Let us have youtube videos. If most P fans are like me, youtube clips will not compete with any official releases.

We lost our musical hero and need to see as much as we can.

radici27 said:

Let us have youtube videos. If most P fans are like me, youtube clips will not compete with any official releases.

We lost our musical hero and need to see as much as we can.

How do feel about he money he made off it. It was not okay to make money off of Prince's music when he was alive and it is not okay now.

"They are looking to have the videos removed for good and are seeking any profits he might have made from the ads on the video."

laurarichardson said:

radici27 said:

Let us have youtube videos. If most P fans are like me, youtube clips will not compete with any official releases.

We lost our musical hero and need to see as much as we can.

How do feel about he money he made off it. It was not okay to make money off of Prince's music when he was alive and it is not okay now.

"They are looking to have the videos removed for good and are seeking any profits he might have made from the ads on the video."

So I should assume you've never watched an unofficial Prince clip on youtube?

How much longer is this POS judge going to let these greedy bastid lawyers milk this estate? It's time for the fam to put a helluva lot of pressure on these mf's to settle this damn case before these jackals suck every dime out of it and they are left broke as hell.


I seldom comment on OPP, but damn!

babynoz said:

How much longer is this POS judge going to let these greedy bastid lawyers milk this estate? It's time for the fam to put a helluva lot of pressure on these mf's to settle this damn case before these jackals suck every dime out of it and they are left broke as hell.


I seldom comment on OPP, but damn!

I was just thinking the same thing right before I read your response! Wondering how long it will take the blood suckers to run through millions of dollars...

rogifan said:

Just saw this on Twitter. Should the Estate really be wasting their time young after stuff like this? https://twitter.com/purpl...9411431425

How much time do you think it takes to file these complaints? Comerica is being watched by the court they are doing what the court order them to do. Trust if they do not do anything at SNJ will be the first to complain in fact they were complaining in the most recent court papers that Comercia was not doing enough about copyright infringement.

purplethunder3121 said:

babynoz said:

How much longer is this POS judge going to let these greedy bastid lawyers milk this estate? It's time for the fam to put a helluva lot of pressure on these mf's to settle this damn case before these jackals suck every dime out of it and they are left broke as hell.


I seldom comment on OPP, but damn!

I was just thinking the same thing right before I read your response! Wondering how long it will take the blood suckers to run through millions of dollars...

What millions? Comerica is charging a flat fee for their services. Think about how much estate money the lawyers for SNJ are getting to get stopping the estate from making money with ridculous objections to five deals that are on the table.

XNY said:

laurarichardson said:

rogifan said:

I’m curious, if someone posts a video on YouTube does Google automatically place ads in the video and does the video poster get a cut of the ad revenue?

No, you have to choose to monetize the video when u upload it (at least that's what a Youtuber explained on a recent video), and when u do u must certyify that all the content is your property or declare what on it is someone else's property so they can have their share. Theorically you then get more or less 1 buck for each 1000 views with an ad (ie Adblock users don't contribute).

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rogifan said:

laurarichardson said:

purplethunder3121 said:

I was just thinking the same thing right before I read your response! Wondering how long it will take the blood suckers to run through millions of dollars...

What millions? Comerica is charging a flat fee for their services. Think about how much estate money the lawyers for SNJ are getting to get stopping the estate from making money with ridculous objections to five deals that are on the table.

Your problem is that you keep trying to take sides when the rest of us are speaking of all of the lawyers collectively, not any one in particular.

I'm not in the will so there is no reason for me to be too invested in the case. I just don't think there is any justification for the judge allowing any of the parties on either side to drag this case out any longer.

He wouldn't be the first judge to throw some attorneys a bone for a future favor such as campaign contributions or a good job when they leave the bench. This judge aint shit.

babynoz said:

laurarichardson said:

rogifan said:

laurarichardson said:

Did you miss that all of the footage they have as been cataloged and that deals are on the table. No one is going to buy something if they can get it for free. So the free as to go and no one would should be making money off of his music. He was not okay with this when he was alive and well. Unless copyright laws have changed why would this have changed now that he gone.

Ok stop being dense. The clip from Twitter that I posted was only 2 minutes long. Most of the stuff I’ve downloaded from YouTube are short or partial live clips that come from crappy cell phone cameras. This is nothing like someone ripping a CD and uploading it. The sound and video quality is nothing like what an official release would be. The idea that people won’t buy official estate releases because of this stuff on YouTube is laughable. But seeing clips like this might get more people interested in Prince and they show what an incredible live performer he was. And just to be clear for those that have reading difficulties: I’m specifically talking about live performance clips NOT studio recordings.

The only person who is dense is you. Since YOUTUBE and file sharing has exsisted the sales of music have declined. There have been countless articles about this in the media going back over a decade.

Not one piece of evidence that free material drive actual sales.

Try to understand copyright laws at the basic level. No one is allowed to use material without permission or payment. It does not matter if it is 1 sec or 2 hours.

There are entire Prince concerts on line that go on for two hours. Why would anyone pay for this material when they can download it for free? Because they just want to give money away.

At this point anyone who does not know that he was a great live performer is not interested and giving away free content will not change that.

You seem to think that because you choose to ingnore facts and laws that those facts and laws are irrelevant but they are not. Courts that oversee estates do not just ignore things because some fans are going to be upset. If you think like this who is being dense.

Next you will be okay with the idiotic antics of SNJ.

laurarichardson said:

babynoz said:

Your problem is that you keep trying to take sides when the rest of us are speaking of all of the lawyers collectively, not any one in particular.

I'm not in the will so there is no reason for me to be too invested in the case. I just don't think there is any justification for the judge allowing any of the parties on either side to drag this case out any longer.

He wouldn't be the first judge to throw some attorneys a bone for a future favor such as campaign contributions or a good job when they leave the bench. This judge aint shit.

I am taking sides I am telling you what facts are. Remember it is the sibs who all choose to have their own individual attorneys. It is some if the sibs who keep going back to court bitching and complaining thus costing the estate more money. What in God’s green earth do you think Judge is actually doing that you feel is bias?

Again, I don't care who is causing the delays because I'm not on anybody's side. No one is saying that the sibs don't share the blame for dragging this out, so calling them out repeatedly doesnt hurt my feelings. That's another problem. You are getting too far away from the topic and always trying to steer it toward what you want to talk about.

The only thing that should still be pending is the tidal dispute. All other issues should have been settled months ago. In this situation the only people who get over are the lawyers including the ones going after random youtubers. Even the assclown web sheriff had a method that he followed for dealing with people posting unauthorized content.

The more time this incompetent judge allows to be wasted with random fukery the less there will be for the heirs, the operation of PP and the ability for them to oversee Prince's legacy. The danger is and has always been that they will ultimately lose control of everything due to having no choice but to sell out.

Maybe that was the intention of drawing this bs out all along. You should know by now that everybody involved has their own agenda.

laurarichardson said:

I wonder if they are simply going after, maybe not everyone, but certain types of infringements because it seems some shady stuff has already been pulled by folks, and they got caught because this company seems to be diligent and cover a lot of bases. Maybe this instance may not be a big deal in and of itself but there is too much trolling and other crap going on behind the scenes to give anyone an inch, you know what they say about giving someone an inch, they'll take a mile.

cathys said:

laurarichardson said:

And any sensible copyright holder will only enforce their rights if they have something to gain by doing so, i.e. if the infringement is causing them to lose money or reputation.

It has nothing to do with sensible since none can tell the copyright holder what is sensible for them.

Prince had things taken down all the time 1 min or 20 min. He even discussed covers and how people could do them without permission but thought they should have the decency to ask first.

You can bet your botton dollar that Disney corporation is not going to let you or anyone else stream one minute of any of their properties in fact Disney is setting up their own streaming network.

It should be no different for music. If the copyright holder does not want it to happen that is their choice it does not have to be sensible for you the non-owner.

laurarichardson said:

cathys said:

laurarichardson said:

And any sensible copyright holder will only enforce their rights if they have something to gain by doing so, i.e. if the infringement is causing them to lose money or reputation.

It has nothing to do with sensible since none can tell the copyright holder what is sensible for them.

Prince had things taken down all the time 1 min or 20 min. He even discussed covers and how people could do them without permission but thought they should have the decency to ask first.

You can bet your botton dollar that Disney corporation is not going to let you or anyone else stream one minute of any of their properties in fact Disney is setting up their own streaming network.

It should be no different for music. If the copyright holder does not want it to happen that is their choice it does not have to be sensible for you the non-owner.

You are wrong about how a judge would view it.

cathys said:

rogifan said:

cathys said: Yes, yes yes. Thank you.

No, No, No You cannot tell people what to do with their property. It is there decision as to how and when it can used. We saw this with Prince and Web Sheriff a million times.

isnt his estate essentially wasting money pursuing these type of law suits???

laurarichardson said: