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Thread started 01/23/18 11:50am

lonelyalien

Why do you think prince never performed at glastonbury?

I always thought he would have made an amazing headline act especially if you see some of the shite they have headlining these days he would have gained a whole new audience I mean its one of the biggest festivals in the world if not the biggest. Prince would have just blown everyone else away headlining the pyramid stage such a shame.

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Reply #1 posted 01/23/18 12:25pm

funkypixie

Money (they don’t pay enough and rely on prestige) and TV Rights (you have to the performance be broadcast on British TV at least in part).
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Reply #2 posted 01/23/18 12:42pm

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I can 100% absolutely guarantee you that it was Glastonbury Thread Backlash, i.e. the 4,310 "Will Prince Play Glastonbury This Year?????" threads that cluttered the Org for months at a time, every single year.

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Reply #3 posted 01/23/18 12:46pm

lonelyalien

RodeoSchro said:

I can 100% absolutely guarantee you that it was Glastonbury Thread Backlash, i.e. the 4,310 "Will Prince Play Glastonbury This Year?????" threads that cluttered the Org for months at a time, every single year.

lol Ive only been on here a couple of weeks so I didnt know.

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Reply #4 posted 01/23/18 12:50pm

lonelyalien

funkypixie said:

Money (they don’t pay enough and rely on prestige) and TV Rights (you have to the performance be broadcast on British TV at least in part).

Well he didnt have a problem with doing the brit awards which was broadcast.

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Reply #5 posted 01/23/18 12:58pm

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Glastonbury is booked and planned 6+ months in advance, Prince rarely played gigs with more than a week's advance notice in his final decade. Michael Eavis wanted a signature and a guarantee that was never gonna happen.
[Edited 1/23/18 12:59pm]
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Reply #6 posted 01/23/18 1:12pm

funkypixie

lonelyalien said:



funkypixie said:


Money (they don’t pay enough and rely on prestige) and TV Rights (you have to the performance be broadcast on British TV at least in part).

Well he didnt have a problem with doing the brit awards which was broadcast.



That was a ten minute performance recorded on a time delay, more or less the same as being on Jay Leno, Ellen etc. This is ninety plus minutes gig broadcast live. Way less control over filming/production.
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Reply #7 posted 01/23/18 1:13pm

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He was so close to doing it aswell

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Reply #8 posted 01/23/18 1:19pm

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jaawwnn said:

Glastonbury is booked and planned 6+ months in advance, Prince rarely played gigs with more than a week's advance notice in his final decade. Michael Eavis wanted a signature and a guarantee that was never gonna happen. [Edited 1/23/18 12:59pm]

Prince played the 2011 Hop Farm Festival in England to a crowd of 30,000. True, that's a much smaller crowd than Glastonbury (which has an attendance of around 175,000, though split across many different stages and areas) but it does show that Prince was willing to headline a large open air festival, that presumably would have needed many months advance planning and notice.

But as people have said, it most likely has more to do with tv rights. The Hop Farm Festival isn't televised, but Glastonbury is, it's heavily linked to the BBC which has full coverage of it, with bigger acts having their entire sets being broadcast live and also streamed online with sets availble to watch on demand afterwards. Prince might not have been comfortable with that.

[Edited 1/23/18 13:23pm]

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Reply #9 posted 01/23/18 1:49pm

RodeoSchro

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lonelyalien said:

RodeoSchro said:

I can 100% absolutely guarantee you that it was Glastonbury Thread Backlash, i.e. the 4,310 "Will Prince Play Glastonbury This Year?????" threads that cluttered the Org for months at a time, every single year.

lol Ive only been on here a couple of weeks so I didnt know.




LOL, it was a running joke around here. And it ran for at least 10 years, maybe longer.

But actually, the point about TV rights is, I think, the main reason why Prince never played it. But no one outside of Prince and the Glastonbury officials probably really know.

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Reply #10 posted 01/23/18 1:50pm

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ShaggyDog said:



jaawwnn said:


Glastonbury is booked and planned 6+ months in advance, Prince rarely played gigs with more than a week's advance notice in his final decade. Michael Eavis wanted a signature and a guarantee that was never gonna happen. [Edited 1/23/18 12:59pm]



Prince played the 2011 Hop Farm Festival in England to a crowd of 30,000. True, that's a much smaller crowd than Glastonbury (which has an attendance of around 175,000, though split across many different stages and areas) but it does show that Prince was willing to headline a large open air festival, that presumably would have needed many months advance planning and notice.

But as people have said, it most likely has more to do with tv rights. The Hop Farm Festival isn't televised, but Glastonbury is, it's heavily linked to the BBC which has full coverage of it, with bigger acts having their entire sets being broadcast live and also streamed online with sets availble to watch on demand afterwards. Prince might not have been comfortable with that.

[Edited 1/23/18 13:23pm]



He was only announced for Hop Farm 6 weeks before he played and I'm fairly sure they added another day to the festival at announcement to accommodate him. I'm not saying my answer is the definitive answer but I'd wager its a major part. The Musicology tour was booked on handshakes, not contracts. Remember the Croke Park fiasco where they tried to force his hand by announcing the gig before he'd agreed? It was Prince's way or no way.

But having said that I'd imagine the TV thing would play a part alright. I heard someone talking about one of his Tonight show performances a few years back (I think the screwdriver performance), and they were saying he performed one song about 5 times and checked the playback each time before giving approval for broadcast.
[Edited 1/23/18 14:01pm]
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Reply #11 posted 01/23/18 2:39pm

Electrostar

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Everyone wants to play Glastonbury. So Prince decided not to. He was good at things like that.
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Reply #12 posted 01/23/18 3:28pm

lonelyalien

Ive been thinking maybe he didnt like doing festivals because the crowd arent necessarily there to see him a hangover from the rolling stones incident perhaps.

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Reply #13 posted 01/23/18 5:53pm

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It was a massive missed oppurtunity to boost his flagging profile with younger audiences in the UK - but did he need that? 21Nights proved he didn't need them.

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Reply #14 posted 01/23/18 7:02pm

laytonian

According to Michael Eavis, they were negotiating for him to appear in 2016.
http://www.independent.co...57366.html
Don't forget, he appeared at Coachella in 2008 -- so he was not against huge festivals.
So much lost.
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Reply #15 posted 01/24/18 2:25am

jcurley

laytonian said:

According to Michael Eavis, they were negotiating for him to appear in 2016.
http://www.independent.co...57366.html
Don't forget, he appeared at Coachella in 2008 -- so he was not against huge festivals.
So much lost.
[Edited 1/23/18 19:03pm]


Yeh. Didn't the Rolling Stones manage to limit the tv rights the BBC usually had access to? God Prince would have pulled off a blinder with Glastonbury. It would have been the perfect environment to cinfirm and shut folk up forever about him being THE guitar hero. I feel emotional just visualising it
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Reply #16 posted 01/24/18 3:14am

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laytonian said:

According to Michael Eavis, they were negotiating for him to appear in 2016. http://www.independent.co...57366.html Don't forget, he appeared at Coachella in 2008 -- so he was not against huge festivals. So much lost. [Edited 1/23/18 19:03pm]

According to Michael Eavis, they were negotiating for him to play in 2015, 2014, 2013, 2012 etc.


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Reply #17 posted 01/24/18 1:13pm

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Cos he did Hop Farm instead, rather well I might add cool
Just somewhere in the middle,
Not too good and not too bad.
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Reply #18 posted 01/26/18 1:08am

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KeithyT said:

Cos he did Hop Farm instead, rather well I might add cool

It was pretty good.

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Reply #19 posted 01/26/18 6:16am

67Cadillac

How did they get him to do Coachella?

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Reply #20 posted 01/26/18 7:13am

NME01

laytonian said:

According to Michael Eavis, they were negotiating for him to appear in 2016. http://www.independent.co...57366.html Don't forget, he appeared at Coachella in 2008 -- so he was not against huge festivals. So much lost. [Edited 1/23/18 19:03pm]

No offense meant, but Coachella is not quite Glastonbury in terms of heritage and status (globally). You can phone it in (it's not televised, right?), and a no-show, is just a no-show. No biggie.

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Reply #21 posted 01/26/18 7:41am

Boydie

It does always strike me as a bit weird that the Glastonbury tickets sell out BEFORE the acts are announced

I am just glad I got to see him 10minutes down the road from my house at the Hop Farm smile
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Reply #22 posted 01/26/18 8:18am

james

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The TV rights issue may have been a thing, but he did perform concerts live on TV in '88, and twice in '90 (Japan and Spain).

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He should have done Glastonbury. It would have been great for his image.

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