leadline said:

PennyPurple said:

Sharon said in her Q & A, she still doesn't know.

Exactly. So you can extrapolate from that that none of the siblings know much at all.

I have it from a first-hand source that the two sibling 'factions' are not close, and don't speak. It could well be that 'some' know things whilst others don't. Given the dynamic that can be clearly seen via the estate thread, I don't think it's much of a stretch.

ThatWhiteDude said:

laytonian said:

No wonder Trump is President.

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You already forgot the drone man, the Hillary helper, the nobel-prize taker, the debtmaker, the origin-hider?

You might see or hear to much in things but this beats most of what the sane world can bear.

That counts for Tyka and for you.

Please consider the opiate epidemic in the USSA.

Please ackowledge the lack of progress in P's police case.

Dibblekins said:

leadline said:

Exactly. So you can extrapolate from that that none of the siblings know much at all.

I have it from a first-hand source that the two sibling 'factions' are not close, and don't speak. It could well be that 'some' know things whilst others don't. Given the dynamic that can be clearly seen via the estate thread, I don't think it's much of a stretch.

I think it's a stretch. Prince had very sporadic relationships with his siblings. At times going decade plus without talking. The siblings themselves also apparantley have had sporadic communication with one another over the years and even up until this day.

So with all that wonderful communication happenning, not hard to come to the conclusion that, at best, they know as much as we do.

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leadline said:

Dibblekins said:

I have it from a first-hand source that the two sibling 'factions' are not close, and don't speak. It could well be that 'some' know things whilst others don't. Given the dynamic that can be clearly seen via the estate thread, I don't think it's much of a stretch.

I think it's a stretch. Prince had very sporadic relationships with his siblings. At times going decade plus without talking. The siblings themselves also apparantley have had sporadic communication with one another over the years and even up until this day.

So with all that wonderful communication happenning, not hard to come to the conclusion that, at best, they know as much as we do.

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Well, we know he was talking with Tyka - she was working for him during the last 4 years of his life; plus, she was at Paisley for some of his most recent gigs...Apparently, they were seen sitting together in one of the booths.

Dibblekins said:

leadline said:

I think it's a stretch. Prince had very sporadic relationships with his siblings. At times going decade plus without talking. The siblings themselves also apparantley have had sporadic communication with one another over the years and even up until this day.

So with all that wonderful communication happenning, not hard to come to the conclusion that, at best, they know as much as we do.

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Well, we know he was talking with Tyka - she was working for him during the last 4 years of his life; plus, she was at Paisley for some of his most recent gigs...Apparently, they were seen sitting together in one of the booths.

Many people were at paisley, many people interacted with prince, many people even spent days, weeks, months and even years with Prince, many people got close to Prince, Prince considered many of these people friends, lovers and even wife (mayte) Prince being seen sitting with his sister means nothing, their times together were limited, and Prince being guarded with all aspects of his life, a casual sitting together somewhere means nothing. All of these people in Princes life that were much closer to him than Tyka, also know nothing and have no answers to give.

leadline said:

Dibblekins said:

Well, we know he was talking with Tyka - she was working for him during the last 4 years of his life; plus, she was at Paisley for some of his most recent gigs...Apparently, they were seen sitting together in one of the booths.

Many people were at paisley, many people interacted with prince, many people even spent days, weeks, months and even years with Prince, many people got close to Prince, Prince considered many of these people friends, lovers and even wife (mayte) Prince being seen sitting with his sister means nothing, their times together were limited, and Prince being guarded with all aspects of his life, a casual sitting together somewhere means nothing. All of these people in Princes life that were much closer to him than Tyka, also know nothing and have no answers to give.

Well, you're entitled to your opinion, of course. Mine is that she potentially knows a lot more than some of the other siblings who, it seems, didn't have any contact with him at all - at least not for a long, long time.

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Mayte hadn't been in a relationship (or even conversation) with him in recent years so I'm not sure how / why you're conflating people who were close to him decades ago with his sister who we know was working for him, and was seen alone with him in his last months on this planet.

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I'm assuming you weren't party to their most recent interactions so I'm not sure how you can be so sure it was 'casual' in its tenor. Those eye witness accounts I read many moons ago seemed to imply there was an intimacy and seriousness not normally on view to the public. I can't vouch for the reliability of those accounts, of course.
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Anyway, I for one am looking forward to hearing more from Tyka, even if that does mean having to purchase a book. One can still read with skepticism, although I'm not sure what she'd have to gain by lying at this stage in the game.

Dibblekins said:

leadline said:

Many people were at paisley, many people interacted with prince, many people even spent days, weeks, months and even years with Prince, many people got close to Prince, Prince considered many of these people friends, lovers and even wife (mayte) Prince being seen sitting with his sister means nothing, their times together were limited, and Prince being guarded with all aspects of his life, a casual sitting together somewhere means nothing. All of these people in Princes life that were much closer to him than Tyka, also know nothing and have no answers to give.

Well, you're entitled to your opinion, of course. Mine is that she potentially knows a lot more than some of the other siblings who, it seems, didn't have any contact with him at all - at least not for a long, long time.

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Mayte hadn't been in a relationship (or even conversation) with him in recent years so I'm not sure how / why you're conflating people who were close to him decades ago with his sister who we know was working for him, and was seen alone with him in his last months on this planet.

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I'm assuming you weren't party to their most recent interactions so I'm not sure how you can be so sure it was 'casual' in its tenor. Those eye witness accounts I read many moons ago seemed to imply there was an intimacy and seriousness not normally on view to the public. I can't vouch for the reliability of those accounts, of course.
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Anyway, I for one am looking forward to hearing more from Tyka, even if that does mean having to purchase a book. One can still read with skepticism, although I'm not sure what she'd have to gain by lying at this stage in the game.

It's just common sense. When the sisters start talking and making any kind of sense, then I will listen, until then, my view is they likely know nothing. There is no evidence to suggest otherwise.

leadline said:

Dibblekins said:

Well, you're entitled to your opinion, of course. Mine is that she potentially knows a lot more than some of the other siblings who, it seems, didn't have any contact with him at all - at least not for a long, long time.

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Mayte hadn't been in a relationship (or even conversation) with him in recent years so I'm not sure how / why you're conflating people who were close to him decades ago with his sister who we know was working for him, and was seen alone with him in his last months on this planet.

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I'm assuming you weren't party to their most recent interactions so I'm not sure how you can be so sure it was 'casual' in its tenor. Those eye witness accounts I read many moons ago seemed to imply there was an intimacy and seriousness not normally on view to the public. I can't vouch for the reliability of those accounts, of course.
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Anyway, I for one am looking forward to hearing more from Tyka, even if that does mean having to purchase a book. One can still read with skepticism, although I'm not sure what she'd have to gain by lying at this stage in the game.

It's just common sense. When the sisters start talking and making any kind of sense, then I will listen, until then, my view is they likely know nothing. There is no evidence to suggest otherwise.

Again, I'm not sure why you're conflating the two sets of siblings...My source told me that Tyka was having nothing to do with the other (half) sisters and hadn't for a long time. The wranglings over the estate confirm this. There is plenty of evidence to suggest that Tyka had conversations with her brother; the others not so much.

Bingo and Amen x 10000.

sonshine said:

F.Y.I. - The article did NOT use the words "junkie", "drug addict", etc. Just sayin. I think too many people still don't understand addiction, substance abuse, and/or the power/danger of opiates. So they have a very skewed, negative view of these issues resulting in a lack of empathy for the individuals involved. In fact they find the whole matter repulsive. It's no wonder Prince hid the truth from his "fans".

Dibblekins said:

leadline said:

It's just common sense. When the sisters start talking and making any kind of sense, then I will listen, until then, my view is they likely know nothing. There is no evidence to suggest otherwise.

Again, I'm not sure why you're conflating the two sets of siblings...My source told me that Tyka was having nothing to do with the other (half) sisters and hadn't for a long time. The wranglings over the estate confirm this. There is plenty of evidence to suggest that Tyka had conversations with her brother; the others not so much.

They could converse till the cows come home, what is the evidence that anything of merit was said? There is none, therefore it can't be assumed she has anyknowledge of "things" based on that.Also, time spent together means nothing as I have said. Tyka coming out saying she knew he was going to die, or, he knew he was going to die, well, that is all just projecting on her part, or her simply trying to get attention, or, a flat out lie. So if that's all she's got, well, good luck with the book, although I am sure many will buy it and take it as gospel. Tyka is not her brother, the only one who has the asnwers is Prince. And lets not forget that we are talking about the same Tyka that rolled around with a purple dinasaur that she had conversations with back in the day. There is probably a good reason Prince likely never told her anything substantial.

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laytonian said:

laurarichardson said:

No nothing was wrong he told his sister he was going to die a few years ahead just for shits and giggles.

No, he didn't tell her he was going to die.

He said something like "I've accomplished everything I came here for" AND A WEEK LATER she looks at a photo and adds 2+2 to get 5.

Good GOD, people. You make crap up and then all agree with it.

No wonder Trump is President.

i agree....she is saying this to make her look like she was important

Dibblekins said:

Again, I'm not sure why you're conflating the two sets of siblings...My source told me that Tyka was having nothing to do with the other (half) sisters and hadn't for a long time. The wranglings over the estate confirm this. There is plenty of evidence to suggest that Tyka had conversations with her brother; the others not so much.

I'm with you Dibblekins. There's been interaction between Tyka and Prince noted over the last few years, there's been nothing at all between Prince and the elder sibs, as clearly evidenced by Sharon saying she'd never been in PP in that interview last year. Norrine hasn't been specific, but she hasn't said anything at all that I'm aware of so it's not a stretch to think she was even less connected than Sharon.

You don't want to know how he made the sausage.

Vashtix said:

I will never believe Prince was a drug addict.

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That won't change reality.

He was connected to drug dealers to be able to get the opiates that killed him.

udo said:

Vashtix said:

I will never believe Prince was a drug addict.

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That won't change reality.

He was connected to drug dealers to be able to get the opiates that killed him.

Do you mean that dealer that was talking to the tabloid press about selling that shit to Prince? If so, do you really believe that bullshit? As if his dealer would make it public that he gave him them drugs that killed him.

ThatWhiteDude said:

udo said:

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That won't change reality.

He was connected to drug dealers to be able to get the opiates that killed him.

Do you mean that dealer that was talking to the tabloid press about selling that shit to Prince?

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Did I specify how he was connected or to who(m)?

Of course he had his people....

ThatWhiteDude said:

udo said:

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That won't change reality.

He was connected to drug dealers to be able to get the opiates that killed him.

Do you mean that dealer that was talking to the tabloid press about selling that shit to Prince? If so, do you really believe that bullshit? As if his dealer would make it public that he gave him them drugs that killed him.

i didn't believe it at the time but there were some interesting things, he did mention fentanyl. I don't think i believe the guy though, if prince were that hung up for that long he'd have died a long time ago or burned out like Sly Stone and others. Him saying prince had stagefright really ruined his story for me, my post at the time said "he had stagefright like a guy getting ready to make love to a beautiful woman" he loved the stage.

leadline said:

Dibblekins said:

Again, I'm not sure why you're conflating the two sets of siblings...My source told me that Tyka was having nothing to do with the other (half) sisters and hadn't for a long time. The wranglings over the estate confirm this. There is plenty of evidence to suggest that Tyka had conversations with her brother; the others not so much.

They could converse till the cows come home, what is the evidence that anything of merit was said? There is none, therefore it can't be assumed she has anyknowledge of "things" based on that.Also, time spent together means nothing as I have said. Tyka coming out saying she knew he was going to die, or, he knew he was going to die, well, that is all just projecting on her part, or her simply trying to get attention, or, a flat out lie. So if that's all she's got, well, good luck with the book, although I am sure many will buy it and take it as gospel. Tyka is not her brother, the only one who has the asnwers is Prince. And lets not forget that we are talking about the same Tyka that rolled around with a purple dinasaur that she had conversations with back in the day. There is probably a good reason Prince likely never told her anything substantial.

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'what is the evidence that anything of merit was said?'

What is the evidence that there wasn't? What would you class as 'evidence' anyway? There would be two parties to the conversation. One is dead; the other says they talked, and there was merit to it. The only 'evidence' we can possibly have is her word. So if you're determined to dismiss that then, OK, there's no evidence.

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'Tyka coming out saying she knew he was going to die, or, he knew he was going to die, well, that is all just projecting on her part, or her simply trying to get attention, or, a flat out lie'.

How can you possibly know this? You can't. None of us can know for sure if it's true or not.

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'good luck with the book, although I am sure many will buy it and take it as gospel'

I'm sure any discerning reader will find it interesting...As for it being gospel, who knows. Your word on this matter isn't gospel either - nobody's is!

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'the only one who has the asnwers is Prince'

Not if there were two parties to any conversation. And we KNOW they talked, because there are 3rd party witnesses to their talking. Prince was also not above embellishing things, contradicting himself, even fibbing on occasions. At the end of the day, neither you or I were present at any dialogue the two may have had so we don't know the content / import and will only ever now have Tyka's word on it. I am prepared to look at her version of events with an open mind - are you?
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'There is probably a good reason Prince likely never told her anything substantial'

Again, you can't possibly know this. Why should your verdict on events be more veracious than hers?

Note: I say the above with respect - for you and her.

udo said:

Vashtix said:

I will never believe Prince was a drug addict.

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That won't change reality.

He was connected to drug dealers to be able to get the opiates that killed him.

Was he? Or was that the story that was created with fake articles, contacts and events, to create the impression of truth?

Dibblekins said:

leadline said:

They could converse till the cows come home, what is the evidence that anything of merit was said? There is none, therefore it can't be assumed she has anyknowledge of "things" based on that.Also, time spent together means nothing as I have said. Tyka coming out saying she knew he was going to die, or, he knew he was going to die, well, that is all just projecting on her part, or her simply trying to get attention, or, a flat out lie. So if that's all she's got, well, good luck with the book, although I am sure many will buy it and take it as gospel. Tyka is not her brother, the only one who has the asnwers is Prince. And lets not forget that we are talking about the same Tyka that rolled around with a purple dinasaur that she had conversations with back in the day. There is probably a good reason Prince likely never told her anything substantial.

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'what is the evidence that anything of merit was said?'

What is the evidence that there wasn't? What would you class as 'evidence' anyway? There would be two parties to the conversation. One is dead; the other says they talked, and there was merit to it. The only 'evidence' we can possibly have is her word. So if you're determined to dismiss that then, OK, there's no evidence.

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'Tyka coming out saying she knew he was going to die, or, he knew he was going to die, well, that is all just projecting on her part, or her simply trying to get attention, or, a flat out lie'.

How can you possibly know this? You can't. None of us can know for sure if it's true or not.

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'good luck with the book, although I am sure many will buy it and take it as gospel'

I'm sure any discerning reader will find it interesting...As for it being gospel, who knows. Your word on this matter isn't gospel either - nobody's is!

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'the only one who has the asnwers is Prince'

Not if there were two parties to any conversation. And we KNOW they talked, because there are 3rd party witnesses to their talking. Prince was also not above embellishing things, contradicting himself, even fibbing on occasions. At the end of the day, neither you or I were present at any dialogue the two may have had so we don't know the content / import and will only ever now have Tyka's word on it. I am prepared to look at her version of events with an open mind - are you?
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'There is probably a good reason Prince likely never told her anything substantial'

Again, you can't possibly know this. Why should your verdict on events be more veracious than hers?

Note: I say the above with respect - for you and her.

Nicely written, as I said, I am applying common sense. Likewise, you could not possibly know anything you have speculated either. But when applying common sense, that usually brings you closer to the truth.

leadline said:

udo said:

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That won't change reality.

He was connected to drug dealers to be able to get the opiates that killed him.

Was he? Or was that the story that was created with fake articles, contacts and events, to create the impression of truth?

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Either way, via 'his people', the stuff came to him.

So there was a connection.

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Was the problem he needed to fix of a nature for which he could take this risk instead of another risk?

Apparently not.

leadline said:

Dibblekins said:

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'what is the evidence that anything of merit was said?'

What is the evidence that there wasn't? What would you class as 'evidence' anyway? There would be two parties to the conversation. One is dead; the other says they talked, and there was merit to it. The only 'evidence' we can possibly have is her word. So if you're determined to dismiss that then, OK, there's no evidence.

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'Tyka coming out saying she knew he was going to die, or, he knew he was going to die, well, that is all just projecting on her part, or her simply trying to get attention, or, a flat out lie'.

How can you possibly know this? You can't. None of us can know for sure if it's true or not.

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'good luck with the book, although I am sure many will buy it and take it as gospel'

I'm sure any discerning reader will find it interesting...As for it being gospel, who knows. Your word on this matter isn't gospel either - nobody's is!

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'the only one who has the asnwers is Prince'

Not if there were two parties to any conversation. And we KNOW they talked, because there are 3rd party witnesses to their talking. Prince was also not above embellishing things, contradicting himself, even fibbing on occasions. At the end of the day, neither you or I were present at any dialogue the two may have had so we don't know the content / import and will only ever now have Tyka's word on it. I am prepared to look at her version of events with an open mind - are you?
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'There is probably a good reason Prince likely never told her anything substantial'

Again, you can't possibly know this. Why should your verdict on events be more veracious than hers?

Note: I say the above with respect - for you and her.

Nicely written, as I said, I am applying common sense. Likewise, you could not possibly know anything you have speculated either. But when applying common sense, that usually brings you closer to the truth.

I doubt that I will believe anything that is written by Tyka concerning Prince's death unless is substantiated by evidence: autopsy report, information from law enforcement.

What I have heard from her so far, just seems to be setting things up so you will want to buy her book- another way to make money......

stpaisios said:

Comparing Prince to junkies is not cool.

Prince was a human. Junkies R humans. Addiction is a horrible thing, and any1 can succumb 2 it. Say it loud: Prince was a drug addict. And as much as Eye love and respect him, Eye know when 2 say that he made a fateful mistake and he was destroyed by drugs.

Prince wasn't ruined. He died. And he was amazing right up to the end.

DBW said:

I don't give a damn what they say, I still don't believe it was drugs. That is what they told us! That is what they want us to believe. Prince was not a drug user!!!!! I followed this man for years, never a hint of drug use, then all of a sudden he's dead and "it was drugs"! Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit!!!!!!!!!! I will take this to the grave with me.

MD431Madcat said:

NOT COOL!

Link: https://viraliq.com/12-ce...ed-drugs/2

We will start the list with a recent victim of an overdose, which is still fresh in our memories.

Prince is acclaimed as one of the most influential musicians of the last three decades, a period in which a lot of barriers fell.

Prince was praised for both singing and his stage performance. Many critics still have their hats raised in respect for Prince and his contribution to modern music.

Prince died of a drug overdose at his recording studio and home in Chanhassen, Minnesota, on April 21, 2016. Medical expertise revealed that intoxication with Fentanyl, a potent opioid analgesic, was the main factor to blame.

At the age of 57, Prince certainly would have had many successful years ahead of him.

Conspiracies R not the way 2 live Ur life. They R Immature!

Genesia said:

Prince wasn't ruined. He died. And he was amazing right up to the end.

leec1 said:

leadline said:

Nicely written, as I said, I am applying common sense. Likewise, you could not possibly know anything you have speculated either. But when applying common sense, that usually brings you closer to the truth.

I doubt that I will believe anything that is written by Tyka concerning Prince's death unless is substantiated by evidence: autopsy report, information from law enforcement.

What I have heard from her so far, just seems to be setting things up so you will want to buy her book- another way to make money......

Amen