The estate clearly didn't see a chance to get involved. - A missed opportunity to release a one-off release, a new unreleased song by Prince. I'm sure there still are many useful unheard tracks on the infected shelves, fitting the theme of the film. - It could've/would've been an opportunity/possibility to keep Prince in a positive way more on top in the media. - Oh well... 'The Incapable Ones'...
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in the tradition of KCOOLMUZIQ #KCOOLMUZIQ there is a difference between 'black culture' vs 'African culture(s) . What? It is laughable that Egypt(ians) are African? .
Not once did I proceed to attempt to 'read' you as a person. Life wisdom has taught that that is hard, especially when doing it via cyberspace(darned impossible) but from your first interaction with me, it is you trying to judge put down and personally dissect me. I'm too 2gether to be affected. And I never did that to you. :hmm2:strawman arguement see post #82 | |
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have they even ironed all that stuff with the music out. They've been missing a lot of opportunities | |
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I agree. Would of helped introduce younger generations to P. Until the end of time | |
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Both Galaxy movies introduced fans to legacy act music. Cheap Trick couldn't believe the bounce it gave them. Prince would have been perfect for BP. I wish it could have happened. | |
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I won't say that you're dumb, but you are extremely ignorant. Your assertion that blacks are "appropriating" african culture, based on the argument of one person is supremely ignorant. But, it validates your opinion, so no surprise that you would use it. Again, given your propensity to "research" something and cut and paste without trying to understand the context, I don't expect you to understand why I think this is a fantastically obtuse argument to make. As to your "research" around Prince's fascination with Egypt or whatever....again, your assertion is that his interest in Africa was limited to this. This shows that your thinking is limited to what you read, and you are simply unable to think about the context of said research, and stick to what validates your narrow view of things.
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. . Wasn't this thread about a Disney movie based on a comic book? if it was just a dream, call me a dreamer 2 | |
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yes but some have tried to turn it into what is being Black vs African. My post was quite simple and sincere, but I forgot how petty Prince.org can be due to a few individuals here. | |
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Stop, and your constant emotional attacks... seriously? . I did not assert that blacks are appropriating african culture. I assumed wrong, that you have followed the debate. I guess it is you that was ignorant of it. I posted her name(bolded), just copy n past it, her name is Zipporah Gene(African) the debate is out there, she and others(African) believe Black Americans are appropriating African culture. . The idea that Black = African has various views. As the co-director(Black American) of the Black Panther movie said, he kinda understood what it meant to be Black, but not African. It is a little bit about the movie, so no one turned the thread into anything. What is Black vs what is African is a part of the discussion. I posted it for you to read. Black Americans don't/won't identify as African-American...come on. Why is this a reason for contentions and personal attacks. . Not my assertion. Via interviews and songs, his focus of interest was Egypt. I did not say he was limited to that. You are reading a lot into it. If you can present that he focused on other places, go right ahead. . . Ah so you need the Black Panther movie to validate your view of things? It is a fictional comic book super hero based on a fictional land based in Africa, just like the island Wonder Woman comes from is based on a fictional island(and Greek culture) .
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. I would love to see Marz in a Galaxy movie or one of his sillier tunes like Delirious. if it was just a dream, call me a dreamer 2 | |
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Don't hate your neighbors. Hate the media that tells you to hate your neighbors. | |
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* I am not trying to "break down your intents," I'm just discussing what you said. Thus, it's dismissive when you state "rather than wishing for Prince to do 'x' I think it would be more logical or better idea for Prince to do 'y.'" Now, of course, we can disagree on what defines dismissive comments and behavior and whether or not someone's words or actions can be dismissive even if they don't intend to be. And, yes, not just you, but anyone who stated something to the effect "rather than wishing for Prince to do 'x' I think it would be more logical or better for Prince to do 'y'" is being dismissive, especially if that person has rarely gone onto other threads and questioned someone else's "wish list" or desires to see something from Prince or the Estate. I guess I'm one of the few people on this site who doesn't make it a habit of going onto other people's threads and telling them that their wish lists and hopes are lame, illogical, or less reputable than mine. * I also understand what you mean when you state that you "don't even like to play Prince music in conjunction with non-Prince relate artist, proteges, etc," but, if that's the case, what was the point of posting on a thread that seemingly has no interest to you? For instance, I have never played my iTunes, iPod, or iPhone on shuffle or random. That is not the way I like to enjoy music. As such, I also rarely listen to the radio. In fact, other than the Saturday Morning Blues Workshop and the local JSU Jazz Station, I have not listened to the radio since 1988. So, when I listen to music it's often from the standpoint or desire to hear a story or a similar musical or lyrical narrative. Prince's body of work has caused me to listen to music in that way. Each of his albums, for me, is a cohesive and self-contained narrative with a beginning, middle, and an end. Yet, that does not mean that I don't have other playlists of folks--not associated artists or proteges--that I haven't combined because they remind me of Prince's work in some way. And, I fully understand that others might see that list and think, "how the hell does that artist relate to Prince?" Yet, because I understand the subjective nature of art, I'm not as surprised or miffed or put off when someone relates or connects a particular artist to Prince that I see no particular connection. Lord knows there have been countless times on this site when someone has started a thread with the notion of "I wish Prince would work with 'x,'" and I have thought "God, I hope that never happens," but I never was prompted to post on that thread why that person's wish list or hope for something Prince related was lame, illogical, or less honorable than what I wish or hope for Prince. | |
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Technically it is breaking down my intent...I've never felt or said the OPs post was 'lame, illogical or less honorable...' And my intent was not being dismissive. Others have said they don't see it as well. Topics I have no interest in I don't post in. And I've never attacked the OP or anyone in this thread. But the OP is saying some pretty offensive stuff and that is ok? I'm done with it man. There was no point to all that other personal attacking stuff. So many others disagreed, but I got attacked. I don't like when people fixiate on me. So the OP can explore the topic. . All I originally asked was why this movie? You replied to my post, and I doubt you took it like I was being dismissive originaly. You actually answered in a way that I was looking for, some kind of connection. Other than just a song. . I'm pretty open about what I like with Prince/culture etc so an understanding of what/how/why with Prince and him doing something like a soundtrack/song etc is what interests me. It is culture for me and community. What you said in the bold is what moves me too. I didn't say it wasn't interesting. I'm a huge fan of the movie/character which is why I posted. . And I've never said the OPs thread was lame, illogical or less honorable. I have the soundtrack to Black Panther. I'm done, let the OP go back to talking to others. He's been gone from this world for 2yrs coming onto the 3rd in about 2 months time. (maybe it is the wishing Prince was alive part/Death) I just had a 2hr back in forth on the phone with a fan/friend who is still believing Prince faked his death, and we started talking back in 2016 with the same thing. And still here. . to the OP, I would actually loose my mind (if Prince was still alive) and he took over the score like he did with Batman... now that I would love. And that would be Prince to me.
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there isn't one iota of emotion in my post. I'm simply calling it as I see it, and it's crystal clear. Again, you post your "research" to refute various things that you don't agree with, pepper it with more "research", and then complain that you're being attacked. And your, lol, assertion that I don't know much about Prince? I will bet that I understand Prince much, much more than you. I don't have an compilation of where he recorded what song or what he was wearing on any specific day, nor do I care to. I have listened to Prince literalluy since his first album. But I don't feel the need to regurgitate my opinions on what he thought based on his fascination with Egypt, or being a JH, whatever. He was more complicated than what you read about or "research". Your posts are simply diatribes of your "research" that you think "proves" this or that. So, I reiterate, you post things as if your "research" trumps everyone elses thoughts and opinions. I have seen it in thread after thread. Which means you're the perfect moderator for such a place. | |
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sorry but I don't even know who you are. I've never encountered you on the org. you can enjoy your topic and talk with others about it. If you don't have it buy the soundtrack. It's great.
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Yes! I said that exact same thing. I love the sound that to the soundtrack. But Prince would had made it majestic. | |
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* I hear you on this post. As such, there is a possibility that I connected or conflated somethings that you wrote with some things that other folks wrote and then perceived your words or tone as dismissive. As you have reiterated, you merely asked, "Why this movie?," which is not dismissive since it is merely asking one to explain why one thinks that Black Panther would be a good fit for a Prince song, even if I can clearly see why the film would have been a perfect fit for a Prince song. However, after I answered your question, I perceived your response of "if I could wish Prince back to life, it wouldn't be to submit a song for a film" as dismissing or making light of the OP's original desire. Yet, since you state that it was not your intent to be dismissive of the OP's original desire, then I can only take you at your word since you don't have a history of trolling or disrespecting others on this site. To be clear, you and I often disagree when it comes to issues of Prince and race, but, again, I can't say that you have a history of demeaning people on this site. | |
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Hey. I'm from the Czech Republic. Anyone wanna hear my story. No? Didn't think so. | |
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42Kristen said: Yes! I said that exact same thing. I love the sound that to the soundtrack. But Prince would had made it majestic. | |
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are you the newly crowned king who lives in an advanced word built on a meteorite that lives behind a magic shield? "Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!" | |
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I am. I also wear a mask. Got a sword too. People look up to me. | |
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Andy Allo posted the following on Instagram: "Had to break out the traditional Cameroon garb for #blackpanther premiere night. Thank you @cejuma for allowing me to be a part of your big night. So proud of you. āš½š š½āāļøšš½ā¢ ā¢ ā¢ #wakanda #superhero #movie #incredible #everyone #goseeit #cameroon #bamendagirl #goddess #africa #brightcolors #prints #vibrantculture" Check out the photo here: https://www.instagram.com...Sl5H7H10_/ | |
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pricetag said: blizzybiz said: I listen to Prince spradically now as hearing certain songs only serve to remind me that, well, the mind that conceived can no longer provide the energy that Prince gave is. But after seeing Black Panther, and leaving feeling completely empowered after seeing blackness portrayed in such a positive light, I left the theater saddened that Prince was not here to contribute to a film that I'm sure he would have found worthy to do so. Iām not so sure Prince would have contributed...somebody telling he needed to be involved would have been enough to part company. ā-Disagree I think he would have loved this film. Many people said he knew a lot about Africa civilization. | |
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1Sasha said: Both Galaxy movies introduced fans to legacy act music. Cheap Trick couldn't believe the bounce it gave them. Prince would have been perfect for BP. I wish it could have happened. | |
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laurarichardson said: pricetag said: Iām not so sure Prince would have contributed...somebody telling he needed to be involved would have been enough to part company. ā-Disagree I think he would have loved this film. Many people said he knew a lot about Africa civilization. | |
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42Kristen said: Yes! I said that exact same thing. I love the sound that to the soundtrack. But Prince would had made it majestic. | |
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Heard it. Few good trax on the soundtrack. Has some filer on it too like 'All The Stars' and the Starboy-ish 'Pray For Me'. Sounds like a regular rap album to me. Film is better though. Lamar and Staples in 'Opps' is a great track ! "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972) | |
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Thanks for sharing. It would have been wonderful for Prince to have been on the album. | |
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The movie is still number 1 at the box office. Prince tracks on the album would have been awesome. | |
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