cloveringold85 said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Leah Remini has a show on cable about uncovering the abuse of Scientology.

It is frightening.

However, Leah recently stated they are also going to look into the JWs for future segments because of the numerous emails, letters, etc received about abuses in the JW religion.

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I wonder about that show Leah is doing about Scientology. Isn't it dangerous for her to be doing that, because you would think they would tell her to shut her mouth about disclosing information about their cult practices.

i don't know, i'm sure they might want to kill her, don't think they'd go that far. but who knows. those assholes need to be outted.

PeteSilas said:

cloveringold85 said:

Fact is if chemtrails are real and you see them every day then you're already being controlled by them, sorry guys, not a lot you can do at this point.

PeteSilas said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I wonder about that show Leah is doing about Scientology. Isn't it dangerous for her to be doing that, because you would think they would tell her to shut her mouth about disclosing information about their cult practices.

i don't know, i'm sure they might want to kill her, don't think they'd go that far. but who knows. those assholes need to be outted.

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I just think the whole thing is weird. Why would she put herself at risk like that? Going up against a very powerful organization like that is not very wise, imo.

ufoclub said:

cloveringold85 said:

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to the bolded above.

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But if you are a paranoid person, nothing will make sense to you.

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Chemtrails are real. Do you think they are spraying shit in the air for the hell of it? I see them spraying shit in the sky where I live all the time, and it's happening everywhere. Normal exhaust from jets don't linger in the sky for hours on-end.

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If Chick was on coke, then there is nothing to believe about what he says, so consider the source.

Chemtrails are not real. A few years ago at the university of Michigan I was with a scientist doing research on contrails (which is what you see) and had a good laugh about the belief in chemtrails as a gov’t conspiracy. If you think they are real, go an ask a REAL person who is a researcher/scientist that works with contrails or anything atmosphere related to find out what they have to say. Don’t trust any media (conspiracy media) and don’t rely on your intuition. People thought the earth was flat, and rain was water from the heavens, and human flight was impossible when left to their own common sense. I believe that Prince exhibited the very common tendency for people with a high aptitude for learning and intelligence (but that have not actually sought out true disciplined education) of latching onto various detailed theories and “windows” into perspectives of how things really are organized in our reality... without digging into the logic or credibility too far.

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I respect what you said, given you have first-hand knowledge/experience on the subject. What then is the contrails that are left behind that stay in the sky all day? Is that normal? There are days when I see airplanes flying back and forth all day long and leaving contrails in the sky. Why are they doing this? I am concerned that whatever it is, it can't be healthy, and this is why people are upset.

jaawwnn said:

Fact is if chemtrails are real and you see them every day then you're already being controlled by them, sorry guys, not a lot you can do at this point.

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True. .

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Makes you wonder why we keep hearing about these new diseases, but I don't want to start any conspiracies, LOL

cloveringold85 said:

jaawwnn said:

Fact is if chemtrails are real and you see them every day then you're already being controlled by them, sorry guys, not a lot you can do at this point.

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True. .

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Makes you wonder why we keep hearing about these new diseases, but I don't want to start any conspiracies, LOL

who knows but some of it could be the shit in our environment. I was researching alzheimers, well, i learned that different countries have a lot more than others, must be something causative. some guy said a prion caused it, whatever that is, it sounded to me like it could be considered a communicative disease when you consider that spouses of patients have a higher chance of getting alzheimers. lots of bad things happen and not because of conspiracy but just because no one gives a fuck.

laurarichardson said:

Seahorsie said:

Polo's got a good thought process going on here. If you suddenly became wildly famous, you might have a right to a litte paranoia yourself. I personally think his emotional problems stemmed from his lack of warmth from his own family (parents especially), and the fact that he was never able to create the family of his own that it seems he did want. *Music is beautiful, but it won't keep you warm at night.

—-Nothing to do with people actually stealing things and fucking him over.

YES, that too.

cloveringold85 said:

ufoclub said:

cloveringold85 said: Chemtrails are not real. A few years ago at the university of Michigan I was with a scientist doing research on contrails (which is what you see) and had a good laugh about the belief in chemtrails as a gov’t conspiracy. If you think they are real, go an ask a REAL person who is a researcher/scientist that works with contrails or anything atmosphere related to find out what they have to say. Don’t trust any media (conspiracy media) and don’t rely on your intuition. People thought the earth was flat, and rain was water from the heavens, and human flight was impossible when left to their own common sense. I believe that Prince exhibited the very common tendency for people with a high aptitude for learning and intelligence (but that have not actually sought out true disciplined education) of latching onto various detailed theories and “windows” into perspectives of how things really are organized in our reality... without digging into the logic or credibility too far.

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I respect what you said, given you have first-hand knowledge/experience on the subject. What then is the contrails that are left behind that stay in the sky all day? Is that normal? There are days when I see airplanes flying back and forth all day long and leaving contrails in the sky. Why are they doing this? I am concerned that whatever it is, it can't be healthy, and this is why people are upset.

They aren't "doing" anything. Contrails mostly made up of water vapor. The air at the cruising altitude of a jet is extremely cold - much colder than the plane exhaust from the plane. When the exhaust hits the cold air, it the water in it condenses into a cloud.

It's like when you drive your car in very cold weather and you can actually see the exhaust. OMG - your car is making a chemtrail! WTF are you doing?!

Sometimes, if the air aloft is very cold but also extremely dry, the water vapor in the exhaust will evaporate immediately. So whether you do or don't see a contrail depends on the temperature and moisture content of the air the plane is flying through.

PeteSilas said:

cloveringold85 said:

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True. .

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Makes you wonder why we keep hearing about these new diseases, but I don't want to start any conspiracies, LOL

who knows but some of it could be the shit in our environment. I was researching alzheimers, well, i learned that different countries have a lot more than others, must be something causative. some guy said a prion caused it, whatever that is, it sounded to me like it could be considered a communicative disease when you consider that spouses of patients have a higher chance of getting alzheimers. lots of bad things happen and not because of conspiracy but just because no one gives a fuck.

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That is true. Look at Asia for instance; all sorts of problems there and it's so over-populated.

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I think people in general do not care about the world or what the future holds.

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If you really think about all the problems in the world, it's enough to make you paranoid. I think the media is nothing more than fear mongers. You see the news headlines and it's just depressing.

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Like Prince said: As humans, were are not equipped to deal with all the problems of the world and what we see on CNN. It's just too much information overload.

cloveringold85 said:

I respect what you said, given you have first-hand knowledge/experience on the subject. What then is the contrails that are left behind that stay in the sky all day? Is that normal? There are days when I see airplanes flying back and forth all day long and leaving contrails in the sky. Why are they doing this? I am concerned that whatever it is, it can't be healthy, and this is why people are upset.

Clover, I posted a link to a site in message 33 of this thread that will give you all the information you could ever possibly want regarding chemtrails/contrails, etc. Please do go there and check it out, they know what they are talking about there and help others to understand.

[Edited 1/2/18 14:50pm]

cloveringold85 said:

PeteSilas said:

who knows but some of it could be the shit in our environment. I was researching alzheimers, well, i learned that different countries have a lot more than others, must be something causative. some guy said a prion caused it, whatever that is, it sounded to me like it could be considered a communicative disease when you consider that spouses of patients have a higher chance of getting alzheimers. lots of bad things happen and not because of conspiracy but just because no one gives a fuck.

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That is true. Look at Asia for instance; all sorts of problems there and it's so over-populated.

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I think people in general do not care about the world or what the future holds.

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If you really think about all the problems in the world, it's enough to make you paranoid. I think the media is nothing more than fear mongers. You see the news headlines and it's just depressing.

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Like Prince said: As humans, were are not equipped to deal with all the problems of the world and what we see on CNN. It's just too much information overload.

ya, I happen to think he might have just given up on the world and killed himself. My take is a little different, and that is to just get away from as much of the poisons, both societal and environmental, and try to live a good life.

thedance said:

the media was against Prince especially after the "We are the world" incident in the mid-80s, when he, Prince, (wisely) chose, right denied to not support that VERY crappy MJ/Lionel Ritchie-song..

the media made him look like a freak, trashed him, back then, and very ofter afterwards..

I would have some paranoia as well, wouldn't trust everyone - if this had happened to me..

Prince, in this way he was healthy imho..

But Prince was superstitious already...
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I don't think the media was against him.
I think there is something in life when a person fights to 'control' certain things, it insights a desire by others to want more from that person, causing the person to tighten the control reigns even more.

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But Prince was superstitious already...

Genesia said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I respect what you said, given you have first-hand knowledge/experience on the subject. What then is the contrails that are left behind that stay in the sky all day? Is that normal? There are days when I see airplanes flying back and forth all day long and leaving contrails in the sky. Why are they doing this? I am concerned that whatever it is, it can't be healthy, and this is why people are upset.

They aren't "doing" anything. Contrails mostly made up of water vapor. The air at the cruising altitude of a jet is extremely cold - much colder than the plane exhaust from the plane. When the exhaust hits the cold air, it the water in it condenses into a cloud.

It's like when you drive your car in very cold weather and you can actually see the exhaust. OMG - your car is making a chemtrail! WTF are you doing?!

Sometimes, if the air aloft is very cold but also extremely dry, the water vapor in the exhaust will evaporate immediately. So whether you do or don't see a contrail depends on the temperature and moisture content of the air the plane is flying through.

It does astound me that somebody as clearly as extremely intelligent as Prince believed in chemtrails. I just hope he wasn't a Flat Earther too... (half joking)

he said mayte was the only person who never showed him hostility (he used a different word)......wouldnt THAT make a person REASONABLY paranoid ?

he probably was, quincy jones said he gave some feathers and a tootsie roll to MJ who thought it was voodoo and it almost makes me wonder if the stories in the enquierer where he almost fired a limo driver because he wasn't getting his psychic messages, saying, "next time, pay attention!" and was trying to drive Bubbles crazy might have been true. both mj and he believed in the mystic, even up to death, mj was telling people that if he didn't use the ideas he got, god would "give them to Prince".

OldFriends4Sale said:

thedance said:

the media was against Prince especially after the "We are the world" incident in the mid-80s, when he, Prince, (wisely) chose, right denied to not support that VERY crappy MJ/Lionel Ritchie-song..

the media made him look like a freak, trashed him, back then, and very ofter afterwards..

I would have some paranoia as well, wouldn't trust everyone - if this had happened to me..

Prince, in this way he was healthy imho..

But Prince was superstitious already...
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I don't think the media was against him.
I think there is something in life when a person fights to 'control' certain things, it insights a desire by other to want more from that person, causing them to tighten the control reigns.

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But Prince was superstitious already...

now this is scary imo


http://www.weathermodification.com/

from link: Aerial cloud seeding is the process of delivering a seeding agent by aircraft - either at the cloud base or cloud top. Top seeding allows for direct injection of the seeding agent into the supercooled cloud top. Base seeding is the release of the seeding agent in the updraft of a cloud base.

Mumio said:

cloveringold85 said:

I respect what you said, given you have first-hand knowledge/experience on the subject. What then is the contrails that are left behind that stay in the sky all day? Is that normal? There are days when I see airplanes flying back and forth all day long and leaving contrails in the sky. Why are they doing this? I am concerned that whatever it is, it can't be healthy, and this is why people are upset.

Clover, I posted a link to a site in message 33 of this thread that will give you all the information you could ever possibly want regarding chemtrails/contrails, etc. Please do go there and check it out, they know what they are talking about there and help others to understand.

[Edited 1/2/18 14:50pm]

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Thanks, I will check it out.

PeteSilas said:

cloveringold85 said:

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That is true. Look at Asia for instance; all sorts of problems there and it's so over-populated.

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I think people in general do not care about the world or what the future holds.

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If you really think about all the problems in the world, it's enough to make you paranoid. I think the media is nothing more than fear mongers. You see the news headlines and it's just depressing.

.

Like Prince said: As humans, were are not equipped to deal with all the problems of the world and what we see on CNN. It's just too much information overload.

ya, I happen to think he might have just given up on the world and killed himself. My take is a little different, and that is to just get away from as much of the poisons, both societal and environmental, and try to live a good life.

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You made me think of something else Prince said now. It was shortly before 4/21 and Prince had tweeted something about not believing in this world anymore, or something like that. I would have to do a search....Prince was always saying stuff, so who knows?

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I don't think he committed suicide though.

PeteSilas said:

he probably was, quincy jones said he gave some feathers and a tootsie roll to MJ who thought it was voodoo and it almost makes me wonder if the stories in the enquierer where he almost fired a limo driver because he wasn't getting his psychic messages, saying, "next time, pay attention!" and was trying to drive Bubbles crazy might have been true. both mj and he believed in the mystic, even up to death, mj was telling people that if he didn't use the ideas he got, god would "give them to Prince".

OldFriends4Sale said:

But Prince was superstitious already...
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I don't think the media was against him.
I think there is something in life when a person fights to 'control' certain things, it insights a desire by others to want more from that person, causing the person to tighten the control reigns even more

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But Prince was superstitious already...

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XxAxX said:

now this is scary imo


http://www.weathermodification.com/

from link: Aerial cloud seeding is the process of delivering a seeding agent by aircraft - either at the cloud base or cloud top. Top seeding allows for direct injection of the seeding agent into the supercooled cloud top. Base seeding is the release of the seeding agent in the updraft of a cloud base.

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Yes, I've heard of weather modification. Very interesting.

cloveringold85 said:

PeteSilas said:

ya, I happen to think he might have just given up on the world and killed himself. My take is a little different, and that is to just get away from as much of the poisons, both societal and environmental, and try to live a good life.

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You made me think of something else Prince said now. It was shortly before 4/21 and Prince had tweeted something about not believing in this world anymore, or something like that. I would have to do a search....Prince was always saying stuff, so who knows?

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I don't think he committed suicide though.

the statement you're referring to is from his final concert, i do think he committed suicide but I think he may have had a good reason, not just depressed, ill probably.

PeteSilas said:

cloveringold85 said:

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You made me think of something else Prince said now. It was shortly before 4/21 and Prince had tweeted something about not believing in this world anymore, or something like that. I would have to do a search....Prince was always saying stuff, so who knows?

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I don't think he committed suicide though.

the statement you're referring to is from his final concert, i do think he committed suicide but I think he may have had a good reason, not just depressed, ill probably.

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Yes, that was it, thanks!

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It's quite possible, but I don't think he would do that at PP and be found like that. I guess we will never know. I'm sorry he had pain and I don't think any of us would judge him because he wanted relief from that pain.

i don't judge him either, i don't know what was going on and I don't know anything about his circumstances, that's why i still strain to be patient for whatevers to come out.

cloveringold85 said:

PeteSilas said:

the statement you're referring to is from his final concert, i do think he committed suicide but I think he may have had a good reason, not just depressed, ill probably.

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Yes, that was it, thanks!

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It's quite possible, but I don't think he would do that at PP and be found like that. I guess we will never know. I'm sorry he had pain and I don't think any of us would judge him because he wanted relief from that pain.

ufoclub said:

purplefam99 said:

ufoclub said:

Chemtrails are not real. A few years ago at the university of Michigan I was with a scientist doing research on contrails (which is what you see) and had a good laugh about the belief in chemtrails as a gov’t conspiracy. If you think they are real, go an ask a REAL person who is a researcher/scientist that works with contrails or anything atmosphere related to find out what they have to say. Don’t trust any media (conspiracy media) and don’t rely on your intuition. People thought the earth was flat, and rain was water from the heavens, and human flight was impossible when left to their own common sense. I believe that Prince exhibited the very common tendency for people with a high aptitude for learning and intelligence (but that have not actually sought out true disciplined education) of latching onto various detailed theories and “windows” into perspectives of how things really are organized in our reality... without digging into the logic or credibility too far.

Maybe the Tuskegee syphillis case was enough for Prince. If you Haven’t been part of a conspiracy it is easier to believe non exist. If you have then you get every right in the book to be as paranoid as you like.

black and Indian paranoia is largely cultural, some of the stuff that's happened is ridiculous and stories get passed down. I still remember the stories of how white men went to the local mountains which used to be covered with caribou and machine gunned them down, or how some relatives were taken outright from their parents and adopted out, sans paperwork or legal work. You hear enough of those and you just ten to think white people are out to get you

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purplerabbithole said:

Newsflash people who worked for him stole music. Alan Leeds even said they contacted the FBI. Rumors that Duane stole stuff. Dave Hampton said in the Mike Dean podcast that when he came to work for Prince someone had purposely damaged recording equipment His ex-manager came out of the shadows the day after he died to steal. One of his lawyers stole a church he owned. He was not being paranoid he was being real.