Listen to what Morris, who was with Prince from 1992-2012, says starting around 3:20 mins. Especially around 4:00: "If you find me floating in a river"! Very Chilling! They didn't find him in a river but they did find him in a elevator...

love him ..no bull with him

so did "they" kill him cause they couldnt make money off him ?

luvsexy4all said:

so did "they" kill him cause they couldnt make money off him ?

Prince told people where to go and how to get there and I know he pissed people off. We just do not know if it was enough for someone to hurt him.

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luvsexy4all said:

so did "they" kill him cause they couldnt make money off him ?

i'm interested in whether these people actually believe that, meaning the people around him who've insinuated that and there have been a couple.

laurarichardson said:

luvsexy4all said:

so did "they" kill him cause they couldnt make money off him ?

Prince told people where to go and how to get there and I know he pissed people off. We just do not know if it was enough for someone to hurt him.

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its all about money these days....THAT would be enough to want him dead

luvsexy4all said:

laurarichardson said:

Prince told people where to go and how to get there and I know he pissed people off. We just do not know if it was enough for someone to hurt him.

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its all about money these days....THAT would be enough to want him dead

ya, but that's kinda unheard of, in politics, there are reasons i could see but why a musician who's place in the public eye wasn't that strong, he didn't have any hold over the general public. Money? sure, money is always a great motivator but i need to see proof.

luvsexy4all said:

so did "they" kill him cause they couldnt make money off him ?

We'll never know, but perhaps that is why he chose to not leave a will. He believed people wanted him to die. His social media posts hinted as much. When you are Prince naming people in a will, and making them aware they are beneficiary, might lead you to question their relationship with you. All that is just to say perception matters more than reality.

Still, it's not clear that his death has been profitable. Who HAS benefitted since his death? Record companies? It's been a big time consuming mess getting things to a point where they might profit from a modestly sized fan base that is shrinking every day. Cost prohibitive as the business types say. Perhaps that was his plan, too.

If so, good for him.

PeteSilas said:

FUNKNROLL said:

laurarichardson said:

FUNKNROLL said:

We'll never know, but perhaps that is why he chose to not leave a will. He believed people wanted him to die. His social media posts hinted as much. When you are Prince naming people in a will, and making them aware they are beneficiary, might lead you to question their relationship with you. All that is just to say perception matters more than reality.

Still, it's not clear that his death has been profitable. Who HAS benefitted since his death? Record companies? It's been a big time consuming mess getting things to a point where they might profit from a modestly sized fan base that is shrinking every day. Cost prohibitive as the business types say. Perhaps that was his plan, too.

If so, good for him.

His estate made 16 million this year. Kirk and his entire family are working Paisley Park, Associates some of whom have not been on stage in years are touring. Ex-wives are writing books, jump-offs and side pieces are making money. 20k worth of audio and video were hauled out of Paisley. What are you talking about?

I'm talking about someone's idea the record companies may have orchestrated his death for profit. Sure, people that were in his orbit are now trying to make money on the side from tell all books, crappy T-shirts, and holiday ornaments. That's expected. IMO - doesn't point to a large scale plan for benefitting from his death.

But this idea the record companies set things in motion so they could turn the event into a money printing machine for making a windfall, afterwards, seems flawed. Since his death - his state of affairs, and a dwindling fan base, seems to have made it no easier for the record companies to make money off his music.

If there are 100k people who would be willing to spend $30 on a new Prince album (potentially yielding $3 million) and it costs $10 million to do the deal... or that 100k customer base keeps shrinking... fuhgeddaboutit.

All the legal wrangling and production costs seem cost prohibitive, not worth their investment. And there seems no vision for generating interest in the music so they can sell vault material or remasters.

FUNKNROLL said:

but if u add up rec co. , family members, ex-associates .....all would tend to profit from his death ultimately

So will hearing this now bring him back? if not it's really irr elevant isn't it.

Wlcm2thdwn3 said:

Thank You Sista, Amen to That!!!!

laurarichardson said:

FUNKNROLL said:

We'll never know, but perhaps that is why he chose to not leave a will. He believed people wanted him to die. His social media posts hinted as much. When you are Prince naming people in a will, and making them aware they are beneficiary, might lead you to question their relationship with you. All that is just to say perception matters more than reality.

Still, it's not clear that his death has been profitable. Who HAS benefitted since his death? Record companies? It's been a big time consuming mess getting things to a point where they might profit from a modestly sized fan base that is shrinking every day. Cost prohibitive as the business types say. Perhaps that was his plan, too.

If so, good for him.

His estate made 16 million this year. Kirk and his entire family are working Paisley Park, Associates some of whom have not been on stage in years are touring. Ex-wives are writing books, jump-offs and side pieces are making money. 20k worth of audio and video were hauled out of Paisley. What are you talking about?

to the bolded part, are you serious? But for real about how many of Kirk's family members are working at PP?

FUNKNROLL said:

luvsexy4all said:

so did "they" kill him cause they couldnt make money off him ?

We'll never know, but perhaps that is why he chose to not leave a will. He believed people wanted him to die. His social media posts hinted as much. When you are Prince naming people in a will, and making them aware they are beneficiary, might lead you to question their relationship with you. All that is just to say perception matters more than reality.

Still, it's not clear that his death has been profitable. Who HAS benefitted since his death? Record companies? It's been a big time consuming mess getting things to a point where they might profit from a modestly sized fan base that is shrinking every day. Cost prohibitive as the business types say. Perhaps that was his plan, too.

If so, good for him.

He could have had a will and nobody know whose in it until unsealed or read by a attorney, executor, etc. if he wanted to set up that way.

No one killed Prince.

Astasheiks said:

laurarichardson said:

FUNKNROLL said: His estate made 16 million this year. Kirk and his entire family are working Paisley Park, Associates some of whom have not been on stage in years are touring. Ex-wives are writing books, jump-offs and side pieces are making money. 20k worth of audio and video were hauled out of Paisley. What are you talking about?

to the bolded part, are you serious? But for real about how many of Kirk's family members are working at PP?

According to Prince's cousin the whole Kirk clan is working at Paisley.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

No one killed Prince.

Unless he had a pill stamp factory in the basement of Paisley Park whoever got those drugs for him did indeed kill him and can be charged. May not have been the intent but people are being charged with murder for providing these drugs.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

No one killed Prince.

i think it's possible he killed himself. i still don't know though that's why i'm trying like hell to keep an open mind to even the crazy theories.

How is that comment surprising to anyone? Of course Prince knew he was ruffling feathers to the point someone might take action one day. He was smart and fearless, but at the same time guarded, and intelligent ehough to realize the evil ways of man. History has proven this, so the comment really should not be surprising to anyone.

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THe Kirk Johnson thing bothers me the most. Everybody making a profit off P in some way or another is either okay with Johnson or directly supportive. Only those not making money off of P are having issues with him, but those folks might be going at him because they wish they were making money off of P. Its all so sad. A man's life don't seem to mean much in the scheme of things. There are some charming likable folks in P's camp but my doubts about their sincereity always pop up when I think about their complete and unconditional support of Johnson. Unless, that is, he explained himself. But who knows. Its almost like they think Kirk was Prince's victim..like they are saying "Look what Prince put Kirk though, Poor Kirk.. he was forced to choose between doing the right thing and his job. I am not sure what I would do." Well, the line in the sand seems like it should be pretty clear where illegally procuring drugs is concerned..(Unless that Mekon Bekure lady was the one doing it.)

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purplerabbithole said:

THe Kirk Johnson thing bothers me the most. Everybody making a profit off P in some way or another is either okay with Johnson or directly supportive. Only those not making money off of P are having issues with him, but those folks might be going at him because they wish they were making money off of P. Its all so sad. A man's life don't seem to mean much in the scheme of things. There are some charming likable folks in P's camp but my doubts about their sincereity always pop up when I think about their complete and unconditional support of Johnson. Unless, that is, he explained himself. But who knows. Its almost like they think Kirk was Prince's victim..like they are saying "Look what Prince put Kirk though, Poor Kirk..."

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I know your last line is true and insane. Even if this was a sucide from Kirk's screaming on that 911 tape I doubt he was involved or knew about death coming. I am not sure why associates are boo hoo hooing for him. He is alive and well.

If he knows something and some sort of arrangement has been made so he gets his mouth shut that is even more appalling.

Prince Killed Prince. Its sad to think about how many new songs he could have written since his death.

SOMEBODYSSOMEBODY said:

Prince Killed Prince. Its sad to think about how many new songs he could have written since his death.

That is all you care about? How many more songs could he have written for you. Makes you as bad as the associates.

Of course Prince killed himself...at least accidentally. The question for me is "Was he helped by enablers" who are still being defended by the supposed Purple family because to call outKirk is to call out themselves"/

SOMEBODYSSOMEBODY said:

Prince Killed Prince. Its sad to think about how many new songs he could have written since his death.

Do not waste your time. Some people on this board are lost in their own agenda just like the associates.

purplerabbithole said:

Of course Prince killed himself...at least accidentally. The question for me is "Was he helped by enablers" who are still being defended by the supposed Purple family because to call outKirk is to call out themselves"/

SOMEBODYSSOMEBODY said:

Prince Killed Prince. Its sad to think about how many new songs he could have written since his death.

laurarichardson said:

Astasheiks said:

to the bolded part, are you serious? But for real about how many of Kirk's family members are working at PP?

According to Prince's cousin the whole Kirk clan is working at Paisley.

Wonder how many?