MattyJam said:

I wasn't really wild about his cover of this track, but if it appeals to a younger audience who was in diapers or not even in existence with the original hit the streets, so be it.

Pop artists basically sing from a catalog of prewritten pop tunes whipped up by an outside group of writers. So you can pass a song from one person to another and its not really going to affect the integrity of the song because it was never written by that person or for that person in the first place.

Purple Rain, more specifically, When Doves Cry, is drenched in Prince's persona, so for some of us, its really awkward hearing another person sing P's words.

Prince wrote stuff as giveaway songs, mainly the stuff he passed on to his protege acts. But you can tell when he's writing a song for himself. WDC is one of those.

I dig 80's synth sounds, moreso than the Neptunes stuff flooding the airwaves today.

In all fairness though, prince is just as guilty of bad covers. He took a very sincere track, I Cant Make You Love Me, from Bonnie Rait and turned it into a cornball bump'n'-grind song. Heresy! LOL
[This message was edited Tue Apr 15 8:22:24 PDT 2003 by Tom]

i heard the cover a couple of times...it really sucked!

That cover was almost as bad as PM dawns 1999. I cringe every time I hear it!!

MattyJam said:

Its sound isn't dated at all but light years ahead of most popular music being produced today. And I'm not a fanatic, I dislike almost everything he released after 1988.

surely this thread needs to be locked. from the get-go! MY GOD!

i do really enjoy the cover from Romeo + Juliet, though

MattyJam said:

(tricky voice) yes!!!

AaronSuperior said:

runs away

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

oh hush!

I know this has to be a joke! That was the worst piece of shit I ever heard. "The sweat of your body covers G". What kinda shit is that?

AaronSuperior said:

Ginuwine has a LOT of bad songs, but "When Doves Cry" has to be his worst. He doesn't even sound like he understands what the song is about.

"a definte improvement"? Different yeah, but improvement?...bait.

Oh btw..the synths on WDC stand up with time. Does not sound cheesy. WDC is a one of those timeless songs that does not sound dated.

Its gash!!! I mean, you'd have to do something pretty spectacular with WDC to improve on it - I've heard better than Ginuwine's effort passing the local karoake shithole on a Friday night!

Ok, that's an exaggeration, and Ginuwine didn't "murder" the tune, but it's still not a patch on the original. The difference? - emotion!

That cheap beat makes it sound dated already. That crap has to go! That "the sweat of your body covers G" is among the worst bastardizations of a lyric ever, and the "buhhh buh buh buhh" synth sounds MAJORLY Casio keyboard.

Moonbeam said:

almost, but not quite. let's not forget "The Christ"

rdhull said:

I think the only reason that it could possibly sound dated to the younger generation is because it's not the same cookie cutter bullshit shiny polished production you hear on every single fucking song made today.

AaronSuperior said:

I said "among."

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Or because they're dumb hehe

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[This message was edited Tue Apr 15 9:32:43 PDT 2003 by rdhull]

Ginuwine also succeeds in taking all emotion out of this song. It is just a bland R and B ballad with a cheap beat, embarassingly Casio keyboard synths and silly lyrics.

Song with drum machines HAVE to sound dated sometime, because technology evolves (but I don't consider that "dated", I don't really know how to say it, but WDC is just perfect for me).
Comparing this to Parade makes no sense IMO, because that album was much more "live" than PR (except for maybe Mountains, and that sounds just as "dated" as WDC).

rdhull said:

Get 'em, RD!

so, let me sum up for the class.


you're wrong, it's not better than the original. in fact, it sucks

OR it sounds dated because it's actually original unlike all the prefab crap put out today.

what's wrong with sounding dated? all recorded music is going to sound dated, whether it's because of the technology used in recording it, or because of the style it's in.


a great SONG will never be dated. there will always be room for it to grow with the times, and have various styles and technology applied to it.

Ginuwine tried. he failed. he applied an inappropriate styel to it. or maybe it just wasn't old enough yet. nobody needed to hear a new version, the original was still just fine.

Matty, you're probably only liking Ginuwine's version cause it's fresh to your ears.You'll be going back to the original long after you send that abomination to the recycle bin, where it deserves to be.

Prince's WDC still gets radio play to this day, and always will.I think i heard the Ginuwine version once.

Rhondab said:

I second this!

What I find interesting is that the author of this thread dismissed everyone who preferred Prince's version as "blinded" and lacking objectivity. What kind of objectivity is it to dismiss the opinions of other because they are different?

MattyJam said:

Ginuwine's cover was a definite mistake!