Had you been Prince at his age and what u think u know of his sister and half siblings (of course you could name beneficiaries to whom ever you choos or all to charity).

Would you have had a Will or No Will???

My vote would have had a will.

Will: 1 or No Will:

I can't answer that. I tried, but I can't. Because I can't wrap my head around the concept of not caring how my vault material was released, and that's what appears to have been a main driver in Prince's thinking.

yeah that too

Will! If anyone believes the lies that Tyka Nelson had told almost 2 years ago; that Prince did not have a Will! Must be sipping Tyka's koolaid!

RodeoSchro said:

laurarichardson said:

RodeoSchro said:

I can't answer that. I tried, but I can't. Because I can't wrap my head around the concept of not caring how my vault material was released, and that's what appears to have been a main driver in Prince's thinking.

The vault is going to be fine. Do you realize some of those sibs would have sold everything by now? He did have contracts with WB and Tidal. He put his songs in the LLC. He was trying to do something.

Yeah, but that's not my point. Prince didn't do anything to prepare for the release of unreleased material. I can't wrap my head around that. I can't put myself in a position where I'd do that. Since I can't get to where he was mentally, I can't answer the question to anyone's satisfaction - especially mine.

RodeoSchro said:

laurarichardson said:

RodeoSchro said: The vault is going to be fine. Do you realize some of those sibs would have sold everything by now? He did have contracts with WB and Tidal. He put his songs in the LLC. He was trying to do something.

Yeah, but that's not my point. Prince didn't do anything to prepare for the release of unreleased material. I can't wrap my head around that. I can't put myself in a position where I'd do that. Since I can't get to where he was mentally, I can't answer the question to anyone's satisfaction - especially mine.

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That's how I feel too. The thing with the Vault really has me stumped. I mean, they had to pry open the Vault, so obviously there was no Will or instructions on what to do. It does not make any sense that Prince would not have a plan in place for his unreleased music -- his "babies". He did say (to George Lopez, I believe) that his Vault would be released by "someone", "someday", but I have no idea who or what he meant.

RodeoSchro said:

laurarichardson said:

RodeoSchro said: The vault is going to be fine. Do you realize some of those sibs would have sold everything by now? He did have contracts with WB and Tidal. He put his songs in the LLC. He was trying to do something.

Yeah, but that's not my point. Prince didn't do anything to prepare for the release of unreleased material. I can't wrap my head around that. I can't put myself in a position where I'd do that. Since I can't get to where he was mentally, I can't answer the question to anyone's satisfaction - especially mine.

Maybe

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No will if I were able to accomplish what I wanted to accomplish in better ways that couldn't be manipulated by anyone for a long time to come. Won't know of course until it all plays out, but so far I don't think he made the wrong decision about this.

RodeoSchro said:

I can't answer that. I tried, but I can't. Because I can't wrap my head around the concept of not caring how my vault material was released, and that's what appears to have been a main driver in Prince's thinking.

The Vault was of secondary importance to Prince.

In order to deal with it would have required him to have to stop what he was doing and go back

That was not him..

He was either in the moment or far in the future.

As Laura said, he had plans and was putting them in place

The Vault didnt figure in those plans because to him it was like "the Attic"

Lots of lovely stuff representing the past

but

More interest to your FAMily than it is to you

i would say if prince knew he was going to die as tyka has stated it would seem as if he would of had his house in order. prince doesnt seem like the kind of guy to just leave his music that he fought so hard for with no will yet he left all these instructions for paisley park to be a musem i dont know somethings just dont add up to me

This is a discussion that has been going on since his passing.

All the people that worked on the will would have come forward by now to inform the Probate Judge that they prepared a will...the attorney, paralegal, assistant, secretary...someone who was involved in the preparation....

There is no will.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

This is a discussion that has been going on since his passing.

All the people that worked on the will would have come forward by now to inform the Probate Judge that they prepared a will...the attorney, paralegal, assistant, secretary...someone who was involved in the preparation....

There is no will.

The estate is going thru 70 boxes of legal docs from Patrick Cousins.

Prince made provisions with contracts that have thus far not be broken despite the efforts of a few people. WB has the license to the soundtracks forvever so he got his way.

He also assigned royalties to "Yes We Can Code"

1) The Copyright CLAIMANT fo...n HIT nRUN is NPG MUSIC PUBLISHING LLC

transferred by written agreement to . Address: 1611 TELEGRAPH AVENUE, SUITE 600, OAKLAND, CA, 94612..which isThe Dream Corps..

laurarichardson said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

This is a discussion that has been going on since his passing.

All the people that worked on the will would have come forward by now to inform the Probate Judge that they prepared a will...the attorney, paralegal, assistant, secretary...someone who was involved in the preparation....

There is no will.

The estate is going thru 70 boxes of legal docs from Patrick Cousins.

Prince made provisions with contracts that have thus far not be broken despite the efforts of a few people. WB has the license to the soundtracks forvever so he got his way.

He also assigned royalties to "Yes We Can Code"

1) The Copyright CLAIMANT fo...n HIT nRUN is NPG MUSIC PUBLISHING LLC

transferred by written agreement to . Address: 1611 TELEGRAPH AVENUE, SUITE 600, OAKLAND, CA, 94612..which isThe Dream Corps..

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That Patrick Cousins needs to stop with his damn bullshit!! He's like that annoying fly who spoils a picnic!

^^ Well, hey -- that kind a rhymes, LOL

pricetag said:

in MN there have to be 2 witnesses to a will's signing. So who would those 2 be that would have known and said nothing? Maybe a sibling or someone that would benefit from it NOT being made public and a lawyer willing to go along with that?


But to me, it is not even about the lack of a will, but a lack of a trust. When he first started out, what may have been the BEST singular bit of advice (that he took) he set up a publishing company. So why no trust and why no will?

Maybe he never respected the legacy or maybe he figured it was his work and if they wanted it they would have to work it all out.

But it is a shame. I am sure that soon we will see it exploited in ways that will make (Me at least) us sick.

But that was something the Prince had to have known...

Lovejunky said:

RodeoSchro said:

I can't answer that. I tried, but I can't. Because I can't wrap my head around the concept of not caring how my vault material was released, and that's what appears to have been a main driver in Prince's thinking.

The Vault was of secondary importance to Prince.

In order to deal with it would have required him to have to stop what he was doing and go back

That was not him..

He was either in the moment or far in the future.

As Laura said, he had plans and was putting them in place

The Vault didnt figure in those plans because to him it was like "the Attic"

Lots of lovely stuff representing the past

but

More interest to your FAMily than it is to you

there are several companies that would have jumped at a chance to properly archive the vault. But remember he said there were several vaults. so who knows what will show up.

OnlyNDaUsa said:

Lovejunky said:

The Vault was of secondary importance to Prince.

In order to deal with it would have required him to have to stop what he was doing and go back

That was not him..

He was either in the moment or far in the future.

As Laura said, he had plans and was putting them in place

The Vault didnt figure in those plans because to him it was like "the Attic"

Lots of lovely stuff representing the past

but

More interest to your FAMily than it is to you

there are several companies that would have jumped at a chance to properly archive the vault. But remember he said there were several vaults. so who knows what will show up.

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I don't think that Prince had the time, nor the interest to archive his Vault. Maybe that is something that he thought his children would do in the future, but sadly that did not happen. Like Lovejunky said, Prince was far too focused on the present and the future. There are several Vaults and where do you even begin!! ??

RodeoSchro said:

As a never married, single person without child. I can somewhat relate to Prince's dilemma. He knew there would be enough money for everyone. By not having a will he never had to decide who was more deserving of his assests. It's easier to make a will with wife, children or living parents. But deciding which sibling, cousin, friend, nephew or niece should get what is hard. Especially when most don't deserve a dime.

000000 said:

As a never married, single person without child. I can somewhat relate to Prince's dilemma. He knew there would be enough money for everyone. By not having a will he never had to decide who was more deserving of his assests. It's easier to make a will with wife, children or living parents. But deciding which sibling, cousin, friend, nephew or niece should get what is hard. Especially when most don't deserve a dime.

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Well said.

000000 said:

As a never married, single person without child. I can somewhat relate to Prince's dilemma. He knew there would be enough money for everyone. By not having a will he never had to decide who was more deserving of his assests. It's easier to make a will with wife, children or living parents. But deciding which sibling, cousin, friend, nephew or niece should get what is hard. Especially when most don't deserve a dime.

Exactly and as vast as his estate is it would not have taken a day to get it all sorted and keep in mine over the years his income rose and fell a will would have needed to be changed numerous times.

According to the ex-wives he did have one when he was married to them so it appears when the marriages ended he stopped being concerned.

000000 said:

As a never married, single person without child. I can somewhat relate to Prince's dilemma. He knew there would be enough money for everyone. By not having a will he never had to decide who was more deserving of his assests. It's easier to make a will with wife, children or living parents. But deciding which sibling, cousin, friend, nephew or niece should get what is hard. Especially when most don't deserve a dime.

If I were never married and without any children, I'd probably leave at least half to fund an animal refuge of some type, and the other half would go to another type of charity where it will be used to help others in need.

Unless there were special circumstances needing consideration, then the heck with extended family members, they can work for their own I don't have a legacy to extend....

laurarichardson said:

RodeoSchro said:

Yeah, but that's not my point. Prince didn't do anything to prepare for the release of unreleased material. I can't wrap my head around that. I can't put myself in a position where I'd do that. Since I can't get to where he was mentally, I can't answer the question to anyone's satisfaction - especially mine.

He said one day someone was going to be it out but it was not going to be him. K

Quite the prophet.

bonatoc said:

laurarichardson said:

RodeoSchro said: He said one day someone was going to be it out but it was not going to be him. K

Quite the prophet.

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It would have probably been his children.

Astasheiks said:

Had you been Prince at his age and what u think u know of his sister and half siblings (of course you could name beneficiaries to whom ever you choos or all to charity).

Would you have had a Will or No Will???

My vote would have had a will.

Will: 1 or No Will:

3: No one cares about you, but I Will.

Who cares?

He was right about one thing, it doesn't matter.
The Vault belongs to those who dig it.

It's not for everyone.
Still, it's a gift.

Imagine the opposite. Prince making a mega-deal over a century, he would have looked like a greedy man from beyond the grave.
I think near the end he understood what the real bootleggers were about. Despite all that he said. Hey, he ditched Parade, that dumbass!
The fact that unrealesed songs were performed live for fans is proof of a conversation.
Sure no one has the right to steal.

Sometimes I think if some bootleggers had approached him with a fair deal,
he got close to take it because he believed in releasing and getting a feedback.
Just then he realized his music was not his, per contract.

Things would have been different if Warner thought it was worth it.
But then it would have been Star Wars, with the Evil Empire of the Majors vs. The Rebels, led by Young Luke Skypurple.
I can totally picture Waronker speaking with his pair at Sony, and the other guy going "You're not going to do that! Next thing we know they'll all ask for 50 percent!"

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cloveringold85 said:

bonatoc said:

Quite the prophet.

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It would have probably been his children.

Ow c'm'on. You get me all sad.
Of course I was just getting in Laura's hair, not Prince's.

Her CURSED WITCH HAIR!

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