Adorecream said:

CherryMoon57 said:

Where in the Bible is this 'purgatory' mentioned?

It is where you wait while your soul is judged. I don't care what any of you think. I hate drugs, Prince was a drug user ad that is a sin. It does not matter as he was not a Catholic, but a Jehovahs Witness a heretic sect/cult according to most mainstream churches.

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Don't shoot me I am the messenger, with reincarnation we all pay our dues, with our sould being reborn in various forms of life from Plant to Human and everything in between.

[Snip bait - luv4u]

The payment for our sins is death, there is no hell below us waiting for us, nor there is a hevan above us.

Not according to the New Testament...

214 said:

PeteSilas said:

Vannormal said:

OH COME ON Y'ALL !!!

Are you people on acid or crack ??

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Dead and that's the end.

Fin.

End.

Done.

Over and out.

Prince is right now just dust in some vase.

Live with it.

yes we know, a few people with your lovely sentiments have already told us that, thanks.

I dont understand why people who have non religious beliefs are replying to a post that says "According to your religion".

Um that means your ass don't need to comment. Need not apply. Need no input. :smh:

Obviously this post does not apply to those people but they HAVE to be heard.

paisleypark4 said:

PeteSilas said:

yes we know, a few people with your lovely sentiments have already told us that, thanks.

I dont understand why people who have non religious beliefs are replying to a post that says "According to your religion".

Um that means your ass don't need to comment. Need not apply. Need no input. :smh:

Obviously this post does not apply to those people but they HAVE to be heard.

Yup, makes 'em feel good to look down on all the "superstitious" folks who believe there is more to life than what we see.

PeteSilas said:

paisleypark4 said:

I dont understand why people who have non religious beliefs are replying to a post that says "According to your religion".

Um that means your ass don't need to comment. Need not apply. Need no input. :smh:

Obviously this post does not apply to those people but they HAVE to be heard.

Yup, makes 'em feel good to look down on all the "superstitious" folks who believe there is more to life than what we see.

Well, I've heard enough people say to me, egreriously, that aethism is a type of religion

paisleypark4 said:

PeteSilas said:

yes we know, a few people with your lovely sentiments have already told us that, thanks.

I dont understand why people who have non religious beliefs are replying to a post that says "According to your religion".

Um that means your ass don't need to comment. Need not apply. Need no input. :smh:

Obviously this post does not apply to those people but they HAVE to be heard.

Its good they are posting maybe one of them will come to the light... Get Saved by Jesus.

John 14:6

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

leecaldon said:

PeteSilas said:

Yup, makes 'em feel good to look down on all the "superstitious" folks who believe there is more to life than what we see.

Well, I've heard enough people say to me, egreriously, that aethism is a type of religion

Yes, this, plus "nothing, he's just dead" is as valid a response as "he's in Valhöll, quaffing and fighting" or whatever.

Body is Dead, But Soul is Somewhere....

PeteSilas said:

paisleypark4 said:

I dont understand why people who have non religious beliefs are replying to a post that says "According to your religion".

Um that means your ass don't need to comment. Need not apply. Need no input. :smh:

Obviously this post does not apply to those people but they HAVE to be heard.

Yup, makes 'em feel good to look down on all the "superstitious" folks who believe there is more to life than what we see.

Indeed.

Lianachan said:

Any you all remember Thunder by P...

"Thunder, all through the night
Promise to see Jesus in the morning light
Take my hand, it'll be alright
C'mon save your soul tonight"

Hopefully his beautiful soul is out there somewhere watching over his fans

i always believe that when someone dies their soul leaves their body in peace

214 said:

soladeo1 said:

As one who professed a very real faith in Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour Prince is now united in Spirit with God and will eventually be ressurected in bodily form when the New Earth is created.

This exactly.

The believer "dies in Christ" and according to the promise, you will be ressurected to be with him in paradise when he comes again. On that day when he comes again, every knee will bow, and every tongue will confess him.

I'd like to believe that Prince is in Heaven now and that I will see him again after I leave this world myself. I plan to search for him when I hopefully get to Heaven, Prince should be easy to find though: I just walk in the direction where the best music is coming from. Anyway, amongst other things that's good enough a reason for me to live a good life, to be a good man so that my chances increase to get to the same place where Prince is.

BombFunk said:

I'd like to believe that Prince is in Heaven now and that I will see him again after I leave this world myself. I plan to search for him when I hopefully get to Heaven, Prince should be easy to find though: I just walk in the direction where the best music is coming from. Anyway, amongst other things that's good enough a reason for me to live a good life, to be a good man so that my chances increase to get to the same place where Prince is.

That was totally beautiful...

I have similar feelings...particularly inspired to improve myself, become a better person

If the choices are as clear cut as heaven and hell

Hes not in Hell...he rarely spoke of it...

I suppose it would depend on the depths of his sins in life and the circumstances of his demise, he could still well be tied here with unfinished business. As a former Jedi I would have once believed he is one with the Force and appearing to his apprentice, but while I'm a born again Satanist I'm still ambivalent to the idea of finality

[Edited 12/3/17 3:36am]

Lovejunky said:

CherryMoon57 said:

Salvation has nothing to do with 'how good' we are or even how much we do,

It is neither a competition nor are we saved by our own hands.

It is the blood of Christ that saves us and I think Prince knew that.

As for the 'purgatory', I don't think it is in the Bible, so based on scriptures alone,

There is no second chance to redeem ourselves once we are on the other side...

What does that actually even MEAN ??????????????

Because Christ died a blooody death we are now granted a free pass ?

So any old person can do whatever he wants in this life be a complete prick and arshole

so long as he Believes in Jesus, he s all good?

Nope sorry....someone has grossly misunderstood the mission of The Christ

No, it does not. In the early days before Christ, you had to be constantly making sacrifices to atone for sin, and follow the Laws of the Old Testament. God allowed the death of his son to be the propitiation for all sins, nailing the old laws "to the cross."

You cannot "earn" your way to heaven, you must believe in Christ, and turn away from the path you followed before. In the Bible, you are to be baptised not to wash away your sin (as Christ already did that by dying for all who believe), but as a public testament to others as to your belief. You cannot work your way into heaven, but true faith without good works is dead. In other words, the true believer will love all others so much that you want to serve others and help them. Also, good works without faith will not help at all to insure you a place in the Book of Life.

When you do sin, and all people on earth do, you pray to be forgiven, and ask him to help you not continue in that sin. Hope this helps....if you are unsure the truthfulness of this, search the scriptures to see.....

Lovejunky said:

CherryMoon57 said:

Salvation has nothing to do with 'how good' we are or even how much we do,

It is neither a competition nor are we saved by our own hands.

It is the blood of Christ that saves us and I think Prince knew that.

As for the 'purgatory', I don't think it is in the Bible, so based on scriptures alone,

There is no second chance to redeem ourselves once we are on the other side...

What does that actually even MEAN ??????????????

Because Christ died a blooody death we are now granted a free pass ?

So any old person can do whatever he wants in this life be a complete prick and arshole

so long as he Believes in Jesus, he s all good?

Nope sorry....someone has grossly misunderstood the mission of The Christ

No, it does not. In the early days before Christ, you had to be constantly making sacrifices to atone for sin, and follow the Laws of the Old Testament. God allowed the death of his son to be the propitiation for all sins, nailing the old laws "to the cross."

You cannot "earn" your way to heaven, you must believe in Christ, and turn away from the path you followed before. In the Bible, you are to be baptised not to wash away your sin (as Christ already did that by dying for all who believe), but as a public testament to others as to your belief. You cannot work your way into heaven, but true faith without good works is dead. In other words, the true believer will love all others so much that you want to serve others and help them. Also, good works without faith will not help at all to insure you a place in the Book of Life.

When you do sin, and all people on earth do, you pray to be forgiven, and ask him to help you not continue in that sin. Hope this helps....if you are unsure the truthfulness of this, search the scriptures to see.....

Seahorsie said:

Lovejunky said:

What does that actually even MEAN ??????????????

Because Christ died a blooody death we are now granted a free pass ?

So any old person can do whatever he wants in this life be a complete prick and arshole

so long as he Believes in Jesus, he s all good?

Nope sorry....someone has grossly misunderstood the mission of The Christ

No, it does not. In the early days before Christ, you had to be constantly making sacrifices to atone for sin, and follow the Laws of the Old Testament. God allowed the death of his son to be the propitiation for all sins, nailing the old laws "to the cross."

You cannot "earn" your way to heaven, you must believe in Christ, and turn away from the path you followed before. In the Bible, you are to be baptised not to wash away your sin (as Christ already did that by dying for all who believe), but as a public testament to others as to your belief. You cannot work your way into heaven, but true faith without good works is dead. In other words, the true believer will love all others so much that you want to serve others and help them. Also, good works without faith will not help at all to insure you a place in the Book of Life.

When you do sin, and all people on earth do, you pray to be forgiven, and ask him to help you not continue in that sin. Hope this helps....if you are unsure the truthfulness of this, search the scriptures to see.....

Excellent

Prince was 'shoo in'

Seahorsie said:

Lovejunky said:

What does that actually even MEAN ??????????????

Because Christ died a blooody death we are now granted a free pass ?

So any old person can do whatever he wants in this life be a complete prick and arshole

so long as he Believes in Jesus, he s all good?

Nope sorry....someone has grossly misunderstood the mission of The Christ

No, it does not. In the early days before Christ, you had to be constantly making sacrifices to atone for sin, and follow the Laws of the Old Testament. God allowed the death of his son to be the propitiation for all sins, nailing the old laws "to the cross."

You cannot "earn" your way to heaven, you must believe in Christ, and turn away from the path you followed before. In the Bible, you are to be baptised not to wash away your sin (as Christ already did that by dying for all who believe), but as a public testament to others as to your belief. You cannot work your way into heaven, but true faith without good works is dead. In other words, the true believer will love all others so much that you want to serve others and help them. Also, good works without faith will not help at all to insure you a place in the Book of Life.

When you do sin, and all people on earth do, you pray to be forgiven, and ask him to help you not continue in that sin. Hope this helps....if you are unsure the truthfulness of this, search the scriptures to see.....

Excellent

Prince was 'shoo in'

Prince is now just a pile of ashes, and that's where he is.

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If Prince is somewhere - like you believers would like to believe - what clothes make up and high heels is he wearing ? Can he still have sex ? he's one hell of a horny Sexy Motherfucker, you know that.

Since some of you state that he 'lives on' in some 'heaven'... how does he live ther ? eternal and forever without sex and a guitar ? Too funny.

[Edited 12/4/17 6:48am]

Vannormal said:

Our skinny motherfucker with the so beloved high voice is now a very small pile of grey ashes in a jar, propably on his sisters chimney or somwhere like that. That's the truth. No more no less. Period.

Wellllll, you can't say that conclusively. But since there's no evidence to the contrary, you can say it's most likely.

Vannormal said:

Prince is now just a pile of ashes, and that's where he is.

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If Prince is somewhere - like you believers would like to believe - what clothes make up and high heels is he wearing ? Can he still have sex ? he's one hell of a horny Sexy Motherfucker, you know that.

Since some of you state that he 'lives on' in some 'heaven'... how does he live ther ? eternal and forever without sex and a guitar ? Too funny.

[Edited 12/4/17 6:48am]

Sex and guitar is of this Earth... The Bible describes Heaven as better than anything on this Earth

What is this? Or What song is this?

Astasheiks said:

What is this? Or What song is this?

Deliverance (unofficial release)

NorthC said:

Lianachan said:

Yes, this, plus "nothing, he's just dead" is as valid a response as "he's in Valhöll, quaffing and fighting" or whatever.

"You can't fight gospel music. You can't fight a Beethoven mass or the height of cathedral ceilings. There's no song that says, Come on, be an atheïst. You can't win." Randy Newman

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Well... I'll grant you there are not a lot of atheist songs, but there is at least one great example (no, not "imagine")

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Superstition.

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"When you believe in things that you don't understand, then you'll suffer. Superstition ain't the way"

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Douglas Adams stated it succinctly:

“Anything that happens, happens.
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Anything that, in happening, causes something else to happen, causes something else to happen.
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Anything that, in happening, causes itself to happen again, happens again.
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It doesn’t necessarily do it in chronological order, though.”

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It is a duty to point out the delusion that religion is. The problems it creates and the pure evil that happens because of it. We need to always stand up and protest when people are made to be "under god". We must correct people whenever they say "christian child" or "muslim child". They are children of religious parents (and get indoctrinated). No child has ever said "I prefer this religion, I think it is the truth" about a religion other than their parents'. Plenty of children have said "this religion stuff doesn't make sense", with different levels of disapproval following.

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It is just fine that you believe that dogma can give you all the answers and that the totality of knowledge is contained in a book. But it is not fine if you push it on others. And since religionistas take that liberty, I will take the liberty of pointing out their delusion and unproven certainty. There is so much pointing towards all religions being wrong and nothing that proves religion. (using regular falsification)

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The nice thing about being an atheist is that I am open to change my mind if new evidence comes to light. Religionistas always get angry and try to reason things away that do not follow their chosen worldview.

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So yes, it is fine, even necessary for an atheist to post in this thread. Prince died, and that was the end. We have hours and hours of product that his spirit made. He made the world better, as far as I'm concerned, on the whole. I will carry him with me for the rest of my life. But he will never ever re-appear on this world and it is insulting to suggest it, especially since many people are still hurting from his death and it is very tempting to give in to the poisonous certainty that religions give.

mediumdry said:

NorthC said:

Lianachan said: "You can't fight gospel music. You can't fight a Beethoven mass or the height of cathedral ceilings. There's no song that says, Come on, be an atheïst. You can't win." Randy Newman

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Well... I'll grant you there are not a lot of atheist songs, but there is at least one great example (no, not "imagine")

.

Superstition.

.

"When you believe in things that you don't understand, then you'll suffer. Superstition ain't the way"

.

Douglas Adams stated it succinctly:

“Anything that happens, happens.
.
Anything that, in happening, causes something else to happen, causes something else to happen.
.
Anything that, in happening, causes itself to happen again, happens again.
.
It doesn’t necessarily do it in chronological order, though.”

.

It is a duty to point out the delusion that religion is. The problems it creates and the pure evil that happens because of it. We need to always stand up and protest when people are made to be "under god". We must correct people whenever they say "christian child" or "muslim child". They are children of religious parents (and get indoctrinated). No child has ever said "I prefer this religion, I think it is the truth" about a religion other than their parents'. Plenty of children have said "this religion stuff doesn't make sense", with different levels of disapproval following.

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It is just fine that you believe that dogma can give you all the answers and that the totality of knowledge is contained in a book. But it is not fine if you push it on others. And since religionistas take that liberty, I will take the liberty of pointing out their delusion and unproven certainty. There is so much pointing towards all religions being wrong and nothing that proves religion. (using regular falsification)

.

The nice thing about being an atheist is that I am open to change my mind if new evidence comes to light. Religionistas always get angry and try to reason things away that do not follow their chosen worldview.

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So yes, it is fine, even necessary for an atheist to post in this thread. Prince died, and that was the end. We have hours and hours of product that his spirit made. He made the world better, as far as I'm concerned, on the whole. I will carry him with me for the rest of my life. But he will never ever re-appear on this world and it is insulting to suggest it, especially since many people are still hurting from his death and it is very tempting to give in to the poisonous certainty that religions give.

What's poisonous about that?

A belief in a God that created the whole (infinite) universe in all its marvellous scientific complexities is far more flexible than one that doesn't even allow that possibility. Not all in life is about physical evidences, otherwise why would you trust sitting on a chair since you don't always have a guarantee that the chair was built safely enough to support you. Our lives are based on blind faith in everything that surrounds us without us even realising. What makes a material world more reliable to you than a spiritual one? As for your other comment, the Bible never claimed to give all the answers about the mystery of God, rather, it emphasizes that mankind will never comprehend God fully as our minds are too small to take in the infinite world and most of us think too much 'inside the box' to open up to a power of this magnitude (read the Book of Job up until the end if you don't believe me).

This God I am talking about is real and has nothing to do with superstition, trust me.