PennyPurple said:

laurarichardson said:

The family did not address it because they were aware of it. They were at home with him while he sat around with a broken hip. They had to know he needed extreamly strong meds since it appears he was not getting preped for surgery.

With clogged arteries I doubt he could have surgery and no one should be given fentenyl without monioring especially since he was addicted to herion in the past. No one said anything about a home health aide or nurse. So I think the family knew Tom was going to die

I expect they may say nothing for now and maybe say more later. I cannot see anyone sititng at home with a broken hip unless their health was too bad for surgery. I think we have to learn rock stars get old just like everyone else and they can die just like everyone else.

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Petty just got off tour. He found out the day before he died that his hip was completly broken. He died before he could do anything with the hip. People have heart trouble all the time, that doesn't preclude them from getting surgery.

i wonder why they didnt say something like "he was scheduled to see the dr tomorrow....." cause

i think it awful weird that someone with his means isnt' checked in asap!!! that mean either he found

out in the dr's office and the dr let him leave, or the dr came to his house or called him. he had

to be in office in order for someone to say look at this scan it show a complete break. his death is

jacked too IMO.

laurarichardson said:

Menes said:

WTF? You can hire your own PI's in the midst of any investigation if you choose to do so.Nothing in the law precludes you from doing that. You're so off. lol. Where do you get this ?

I never said they could not hire a PI but why would they. What do they pay taxes for? The Channasen police investigated Prince's case for over a year and a half. Why? Because they are paid by tax papers to do investigations.

Also it is stupid to have a PI investigating if the cops are investigating the case. Most people do this if they are unhappy with the results of the police investigation and after the investigation is closed.

are PI's real, i just thought they were used for fun tv shows, or where just good long distance photographers to catch people cheating. do they really possess detective skills??

laurarichardson said:

Menes said:

WTF? You can hire your own PI's in the midst of any investigation if you choose to do so.Nothing in the law precludes you from doing that. You're so off. lol. Where do you get this ?

I never said they could not hire a PI but why would they. What do they pay taxes for? The Channasen police investigated Prince's case for over a year and a half. Why? Because they are paid by tax papers to do investigations.

Also it is stupid to have a PI investigating if the cops are investigating the case. Most people do this if they are unhappy with the results of the police investigation and after the investigation is closed.

No, it is not stupid to hire your own PI's if you have the financial wherewithal to do so . It does not matter where LE is in their own investigation. That's a very smart move and is often exercised as a check and balance tool for verification contra- LE's own investigation. Oops.

Menes said:

XxAxX said:

Menes said:

No, it is not stupid to hire your own PI's if you have the financial wherewithal to do so . It does not matter where LE is in their own investigation. That's a very smart move and is often exercised as a check and balance tool for verification contra- LE's own investigation. Oops.

Right. Its been in the news recently that "billionaire couple" in Canada died in mysterious circumstances. The police report was 'murder suicide' but the family hired a PI who challenged the police investigation. Now the official cause of death is homicide, not murder suicide

Was that after the police finished their investigation because that is what usually happens and remember Tom's cause of death was only recently revelved perhaps the family is just finding out about the illegal fentenyal.

Let us give them sometime and they still are going to get an investigation by the police no matter if they hire their own PI or not that is what we all pay taxes for.

Menes said:

laurarichardson said:

I never said they could not hire a PI but why would they. What do they pay taxes for? The Channasen police investigated Prince's case for over a year and a half. Why? Because they are paid by tax papers to do investigations.

Also it is stupid to have a PI investigating if the cops are investigating the case. Most people do this if they are unhappy with the results of the police investigation and after the investigation is closed.

No, it is not stupid to hire your own PI's if you have the financial wherewithal to do so . It does not matter where LE is in their own investigation. That's a very smart move and is often exercised as a check and balance tool for verification contra- LE's own investigation. Oops.

Let us give them sometime and they still are going to get an investigation by the police no matter if they hire their own PI or not that is what we all pay taxes for.

Mumio said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Are the police looking for the supplier of Petty's illicit Fentanyl?

He had both prescribed and non-prescribed Fentanyl in his system.

That illicit fentanyl has slipped under most people's radar and they don't see it nor is anyone questioning it. But they should be. Because I'm not so sure about how things supposedly played out there given that was listed on the autopsy report.

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I concur. I don't understand why the illegal Fentanyl is not being investigated/discussed.

laurarichardson said:

Menes said:

WTF? You can hire your own PI's in the midst of any investigation if you choose to do so.Nothing in the law precludes you from doing that. You're so off. lol. Where do you get this ?

I never said they could not hire a PI but why would they. What do they pay taxes for? The Channasen police investigated Prince's case for over a year and a half. Why? Because they are paid by tax papers to do investigations.

Also it is stupid to have a PI investigating if the cops are investigating the case. Most people do this if they are unhappy with the results of the police investigation and after the investigation is closed.

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Just wanted to add, there are P.I. who are investigating Prince's death on their own time, without pay.

cloveringold85 said:

laurarichardson said:

I never said they could not hire a PI but why would they. What do they pay taxes for? The Channasen police investigated Prince's case for over a year and a half. Why? Because they are paid by tax papers to do investigations.

Also it is stupid to have a PI investigating if the cops are investigating the case. Most people do this if they are unhappy with the results of the police investigation and after the investigation is closed.

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Just wanted to add, there are P.I. who are investigating Prince's death on their own time, without pay.

Well that is interesting. I guess we will see.

cloveringold85 said:

laurarichardson said:

I never said they could not hire a PI but why would they. What do they pay taxes for? The Channasen police investigated Prince's case for over a year and a half. Why? Because they are paid by tax papers to do investigations.

Also it is stupid to have a PI investigating if the cops are investigating the case. Most people do this if they are unhappy with the results of the police investigation and after the investigation is closed.

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Just wanted to add, there are P.I. who are investigating Prince's death on their own time, without pay.

can anyone contact them if info is available or of use to them???

laurarichardson said:

Menes said:

No, it is not stupid to hire your own PI's if you have the financial wherewithal to do so . It does not matter where LE is in their own investigation. That's a very smart move and is often exercised as a check and balance tool for verification contra- LE's own investigation. Oops.

Let us give them sometime and they still are going to get an investigation by the police no matter if they hire their own PI or not that is what we all pay taxes for.

In the case of Prince, too much time is passing. There are inconsistencies in the warrants and in statements made . Hell, Tyka could pay me a small fee right now and I would show her so many things that are off.

Here's a doosy: Did Dr. Schulenberg knowingly prescribe anything in Kirk's name for Prince according to the warrant? If the answer is that he stated that he did, then the Minnesota Medical Practice board is not aware of it. His former employer is not aware of it. The two must be reconciled. Either the investigator is lying, or the board/hospital is negligent. If he did say it, and it can be proven, I'm suing the hospital and the board for medical malpractice immediately.

She's not going to know these things thru the miraculous process of osmosis or divine intervention. She has to hire her own PI's. and point out the mental anguish , psychological injury and stress that has affected her because of misleading information. All these family members who claim they might know a thing or two should hire private investigators and force things out in the open. C/A's are null and void so there is nothing to impede them from speaking to whomever they so desire. It's the only way to put effective pressure on any investigation that has run its course. Smart people know this.

Now, if you have accepted and agreed with whatever the investigators/ME have determined to be the "facts" , then you keep your mouth shut and get your money some other way. Do you know how many people challenge ME's and LE privately and legally?

cloveringold85 said:

laurarichardson said:

I never said they could not hire a PI but why would they. What do they pay taxes for? The Channasen police investigated Prince's case for over a year and a half. Why? Because they are paid by tax papers to do investigations.

Also it is stupid to have a PI investigating if the cops are investigating the case. Most people do this if they are unhappy with the results of the police investigation and after the investigation is closed.

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Just wanted to add, there are P.I. who are investigating Prince's death on their own time, without pay.

indeed we read their musings here on this very site.

luvsexy4all said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Just wanted to add, there are P.I. who are investigating Prince's death on their own time, without pay.

can anyone contact them if info is available or of use to them???

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They are working undercover, so their identity has to remain private. I got this info off the Getting 2 the Truth FB page a few months ago. Lots of info on there and they have been staying on top of things.....there are also numerous closed groups as well.

purplefam99 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Just wanted to add, there are P.I. who are investigating Prince's death on their own time, without pay.

indeed we read their musings here on this very site.

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Funny!

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I wasn't referring to any of us, although there are a few good Sherlocks on this forum.

cloveringold85 said:

purplefam99 said:

indeed we read their musings here on this very site.

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Funny!

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I wasn't referring to any of us, although there are a few good Sherlocks on this forum.

nicely put clover.

Menes said:

laurarichardson said:

Let us give them sometime and they still are going to get an investigation by the police no matter if they hire their own PI or not that is what we all pay taxes for.

In the case of Prince, too much time is passing. There are inconsistencies in the warrants and in statements made . Hell, Tyka could pay me a small fee right now and I would show her so many things that are off.

Here's a doosy: Did Dr. Schulenberg knowingly prescribe anything in Kirk's name for Prince according to the warrant? If the answer is that he stated that he did, then the Minnesota Medical Practice board is not aware of it. His former employer is not aware of it. The two must be reconciled. Either the investigator is lying, or the board/hospital is negligent. If he did say it, and it can be proven, I'm suing the hospital and the board for medical malpractice immediately.

She's not going to know these things thru the miraculous process of osmosis or divine intervention. She has to hire her own PI's. and point out the mental anguish , psychological injury and stress that has affected her because of misleading information. All these family members who claim they might know a thing or two should hire private investigators and force things out in the open. C/A's are null and void so there is nothing to impede them from speaking to whomever they so desire. It's the only way to put effective pressure on any investigation that has run its course. Smart people know this.

Now, if you have accepted and agreed with whatever the investigators/ME have determined to be the "facts" , then you keep your mouth shut and get your money some other way. Do you know how many people challenge ME's and LE privately and legally?

"I'm suing the hospital and the board for medical malpractice immediately. "

I noted before that back in the fall of 2016 there was a rumor that the family was going to file a malpratice suit. I heard nothing else about it until last spring when a malpratice attorney appeared in the court docs representing Tyka.

That lawyer did not hang around long but now today Tyka has left the lawyer she and Omarr had and now has a new attorney so who knows.

cloveringold85 said:

laurarichardson said:

I never said they could not hire a PI but why would they. What do they pay taxes for? The Channasen police investigated Prince's case for over a year and a half. Why? Because they are paid by tax papers to do investigations.

Also it is stupid to have a PI investigating if the cops are investigating the case. Most people do this if they are unhappy with the results of the police investigation and after the investigation is closed.

.

Just wanted to add, there are P.I. who are investigating Prince's death on their own time, without pay.

this is good news

laurarichardson said:

Menes said:

In the case of Prince, too much time is passing. There are inconsistencies in the warrants and in statements made . Hell, Tyka could pay me a small fee right now and I would show her so many things that are off.

Here's a doosy: Did Dr. Schulenberg knowingly prescribe anything in Kirk's name for Prince according to the warrant? If the answer is that he stated that he did, then the Minnesota Medical Practice board is not aware of it. His former employer is not aware of it. The two must be reconciled. Either the investigator is lying, or the board/hospital is negligent. If he did say it, and it can be proven, I'm suing the hospital and the board for medical malpractice immediately.

She's not going to know these things thru the miraculous process of osmosis or divine intervention. She has to hire her own PI's. and point out the mental anguish , psychological injury and stress that has affected her because of misleading information. All these family members who claim they might know a thing or two should hire private investigators and force things out in the open. C/A's are null and void so there is nothing to impede them from speaking to whomever they so desire. It's the only way to put effective pressure on any investigation that has run its course. Smart people know this.

Now, if you have accepted and agreed with whatever the investigators/ME have determined to be the "facts" , then you keep your mouth shut and get your money some other way. Do you know how many people challenge ME's and LE privately and legally?

"I'm suing the hospital and the board for medical malpractice immediately. "

I noted before that back in the fall of 2016 there was a rumor that the family was going to file a malpratice suit. I heard nothing else about it until last spring when a malpratice attorney appeared in the court docs representing Tyka.

That lawyer did not hang around long but now today Tyka has left the lawyer she and Omarr had and now has a new attorney so who knows.

Maybe the lawyers left her. It happens. She is very much like her brother in regards to impulsive/irrational decisions.

Menes said:

laurarichardson said:

"I'm suing the hospital and the board for medical malpractice immediately. "

I noted before that back in the fall of 2016 there was a rumor that the family was going to file a malpratice suit. I heard nothing else about it until last spring when a malpratice attorney appeared in the court docs representing Tyka.

That lawyer did not hang around long but now today Tyka has left the lawyer she and Omarr had and now has a new attorney so who knows.

Maybe the lawyers left her. It happens. She is very much like her brother in regards to impulsive/irrational decisions.

Fueled by 1) belief in God,2) their own agency being more valid than any advice ever offered by any other human being,3) paranoia, 4) isolation, 5) a need to control, 6) a refusal to accept that no one has control, 7) world-weariness from having had everything, all the time for 4 decades, 8)lasting love, the Holy grail, seemingly forever just out of reach. He was done. RIP.

Menes said:

laurarichardson said:

"I'm suing the hospital and the board for medical malpractice immediately. "

I noted before that back in the fall of 2016 there was a rumor that the family was going to file a malpratice suit. I heard nothing else about it until last spring when a malpratice attorney appeared in the court docs representing Tyka.

That lawyer did not hang around long but now today Tyka has left the lawyer she and Omarr had and now has a new attorney so who knows.

Maybe the lawyers left her. It happens. She is very much like her brother in regards to impulsive/irrational decisions.

Condescending and arrogant about people you do not know from fucking Adam.

laurarichardson said:

Menes said:

Maybe the lawyers left her. It happens. She is very much like her brother in regards to impulsive/irrational decisions.

Condescending and arrogant about people you do not know from fucking Adam.

You started out with Jesus. Now you're into Adam? I'm betting that Moses is next.

I would not be surprised if Tyka's lawyer decided to step out. I sure can't blame him. He probably realized he was in way over his head and didn't see it as worth his while anymore.

Menes said:

laurarichardson said:

Condescending and arrogant about people you do not know from fucking Adam.

You started out with Jesus. Now you're into Adam? I'm betting that Moses is next.

Woh you had a brain fart coming up with that one.

As we discuss Tyka moving on to the new lawyer, I keep thinking about Prince knowing he was just a cash register to these people - all of them. Relatives, friends, women, employees, advisors ... How awful to apparently have no one who loved him for him and not for his money.

1Sasha said:

As we discuss Tyka moving on to the new lawyer, I keep thinking about Prince knowing he was just a cash register to these people - all of them. Relatives, friends, women, employees, advisors ... How awful to apparently have no one who loved him for him and not for his money.

Well his 1st wife loved him and not for his money, but that's not what he wanted.

PennyPurple said:

1Sasha said:

As we discuss Tyka moving on to the new lawyer, I keep thinking about Prince knowing he was just a cash register to these people - all of them. Relatives, friends, women, employees, advisors ... How awful to apparently have no one who loved him for him and not for his money.

Well his 1st wife loved him and not for his money, but that's not what he wanted.

i agree with that, she didn't ask for anything in that divorce. and the bolded i can only

shake my head at and say, it was his life and he ran it. if he was unloved then it was because he

didn't know what else to make a ballad about. He had plenty opportunities to be loved for himself

but he wasn't keen on those options is my guess.

sonshine said:

My apologies if this has been posted, but everyone here needs to hear this: http://minnesota.cbslocal...ces-death/ No surprises. But I am surprised at the amount of debate that continues considering this re-inforces what has been stated from the beginning about his cause of death. Accidental overdose of fentanyl. Fentanyl was procured vis the black market from China. Zero proof Prince was otherwise ill. Kirk likely had knowlege of his struggle. No criminal charges likely, at least not serious. Minor charges possible if at all. No wrong doing on the part of several major players. Its as it always has been. Prince OD'd and should have been monitored more closely until real help was secured.

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There's already a discussion going over here.......

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http://prince.org/msg/7/451632

cloveringold85 said: