Full disclosure: These are half-assed connections

I work with someone who grew up in Chaska, MN (right next door to Chanhassen) and played soccer in junior high with Big Chick's daughters. She said Prince would show up with Big Chick and watch their games.

I worked with someone else years ago whose family members were the beneficiaries of Prince's kind, generous nature. Her sister-in-law worked at PP and she had recently lost her father. Prince invited her and her mother to attend an awards show on the west coast and set them up at a spa out there before the show to get all done up fancy-like - hair, makeup, nails - plus a dress shop to get proper attire to wear.

ThatWhiteDude said:

sonshine said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

FullLipsDotNose said:

Dang, that's (at least) four of us here at the Org!!

However, being on the spectrum doesn't make you connected to other people there. Most of the people on the spectrum I know are the ones I met normally, that means through schools, hobbies, etc. And then we funnily outed ourselves to each other.

I also believe Prince was on the spectrum. And he apparently believed that, too, but never got an official diagnosis. It would have been nice to see him lurking incognito at WrongPlanet.org tho

I believe that too. I understand what you want to say with that. Maybe I put this wrong tho. I wanted to say, that I feel like Prince is among the people who would understand me, because he sometimes reminded me of myself. I kind of deal the same way with life like he did. That's what I meant with the "connection".

Are you on WrongPlanet.org? Didn't know about such a Forum.

Unfortunately not. I wanted to join, but ReCaptcha stopped me

You might call this half-assed connections, because you got the privilege to know somebody who's seen or met Prince in person. That's nice and good for you. But, connection doesn't have to be "meeting him or someone who met him in person." The "connections" other people have with him, are different and calling them half-assed just because we haven't met him in person, or someone who's seen him in person, is disrespectful.

A similar past/childhood can be a connection too. You don't have to meet someone who met him, or meet him in person........

sonshine said:

Full disclosure: These are half-assed connections

I work with someone who grew up in Chaska, MN (right next door to Chanhassen) and played soccer in junior high with Big Chick's daughters. She said Prince would show up with Big Chick and watch their games.

I worked with someone else years ago whose family members were the beneficiaries of Prince's kind, generous nature. Her sister-in-law worked at PP and she had recently lost her father. Prince invited her and her mother to attend an awards show on the west coast and set them up at a spa out there before the show to get all done up fancy-like - hair, makeup, nails - plus a dress shop to get proper attire to wear.

FullLipsDotNose said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

I believe that too. I understand what you want to say with that. Maybe I put this wrong tho. I wanted to say, that I feel like Prince is among the people who would understand me, because he sometimes reminded me of myself. I kind of deal the same way with life like he did. That's what I meant with the "connection".

Are you on WrongPlanet.org? Didn't know about such a Forum.

Unfortunately not. I wanted to join, but ReCaptcha stopped me

Okay

Seahorsie said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

I have aspergers, and I don't know if Prince was one 2. But some of his actions reminded me of me and other aspergers. Well, we're not all the same types, but Prince had some ways that I have 2. And I only feel connected to people who are just like me, because I feel too strange in this world. And Prince is one of them. MJ and Eminem are supposed to be apsergers 2 and I feel connected to them too.

Of course no one can say that they are aspergers you only find out when you test them, but somehow I automatically connect with them. And I have never felt connected to anyone who isn't an aspie. And I feel like, if I'd met them, they'd get me as I get them, you know what I mean. I understand the way Prince handled his adult life, because, I'd do the same if I could. Building my Paisly Park and avoid going out as much as I can.

Or when people said that he could come off as cold or not being able to show his feelings.

But it's not only that. I feel connected to Prince on so many levels. I'm only 5'2 too, when I found out that he wasn' tall I was happy, because I know that people showed him respect. And the love-hate relationship between him and his dad, I have the same with some of my family members. His music always helps me whem I'm having a hard time.

Tho I love all three of them, MJ, Eminem and Prince. I feel more connected to Prince, because, I don't want to look back too. I don't think you can go on with your life if you look back.

Thanks for sharing that from your heart...Prince probably would have liked that. He was all about sharing it all with us through the music.

ThatWhiteDude said:

I don't know what l'ange bleu gets paid to read this but it isn't enough.

Then I apologize for the assupmtion. And great story

sonshine said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

You might call this half-assed connections, because you got the privilege to know somebody who's seen or met Prince in person. That's nice and good for you. But, connection doesn't have to be "meeting him or someone who met him in person." The "connections" other people have with him, are different and calling them half-assed just because we haven't met him in person, or someone who's seen him in person, is disrespectful.

A similar past/childhood can be a connection too. You don't have to meet someone who met him, or meet him in person........

I meant no disrespect. It was a tongue in cheek remark. Living in MN i love the opportunities I've had for people i know to share their stories with me. I have one more: My ex-husband used to be a bouncer at Bunker's a long time bar/club/live music venue in Mpls. Prince would occasionally show up and jam with whoever was on stage. On one such night he was making his way down a dimly lit corridor towards some stairs in an off-limits area of the building. My ex thinking he was some uninvited groupie due to how "petite and pretty" he looked from behind tried to stop him with a "hey you!". Thankfully another employee immediately shushed him before he made a complete fool of himself.

Here's a few degrees for you. I'm mates with a guy who is mates with a musician called Steve Balbi here in Sydney. Steve Balbi is in a band called Electric Hippies and also Noiseworks, with a guy called Justin Stanley. Justin Stanley is married to Nikka Costa and worked with Prince on Hit 'N' Run Phase II

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I used to email back and forth with Rosie Gaines and John Blackwell. Does that count?

I was also the last person Prince retweeted.

And I posted this to him, which he retweeted (then erased later):

And then later that night (early the next AM) he posted:




And:




But I don't know if any of that counts.

I just looked up asperger symptoms. You don't need to elaborate on the symptoms you have or may have had in the past, but some of the symptoms listed Prince seems to have had and others he seems not to have had..

1.) hard time with eye contact (at times, he is reported as being that way, at other times, he is not reported as being that way.)

2.) difficult expressing emotions/cold at times--at times, definitely, at times (especially whilst engaging with audiences or in courtship) definitely not.

3.) not recognizing social cues or what others are feeling--he didnt seem to have that problem (he knew how to manipulate)

4.) not being able to control the volume of his voice...NOPE

5.) motor coordination problems--definitely not a problem for him

6.) facial expressions (sometimes his face is very still, other times it is extremely expressive.)

7.) rigid adherence to routine and focus--definitely had that in many ways, but he did change up bands and styles a lot so not entirely.

8.) monotone speaking voice--at times yes. But I think he adapted and imitated voices to improve his speaking voice and it worked quite well. I always thought he was just subtle in his speech patterns. But I guess that is something he might have worked on to improve.

He might be pretty low on the spectrum but I kind of think he had a combination of abandonment issues, avoidance personality syndrome and a bit of compensory (as in compensating) narcissism (not the same thing as unconditional self-love, its more like self-involvement resulting from obsessively perfecting ones abilities/image to compensate for perceived short-comings.--pun partly intended)

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ThatWhiteDude said:

FullLipsDotNose said:

Dang, that's (at least) four of us here at the Org!!

However, being on the spectrum doesn't make you connected to other people there. Most of the people on the spectrum I know are the ones I met normally, that means through schools, hobbies, etc. And then we funnily outed ourselves to each other.

I also believe Prince was on the spectrum. And he apparently believed that, too, but never got an official diagnosis. It would have been nice to see him lurking incognito at WrongPlanet.org tho

I believe that too. I understand what you want to say with that. Maybe I put this wrong tho. I wanted to say, that I feel like Prince is among the people who would understand me, because he sometimes reminded me of myself. I kind of deal the same way with life like he did. That's what I meant with the "connection".

Are you on WrongPlanet.org? Didn't know about such a Forum.

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purplerabbithole said:

I just looked up asperger symptoms. You don't need to elaborate on the symptoms you have or may have had in the past, but some of the symptoms listed Prince seems to have had and others he seems not to have had..

1.) hard time with eye contact (at times, he is reported as being that way, at other times, he is not reported as being that way.)

2.) difficult expressing emotions/cold at times--at times, definitely, at times (especially whilst engaging with audiences or in courtship) definitely not.

3.) not recognizing social cues or what others are feeling--he didnt seem to have that problem (he knew how to manipulate)

4.) not being able to control the volume of his voice...NOPE

5.) motor coordination problems--definitely not a problem for him

6.) facial expressions (sometimes his face is very still, other times it is extremely expressive.)

7.) rigid adherence to routine and focus--definitely had that in many ways, but he did change up bands and styles a lot so not entirely.

8.) monotone speaking voice--at times yes. But I think he adapted and imitated voices to improve his speaking voice and it worked quite well. I always thought he was just subtle in his speech patterns. But I guess that is something he might have worked on to improve.

He might be pretty low on the spectrum but I kind of think he had a combination of abandonment issues, avoidance personality syndrome and a bit of compensory (as in compensating) narcissism (not the same thing as unconditional self-love, its more like self-involvement resulting from obsessively perfecting ones abilities/image to compensate for perceived short-comings.--pun partly intended)

.

ThatWhiteDude said:

I believe that too. I understand what you want to say with that. Maybe I put this wrong tho. I wanted to say, that I feel like Prince is among the people who would understand me, because he sometimes reminded me of myself. I kind of deal the same way with life like he did. That's what I meant with the "connection".

Are you on WrongPlanet.org? Didn't know about such a Forum.

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[Edited 12/27/17 21:11pm]

[Edited 12/27/17 21:14pm]

1) Many people on the spectrum eventually do things allistic people normally do because it's a way to survive in an allistic environment. It's very enervating for autistic people though.

2) See 1.

3) Being able tomanipulate doesn't mean you are well-read in social cues.

4) Yeah, but you don't need to fufil all the symptoms to be diagnosed.

5) See 4.

8) See 1.

I see your point on most of these butI cant see how someone who knows how to manipulate and seduce others would not be able recognize social cues, little hints from behavior etc that indicate what someone else is feeling.

ALso, I never thought Prince sounded monotone exactly just subtle. Monotone to me sounds like comedian Steven Wright.

purplerabbithole said:

I just looked up asperger symptoms. You don't need to elaborate on the symptoms you have or may have had in the past, but some of the symptoms listed Prince seems to have had and others he seems not to have had..

1.) hard time with eye contact (at times, he is reported as being that way, at other times, he is not reported as being that way.)

2.) difficult expressing emotions/cold at times--at times, definitely, at times (especially whilst engaging with audiences or in courtship) definitely not.

3.) not recognizing social cues or what others are feeling--he didnt seem to have that problem (he knew how to manipulate)

4.) not being able to control the volume of his voice...NOPE

5.) motor coordination problems--definitely not a problem for him

6.) facial expressions (sometimes his face is very still, other times it is extremely expressive.)

7.) rigid adherence to routine and focus--definitely had that in many ways, but he did change up bands and styles a lot so not entirely.

8.) monotone speaking voice--at times yes. But I think he adapted and imitated voices to improve his speaking voice and it worked quite well. I always thought he was just subtle in his speech patterns. But I guess that is something he might have worked on to improve.

He might be pretty low on the spectrum but I kind of think he had a combination of abandonment issues, avoidance personality syndrome and a bit of compensory (as in compensating) narcissism (not the same thing as unconditional self-love, its more like self-involvement resulting from obsessively perfecting ones abilities/image to compensate for perceived short-comings.--pun partly intended)

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[Edited 12/27/17 21:09pm]

[Edited 12/27/17 21:11pm]

[Edited 12/27/17 21:14pm]

1) Many people on the spectrum eventually do things allistic people normally do because it's a way to survive in an allistic environment. It's very enervating for autistic people though.

2) See 1.

3) Being able tomanipulate doesn't mean you are well-read in social cues.

4) Yeah, but you don't need to fufil all the symptoms to be diagnosed.

5) See 4.

8) See 1.

purplerabbithole said:

I see your point on most of these butI cant see how someone who knows how to manipulate and seduce others would not be able recognize social cues, little hints from behavior etc that indicate what someone else is feeling.

ALso, I never thought Prince sounded monotone exactly just subtle. Monotone to me sounds like comedian Steven Wright.

1) Many people on the spectrum eventually do things allistic people normally do because it's a way to survive in an allistic environment. It's very enervating for autistic people though.

2) See 1.

3) Being able tomanipulate doesn't mean you are well-read in social cues.

4) Yeah, but you don't need to fufil all the symptoms to be diagnosed.

5) See 4.

8) See 1.

My dog is very manipulative, but I doubt she understands social cues

Prince's manipulations are a bit more complex than a dog's. Dogs don't really manipulate. They give you what you want for what they want.

FullLipsDotNose said:

purplerabbithole said:

I see your point on most of these butI cant see how someone who knows how to manipulate and seduce others would not be able recognize social cues, little hints from behavior etc that indicate what someone else is feeling.

ALso, I never thought Prince sounded monotone exactly just subtle. Monotone to me sounds like comedian Steven Wright.

My dog is very manipulative, but I doubt she understands social cues

we're both Gemini, his birthday is June 7th mine is June 5th

he was always breaking out of societal boxes, and I was doing that at an early age

FullLipsDotNose said:

purplerabbithole said:

I just looked up asperger symptoms. You don't need to elaborate on the symptoms you have or may have had in the past, but some of the symptoms listed Prince seems to have had and others he seems not to have had..

1.) hard time with eye contact (at times, he is reported as being that way, at other times, he is not reported as being that way.)

2.) difficult expressing emotions/cold at times--at times, definitely, at times (especially whilst engaging with audiences or in courtship) definitely not.

3.) not recognizing social cues or what others are feeling--he didnt seem to have that problem (he knew how to manipulate)

4.) not being able to control the volume of his voice...NOPE

5.) motor coordination problems--definitely not a problem for him

6.) facial expressions (sometimes his face is very still, other times it is extremely expressive.)

7.) rigid adherence to routine and focus--definitely had that in many ways, but he did change up bands and styles a lot so not entirely.

8.) monotone speaking voice--at times yes. But I think he adapted and imitated voices to improve his speaking voice and it worked quite well. I always thought he was just subtle in his speech patterns. But I guess that is something he might have worked on to improve.

He might be pretty low on the spectrum but I kind of think he had a combination of abandonment issues, avoidance personality syndrome and a bit of compensory (as in compensating) narcissism (not the same thing as unconditional self-love, its more like self-involvement resulting from obsessively perfecting ones abilities/image to compensate for perceived short-comings.--pun partly intended)

.

[Edited 12/27/17 21:09pm]

[Edited 12/27/17 21:11pm]

[Edited 12/27/17 21:14pm]

1) Many people on the spectrum eventually do things allistic people normally do because it's a way to survive in an allistic environment. It's very enervating for autistic people though.

2) See 1.

3) Being able tomanipulate doesn't mean you are well-read in social cues.

4) Yeah, but you don't need to fufil all the symptoms to be diagnosed.

5) See 4.

8) See 1.

Exactly (the bolded)

i got vertigo from the same source he did back in 1999/2000

I ate a tin of Princes Tuna today. I know, freaky.

benni said:

I used to email back and forth with Rosie Gaines and John Blackwell. Does that count?

I was also the last person Prince retweeted.

And I posted this to him, which he retweeted (then erased later):

And then later that night (early the next AM) he posted:




And:




But I don't know if any of that counts.

Well yeah! Of course it does...thanks for sharing that with everybody. It touches me as something you cherish very much. (Love All Enemies...and all Org ers)

1) The Twinz are friends of family friends..never met them but have heard a lot of great stories

2) Nai Palm from Hiatus Keyote is my BFFs niece..Have known Nai since she was 12..MEGAWHATT TALENT..Prince loved her Individuality and unique vocal style

When their debut album was nominated for a Grammy

They were on the bones of their arses financially...

Someone offered them 1000 USD to do a cover of 17 Days inspiring them to use Kickstarter to fund their trip

They got there.....

Prince snuck in to one of their gigs in 2015 in Minneapolis

he sat on the side of the stage for all of it...

He wanted the Band to come to Paisley...

Arrangements were underway

and then

3) One of my friends hooked up with Prince in Sydney

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Lovejunky said:

1) The Twinz are friends of family friends..never met them but have heard a lot of great stories

2) Nai Palm from Hiatus Keyote is my BFFs niece..Have known Nai since she was 12..MEGAWHATT TALENT..Prince loved her Individuality and unique vocal style

When their debut album was nominated for a Grammy

They were on the bones of their arses financially...

Someone offered them 1000 USD to do a cover of 17 Days inspiring them to use Kickstarter to fund their trip

They got there.....

Prince snuck in to one of their gigs in 2015 in Minneapolis

he sat on the side of the stage for all of it...

He wanted the Band to come to Paisley...

Arrangements were underway

and then

3) One of my friends hooked up with Prince in Sydney

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Whew! You are one connected person. The cosmos has smiled on you. All I got is woodwork, LOL

He salvaged me from the cutting room floor.
Well, to be honest, me and 14.000 wonderful parisians.

For all the unusable grainy shooting, there's this single "turn the lights on" panoramic shot at the end of "It's Gonna Be A Beautiful Night" in SOTT (the movie).

So my personal self-delusion comes from a brief vision of Prince editing the movie and going: "Get me the Paris reel. The one with the whole arena jumping up and down. Cut right after the goofy kid dancing his ass off enters the frame".

But the real connection is my parents divorce, and the tears I shed the first time I saw "Purple Rain" on the big screen. An only child chasing his dreams to overcome the pain was a concept I truly felt connected to.

namecheck lol

FullLipsDotNose said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

I have aspergers, and I don't know if Prince was one 2. But some of his actions reminded me of me and other aspergers. Well, we're not all the same types, but Prince had some ways that I have 2. And I only feel connected to people who are just like me, because I feel too strange in this world. And Prince is one of them. MJ and Eminem are supposed to be apsergers 2 and I feel connected to them too.

Of course no one can say that they are aspergers you only find out when you test them, but somehow I automatically connect with them. And I have never felt connected to anyone who isn't an aspie. And I feel like, if I'd met them, they'd get me as I get them, you know what I mean. I understand the way Prince handled his adult life, because, I'd do the same if I could. Building my Paisly Park and avoid going out as much as I can.

Or when people said that he could come off as cold or not being able to show his feelings.

But it's not only that. I feel connected to Prince on so many levels. I'm only 5'2 too, when I found out that he wasn' tall I was happy, because I know that people showed him respect. And the love-hate relationship between him and his dad, I have the same with some of my family members. His music always helps me whem I'm having a hard time.

Tho I love all three of them, MJ, Eminem and Prince. I feel more connected to Prince, because, I don't want to look back too. I don't think you can go on with your life if you look back.

Dang, that's (at least) four of us here at the Org!!

However, being on the spectrum doesn't make you connected to other people there. Most of the people on the spectrum I know are the ones I met normally, that means through schools, hobbies, etc. And then we funnily outed ourselves to each other.

I also believe Prince was on the spectrum. And he apparently believed that, too, but never got an official diagnosis. It would have been nice to see him lurking incognito at WrongPlanet.org tho

I dont know much about Autism...but this Article is interesting,

and rings true...