I just wish MuleFunk would make up his mind. An assassination is a much to far reach IMO.
To fortuneandserendipity... I still think all the clothes found on him were backwards, Sounds might fishy to me. If one is panicky of about to crook I can see maybe getting one of the items on backwards but all of them,,,,hhhhmmmm!
I quote to you what someone has told me since April '16.
All four of Prince’s grandparents as well as his parents came from New Orleans. Like most American cities with robust African-American populations, Voodoo, Obeah and Santeria are practiced, even by professing Christians. Even if not a follower of ‘the practices’, the symbols and ceremonies would be well known to any black family in New Orleans.
In all three belief systems, wearing clothing backwards is a well-known mechanism for warding off the Devil, de-elevator, whom Prince believed in and sang about.
The world's problems like climate change can only be solved through strategic long-term thinking, not expediency. In other words all the govts. need sacking!
If you can add value to someone's life then why not. Especially if it colors their days...
laurarichardson said: Those are good Google definitions of the drugs, but off label uses for Clonodine is easing opiate withdrawal symptoms. This is the first line of help for someone wanting to go cold turkey. Suboxone is an opiate blocker and an opiate, starting down that road without dose reduction can make "Kicking" worse. Diazepam is also prescribed to help with withdrawal, but only for a few weeks at most to relieve anxiety. Usually Librium is prescribed for this because there's less chance of benzodiazepine addiction and it has a longer half life. It sounds like he was prescribing him pain pills and meds for withdrawal concurrently. Very odd.
This doctor was not an addiction specialist. I do not think he knew what the hell he was doing and unfortunalty unless Prince' sibs push this the doctor will get away with his incompotence. How does one prescribe pain pills for someone who is suppose to be withdrawing.
Suboxone is not going to be the best opiate blocker, because buprenorphine itself is an opiate. (buprenorphine works along only one of the mechanisms used by a typical opiate, as against 4 well established ones).
And naloxone isn't going to block that, or there would be no point in combining the two in a pill.
Dr S never prescribed suboxone and he isn't an addiction specialist. Which explains why someone from prince's camp reached out to Dr Kornfield, who is an addiction specialist. Suboxone long term isn't much good in enabling people to kick the habit, as it is very addictive itself, judging by multiple anecdotal reports.
Seems clear that someone in the camp, after the plane incident, wanted to address his issue and knew that intervention was needed. The reason Kornfeld was contacted and Flew out. I am thankful for whoever that was who finally saw fit to ignore, not yes-man prince. Whoever that person is I want to hug. Cause they were finally Loving prince they way he could have benefitted earlier. I know he may not have wanted it, but sorry P that is how love sometimes lands, not how you want it but how Your ass needs it. The person who contacted Kornfeld that is person(s) who bravely Said no more to the purple glow. And they would be the hero of this story sans 4/21. Imagine that persons heart, what it is carrying.
To fortuneandserendipity... I still think all the clothes found on him were backwards, Sounds might fishy to me. If one is panicky of about to crook I can see maybe getting one of the items on backwards but all of them,,,,hhhhmmmm!
I quote to you what someone has told me since April '16.
All four of Prince’s grandparents as well as his parents came from New Orleans. Like most American cities with robust African-American populations, Voodoo, Obeah and Santeria are practiced, even by professing Christians. Even if not a follower of ‘the practices’, the symbols and ceremonies would be well known to any black family in New Orleans.
In all three belief systems, wearing clothing backwards is a well-known mechanism for warding off the Devil, de-elevator, whom Prince believed in and sang about.
Well well interesting post you made, hhhmmm, So one could be walking around in his home with his clothes on backwards. And why would he need to ward off the Devil? When I read that part, it reminded me of this Orlando Brown interview at 8:50 ...
To fortuneandserendipity... I still think all the clothes found on him were backwards, Sounds might fishy to me. If one is panicky of about to crook I can see maybe getting one of the items on backwards but all of them,,,,hhhhmmmm!
I quote to you what someone has told me since April '16.
All four of Prince’s grandparents as well as his parents came from New Orleans. Like most American cities with robust African-American populations, Voodoo, Obeah and Santeria are practiced, even by professing Christians. Even if not a follower of ‘the practices’, the symbols and ceremonies would be well known to any black family in New Orleans.
In all three belief systems, wearing clothing backwards is a well-known mechanism for warding off the Devil, de-elevator, whom Prince believed in and sang about.
Well well interesting post you made, hhhmmm, So one could be walking around in his home with his clothes on backwards. And why would he need to ward off the Devil? When I read that part, it reminded me of this Orlando Brown interview at 8:50 ...
[Edited 11/28/17 12:08pm]
Whoa!!! My modern self doesn’t know what he is saying But in the far recesses of my most ancient self I kinda get it. I know that sounds weird.
To fortuneandserendipity... I still think all the clothes found on him were backwards, Sounds might fishy to me. If one is panicky of about to crook I can see maybe getting one of the items on backwards but all of them,,,,hhhhmmmm!
I quote to you what someone has told me since April '16.
All four of Prince’s grandparents as well as his parents came from New Orleans. Like most American cities with robust African-American populations, Voodoo, Obeah and Santeria are practiced, even by professing Christians. Even if not a follower of ‘the practices’, the symbols and ceremonies would be well known to any black family in New Orleans.
In all three belief systems, wearing clothing backwards is a well-known mechanism for warding off the Devil, de-elevator, whom Prince believed in and sang about.
is the wearing of clothes backwards a daily practice or only when you feel the devil near?
I quote to you what someone has told me since April '16.
All four of Prince’s grandparents as well as his parents came from New Orleans. Like most American cities with robust African-American populations, Voodoo, Obeah and Santeria are practiced, even by professing Christians. Even if not a follower of ‘the practices’, the symbols and ceremonies would be well known to any black family in New Orleans.
In all three belief systems, wearing clothing backwards is a well-known mechanism for warding off the Devil, de-elevator, whom Prince believed in and sang about.
is the wearing of clothes backwards a daily practice or only when you feel the devil near?
This is a PARTIAL quote from this essay which inadvertantly implies that Prince donned his clothes backwards as he was rattling around PP in fear for his life from outside sources.
The entire essay paints a TOTALLY different picture, IMO.
I quote to you what someone has told me since April '16.
All four of Prince’s grandparents as well as his parents came from New Orleans. Like most American cities with robust African-American populations, Voodoo, Obeah and Santeria are practiced, even by professing Christians. Even if not a follower of ‘the practices’, the symbols and ceremonies would be well known to any black family in New Orleans.
In all three belief systems, wearing clothing backwards is a well-known mechanism for warding off the Devil, de-elevator, whom Prince believed in and sang about.
is the wearing of clothes backwards a daily practice or only when you feel the devil near?
I wouldn't know. But bear in mind, in Africa as well as Central America there are amalgams of christianity and native beliefs (like Santa Muerte for instance), which no doubt come across as balderdash to many, and offensive if you practice christianity. By integrating two different belief systems, they end up doing some weird shit.
If quote above true, I see it as P sticking it up to JW faith. JWs are fundamentalists who dare not deviate from their faith. So what was P counting on?
The world's problems like climate change can only be solved through strategic long-term thinking, not expediency. In other words all the govts. need sacking!
If you can add value to someone's life then why not. Especially if it colors their days...
To fortuneandserendipity... I still think all the clothes found on him were backwards, Sounds might fishy to me. If one is panicky of about to crook I can see maybe getting one of the items on backwards but all of them,,,,hhhhmmmm!
I quote to you what someone has told me since April '16.
All four of Prince’s grandparents as well as his parents came from New Orleans. Like most American cities with robust African-American populations, Voodoo, Obeah and Santeria are practiced, even by professing Christians. Even if not a follower of ‘the practices’, the symbols and ceremonies would be well known to any black family in New Orleans.
In all three belief systems, wearing clothing backwards is a well-known mechanism for warding off the Devil, de-elevator, whom Prince believed in and sang about.
The eleavator was the vehicle that was taking him down to hell. You realize how sterotypical this is don't you?
This doctor was not an addiction specialist. I do not think he knew what the hell he was doing and unfortunalty unless Prince' sibs push this the doctor will get away with his incompotence. How does one prescribe pain pills for someone who is suppose to be withdrawing.
Suboxone is not going to be the best opiate blocker, because buprenorphine itself is an opiate. (buprenorphine works along only one of the mechanisms used by a typical opiate, as against 4 well established ones).
And naloxone isn't going to block that, or there would be no point in combining the two in a pill.
Dr S never prescribed suboxone and he isn't an addiction specialist. Which explains why someone from prince's camp reached out to Dr Kornfield, who is an addiction specialist. Suboxone long term isn't much good in enabling people to kick the habit, as it is very addictive itself, judging by multiple anecdotal reports.
Since Dr. S prescribed meds to Prince under Kirk's name it stands the reason that he might have prescribed suboxone or some other doctor did. I doubt Prince just started getting meds and medical attention under assumed an name in 2016.
Some suggested this combonation of drugs as Prince did not have a pill machine in Paisley Park.
I quote to you what someone has told me since April '16.
All four of Prince’s grandparents as well as his parents came from New Orleans. Like most American cities with robust African-American populations, Voodoo, Obeah and Santeria are practiced, even by professing Christians. Even if not a follower of ‘the practices’, the symbols and ceremonies would be well known to any black family in New Orleans.
In all three belief systems, wearing clothing backwards is a well-known mechanism for warding off the Devil, de-elevator, whom Prince believed in and sang about.
The eleavator was the vehicle that was taking him down to hell. You realize how sterotypical this is don't you?
Well, the lyric from Let's go crazy would suggest it's a vehicle for going up or down. Add to that the alleged backwards clothes and the fact he was found on the above floor, it all may point to deeper symbolism. Not forgetting, his parents and grandparents may have held such beliefs themselves, and what we pick up in childhood often carries on into adulthood.
The world's problems like climate change can only be solved through strategic long-term thinking, not expediency. In other words all the govts. need sacking!
If you can add value to someone's life then why not. Especially if it colors their days...
Suboxone is not going to be the best opiate blocker, because buprenorphine itself is an opiate. (buprenorphine works along only one of the mechanisms used by a typical opiate, as against 4 well established ones).
And naloxone isn't going to block that, or there would be no point in combining the two in a pill.
Dr S never prescribed suboxone and he isn't an addiction specialist. Which explains why someone from prince's camp reached out to Dr Kornfield, who is an addiction specialist. Suboxone long term isn't much good in enabling people to kick the habit, as it is very addictive itself, judging by multiple anecdotal reports.
Since Dr. S prescribed meds to Prince under Kirk's name it stands the reason that he might have prescribed suboxone or some other doctor did. I doubt Prince just started getting meds and medical attention under assumed an name in 2016.
Some suggested this combonation of drugs as Prince did not have a pill machine in Paisley Park.
Oxycodone prescribed under Kirk's name maybe, but there is no mention of Suboxone in connection with Dr. S.
The world's problems like climate change can only be solved through strategic long-term thinking, not expediency. In other words all the govts. need sacking!
If you can add value to someone's life then why not. Especially if it colors their days...
is the wearing of clothes backwards a daily practice or only when you feel the devil near?
This is a PARTIAL quote from this essay which inadvertantly implies that Prince donned his clothes backwards as he was rattling around PP in fear for his life from outside sources.
The entire essay paints a TOTALLY different picture, IMO.
is the wearing of clothes backwards a daily practice or only when you feel the devil near?
I wouldn't know. But bear in mind, in Africa as well as Central America there are amalgams of christianity and native beliefs (like Santa Muerte for instance), which no doubt come across as balderdash to many, and offensive if you practice christianity. By integrating two different belief systems, they end up doing some weird shit.
If quote above true, I see it as P sticking it up to JW faith. JWs are fundamentalists who dare not deviate from their faith. So what was P counting on?
yes and if that quote is true, then P's brand of beliefs/cookiness/spooky electric reasoning is not far from Orlando's, and i find that interesting. i say that of course making light and i don't know anything
The eleavator was the vehicle that was taking him down to hell. You realize how sterotypical this is don't you?
Well, the lyric from Let's go crazy would suggest it's a vehicle for going up or down. Add to that the alleged backwards clothes and the fact he was found on the above floor, it all may point to deeper symbolism. Not forgetting, his parents and grandparents may have held such beliefs themselves, and what we pick up in childhood often carries on into adulthood.
that is for sure!!! i have no issue if he held an amalgam of christian and symbolic beliefs i think that
combination was quite common in the AA upbringing. Remnants of pre christianty.
Suboxone is not going to be the best opiate blocker, because buprenorphine itself is an opiate. (buprenorphine works along only one of the mechanisms used by a typical opiate, as against 4 well established ones).
And naloxone isn't going to block that, or there would be no point in combining the two in a pill.
Dr S never prescribed suboxone and he isn't an addiction specialist. Which explains why someone from prince's camp reached out to Dr Kornfield, who is an addiction specialist. Suboxone long term isn't much good in enabling people to kick the habit, as it is very addictive itself, judging by multiple anecdotal reports.
Since Dr. S prescribed meds to Prince under Kirk's name it stands the reason that he might have prescribed suboxone or some other doctor did. I doubt Prince just started getting meds and medical attention under assumed an name in 2016.
Some suggested this combonation of drugs as Prince did not have a pill machine in Paisley Park.
Oxycodone prescribed under Kirk's name maybe, but there is no mention of Suboxone in connection with Dr. S.
That's because Dr. Schulenberg didn't have a DEA issued license to prescribe it. His medical specialty doesn't warrant it.
laurarichardson said: Those are good Google definitions of the drugs, but off label uses for Clonodine is easing opiate withdrawal symptoms. This is the first line of help for someone wanting to go cold turkey. Suboxone is an opiate blocker and an opiate, starting down that road without dose reduction can make "Kicking" worse. Diazepam is also prescribed to help with withdrawal, but only for a few weeks at most to relieve anxiety. Usually Librium is prescribed for this because there's less chance of benzodiazepine addiction and it has a longer half life. It sounds like he was prescribing him pain pills and meds for withdrawal concurrently. Very odd.
This doctor was not an addiction specialist. I do not think he knew what the hell he was doing and unfortunalty unless Prince' sibs push this the doctor will get away with his incompotence. How does one prescribe pain pills for someone who is suppose to be withdrawing.
Suboxone is not going to be the best opiate blocker, because buprenorphine itself is an opiate. (buprenorphine works along only one of the mechanisms used by a typical opiate, as against 4 well established ones).
And naloxone isn't going to block that, or there would be no point in combining the two in a pill.
Dr S never prescribed suboxone and he isn't an addiction specialist. Which explains why someone from prince's camp reached out to Dr Kornfield, who is an addiction specialist. Suboxone long term isn't much good in enabling people to kick the habit, as it is very addictive itself, judging by multiple anecdotal reports.
Suboxone/Subutex is considered the best when treating patient for moderate to severe opiate withdrawal and is used in almost all in-patient detox facilities. The dosage is monitored closely and adjusted based on symptoms and is not admistered until eight hours after the person last took opioids in any form.It is also used as "first aid" for a person in the midst of heavy withdrawal to stabilize him/her and that seemed to have been Dr Kornfeld's approach also.
Clonidine, benzos, beta blockers, antiemetics etc are SOP in conjunction with bubrenorphine.
If Prince was open to detox and rehab, he most likely would have been on bubrenorphine for a time being and then switched to naltrexone and method of pain management different from opiate medication.
Naloxone's only purpose is to counteract the effects of opiates hence keeping the person from dying from the overdose they suffered so not sure why that is even brought up. [Edited 11/28/17 16:10pm]
Suboxone is not going to be the best opiate blocker, because buprenorphine itself is an opiate. (buprenorphine works along only one of the mechanisms used by a typical opiate, as against 4 well established ones).
And naloxone isn't going to block that, or there would be no point in combining the two in a pill.
Dr S never prescribed suboxone and he isn't an addiction specialist. Which explains why someone from prince's camp reached out to Dr Kornfield, who is an addiction specialist. Suboxone long term isn't much good in enabling people to kick the habit, as it is very addictive itself, judging by multiple anecdotal reports.
Suboxone/Subutex is considered the best when treating patient for moderate to severe opiate withdrawal and is used in almost all in-patient detox facilities. The dosage is monitored closely and adjusted based on symptoms and is not admistered until eight hours after the person last took opioids in any form.It is also used as "first aid" for a person in the midst of heavy withdrawal to stabilize him/her and that seemed to have been Dr Kornfeld's approach also. Clonidine, benzos, beta blockers, antiemetics etc are SOP in conjunction with bubrenorphine. If Prince was open to detox and rehab, he most likely would have been on bubrenorphine for a time being and then switched to naltrexone and method of pain management different from opiate medication. Naloxone's only purpose is to counteract the effects of opiates hence keeping the person from dying from the overdose they suffered so not sure why that is even brought up. [Edited 11/28/17 16:10pm]
1) Suboxone was found at Paisley Park. We have no idea were it came from and Prince was not in a facilty on April 20th. He also died from an overdose of painkillers so obvisouly he was not admistered this stuff 8 hours after taking pain killers. I think you are missing the point. He was seeing a doctor who was not a addiction specialist and he was not a patient of Dr. K's in fact Andrew claimed his Dad did not even know about the meds that he brought to Paisley Park.
Since Dr. S prescribed meds to Prince under Kirk's name it stands the reason that he might have prescribed suboxone or some other doctor did. I doubt Prince just started getting meds and medical attention under assumed an name in 2016.
Some suggested this combonation of drugs as Prince did not have a pill machine in Paisley Park.
Oxycodone prescribed under Kirk's name maybe, but there is no mention of Suboxone in connection with Dr. S.
No we have no proof the Suboxone came from Dr. S but it was on the premises and it came from somewhere.
Suboxone/Subutex is considered the best when treating patient for moderate to severe opiate withdrawal and is used in almost all in-patient detox facilities. The dosage is monitored closely and adjusted based on symptoms and is not admistered until eight hours after the person last took opioids in any form.It is also used as "first aid" for a person in the midst of heavy withdrawal to stabilize him/her and that seemed to have been Dr Kornfeld's approach also. Clonidine, benzos, beta blockers, antiemetics etc are SOP in conjunction with bubrenorphine. If Prince was open to detox and rehab, he most likely would have been on bubrenorphine for a time being and then switched to naltrexone and method of pain management different from opiate medication. Naloxone's only purpose is to counteract the effects of opiates hence keeping the person from dying from the overdose they suffered so not sure why that is even brought up. [Edited 11/28/17 16:10pm]
Thanks Susu1976. Hope you're well girl
Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end
The eleavator was the vehicle that was taking him down to hell. You realize how sterotypical this is don't you?
Well, the lyric from Let's go crazy would suggest it's a vehicle for going up or down. Add to that the alleged backwards clothes and the fact he was found on the above floor, it all may point to deeper symbolism. Not forgetting, his parents and grandparents may have held such beliefs themselves, and what we pick up in childhood often carries on into adulthood.
no Prince said in a interview the elavator was to get away from the devil pulling you down. That we must try to punch to a higher floor to get away. The real question is /was he referecing the actual devil or was the devil just a code word for ( the entertainment world/secular vices)
As far as his parents or grandparents just because they were from Louisanna it does not mean they were into Voodoo. After all Jill Jones said that John was so freaked out by the cats in the musical CATS he wanted to leave in the middle of the show if he was into Voodoo I doubt the cat character would have freaked him out so much.
I know you were not. I am certainly not blaming you. Please don't take it that way.
Mule is entitled to SPECULATE. Unless we have the facts , the rest of it will be speculation. We are all doing it. The question is, who would want to end the speculation of one thing when you are speculating about the other?
Specifically, Who would want to come to one thread to purport ending the speculation of Prince dying accidentally or by suicide while simultaneously promoting that Prince's death was a MURDER/HIT/ASSASSINATION in another?
Who would equate Prince's death with the government discrediting Martin Luther King? Why would you even throw a universal pillar such as MLK in the conversation about Prince's death when you are speculating? Are we not deserving of an explanation? He does this every time he goes to a thread and never gives an explanation. This is why you see the heavy hand of reprisal. There is more but I'll wait. Here's your chance Mule. Man up, buddy.
Matter of fact, Mule, I will make a deal with you this very day. Take over the thread and explain your views on Prince's death. It doesn't matter if it fits with anything in the warrants at this point. Give us details about what you have been writing for over a year now. After all, your point of posting was to end the speculation in this thread because you have the "inside line". That sounds like facts to me. I will sit back and read and will NOT interrupt. Take a long as you need. When you're done, you know exactly how to find me. Menes, out.
All of the above is well documented here in my posts on the subject.
Feel free to read through them.
Now on the race issue.
Google COINTELPRO and please YouTube Darthard Perry's interview on how they disrupted movements and especially artists.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pCk1qc4JvI
Frankly I don't give two fucks about what anyone believes or don't believe but my information on this subject has been given to me by people in the field and what was told to me in April/May 2016 has been very accurate now in 2017. I can't reveal my sources in law enforecement or in the medical field but the information is out there.
It's mighty funny that all of these suicide theories came forward around the time the INFOmercials on the BBC came out.
Didn't mean to interrupt you, Mule. I just wanted to say that this is such a brilliant and profound explanation! It's just teeming with scientific data and analysis! It correlates well with the information in the warrants. What more can the people ask for? They are behaving like plebeians and you should ignore them. Who ever said you were fantastical, and inherently stuck in a time capsule, don't know the legendary status of, "da Mule".
You are the embodiment of Sherlock Holmes, Angela Lansbury and Perry Mason all in one neat package.
Heavy is the head that wears the crown . You Sir, are wearing the thistles of the crown of truth and you cannot be pierced by its ends. Like all real martyrs, you do this for the "cause", therefore , it is truth. . I salute you!
At your convenience , please elaborate on some of your finest points ever made in this forum with that post.
All of the above is well documented here in my posts on the subject.
Feel free to read through them.
Now on the race issue.
Google COINTELPRO and please YouTube Darthard Perry's interview on how they disrupted movements and especially artists.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pCk1qc4JvI
Frankly I don't give two fucks about what anyone believes or don't believe but my information on this subject has been given to me by people in the field and what was told to me in April/May 2016 has been very accurate now in 2017. I can't reveal my sources in law enforecement or in the medical field but the information is out there.
It's mighty funny that all of these suicide theories came forward around the time the INFOmercials on the BBC came out.
Didn't mean to interrupt you, Mule. I just wanted to say that this is such a brilliant and profound explanation! It's just teeming with scientific data and analysis! It correlates well with the information in the warrants. What more can the people ask for? They are behaving like plebeians and you should ignore them. Who ever said you were fantastical, and inherently stuck in a time capsule, don't know the legendary status of, "da Mule".
You are the embodiment of Sherlock Holmes, Angela Lansbury and Perry Mason all in one neat package.
Heavy is the head that wears the crown . You Sir, are wearing the thistles of the crown of truth and you cannot be pierced by its ends. Like all real martyrs, you do this for the "cause", therefore , it is truth. . I salute you!
At your convenience , please elaborate on some of your finest points ever made in this forum with that post.
Kind Regards,
Menes
[Edited 11/28/17 18:27pm]
Your snarky comments do not change a few facts.
1) This according to the police is an active homicide investigation.
2) The person(s) who furnished these drugs be it on purpose or accidental can go to prison on third degree murder charges.
3) Prince did not manufacture these pills with his pill machine in the bottom of Paisley Park and no one with a lick of sense in their head would think that he got pills from greasy dude on the corner.
He got those pills from someone who knew and someone he trusted. They either screwed up or did this on purpose.
4. No one in the history of the world has kept an O.D investigation open this long.
Didn't mean to interrupt you, Mule. I just wanted to say that this is such a brilliant and profound explanation! It's just teeming with scientific data and analysis! It correlates well with the information in the warrants. What more can the people ask for? They are behaving like plebeians and you should ignore them. Who ever said you were fantastical, and inherently stuck in a time capsule, don't know the legendary status of, "da Mule".
You are the embodiment of Sherlock Holmes, Angela Lansbury and Perry Mason all in one neat package.
Heavy is the head that wears the crown . You Sir, are wearing the thistles of the crown of truth and you cannot be pierced by its ends. Like all real martyrs, you do this for the "cause", therefore , it is truth. . I salute you!
At your convenience , please elaborate on some of your finest points ever made in this forum with that post.
Kind Regards,
Menes
[Edited 11/28/17 18:27pm]
Your snarky comments do not change a few facts.
1) This according to the police is an active homicide investigation.
2) The person(s) who furnished these drugs be it on purpose or accidental can go to prison on third degree murder charges.
3) Prince did not manufacture these pills with his pill machine in the bottom of Paisley Park and no one with a lick of sense in their head would think that he got pills from greasy dude on the corner.
He got those pills from someone who knew and someone he trusted. They either screwed up or did this on purpose.
4. No one in the history of the world has kept an O.D investigation open this long.
Welcome back , Laura! We missed you. Your sentences are much more structured, and your points , more coherent. Good for you! We need that when extracting scientific data and time lines from the warrants. Carry on.
Suboxone is not going to be the best opiate blocker, because buprenorphine itself is an opiate. (buprenorphine works along only one of the mechanisms used by a typical opiate, as against 4 well established ones).
And naloxone isn't going to block that, or there would be no point in combining the two in a pill.
Dr S never prescribed suboxone and he isn't an addiction specialist. Which explains why someone from prince's camp reached out to Dr Kornfield, who is an addiction specialist. Suboxone long term isn't much good in enabling people to kick the habit, as it is very addictive itself, judging by multiple anecdotal reports.
Suboxone/Subutex is considered the best when treating patient for moderate to severe opiate withdrawal and is used in almost all in-patient detox facilities. The dosage is monitored closely and adjusted based on symptoms and is not admistered until eight hours after the person last took opioids in any form.It is also used as "first aid" for a person in the midst of heavy withdrawal to stabilize him/her and that seemed to have been Dr Kornfeld's approach also. Clonidine, benzos, beta blockers, antiemetics etc are SOP in conjunction with bubrenorphine. If Prince was open to detox and rehab, he most likely would have been on bubrenorphine for a time being and then switched to naltrexone and method of pain management different from opiate medication. Naloxone's only purpose is to counteract the effects of opiates hence keeping the person from dying from the overdose they suffered so not sure why that is even brought up. [Edited 11/28/17 16:10pm]
1) Suboxone was found at Paisley Park. We have no idea were it came from and Prince was not in a facilty on April 20th. He also died from an overdose of painkillers so obvisouly he was not admistered this stuff 8 hours after taking pain killers. I think you are missing the point. He was seeing a doctor who was not a addiction specialist and he was not a patient of Dr. K's in fact Andrew claimed his Dad did not even know about the meds that he brought to Paisley Park.
Whole thing sounds like bad care for his issues.
I think YOU are the one missing the point here. What has April 20th have to do with the buprenorphine? Yes, buprenorphine was found at PP and a little bit of deductive reasoning and application of Occam's razor would conclude that it most likely was brought there by Dr Kornfeld's son. I CLEARLY wrote that buprenorphine will be administered when someone has been into withdrawals for at least eight hrs. Prince was not given it because by the time the son got there, he was dead. Do you not understand that the son is protecting his father as he clearly sent him there or did this addiction specialist's son in California have some magical powers to sense that Prince, a world famous musician, was in dire straits and just flew there unannounced and somehow gained access to PP? From the 911 call nobody claimed there was an intruder there also. They were expecting him. He simply got there too late. As I stated before, Dr. Schulenberg did not have the DEA issued license to prescribe buprenorphine. To try to manage someone who is dependent/addicted to any substance is a nightmare for a doctor and I'm sure he did the best he could with the limitations in place. There is already someone trying to discredit the ME in order to further their narrative of Prince's children with Cat. Because certainly the ME has a reason to lie about Prince's eye color. (*eye roll*) but not derailing this thread to the nonsense over there. Why everything has to be made so convoluted is beyond me. Some things are buzzling and we will never know everything but why purposely make things more complicated than they are? Shit, if the Org is to be believed, you better stay away from Minnesota. The medical professionals there are out to get you for no particular reason and even the ME, DEA, The Sheriff's department and the FBI are in on it. Hey Mumio! Doing well! Hope you are too!
The eleavator was the vehicle that was taking him down to hell. You realize how sterotypical this is don't you?
Well, the lyric from Let's go crazy would suggest it's a vehicle for going up or down. Add to that the alleged backwards clothes and the fact he was found on the above floor, it all may point to deeper symbolism. Not forgetting, his parents and grandparents may have held such beliefs themselves, and what we pick up in childhood often carries on into adulthood.
It has been said that you can't dance with the devil and not expect to get dipped. Touch it and it will touch you. Religious syncretism ( though not scientific) plays and inherent role in life and death choices.
1) Suboxone was found at Paisley Park. We have no idea were it came from and Prince was not in a facilty on April 20th. He also died from an overdose of painkillers so obvisouly he was not admistered this stuff 8 hours after taking pain killers. I think you are missing the point. He was seeing a doctor who was not a addiction specialist and he was not a patient of Dr. K's in fact Andrew claimed his Dad did not even know about the meds that he brought to Paisley Park.
Whole thing sounds like bad care for his issues.
Wasn't the Suboxone in Andrew K's bag, that he brought into PP?
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