laurarichardson said:

Adorecream said:

It is also mentioned in the 1998 Liz Jones book, that it happened in November, Prince had drunk a bottle of wine and had his stomach pumped for pills. They said he was dangerously emaciated and his tiny body could not take the abuse.

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I think from this time onwards Prince was drinking more and doing more drugs, but also being clean for long periods. Probably stressful events like the death of his son that caused these episodes and it was obvious after the death, his love for Mayte started to really cool and eventually by 1999 fizzle out.

He was probaly depressed over his carreer and the lost of his son. He never appeared at concerts or public events drunk or high. If he was drinking so what he was going thur a lot and had been drinking too much prior ( there is a interview that he did where he actually said he drinking too much, had too many women and that he had to make changes) it does not mean he was a drunk or drug addict.

He also looked really better in 96 on then in did in the mid -90s.

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Yes. Think about everything that Prince was dealing with. Loss of a child; 2-divorces; breaking free from WB; loss of both his parents......and still managed to hold it all together and go on tour, etc.

laurarichardson said:

rap said:

Isn't that illegal?!

Why would it be illegal to have your own medical records?

Anyone can access their medical records but it is a legal document that belongs to the provider of care/treatment, you can't just walk out with it, that would be theft.

Here in the UK you have to request them in writing and as rap has said you are given a copy which you have to pay for. There are departments in hospitals who deal specifically with requests.

I'd imagine there's a similar process in the US.

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The way I read it is, he just ordered one of his minions to grab them on the way out.

InThisBedIDream said:

laurarichardson said:

rap said: Why would it be illegal to have your own medical records?

Anyone can access their medical records but it is a legal document that belongs to the provider of care/treatment, you can't just walk out with it, that would be theft.

Here in the UK you have to request them in writing and as rap has said you are given a copy which you have to pay for. There are departments in hospitals who deal specifically with requests.

I'd imagine there's a similar process in the US.

[Edited 1/26/18 14:52pm]

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Yes, it works the same way in the U.S.

coldasice said:

TrevorAyer said:

Here is a clue ... pill addicts take 60 pills in a day ... often athletes or people like prince with injuries ... alcohalics drink 4 bottles of wine or 30 bears or a couple bottles of vodka in a day ... they all mix their booze with pills ... and it doesn’t often result in an emergency room visit .. but sometimes it does ... addicts are very good at keeping secrets and often surround them selves with young naive people who are easy to lie to ... when they od and can’t hide it they make up some excuse like flu or migranes or anything really ..

You're a brave one for bringing so much sense to the org.

Why are we still having this discussion?

muleFunk said:

Strawberrylova123 said:

muleFunk said:

Why are we still having this discussion?

You don't have to get involved in this discussion

I don't have to do nothing but die and pay taxes but I am here.

There are 1000 threads about this and we really are doing nothing but trying to fuel an agenda.

muleFunk said:

muleFunk said:

Strawberrylova123 said:

muleFunk said: You don't have to get involved in this discussion

I don't have to do nothing but die and pay taxes but I am here.

There are 1000 threads about this and we really are doing nothing but trying to fuel an agenda.

Well we all know what the agenda is and I am saying this incident was a big nothing burger that a cetain someone dragged up to suit their purpose. We will never know what really happend since the whole story started with nannies.

laurarichardson said:

Adorecream said:

It is also mentioned in the 1998 Liz Jones book, that it happened in November, Prince had drunk a bottle of wine and had his stomach pumped for pills. They said he was dangerously emaciated and his tiny body could not take the abuse.

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I think from this time onwards Prince was drinking more and doing more drugs, but also being clean for long periods. Probably stressful events like the death of his son that caused these episodes and it was obvious after the death, his love for Mayte started to really cool and eventually by 1999 fizzle out.

He was probaly depressed over his carreer and the lost of his son. He never appeared at concerts or public events drunk or high. If he was drinking so what he was going thur a lot and had been drinking too much prior ( there is a interview that he did where he actually said he drinking too much, had too many women and that he had to make changes) it does not mean he was a drunk or drug addict.

He also looked really better in 96 on then in did in the mid -90s.

My understanding is that this incident involving the wine, aspirin, and stomach pumping occurred on April 21, 1996. His son was born and died in October 1996.

InThisBedIDream said:

Anyone can access their medical records but it is a legal document that belongs to the provider of care/treatment, you can't just walk out with it, that would be theft.

Here in the UK you have to request them in writing and as rap has said you are given a copy which you have to pay for. There are departments in hospitals who deal specifically with requests.

I'd imagine there's a similar process in the US.

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Um...Here in the US, in nursing school in 1980, we learned that "the medical chart is the property of the patient"...I have taught this to patients, new nurses and doctors throughout my career ever since...

From a legal standpoint, what that means is that the actual physical paper and folder and metal binder belongs to the hospital and/or doctor's office, but the information recorded belongs to the patient...

Technically, since the actual physical chart paper, binder etc belongs to the facility to physically remove that might be considered theft, but the medical information is the property of the patient...although there is also an argument that the doctor's notations/nurse's notations belong to them, but the patient holds greater weighti the argument...thus HIPAA favors the patient not the healthcare providers...

A bit nitpicky/confusing, but accurate...

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LBrent said:

InThisBedIDream said:

Anyone can access their medical records but it is a legal document that belongs to the provider of care/treatment, you can't just walk out with it, that would be theft.

Here in the UK you have to request them in writing and as rap has said you are given a copy which you have to pay for. There are departments in hospitals who deal specifically with requests.

I'd imagine there's a similar process in the US.

[Edited 1/26/18 14:52pm]

Um...Here in the US, in nursing school in 1980, we learned that "the medical chart is the property of the patient"...I have taught this to patients, new nurses and doctors throughout my career ever since...

From a legal standpoint, what that means is that the actual physical paper and folder and metal binder belongs to the hospital and/or doctor's office, but the information recorded belongs to the patient...

Technically, since the actual physical chart paper, binder etc belongs to the facility to physically remove that might be considered theft, but the medical information is the property of the patient...although there is also an argument that the doctor's notations/nurse's notations belong to them, but the patient holds greater weighti the argument...thus HIPAA favors the patient not the healthcare providers...

A bit nitpicky/confusing, but accurate...

[Edited 1/29/18 6:03am]

Thank you. I certainly remember taking my file to another doctor . The even let me have the their binder

206Michelle said:

laurarichardson said:

He was probaly depressed over his carreer and the lost of his son. He never appeared at concerts or public events drunk or high. If he was drinking so what he was going thur a lot and had been drinking too much prior ( there is a interview that he did where he actually said he drinking too much, had too many women and that he had to make changes) it does not mean he was a drunk or drug addict.

He also looked really better in 96 on then in did in the mid -90s.

My understanding is that this incident involving the wine, aspirin, and stomach pumping occurred on April 21, 1996. His son was born and died in October 1996.

Having a child is stressful and he was having carreer problems at the time. Prince even addressed drinking and partying to much in interviews he gave back then.

LBrent said:

Um...Here in the US, in nursing school in 1980, we learned that "the medical chart is the property of the patient"...I have taught this to patients, new nurses and doctors throughout my career ever since...

From a legal standpoint, what that means is that the actual physical paper and folder and metal binder belongs to the hospital and/or doctor's office, but the information recorded belongs to the patient...

Technically, since the actual physical chart paper, binder etc belongs to the facility to physically remove that might be considered theft, but the medical information is the property of the patient...although there is also an argument that the doctor's notations/nurse's notations belong to them, but the patient holds greater weighti the argument...thus HIPAA favors the patient not the healthcare providers...

A bit nitpicky/confusing, but accurate...

[Edited 1/29/18 6:03am]

laurarichardson said:

Thank you. I certainly remember taking my file to another doctor . The even let me have the their binder

You're most kindly welcome...

I've actually written in my chart, the staff hated that and I don't normally recommend that, but...at the time I felt it was necessary and being a nurse, welllllll...

LBrent said:

InThisBedIDream said:

Anyone can access their medical records but it is a legal document that belongs to the provider of care/treatment, you can't just walk out with it, that would be theft.

Here in the UK you have to request them in writing and as rap has said you are given a copy which you have to pay for. There are departments in hospitals who deal specifically with requests.

I'd imagine there's a similar process in the US.

[Edited 1/26/18 14:52pm]

Um...Here in the US, in nursing school in 1980, we learned that "the medical chart is the property of the patient"...I have taught this to patients, new nurses and doctors throughout my career ever since...

From a legal standpoint, what that means is that the actual physical paper and folder and metal binder belongs to the hospital and/or doctor's office, but the information recorded belongs to the patient...

Technically, since the actual physical chart paper, binder etc belongs to the facility to physically remove that might be considered theft, but the medical information is the property of the patient...although there is also an argument that the doctor's notations/nurse's notations belong to them, but the patient holds greater weighti the argument...thus HIPAA favors the patient not the healthcare providers...

A bit nitpicky/confusing, but accurate...

[Edited 1/29/18 6:03am]

Not nitpicky at all, you explained the system in the US.

Even if I did think it was nitpicky you did it in a nice way, it's all good,

I recently moved to another State and had to request my medical records from my previous doctor's. It's not uncommon.

LBrent said:

Um...Here in the US, in nursing school in 1980, we learned that "the medical chart is the property of the patient"...I have taught this to patients, new nurses and doctors throughout my career ever since...

From a legal standpoint, what that means is that the actual physical paper and folder and metal binder belongs to the hospital and/or doctor's office, but the information recorded belongs to the patient...

Technically, since the actual physical chart paper, binder etc belongs to the facility to physically remove that might be considered theft, but the medical information is the property of the patient...although there is also an argument that the doctor's notations/nurse's notations belong to them, but the patient holds greater weight in the argument...thus HIPAA favors the patient not the healthcare providers...

A bit nitpicky/confusing, but accurate...

[Edited 1/29/18 6:03am]

InThisBedIDream said:

Not nitpicky at all, you explained the system in the US.

Even if I did think it was nitpicky you did it in a nice way, it's all good,

Yeah, they made us take a course called "Nursing Law" in nursing school...We learned about torts and such, in addition to the importance of the chart and complete documentation to prevent successful malpractice lawsuits...Lol...

Did y'all know that medical staff are vulnerable to lawsuits for 7 years after the patient dies?...Not 7 years after staff cares for them, but 7 years after they die...So in my case, babies that I cared for in NICU way back in 1980, live into adulthood and die then up to 7 years after that I'm still vulnerable for lawsuit...and I've been retired over 2 years now, sooooo...

[Edited 1/29/18 16:50pm]

Genesia said:

laurarichardson said:

Genesia said:

He and Manuela weren't even married until 2001.

After M1 was gone and before he married M2 he looked better. Look at him in that Cheryl Crow clip on in the paper interview. Come on now.

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And, he looked good when he was with Bria. Although, he was still very skinny.

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Prince at age 40, looking mighty fine!

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