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Reply #90 posted 11/20/17 10:10am

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Vashtix said:
laurarichardson said:
—He is still thinking about her after he left and cannot not wait to return for more of her. Mayte skin was not Ivory she was a brown skin women he is thinking about her brown skin.

Nope.

Let's do a little digging, since P said anything you wantd to know about his life was in his music.

Going from "Madrid 2 Chicago" would mean that he's LEAVING Madrid (where he left M1 in their mansion while out on business and other things) on his way to MPLS.

The opposite of ivory is ebony.

M2 is Canadian. Her mother is Egyptian.

"As soon as I see you"... means he's on his way to see her, and not waiting until the next time he gets to Madrid.

Decoding this song shows the end of his marriage to M1 and the beginnings of his somewhat-public relationship with M2. That's why when people in the beginning saw M2 in public with P at restaurants in M1's clothing, they THOUGHT it was M1, but a few from the area said it definitely wasn't. No one believed that P was seeing M2 until the divorce was final in 2000. Even when they were caught in a movie theater in 98 or 99, people still assumed it was M1. M2 was even backstage at the RAVE concerts. A good portin of the new songs on RAVE are a goodbye to M1.

So, yeah, "M2C" is enigmatically about M2.

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Reply #91 posted 11/20/17 11:31am

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TrcikyChristopher said:

Vashtix said:
laurarichardson said:

Nope.

Let's do a little digging, since P said anything you wantd to know about his life was in his music.

Going from "Madrid 2 Chicago" would mean that he's LEAVING Madrid (where he left M1 in their mansion while out on business and other things) on his way to MPLS.

The opposite of ivory is ebony.

M2 is Canadian. Her mother is Egyptian.

"As soon as I see you"... means he's on his way to see her, and not waiting until the next time he gets to Madrid.

Decoding this song shows the end of his marriage to M1 and the beginnings of his somewhat-public relationship with M2. That's why when people in the beginning saw M2 in public with P at restaurants in M1's clothing, they THOUGHT it was M1, but a few from the area said it definitely wasn't. No one believed that P was seeing M2 until the divorce was final in 2000. Even when they were caught in a movie theater in 98 or 99, people still assumed it was M1. M2 was even backstage at the RAVE concerts. A good portin of the new songs on RAVE are a goodbye to M1.

So, yeah, "M2C" is enigmatically about M2.

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Agree.

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Reply #92 posted 11/20/17 1:54pm

TrcikyChristopher said:

Vashtix said:
laurarichardson said:

Nope.

Let's do a little digging, since P said anything you wantd to know about his life was in his music.

Going from "Madrid 2 Chicago" would mean that he's LEAVING Madrid (where he left M1 in their mansion while out on business and other things) on his way to MPLS.

The opposite of ivory is ebony.

M2 is Canadian. Her mother is Egyptian.

"As soon as I see you"... means he's on his way to see her, and not waiting until the next time he gets to Madrid.

Decoding this song shows the end of his marriage to M1 and the beginnings of his somewhat-public relationship with M2. That's why when people in the beginning saw M2 in public with P at restaurants in M1's clothing, they THOUGHT it was M1, but a few from the area said it definitely wasn't. No one believed that P was seeing M2 until the divorce was final in 2000. Even when they were caught in a movie theater in 98 or 99, people still assumed it was M1. M2 was even backstage at the RAVE concerts. A good portin of the new songs on RAVE are a goodbye to M1.

So, yeah, "M2C" is enigmatically about M2.

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Indeed.

On the Rave video, he actually SAYS, 'My Puerto-Rican beauty don't live here no more'. And he has Manuella off to the side of the stage, handing him water. Couldn't be more obvious if he tried...

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Reply #93 posted 11/20/17 2:05pm

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Bassette said:
laurarichardson said:

How am I gonna make this connection when I-I got nothing but U'
(Nothing but eatin' that pussy)

What does the pussy part have to do with Chicago House music?

When I hear " Chicago" the first thing that comes to my mind is house music. I apologise, and I must admit, Laura, there is no connection with pussy-eating all. Maybe he used Chicago house as background music- while eating.

lol lol lol

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Reply #94 posted 11/20/17 2:24pm

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TrcikyChristopher said:

Nope.

Let's do a little digging, since P said anything you wantd to know about his life was in his music.

Going from "Madrid 2 Chicago" would mean that he's LEAVING Madrid (where he left M1 in their mansion while out on business and other things) on his way to MPLS.

The opposite of ivory is ebony.

M2 is Canadian. Her mother is Egyptian.

"As soon as I see you"... means he's on his way to see her, and not waiting until the next time he gets to Madrid.

Decoding this song shows the end of his marriage to M1 and the beginnings of his somewhat-public relationship with M2. That's why when people in the beginning saw M2 in public with P at restaurants in M1's clothing, they THOUGHT it was M1, but a few from the area said it definitely wasn't. No one believed that P was seeing M2 until the divorce was final in 2000. Even when they were caught in a movie theater in 98 or 99, people still assumed it was M1. M2 was even backstage at the RAVE concerts. A good portin of the new songs on RAVE are a goodbye to M1.

So, yeah, "M2C" is enigmatically about M2.

[Edited 11/20/17 10:15am]

Indeed.

On the Rave video, he actually SAYS, 'My Puerto-Rican beauty don't live here no more'. And he has Manuella off to the side of the stage, handing him water. Couldn't be more obvious if he tried...

Is this an official video? Also, is M2 visible from her place on the side of the stage?

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Reply #95 posted 11/20/17 2:35pm

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FlyOnTheWall said:

Dibblekins said:

TrcikyChristopher said:

Nope.

Let's do a little digging, since P said anything you wantd to know about his life was in his music.

Going from "Madrid 2 Chicago" would mean that he's LEAVING Madrid (where he left M1 in their mansion while out on business and other things) on his way to MPLS.

The opposite of ivory is ebony.

M2 is Canadian. Her mother is Egyptian.

"As soon as I see you"... means he's on his way to see her, and not waiting until the next time he gets to Madrid.

Decoding this song shows the end of his marriage to M1 and the beginnings of his somewhat-public relationship with M2. That's why when people in the beginning saw M2 in public with P at restaurants in M1's clothing, they THOUGHT it was M1, but a few from the area said it definitely wasn't. No one believed that P was seeing M2 until the divorce was final in 2000. Even when they were caught in a movie theater in 98 or 99, people still assumed it was M1. M2 was even backstage at the RAVE concerts. A good portin of the new songs on RAVE are a goodbye to M1.

So, yeah, "M2C" is enigmatically about M2.

[Edited 11/20/17 10:15am]

Indeed.

On the Rave video, he actually SAYS, 'My Puerto-Rican beauty don't live here no more'. And he has Manuella off to the side of the stage, handing him water. Couldn't be more obvious if he tried...

Is this an official video? Also, is M2 visible from her place on the side of the stage?

—I do not recall seeing her but people have active imaginations so if they want to think he was going to Chicago to eat out M2 then so be it. I think Prince was putting direct in his music. I think he would have made it plain if that was what the song was about. I already explained what I thought.

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Reply #96 posted 11/20/17 2:36pm

Dibblekins	FlyOnTheWall said: Dibblekins said: Indeed. On the Rave video, he actually SAYS, 'My Puerto-Rican beauty don't live here no more'. And he has Manuella off to the side of the stage, handing him water. Couldn't be more obvious if he tried... Is this an official video? Also, is M2 visible from her place on the side of the stage? Yes - it's the Rave Un2 the Year 2000 video.
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Reply #97 posted 11/20/17 2:36pm

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MMJas said:

laurarichardson said:

MMJas said:

Laura, don't be bitchy.
Besides, the absurdity of the bolded statement is baffling. You say many people of latin descent... well, I'm latin and was merely questioning the fact that latin people are refered as brown. Must be an american thing, cause here in Europe, where Latin people originate from, that is not so.

It is a American thing. Back in the 60s and 70s Chicanos even had an organization called "The Brown Berets" which was modeled after the Black Panthers

In the 90s the organization was revived.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_Berets_(Watsonville)

http://www.fightbacknews.org/2003winter/brownberets.htm

ight Back!: Did they work with groups in the Black community?

Carlos Montes: Yes, we supported and formed alliances with Black groups such as the Black Panther Party. We supported them when the police attacked them. We also set up similar programs like the East L.A. Free Clinic and free breakfast programs. We also were part of the first Rainbow Coalition when we joined the Poor Peoples Campaign in the summer of 1968. The Rev. Martin Luther King had struggled within the Southern Christian Leadership Conference to include the Chicano militant groups in the march on Washington, such as the Crusade for Justice, from Colorado; Alliance of Free City States, from New Mexico and the Brown Berets.

Fight Back!: Who were the Brown Berets?

Carlos Montes: We were a group of young Chicano revolutionaries from the barrios of the Southwest fighting for the self-determination of our people. We organized in our barrios, published the newspaper La Causa, ran a free clinic and fought against police brutality as well as against the U.S. war in Vietnam.

We evolved from a youth group - from Young Citizens for Community Action, to Young Chicanos for Community Action to the Brown Berets. We evolved from civic participation and assimilation to revolutionary nationalism. The brown beret was a symbol of the pride in our culture, race and history. It also symbolized our anger and militancy and fight against the long history of injustice against the Chican@ people in the U.S., especially the Southwest. We claimed the Southwest as Aztlan, the original homeland of the indigenous Aztec ancestors and founders of Mexico City, Tenochtitlan. We were from poor working class families growing up with the racism and police abuse.

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I am not being bitchy I am being honest. No one in the U.S would see her as fair skinned or white. I think we know full well that Prince was writing about Mayte( she was living in Madrid) or some sister he was seeing in Madrid. Mayte already said she knew he had affairs before they were married and during the marriage. I am sure it was more then M2. He is coming from Madrid and thinking about some women and she is not white or fair skinned as those colors are not the opposite of ivory.

I guess you think the song is about House music as well?

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[Edited 11/20/17 5:06am]

Fair enough, but you and others must realize that the USA is not the whole world and that other cultures and nationalities visit and participate in the Org, so not everything that is perceived one way in the USA is perceived the same elsewhere. Some things have a much wider dimension so let's keep an open mind and allow for cultural exchanges as well. It is only enriching for everyone, after all.

—It works both ways.

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Reply #98 posted 11/20/17 2:38pm

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FlyOnTheWall said:

laurarichardson said:

MMJas said:

Laura, don't be bitchy.
Besides, the absurdity of the bolded statement is baffling. You say many people of latin descent... well, I'm latin and was merely questioning the fact that latin people are refered as brown. Must be an american thing, cause here in Europe, where Latin people originate from, that is not so.

It is a American thing. Back in the 60s and 70s Chicanos even had an organization called "The Brown Berets" which was modeled after the Black Panthers

In the 90s the organization was revived.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_Berets_(Watsonville)

http://www.fightbacknews.org/2003winter/brownberets.htm

ight Back!: Did they work with groups in the Black community?

Carlos Montes: Yes, we supported and formed alliances with Black groups such as the Black Panther Party. We supported them when the police attacked them. We also set up similar programs like the East L.A. Free Clinic and free breakfast programs. We also were part of the first Rainbow Coalition when we joined the Poor Peoples Campaign in the summer of 1968. The Rev. Martin Luther King had struggled within the Southern Christian Leadership Conference to include the Chicano militant groups in the march on Washington, such as the Crusade for Justice, from Colorado; Alliance of Free City States, from New Mexico and the Brown Berets.

Fight Back!: Who were the Brown Berets?

Carlos Montes: We were a group of young Chicano revolutionaries from the barrios of the Southwest fighting for the self-determination of our people. We organized in our barrios, published the newspaper La Causa, ran a free clinic and fought against police brutality as well as against the U.S. war in Vietnam.

We evolved from a youth group - from Young Citizens for Community Action, to Young Chicanos for Community Action to the Brown Berets. We evolved from civic participation and assimilation to revolutionary nationalism. The brown beret was a symbol of the pride in our culture, race and history. It also symbolized our anger and militancy and fight against the long history of injustice against the Chican@ people in the U.S., especially the Southwest. We claimed the Southwest as Aztlan, the original homeland of the indigenous Aztec ancestors and founders of Mexico City, Tenochtitlan. We were from poor working class families growing up with the racism and police abuse.

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I am not being bitchy I am being honest. No one in the U.S would see her as fair skinned or white. I think we know full well that Prince was writing about Mayte( she was living in Madrid) or some sister he was seeing in Madrid. Mayte already said she knew he had affairs before they were married and during the marriage. I am sure it was more then M2. He is coming from Madrid and thinking about some women and she is not white or fair skinned as those colors are not the opposite of ivory.

I guess you think the song is about House music as well?

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[Edited 11/20/17 5:06am]

It's true that Latinos are referred to as brown; however, they are also sometimes considered "honorary Whites" in America. True story.

—When they look white and nobody would mistake Mayte for a white Women.

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Reply #99 posted 11/20/17 2:53pm

laurarichardson said:
FlyOnTheWall said:

It's true that Latinos are referred to as brown; however, they are also sometimes considered "honorary Whites" in America. True story.

—When they look white and nobody would mistake Mayte for a white Women.

I'm not so sure. In fact, I think that, if one does not know that her last name is Garcia, Mayte could very easily be mistaken for White. As it stands, isn't she considered a White Puerto Rican, as opposed to Afro Puerto Rican?

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Reply #100 posted 11/20/17 3:20pm

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FlyOnTheWall said:

laurarichardson said:
FlyOnTheWall said: —When they look white and nobody would mistake Mayte for a white Women.

I'm not so sure. In fact, I think that, if one does not know that her last name is Garcia, Mayte could very easily be mistaken for White. As it stands, isn't she considered a White Puerto Rican, as opposed to Afro Puerto Rican?

She said she has a grandmother that is 'african'

I don't like when white or black is added to Puerto Rican.

Their system and ideals of 'race' are so much different than the USA

Just be different

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Reply #101 posted 11/20/17 3:29pm

OldFriends4Sale said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

I'm not so sure. In fact, I think that, if one does not know that her last name is Garcia, Mayte could very easily be mistaken for White. As it stands, isn't she considered a White Puerto Rican, as opposed to Afro Puerto Rican?

She said she has a grandmother that is 'african'

I don't like when white or black is added to Puerto Rican.

Their system and ideals of 'race' are so much different than the USA

Just be different

The distinction is very real in Puerto Rico. Same thing in Cuba. It's everywhere. There is a hierarchy based on skin tone.

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Reply #102 posted 11/20/17 3:59pm

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laurarichardson said:
FlyOnTheWall said:

Is this an official video? Also, is M2 visible from her place on the side of the stage?

—I do not recall seeing her but people have active imaginations so if they want to think he was going to Chicago to eat out M2 then so be it. I think Prince was putting direct in his music. I think he would have made it plain if that was what the song was about. I already explained what I thought.

Actually, that's not what I said and trust me when I say - it wasn't my imagination and I don't appreciate the insinuation. It's pretty much documented that M2 was in the picture in at least '98, going as far as having her in the "Come On" video. By that time, M1 was either with her mother in Miami (as he stated himself on BET Tonight) or in Spain (both documented in M1's book).

The point is, he already sent M1 away and was seen in public with M2 on dates.

Or...fine... we'll call it "Bible study in a restaurant or movie theater".

He wasn't going just there to eat her out. They were already together despite his denials to M1.

As far as M2 being in RAVE... yes. Most specifically, stage right, during "Purple House".

I know people within the camp who were there and confirmed she was there. People thought it was M1. Those paying attention saw she wasn't thanked in the credits. M2 was.

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Reply #103 posted 11/20/17 4:09pm

TrcikyChristopher said:

laurarichardson said:
FlyOnTheWall said: —I do not recall seeing her but people have active imaginations so if they want to think he was going to Chicago to eat out M2 then so be it. I think Prince was putting direct in his music. I think he would have made it plain if that was what the song was about. I already explained what I thought.

Actually, that's not what I said and trust me when I say - it wasn't my imagination and I don't appreciate the insinuation. It's pretty much documented that M2 was in the picture in at least '98, going as far as having her in the "Come On" video. By that time, M1 was either with her mother in Miami (as he stated himself on BET Tonight) or in Spain (both documented in M1's book).

The point is, he already sent M1 away and was seen in public with M2 on dates.

Or...fine... we'll call it "Bible study in a restaurant or movie theater".

He wasn't going there to eat her out. They were already together despite his denials to M1.

As far as M2 being in RAVE... yes. Most specifically, stage right, during "Purple House".

I know people within the camp who were there and confirmed she was there. People thought it was M1. Those paying attention saw she wasn't thanked in the credits. M2 was.

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Y'all are FUNNY. lol

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Reply #104 posted 11/20/17 4:42pm

TrcikyChristopher said:

laurarichardson said:
FlyOnTheWall said: —I do not recall seeing her but people have active imaginations so if they want to think he was going to Chicago to eat out M2 then so be it. I think Prince was putting direct in his music. I think he would have made it plain if that was what the song was about. I already explained what I thought.

Actually, that's not what I said and trust me when I say - it wasn't my imagination and I don't appreciate the insinuation. It's pretty much documented that M2 was in the picture in at least '98, going as far as having her in the "Come On" video. By that time, M1 was either with her mother in Miami (as he stated himself on BET Tonight) or in Spain (both documented in M1's book).

The point is, he already sent M1 away and was seen in public with M2 on dates.

Or...fine... we'll call it "Bible study in a restaurant or movie theater".

He wasn't going just there to eat her out. They were already together despite his denials to M1.

As far as M2 being in RAVE... yes. Most specifically, stage right, during "Purple House".

I know people within the camp who were there and confirmed she was there. People thought it was M1. Those paying attention saw she wasn't thanked in the credits. M2 was.

[Edited 11/20/17 16:09pm]

Yes...Just found the entire 'Rave Un2' video on YT. Looks to me like Manuela is there (isn't she the one dressed in white, at the side of the stage)? And, yes, she is given thanks in the credits...Plus, his blues number makes clear in its lyrics that his key to their (his & Mayte's) purple house no longer fits, and that Mayte no longer lives there / in his house (heart).

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Reply #105 posted 11/20/17 4:51pm

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Dibblekins said:

TrcikyChristopher said:

Actually, that's not what I said and trust me when I say - it wasn't my imagination and I don't appreciate the insinuation. It's pretty much documented that M2 was in the picture in at least '98, going as far as having her in the "Come On" video. By that time, M1 was either with her mother in Miami (as he stated himself on BET Tonight) or in Spain (both documented in M1's book).

The point is, he already sent M1 away and was seen in public with M2 on dates.

Or...fine... we'll call it "Bible study in a restaurant or movie theater".

He wasn't going just there to eat her out. They were already together despite his denials to M1.

As far as M2 being in RAVE... yes. Most specifically, stage right, during "Purple House".

I know people within the camp who were there and confirmed she was there. People thought it was M1. Those paying attention saw she wasn't thanked in the credits. M2 was.

[Edited 11/20/17 16:09pm]

Yes...Just found the entire 'Rave Un2' video on YT. Looks to me like Manuela is there (isn't she the one dressed in white, at the side of the stage)? And, yes, she is given thanks in the credits...Plus, his blues number makes clear in its lyrics that his key to their (his & Mayte's) purple house no longer fits, and that Mayte no longer lives there / in his house (heart).

precisely.

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Reply #106 posted 11/20/17 5:30pm

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Dibblekins said:

TrcikyChristopher said:

laurarichardson said:

FlyOnTheWall said: —I do not recall seeing her but people have active imaginations so if they want to think he was going to Chicago to eat out M2 then so be it. I think Prince was putting direct in his music. I think he would have made it plain if that was what the song was about. I already explained what I thought.

Actually, that's not what I said and trust me when I say - it wasn't my imagination and I don't appreciate the insinuation. It's pretty much documented that M2 was in the picture in at least '98, going as far as having her in the "Come On" video. By that time, M1 was either with her mother in Miami (as he stated himself on BET Tonight) or in Spain (both documented in M1's book).

The point is, he already sent M1 away and was seen in public with M2 on dates.

Or...fine... we'll call it "Bible study in a restaurant or movie theater".

He wasn't going just there to eat her out. They were already together despite his denials to M1.

As far as M2 being in RAVE... yes. Most specifically, stage right, during "Purple House".

I know people within the camp who were there and confirmed she was there. People thought it was M1. Those paying attention saw she wasn't thanked in the credits. M2 was.

[Edited 11/20/17 16:09pm]

Yes...Just found the entire 'Rave Un2' video on YT. Looks to me like Manuela is there (isn't she the one dressed in white, at the side of the stage)? And, yes, she is given thanks in the credits...Plus, his blues number makes clear in its lyrics that his key to their (his & Mayte's) purple house no longer fits, and that Mayte no longer lives there / in his house (heart).

Yes, but he was also running around with Geneva the girl dancing behind him. Some women being on the side of the stage did not mean much with this guy.

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Reply #107 posted 11/20/17 5:45pm

laurarichardson said:

Dibblekins said:

TrcikyChristopher said:

laurarichardson said:

FlyOnTheWall said: —I do not recall seeing her but people have active imaginations so if they want to think he was going to Chicago to eat out M2 then so be it. I think Prince was putting direct in his music. I think he would have made it plain if that was what the song was about. I already explained what I thought.

Actually, that's not what I said and trust me when I say - it wasn't my imagination and I don't appreciate the insinuation. It's pretty much documented that M2 was in the picture in at least '98, going as far as having her in the "Come On" video. By that time, M1 was either with her mother in Miami (as he stated himself on BET Tonight) or in Spain (both documented in M1's book).

The point is, he already sent M1 away and was seen in public with M2 on dates.

Or...fine... we'll call it "Bible study in a restaurant or movie theater".

He wasn't going just there to eat her out. They were already together despite his denials to M1.

As far as M2 being in RAVE... yes. Most specifically, stage right, during "Purple House".

I know people within the camp who were there and confirmed she was there. People thought it was M1. Those paying attention saw she wasn't thanked in the credits. M2 was.

[Edited 11/20/17 16:09pm]

Yes...Just found the entire 'Rave Un2' video on YT. Looks to me like Manuela is there (isn't she the one dressed in white, at the side of the stage)? And, yes, she is given thanks in the credits...Plus, his blues number makes clear in its lyrics that his key to their (his & Mayte's) purple house no longer fits, and that Mayte no longer lives there / in his house (heart).

Yes, but he was also running around with Geneva the girl dancing behind him. Some women being on the side of the stage did not mean much with this guy.

Amen to that!!!! Being on the side, or front and center did not mean a flip.
The only women he didn’t cheat on was his mom and sister.

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Reply #108 posted 11/20/17 6:11pm

Dibblekins said:

TrcikyChristopher said:

Actually, that's not what I said and trust me when I say - it wasn't my imagination and I don't appreciate the insinuation. It's pretty much documented that M2 was in the picture in at least '98, going as far as having her in the "Come On" video. By that time, M1 was either with her mother in Miami (as he stated himself on BET Tonight) or in Spain (both documented in M1's book).

The point is, he already sent M1 away and was seen in public with M2 on dates.

Or...fine... we'll call it "Bible study in a restaurant or movie theater".

He wasn't going just there to eat her out. They were already together despite his denials to M1.

As far as M2 being in RAVE... yes. Most specifically, stage right, during "Purple House".

I know people within the camp who were there and confirmed she was there. People thought it was M1. Those paying attention saw she wasn't thanked in the credits. M2 was.

[Edited 11/20/17 16:09pm]

Yes...Just found the entire 'Rave Un2' video on YT. Looks to me like Manuela is there (isn't she the one dressed in white, at the side of the stage)? And, yes, she is given thanks in the credits...Plus, his blues number makes clear in its lyrics that his key to their (his & Mayte's) purple house no longer fits, and that Mayte no longer lives there / in his house (heart).

I'm going to have to go back and look at it again. I'm usually too distracted by him in those electric blue trousers to focus on much else. nod

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FlyOnTheWall said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

I'm not so sure. In fact, I think that, if one does not know that her last name is Garcia, Mayte could very easily be mistaken for White. As it stands, isn't she considered a White Puerto Rican, as opposed to Afro Puerto Rican?

She said she has a grandmother that is 'african'

I don't like when white or black is added to Puerto Rican.

Their system and ideals of 'race' are so much different than the USA

Just be different

The distinction is very real in Puerto Rico. Same thing in Cuba. It's everywhere. There is a hierarchy based on skin tone.

—Of course there is and Mayte would not pass the paper bag test.

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Reply #110 posted 11/20/17 6:32pm

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purplefam99 said:

laurarichardson said:

Yes, but he was also running around with Geneva the girl dancing behind him. Some women being on the side of the stage did not mean much with this guy.

Amen to that!!!! Being on the side, or front and center did not mean a flip.
The only women he didn’t cheat on was his mom and sister.

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Exactly this fool left his wife in Madrid showered got on a plane probably did the mile high with a stewardess. Freshen up in his layover made a pit stop in Chicago for some more dining. Got back on the plane to go to Minneapolis and hooked up with M2. Hard to believe how people do not still see how he rolled.

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FlyOnTheWall said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

She said she has a grandmother that is 'african'

I don't like when white or black is added to Puerto Rican.

Their system and ideals of 'race' are so much different than the USA

Just be different

The distinction is very real in Puerto Rico. Same thing in Cuba. It's everywhere. There is a hierarchy based on skin tone.

yes. i'm familiar with the color system by admixture

it is still very much different from the 4 catagory US racial system

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TrcikyChristopher said:

laurarichardson said:

FlyOnTheWall said: —I do not recall seeing her but people have active imaginations so if they want to think he was going to Chicago to eat out M2 then so be it. I think Prince was putting direct in his music. I think he would have made it plain if that was what the song was about. I already explained what I thought.

Actually, that's not what I said and trust me when I say - it wasn't my imagination and I don't appreciate the insinuation. It's pretty much documented that M2 was in the picture in at least '98, going as far as having her in the "Come On" video. By that time, M1 was either with her mother in Miami (as he stated himself on BET Tonight) or in Spain (both documented in M1's book).

The point is, he already sent M1 away and was seen in public with M2 on dates.

Or...fine... we'll call it "Bible study in a restaurant or movie theater".

He wasn't going just there to eat her out. They were already together despite his denials to M1.

As far as M2 being in RAVE... yes. Most specifically, stage right, during "Purple House".

I know people within the camp who were there and confirmed she was there. People thought it was M1. Those paying attention saw she wasn't thanked in the credits. M2 was.

[Edited 11/20/17 16:09pm]

Yes...Just found the entire 'Rave Un2' video on YT. Looks to me like Manuela is there (isn't she the one dressed in white, at the side of the stage)? And, yes, she is given thanks in the credits...Plus, his blues number makes clear in its lyrics that his key to their (his & Mayte's) purple house no longer fits, and that Mayte no longer lives there / in his house (heart).

Yes, but he was also running around with Geneva the girl dancing behind him. Some women being on the side of the stage did not mean much with this guy.

If my memory is correct, Geneva is not dancing on the Rave concert DVD. Unless, it was a general statement.

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Dibblekins said:

Yes...Just found the entire 'Rave Un2' video on YT. Looks to me like Manuela is there (isn't she the one dressed in white, at the side of the stage)? And, yes, she is given thanks in the credits...Plus, his blues number makes clear in its lyrics that his key to their (his & Mayte's) purple house no longer fits, and that Mayte no longer lives there / in his house (heart).

Yes, but he was also running around with Geneva the girl dancing behind him. Some women being on the side of the stage did not mean much with this guy.

While I agree with most of that statement, Geneva didn't come around until early/midway through 2000, I think. So, I don't believe that's her. THAT dancer was a dancer left over from the NPG Dance Company. Geneva's stint was quick due to the lack of interest by the audience and possibly her own personal reasons. Also, she was dating Larenz Tate at the time, whom she ended up marrying. They've been together for over 20 years. Prince may have been a lot of things, but he was too jealous and proud to steal another man's woman. Come to think of it, maybe that's why she was only around for a bit. LOL

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Nope.

Let's do a little digging, since P said anything you wantd to know about his life was in his music.

Going from "Madrid 2 Chicago" would mean that he's LEAVING Madrid (where he left M1 in their mansion while out on business and other things) on his way to MPLS.

The opposite of ivory is ebony.

M2 is Canadian. Her mother is Egyptian.

"As soon as I see you"... means he's on his way to see her, and not waiting until the next time he gets to Madrid.

Decoding this song shows the end of his marriage to M1 and the beginnings of his somewhat-public relationship with M2. That's why when people in the beginning saw M2 in public with P at restaurants in M1's clothing, they THOUGHT it was M1, but a few from the area said it definitely wasn't. No one believed that P was seeing M2 until the divorce was final in 2000. Even when they were caught in a movie theater in 98 or 99, people still assumed it was M1. M2 was even backstage at the RAVE concerts. A good portin of the new songs on RAVE are a goodbye to M1.

So, yeah, "M2C" is enigmatically about M2.

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What is M1 and M2? I hate when people use letters for things, I can rarely work out what they are going on about.

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purplefam99 said:
Amen to that!!!! Being on the side, or front and center did not mean a flip. The only women he didn’t cheat on was his mom and sister.
—- Exactly this fool left his wife in Madrid showered got on a plane probably did the mile high with a stewardess. Freshen up in his layover made a pit stop in Chicago for some more dining. Got back on the plane to go to Minneapolis and hooked up with M2. Hard to believe how people do not still see how he rolled.

nod

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He did not hide it. It was who he was back then. It is why I do not pity the women cause they knew the deal. The women entered his world at their own risk.

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Reply #116 posted 11/21/17 3:41am

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TrcikyChristopher said:

Nope.

Let's do a little digging, since P said anything you wantd to know about his life was in his music.

Going from "Madrid 2 Chicago" would mean that he's LEAVING Madrid (where he left M1 in their mansion while out on business and other things) on his way to MPLS.

The opposite of ivory is ebony.

M2 is Canadian. Her mother is Egyptian.

"As soon as I see you"... means he's on his way to see her, and not waiting until the next time he gets to Madrid.

Decoding this song shows the end of his marriage to M1 and the beginnings of his somewhat-public relationship with M2. That's why when people in the beginning saw M2 in public with P at restaurants in M1's clothing, they THOUGHT it was M1, but a few from the area said it definitely wasn't. No one believed that P was seeing M2 until the divorce was final in 2000. Even when they were caught in a movie theater in 98 or 99, people still assumed it was M1. M2 was even backstage at the RAVE concerts. A good portin of the new songs on RAVE are a goodbye to M1.

So, yeah, "M2C" is enigmatically about M2.

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What is M1 and M2? I hate when people use letters for things, I can rarely work out what they are going on about.

M1 and M2 are Prince's ex-wives: M1 = Mayte; M2 = Manuela.

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TheEnglishGent said:

What is M1 and M2? I hate when people use letters for things, I can rarely work out what they are going on about.

M1 and M2 are Prince's ex-wives: M1 = Mayte; M2 = Manuela.

Really? What a horrible way to refer to these people! neutral

Thanks for explainging though.

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Reply #118 posted 11/21/17 7:25am

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laurarichardson said:

purplefam99 said:

Amen to that!!!! Being on the side, or front and center did not mean a flip.
The only women he didn’t cheat on was his mom and sister.

—-
Exactly this fool left his wife in Madrid showered got on a plane probably did the mile high with a stewardess. Freshen up in his layover made a pit stop in Chicago for some more dining. Got back on the plane to go to Minneapolis and hooked up with M2. Hard to believe how people do not still see how he rolled.

lol

cry

lol

What?

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Reply #119 posted 11/21/17 7:40am

MMJas said:

laurarichardson said:

She is brown. She is not black and she is not white. Many people of latin desendent refer to themselves as brown people. Honestly, wonder about some of you sometimes.

Laura, don't be bitchy.
Besides, the absurdity of the bolded statement is baffling. You say many people of latin descent... well, I'm latin and was merely questioning the fact that latin people are refered as brown. Must be an american thing, cause here in Europe, where Latin people originate from, that is not so.

In northern Europe it is possible to refer to latin people as brown.

The wooh is on the one!

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