candy, I keep the store
Gonna' eat it in the war

In the end, Prince was continuing Heron's message for a new generation and a new millennium.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #61 posted 03/12/18 6:54pm

Adorecream

TrivialPursuit said:

Adorecream said:

Sorry I tried, but I just can't get into it.


Responses like that drive me straight into the loving arms of my Michael Jackson forum board followers.

Got some kind of love for you, and I don't even know your name
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Reply #62 posted 03/12/18 7:05pm

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Return of the Bump Squad is the jam of all jams in all its glory hmph!.

For all time I am with you, you are with me.
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Reply #63 posted 03/12/18 8:20pm

TrivialPursuit

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Adorecream said:

Responses like that drive me straight into the loving arms of my Michael Jackson forum board followers.


You love a GIF like any of us, don't lie. lol

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #64 posted 03/13/18 12:05am

Adorecream

TrivialPursuit said:

Adorecream said:

Responses like that drive me straight into the loving arms of my Michael Jackson forum board followers.


You love a GIF like any of us, don't lie. lol

Totally, it was a joke. But I need me my Michael fix too.

Got some kind of love for you, and I don't even know your name
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Reply #65 posted 03/13/18 8:54am

TrivialPursuit

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Adorecream said:

TrivialPursuit said:


You love a GIF like any of us, don't lie. lol

Totally, it was a joke. But I need me my Michael fix too.


I do miss MJ. I don't miss the gossip stories about him.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #66 posted 03/13/18 10:09am

RJOrion

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Adorecream said:



Exodus - Has a few good songs like The Good Life and get wild, but a very uneven album, ruined by a lot of pointless skits, way below average rapping and grunting and not good enough to like - 3/10





There's hardly any rapping on Exodus though?




LOL...im not hearing all this "below average rapping and grunting either"
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Reply #67 posted 03/13/18 10:18am

Adorecream

RJOrion said:

herb4 said:

There's hardly any rapping on Exodus though?

LOL...im not hearing all this "below average rapping and grunting either"

"Get me some soup bitch" lol

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Reply #68 posted 03/13/18 11:27am

RJOrion

typed words cant express how much i love "Count The Days" ... Sonny & Prince sound so cool together on that joint...and the guitar work gives me goosebumps...
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Reply #69 posted 03/13/18 11:40am

OperatingTheta
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RJOrion said:[quote]

herb4 said:



Adorecream said:



Exodus - Has a few good songs like The Good Life and get wild, but a very uneven album, ruined by a lot of pointless skits, way below average rapping and grunting and not good enough to like - 3/10





There's hardly any rapping on Exodus though?



There's two brief raps from Prince on the entire album - on 'Get Wild' and 'Big Fun'. They probably constitute less than 2 minutes of album time. Whatever, Exodus is a stellar album and a great document of the 94-95 NPG in all their glory.

I still wonder what the advertised The Tora Tora Experience would've contained other than the remix of 'Loose'. I always guessed he recorded more material under that particular persona.



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[Edited 3/13/18 11:41am]
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Reply #70 posted 03/13/18 11:53am

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OperatingThetan said:[quote]

RJOrion said:

herb4 said:



Adorecream said:



Exodus - Has a few good songs like The Good Life and get wild, but a very uneven album, ruined by a lot of pointless skits, way below average rapping and grunting and not good enough to like - 3/10





There's hardly any rapping on Exodus though?



There's two brief raps from Prince on the entire album - on 'Get Wild' and 'Big Fun'. They probably constitute less than 2 minutes of album time. Whatever, Exodus is a stellar album and a great document of the 94-95 NPG in all their glory.

I still wonder what the advertised The Tora Tora Experience would've contained other than the remix of 'Loose'. I always guessed he recorded more material under that particular persona.



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Sonny also does a brief rap on The Good Life.

I remember the NPG sampler cassette had a snippet of Loose which began with the dialogue ‘now a word from our sponsors’ and then P screamed ‘get on the dance floor motherfuckers.’ Those were the days..
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Reply #71 posted 03/13/18 3:04pm

herb4

Yeah, The Good Life and the Versace bit on Get Wild were the only 2 raps on the album I could think of when I read that dude's post. And I like them both fine.

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Reply #72 posted 03/14/18 2:21am

Adorecream

Okay the shit live though is decent (Some live interview with Prince playing Get Wild). Plus I just like winding you up Trivial, because I am a bitch and it is just me expressing my natural gay bitchiness. I just have to get it out my system.

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I agree about your statement, I can't agree about people taking mess about Michael, now he is gone, like the story a couple of years ago, a white girl had a half black baby, because she had been messing around with a brotha, she blamed that shit on Michael Jackson, and said his ghost impregnated her while she was watching This it it. Even sadder was the husband believed that mess. I mean really.

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Reply #73 posted 03/14/18 2:47am

peer1973

I like all 3 of them, but they are so incomparable.

I really don't like Sonny's singing voice for most of the time, but as the songs are that good, it's still my favorite of the 3.

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Reply #74 posted 03/14/18 4:06pm

herb4

peer1973 said:

I like all 3 of them, but they are so incomparable.

I really don't like Sonny's singing voice for most of the time, but as the songs are that good, it's still my favorite of the 3.


You're right. They are incomparable.

I'd rate them:

Exodus (by a mile). One of my all time favorite Prince records.
NPS (underrated). Catches a ton of shit but not anywhere near his worst stuff.
Gold Nigga (forgettable). I couldn't name 2 or 3 songs off of it.

I have GN laying around here somewhere and can't recall listening to it more than 2 or 3 times.

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