I like ONA, I think it is very good, but like a lot of others, I prefer the bootlegs of ONA.

I feel sorry for any Prince fan that didn't see this show live because it was awesome.

theblueangel said:

What I meant is that the package doesn't sound like a live
album at all to me. The audience is so low in the mix that
I can only hear them on headphones or when I turn the vol
up to maximum.

Furthermore, the sound is kind of flat and screened, I don't
know how to explain that. Like there's a cloth hanging over
your speakers. Muffled is the word I guess.

That's why I prefer most boots. They might not have the best
soundquality but at least they sound live and raw.

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[This message was edited Thu Apr 17 4:40:00 PDT 2003 by IstenSzek]

IstenSzek said:

What I meant is that the package doesn't sound like a live
album at all to me. The audience is so low in the mix that
I can only hear them on headphones or when I turn the vol
up to maximum.

Furthermore, the sound is kind of flat and screened, I don't
know how to explain that. Like there's a cloth hanging over
your speakers. Muffled is the word I guess.

That's why I prefer most boots. They might not have the best
soundquality but at least they sound live and raw.[/quote]

I agree... he took the tracks from the soundboard and then went into the studio to overdub and remove anything that he didn't like, apparently including any live feeling.

Haystack said:

If you havent experienced the songs live or been a some of the gigs that were on the record as I was, then you are speraking from a invalid perspective. Your opinion is always your own but how enlightened it is can be questioned and thus cause it to be suspect at best.

IceNine said:

I agree... he took the tracks from the soundboard and then went into the studio to overdub and remove anything that he didn't like, apparently including any live feeling.[/quote]

Hearing audience noise (why anyone would want it is beyond me) could be a result of your cheap ass stereo. It comes over my NHT speakers just fine

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

D&P= INFINITE SHITE!

LaMont said:

Hearing audience noise (why anyone would want it is beyond me) could be a result of your cheap ass stereo. It comes over my NHT speakers just fine[/quote]

LaMont, LaMont, LaMont...
First: NHT speakers aren't really great and I wouldn't want them.

Second: the audience sounds and the non-sterile sound give the recording energy and excitement.

Third: I would prefer the audience noise and the live feel and my stereo is comprised of an Enlightened Audio Designs TheaterMaster Signature processor, an Enlightened Audio Designs PowerMaster 2000 amplifier, an Enlightened Audio Designs TheaterVision P DVD player, Definitive Technology BP3000TL front speakers and a host of other crap. All these components are connected with AudioQuest cables and I have replaced all the power outlets with direct-wired audio grade plugs... all equipment is connected through a Tice PowerBlock III Signature power conditioner. I am not too sure that your NHT speakers and your RadioShack reciever can compare, therefore your "cheap ass stereo" comment was ridiculous.

Fourth: get rid of the NHT soon.

I don't have one nite alone live, but I heard that there is a real stupid and embarressing live version of Alphabet Street on it.

IceNine said:

LaMont, LaMont, LaMont...
First: NHT speakers aren't really great and I wouldn't want them.

Second: the audience sounds and the non-sterile sound give the recording energy and excitement.

Third: I would prefer the audience noise and the live feel and my stereo is comprised of an Enlightened Audio Designs TheaterMaster Signature processor, an Enlightened Audio Designs PowerMaster 2000 amplifier, an Enlightened Audio Designs TheaterVision P DVD player, Definitive Technology BP3000TL front speakers and a host of other crap. All these components are connected with AudioQuest cables and I have replaced all the power outlets with direct-wired audio grade plugs... all equipment is connected through a Tice PowerBlock III Signature power conditioner. I am not too sure that your NHT speakers and your RadioShack reciever can compare, therefore your "cheap ass stereo" comment was ridiculous.

Fourth: get rid of the NHT soon.[/quote]


Why yes. Plus, when Prince gives the crow a cue to sing the
next few lines or to do a chant, I would like to hear the
audience. So that's why I would like to hear the freakin'
crowd.

It was already like that with "Days Of Wild: FreeTheSlave"
no crystal ball.

He tells the crowd to chant "Free The Slave" and when they
do he puts them way down in the mix. Sound very silly.

That's not a result of "cheap ass speakers" cos my brother
is an audiophile and his soundsystem is many a studiodude's
wet dream.

Just face it, the way he mixed the album is shit. Is that
such a bad thing to say anyway?

It's nowhere near his worst

I enjoy bits and pieces of the album, but I can't stand the preaching. The medley on disc 2 was pretty tight, especially when he breaks into Nothing Compares 2 U. But there are certainly some performances on here I would have substituted with bette live renditions. The tracklisting is a bit odd and uneventful.

It Aint Over is great minus the Musiq and George Clinton parts.

"you're crazy, man!"

I dont listen to it a lot, but I dont hate it. I think he should've waited until the European/Japanese leg of the tour was over so he could put some of those shows on there.

IceNine said:

IMO Courtin' Time is a good tune. I didn't like it much at first but like all P's music the more I listen to it the more I like it. It sounds like it's from the 20's or something. We all know how he likes to experiment.

Back on topic, I haven't listened to ONA Live and I won't be buying it considering it was $110 here in Canada last time I checked.

>Not one of the tracks on it improves on the original studio recordings, or gives off any kind of electric vibe. The result is an album of un-inspiring re-recordings, with a distant crowd noise in the background.<

I disagree with that statement, because personally I think songs like Extraordinary, The Rainbow Children, Avalanche, Family Name, Everlasting Now, and Dorothy Parker were taken to a new level. Musically, they were much more impressive than their studio counterparts.

I agree that the crowd noise wasn't handled that well. In fact, the crowd is actually louder on the aftershow disc than the 2 main show discs. That's pretty messed up. However, you could go either way with the crowd noise and people won't be happy. There's as many people that hate it as there are people that like it.

ONA Live - Prince's worst album ever?

I've come to the conclusion that ONA Live is my least favourite Prince album. There is absolutely nothing about it that makes me want to listen to it, except for 'Xenophobia'.

Experiencing the songs live may have been amazing (I wouldn't know, seeing as the NPGMC site constantly locked up when I tried to buy tickets), but hearing this recording certainly doesn't exactly make me wish that I had been there!

Not one of the tracks on it improves on the original studio recordings, or gives off any kind of electric vibe. The result is an album of un-inspiring re-recordings, with a distant crowd noise in the background.

The album is totally without atmosphere.

Listen to ANY Prince live bootleg and hear what a live recording SHOULD sound like.

ONA Live is definitely NOT what I wanted as a live Prince album.

Does anybody agree with this statement, or do you think that I'm talking rubbish?

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Ultimately, I'm right and you're wrong.
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What r u talking about?!

Joy in Repetition on disc3 is ONA's best track.That song alone makes it better than several more recent albums he's done.

It's not terrible but neither does it rank alongside the superior bootlegs circulating around in any way other than sound quality.

A nice enough document of ONA tour though.

You all were fucking going apeshit about how great his last tour was, now you diss the disk from the same tour. You people frustrate me; even though my love for you is solid.

Emancipation=classic
ONA live=great

Sexy Dancer=triple fudge shit. haha

2freaky4church1 said:

emancipation + ona live = sextuple-decker poo banana split.

No Prince album is as bad as New Power Soul. That piece of shit is so bad, I had to put a box of Arm & Hammer next to it to take care of the stench!

hectim said:

And some like P, MJ, Led Zep, and Maceo.