206Michelle said:

Menes said:

1.There is a clear scientific role for impulsivity in suicide.

2. Leaving a"whisper of evidence" does not mean that the person could not have decided to end life at that moment.

3. The fact that pills were stashed everywhere could also mean that he is functioning as most addicts do.

4. Weaning , becasue 1/2 pills were found, may indicate he was aware that he was mentally dependent on said pills. Having 99 more at your disposal, says another.

And what's so bad about suicide? Culture.

When he died, his socks were inside-out and his pants and shirt were backwards. For him to be dressed like that was very un-Prince-like.

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Even if his days were numbered, as Tyka has said, he still had a little left in the tank. He a memoir that he was writing.

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I have no reason to doubt the conclusions of the cornoner and investigators who were there and saw the evidence. He is the most famous person from the state of Minnesota. There were news outlets and cameras outside of Paisley Park for weeks after his death. If the investigators did something wrong, I would have expected to hear about it in the media and/or from the family.

1. About the clothes on backwards and so forth... if we are going to use a"source" (STAR TRIBUNE) or any other "source" to substantiate what did or did not occur, I am fine with that. We will then have to use that same source/ other sources to support a lot of things. Such things would bring us back full circle to every single thread created about it. That picture could get rather dark and distressing ;as in:

2. If someone mentions Lidocaine what does that mean?

3. If someone mentions Percocet and Alprazolam, what does that mean?

4. If someone mentions what was happening at PP 6-9 months prior, what would that mean?

5. If someone mentions the layout @ PP and then decides to calculate the time it would take for him to get in the elevator vs the time it takes to overdose on what is considered the mode(s) of application and type of drug... (you might not want to hear the results).

These are just a few examples . I have no idea who may be implying that the investigators "did something wrong". I speak for myself in saying that after careful consideration , I personally decided not to bring certain things up , lest you recoil at what the outcome of the findings would be. It's best to not fly too close to the sun.



We can go there but it won't be pretty.

Menes said:

206Michelle said:

When he died, his socks were inside-out and his pants and shirt were backwards. For him to be dressed like that was very un-Prince-like.

.

Even if his days were numbered, as Tyka has said, he still had a little left in the tank. He a memoir that he was writing.

.

I have no reason to doubt the conclusions of the cornoner and investigators who were there and saw the evidence. He is the most famous person from the state of Minnesota. There were news outlets and cameras outside of Paisley Park for weeks after his death. If the investigators did something wrong, I would have expected to hear about it in the media and/or from the family.

1. About the clothes on backwards and so forth... if we are going to use a"source" (STAR TRIBUNE) or any other "source" to substantiate what did or did not occur, I am fine with that. We will then have to use that same source/ other sources to support a lot of things. Such things would bring us back full circle to every single thread created about it. That picture could get rather dark and distressing ;as in:

2. If someone mentions Lidocaine what does that mean?

3. If someone mentions Percocet and Alprazolam, what does that mean?

4. If someone mentions what was happening at PP 6-9 months prior, what would that mean?

5. If someone mentions the layout @ PP and then decides to calculate the time it would take for him to get in the elevator vs the time it takes to overdose on what is considered the mode(s) of application and type of drug... (you might not want to hear the results).

These are just a few examples . I have no idea who may be implying that the investigators "did something wrong". I speak for myself in saying that after careful consideration , I personally decided not to bring certain things up , lest you recoil at what the outcome of the findings would be. It's best to not fly too close to the sun.



We can go there but it won't be pretty.

Source for Prince wearing clothes on backwards and socks inside out and time of death:

Pills seized from Paisley Park contained illicit fentanyl, same drug that killed Prince

Link: http://www.startribune.co...390816101/

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As for the part of your response that I bolded, I don't understand what you are saying (and I'm not messing with you, I seriously don't understand what you are saying).

MENES...Can you please spell out clearly what you think happened

Im getting quite dizzy by your cryptic questions...??

ON Faith alone...I dont believe that Prince took himself out

apart from the fact that he wasnt dressed for it..

His faith prohibited it...and Im not talking about the rules and regulations imposed

from external forces and sources

Im talking about how when you have an extraordinairy faith in GOD

Faith that has been with you from the get go,

.... only increases as you age and mature

Such faith puts you in a mental and emotional state

where you virtually see yourself as a puppet in the hands of God

Taking your own life is out of the question,forget the stigmas and all the rest

WHen you are attached to God as Prince was

taking your own life

is like the ultimate insult

its like saying

I give up..I dont Trust you

I dont need you...Im checking out

We are not talking about some average Joe Blo, who,s

life was a miserable failure

we are talking about a man who Put God at the centre

of everything he did, even when he was exploring

illicit and what may be seen as Cardinal desires

When you have that

taking yourself out is unthinkable.

206Michelle said:

Menes said:

1. About the clothes on backwards and so forth... if we are going to use a"source" (STAR TRIBUNE) or any other "source" to substantiate what did or did not occur, I am fine with that. We will then have to use that same source/ other sources to support a lot of things. Such things would bring us back full circle to every single thread created about it. That picture could get rather dark and distressing ;as in:

2. If someone mentions Lidocaine what does that mean?

3. If someone mentions Percocet and Alprazolam, what does that mean?

4. If someone mentions what was happening at PP 6-9 months prior, what would that mean?

5. If someone mentions the layout @ PP and then decides to calculate the time it would take for him to get in the elevator vs the time it takes to overdose on what is considered the mode(s) of application and type of drug... (you might not want to hear the results).

These are just a few examples . I have no idea who may be implying that the investigators "did something wrong". I speak for myself in saying that after careful consideration , I personally decided not to bring certain things up , lest you recoil at what the outcome of the findings would be. It's best to not fly too close to the sun.



We can go there but it won't be pretty.

Source for Prince wearing clothes on backwards and socks inside out and time of death:

Pills seized from Paisley Park contained illicit fentanyl, same drug that killed Prince

Level of fentanyl found in musician's body was so great no one could have survived it.

By Stephen Montemayor Star Tribune

AUGUST 21, 2016 — 9:15PM

Link: http://www.startribune.co...390816101/

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As for the part of your response that I bolded, I don't understand what you are saying (and I'm not messing with you, I seriously don't understand what you are saying).

Oh, I didn't take it as you messing with me. We are cool and I find your points interesting.

I was merely stating that the article written by Stephen, came from a "source" and it mentions a lot more than just that of his clothes being on backwards. If we were to examine everything in that article , the clothes on backwards may not be the most telling bit of information one would want to extract.

I didn't want to re-litigate whether or not Prince was an addict , accidentally overdosed or committed suicide based on just one " source".

Here's an example and I'll leave it to you to decide if we are going "there":

Let's say you have determined that Prince was trying to wean himself off of something after the incident in Moline and that he simply had taken just a tiny bit too much for his " pain". You then read this article and find out that there was more than just fentanyl in his system. All along the drumbeat was fentanyl, then the warrants alerted us to the use of Hydrocodone. If you also believe this article, you now have (3) more drugs to consider. What does that mean?

If we are detailed, we research every single drug named from that "source", to include but not limited to; its properties,usage and more importantly, how long would said drug(s) stay in the body. Once you have all of that information , you compare that with the drugs stated in the warrant and a (7) day period (the time between the incident in Moline and the date he died). Based on the scientific analysis and math, the preponderance of the evidence does not support a person who is "weaning" or has commenced any form of self-rehabilitation. Rather, this " source" paints a much darker picture, a picture that requires you to unmask the true meaning of the incident .

It's not pretty. That's all I was saying.

[Edited 11/25/17 19:12pm]

Menes said:

So do you think moline was an accident or intentional?
And if accidental then that was the stimulus for impulsive
suicide?
He felt he was too addicted to get help? Is that the darkness or
Not pretty? Trying to understand.

I can resolve suicide in my mind, how ever the manner he chose it, if he was terminal or was chronic depressive. I can’t
Resolve it just because of an addiction
[Edited 11/25/17 19:43pm]
[Edited 11/25/17 19:45pm]

Lovejunky said:

MENES...Can you please spell out clearly what you think happened

Im getting quite dizzy by your cryptic questions...??

ON Faith alone...I dont believe that Prince took himself out

apart from the fact that he wasnt dressed for it..

His faith prohibited it...and Im not talking about the rules and regulations imposed

from external forces and sources

Im talking about how when you have an extraordinairy faith in GOD

Faith that has been with you from the get go,

.... only increases as you age and mature

Such faith puts you in a mental and emotional state

where you virtually see yourself as a puppet in the hands of God

Taking your own life is out of the question,forget the stigmas and all the rest

WHen you are attached to God as Prince was

taking your own life

is like the ultimate insult

its like saying

I give up..I dont Trust you

I dont need you...Im checking out

We are not talking about some average Joe Blo, who,s

life was a miserable failure

we are talking about a man who Put God at the centre

of everything he did, even when he was exploring

illicit and what may be seen as Cardinal desires

When you have that

taking yourself out is unthinkable.

I can appreciate the word ,"faith"; the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

It is science and math that told you that Prince is dead and how he died. It is best we use that bridge to cross over into reality.

You wrote that "taking your own life is out of the question when you are attached to God as Prince was". What if you were a tribe in the amazon that have a different perspective of life and death, would taking your own life be any different?

You wrote that "it's like saying I don't trust you, I don't need you , I'm checking out". Religion is concerned with morals but what of philosophy and ethics? Can a man be immoral yet ethical? Can you believe, have faith, yet treat people like crap? Can you believe, have faith, yet lie? Can you believe ,have faith, yet fornicate? Of course you can. People do it all the time. So who is distrusting to whom? Certainly God is not the author of confusion so why the need for such duplicity in a man who has knowledge of right and wrong? Do you believe he needed to read a book to understand the difference?

You wrote that" We are talking about a man who put God at the center of everything he did". So did Solomon, (according to the reading Prince adhered to). Sometimes it doesn't work out. We should acknowledge what things are done , not said.

You wrote that "taking yourself out is unthinkable". Never underestimate the power of free will.

The good thing is this: If one ever decides to channel that emotional state of being into "what you see is what you get", you can have a most wonderful appreciation for the man called, Prince.

purplefam99 said:

Menes said:

Oh, I didn't take it as you messing with me. We are cool and I find your points interesting.

I was merely stating that the article written by Stephen, came from a "source" and it mentions a lot more than just that of his clothes being on backwards. If we were to examine everything in that article , the clothes on backwards may not be the most telling bit of information one would want to extract.

I didn't want to re-litigate whether or not Prince was an addict , accidentally overdosed or committed suicide based on just one " source".

Here's an example and I'll leave it to you to decide if we are going "there":

Let's say you have determined that Prince was trying to wean himself off of something after the incident in Moline and that he simply had taken just a tiny bit too much for his " pain". You then read this article and find out that there was more than just fentanyl in his system. All along the drumbeat was fentanyl, then the warrants alerted us to the use of Hydrocodone. If you also believe this article, you now have (3) more drugs to consider. What does that mean?

If we are detailed, we research every single drug named from that "source", to include but not limited to; its properties,usage and more importantly, how long would said drug(s) stay in the body. Once you have all of that information , you compare that with the drugs stated in the warrant and a (7) day period (the time between the incident in Moline and the date he died). Based on the scientific analysis and math, the preponderance of the evidence does not support a person who is "weaning" or has commenced any form of self-rehabilitation. Rather, this " source" paints a much darker picture, a picture that requires you to unmask the true meaning of the incident .

It's not pretty. That's all I was saying.

[Edited 11/25/17 19:12pm]

So do you think moline was an accident or intentional? And if accidental then that was the stimulus for impulsive suicide? He felt he was too addicted to get help? Is that the darkness or Not pretty? Trying to understand. I can resolve suicide in my mind, how ever the manner he chose it, if he was terminal or was chronic depressive. I can’t Resolve it just because of an addiction [Edited 11/25/17 19:43pm] [Edited 11/25/17 19:45pm]

The question concerning the incident in Moline is two fold , hence the answer will be the same.

1. It was not an accident that Prince decided to ingest something after the show.

2. The amount that he took that caused him to overdose on the plane was accidental.

As to whether or not "he felt that he was too addicted to get help":

Addicts feel a range of emotions that are quite unpredictable. Everything is wired differently.

"Darkness" and "not pretty" are terms used to signify the gravity of the "sourced" information mentioned by Michelle once you decide to extract it.

I can understand that you cannot resolve it (suicide) because of addiction. The question is, do you believe that addicts can and do committ suicide?

Menes said:

Lovejunky said:

MENES...Can you please spell out clearly what you think happened

Im getting quite dizzy by your cryptic questions...??

ON Faith alone...I dont believe that Prince took himself out

apart from the fact that he wasnt dressed for it..

His faith prohibited it...and Im not talking about the rules and regulations imposed

from external forces and sources

Im talking about how when you have an extraordinairy faith in GOD

Faith that has been with you from the get go,

.... only increases as you age and mature

Such faith puts you in a mental and emotional state

where you virtually see yourself as a puppet in the hands of God

Taking your own life is out of the question,forget the stigmas and all the rest

WHen you are attached to God as Prince was

taking your own life

is like the ultimate insult

its like saying

I give up..I dont Trust you

I dont need you...Im checking out

We are not talking about some average Joe Blo, who,s

life was a miserable failure

we are talking about a man who Put God at the centre

of everything he did, even when he was exploring

illicit and what may be seen as Cardinal desires

When you have that

taking yourself out is unthinkable.

I can appreciate the word ,"faith"; the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

It is science and math that told you that Prince is dead and how he died. It is best we use that bridge to cross over into reality.

You wrote that "taking your own life is out of the question when you are attached to God as Prince was". What if you were a tribe in the amazon that have a different perspective of life and death, would taking your own life be any different?

You wrote that "it's like saying I don't trust you, I don't need you , I'm checking out". Religion is concerned with morals but what of philosophy and ethics? Can a man be immoral yet ethical? Can you believe, have faith, yet treat people like crap? Can you believe, have faith, yet lie? Can you believe ,have faith, yet fornicate? Of course you can. People do it all the time. So who is distrusting to whom? Certainly God is not the author of confusion so why the need for such duplicity in a man who has knowledge of right and wrong? Do you believe he needed to read a book to understand the difference?

You wrote that" We are talking about a man who put God at the center of everything he did". So did Solomon, (according to the reading Prince adhered to). Sometimes it doesn't work out. We should acknowledge what things are done , not said.

You wrote that "taking yourself out is unthinkable". Never underestimate the power of free will.

The good thing is this: If one ever decides to channel that emotional state of being into "what you see is what you get", you can have a most wonderful appreciation for the man called, Prince.

Hell YEAH!, and what we saw was wacky and wonderful, controversal and crazy-creative, beautiful, maddeningly mysterious, stubborn and serious, hard-working and hardly-human, all of it, give me the whole kinky kleidoscope of purple and puXXy, prayer and pretension, PP and Prince4Ever...Prince never limited himself, why should we limit ourselves in our appreciation of him? He did things HIS way...even until the end...RIP

Bodhitheblackdog said:

Menes said:

I can appreciate the word ,"faith"; the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

It is science and math that told you that Prince is dead and how he died. It is best we use that bridge to cross over into reality.

You wrote that "taking your own life is out of the question when you are attached to God as Prince was". What if you were a tribe in the amazon that have a different perspective of life and death, would taking your own life be any different?

You wrote that "it's like saying I don't trust you, I don't need you , I'm checking out". Religion is concerned with morals but what of philosophy and ethics? Can a man be immoral yet ethical? Can you believe, have faith, yet treat people like crap? Can you believe, have faith, yet lie? Can you believe ,have faith, yet fornicate? Of course you can. People do it all the time. So who is distrusting to whom? Certainly God is not the author of confusion so why the need for such duplicity in a man who has knowledge of right and wrong? Do you believe he needed to read a book to understand the difference?

You wrote that" We are talking about a man who put God at the center of everything he did". So did Solomon, (according to the reading Prince adhered to). Sometimes it doesn't work out. We should acknowledge what things are done , not said.

You wrote that "taking yourself out is unthinkable". Never underestimate the power of free will.

The good thing is this: If one ever decides to channel that emotional state of being into "what you see is what you get", you can have a most wonderful appreciation for the man called, Prince.

Hell YEAH!, and what we saw was wacky and wonderful, controversal and crazy-creative, beautiful, maddeningly mysterious, stubborn and serious, hard-working and hardly-human, all of it, give me the whole kinky kleidoscope of purple and puXXy, prayer and pretension, PP and Prince4Ever...Prince never limited himself, why should we limit ourselves in our appreciation of him? He did things HIS way...even until the end...RIP

Bod, that pretty much sums it up! Who else could pull off wearing a laced g-string, knee high boots that had ( 4) inch heels and a trench while women hurled panties with reckless abandon on stage? The man did this while simultaneously preaching about Jesus and salvation at the same show! This was history. If that wasn't enough, he would hit you with a massive dose of instrumentation played to perfection. As I watch some of his videos this very day, I can't seem to fast forward the clip, ever. Intoxicating is a truly an understatement.

Sex, religion ,music, drugs and death. The life or Prince. Everything in you, unleashed thru one man.I would auction off a few family members for next to nothing if I could go back in time and see one more concert live.

Nothing like it.

Menes said:

Lovejunky said:

MENES...Can you please spell out clearly what you think happened

Im getting quite dizzy by your cryptic questions...??

ON Faith alone...I dont believe that Prince took himself out

apart from the fact that he wasnt dressed for it..

His faith prohibited it...and Im not talking about the rules and regulations imposed

from external forces and sources

Im talking about how when you have an extraordinairy faith in GOD

Faith that has been with you from the get go,

.... only increases as you age and mature

Such faith puts you in a mental and emotional state

where you virtually see yourself as a puppet in the hands of God

Taking your own life is out of the question,forget the stigmas and all the rest

WHen you are attached to God as Prince was

taking your own life

is like the ultimate insult

its like saying

I give up..I dont Trust you

I dont need you...Im checking out

We are not talking about some average Joe Blo, who,s

life was a miserable failure

we are talking about a man who Put God at the centre

of everything he did, even when he was exploring

illicit and what may be seen as Cardinal desires

When you have that

taking yourself out is unthinkable.

I can appreciate the word ,"faith"; the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

It is science and math that told you that Prince is dead and how he died. It is best we use that bridge to cross over into reality.

You wrote that "taking your own life is out of the question when you are attached to God as Prince was". What if you were a tribe in the amazon that have a different perspective of life and death, would taking your own life be any different?

You wrote that "it's like saying I don't trust you, I don't need you , I'm checking out". Religion is concerned with morals but what of philosophy and ethics? Can a man be immoral yet ethical? Can you believe, have faith, yet treat people like crap? Can you believe, have faith, yet lie? Can you believe ,have faith, yet fornicate? Of course you can. People do it all the time. So who is distrusting to whom? Certainly God is not the author of confusion so why the need for such duplicity in a man who has knowledge of right and wrong? Do you believe he needed to read a book to understand the difference?

You wrote that" We are talking about a man who put God at the center of everything he did". So did Solomon, (according to the reading Prince adhered to). Sometimes it doesn't work out. We should acknowledge what things are done , not said.

You wrote that "taking yourself out is unthinkable". Never underestimate the power of free will.

The good thing is this: If one ever decides to channel that emotional state of being into "what you see is what you get", you can have a most wonderful appreciation for the man called, Prince.

exactly....

Free Will...do people understand what that is ?

We can either walk towards the Lord

or

Away from him...Thats the extent of it

at any time,

whatever decisions we make in our life

they are governed by our own free will

If we want to get scientific, and talk about synapses and all that stuff

a Person who is habituated to making decisions that take him closer to the Lord

well...

he would find it hard

if not impossible to do anything that would take him down the alternate road.

Prince might have been battling with a lot of issues

but his LOVE for God was Consistantly Strong

The search warrants have revealed a lot of confusing "evidence"

at this point in time,

there is still an ongoing Murder investigation thats being kept under wraps...

This means that whatever was found when they swabbed Princes hands and neck

routinely at the scene, well it gave investigators cause to believe

there was foul play of some kind.

At this point in time, we have been told that there were pills scattered all over the place

but has it ever been confirmed that those pills actually belonged to Prince ?

We DONT know...

we assume that they were his because they were in Paisley Park..

but despite raking through the google records no one seems to have been able to trace anything.

Prince could have obtained legal prescriptions for anything he needed

Its been discussed that he was worried about his privacy being compramised

yet there was a doctor on board who was sensative enough to jeopardise his own career

and write a script in Kirks name.

so here we are

full circle again..just as you predicted

Let me end the suicide speculation.

One thing when you see suicides is the method is going to be close by the person. If it was pills,for example, there would have been pills around the body along with something to drink by the body.

That wasn't found.

Secondly when they do autopsy they will find a number of pills undigested in the stomach. That wasn't found either. The other drugs found wasn't a factor as well after the toxicology report came back Fentanyl was found and not just Fentanyl it was the amount of Fentanyl found in his system.

I can't stress to you the alarm that went through DEA after this became known to them.

From my understanding the plane incident was a reaction from a percocet and cold medication. The toxicology report that there was no prior Fentanyl use before the fatal dose on April 20/21, 2016.

muleFunk said:

Let me end the suicide speculation.

One thing when you see suicides is the method is going to be close by the person. If it was pills,for example, there would have been pills around the body along with something to drink by the body.

That wasn't found.

Secondly when they do autopsy they will find a number of pills undigested in the stomach. That wasn't found either. The other drugs found wasn't a factor as well after the toxicology report came back Fentanyl was found and not just Fentanyl it was the amount of Fentanyl found in his system.

I can't stress to you the alarm that went through DEA after this became known to them.

From my understanding the plane incident was a reaction from a percocet and cold medication. The toxicology report that there was no prior Fentanyl use before the fatal dose on April 20/21, 2016.

do you know what a rectum is?

Bodhitheblackdog said:

muleFunk said:

Let me end the suicide speculation.

One thing when you see suicides is the method is going to be close by the person. If it was pills,for example, there would have been pills around the body along with something to drink by the body.

That wasn't found.

Secondly when they do autopsy they will find a number of pills undigested in the stomach. That wasn't found either. The other drugs found wasn't a factor as well after the toxicology report came back Fentanyl was found and not just Fentanyl it was the amount of Fentanyl found in his system.

I can't stress to you the alarm that went through DEA after this became known to them.

From my understanding the plane incident was a reaction from a percocet and cold medication. The toxicology report that there was no prior Fentanyl use before the fatal dose on April 20/21, 2016.

do you know what a rectum is?

None there either.

muleFunk said:

Let me end the suicide speculation.

One thing when you see suicides is the method is going to be close by the person. If it was pills,for example, there would have been pills around the body along with something to drink by the body.

That wasn't found.

Secondly when they do autopsy they will find a number of pills undigested in the stomach. That wasn't found either. The other drugs found wasn't a factor as well after the toxicology report came back Fentanyl was found and not just Fentanyl it was the amount of Fentanyl found in his system.

I can't stress to you the alarm that went through DEA after this became known to them.

From my understanding the plane incident was a reaction from a percocet and cold medication. The toxicology report that there was no prior Fentanyl use before the fatal dose on April 20/21, 2016.

Everything you have stated above is speculation.

Unless of course you have an inside line to the Moline Hospital Staff, Carver County Medical Examiner, Carver County Sheriff Detectives, and the DEA.

If you dont have an inside line, then you are merely speculating.

muleFunk said:

Let me end the suicide speculation.

One thing when you see suicides is the method is going to be close by the person. If it was pills,for example, there would have been pills around the body along with something to drink by the body.

That wasn't found.

Secondly when they do autopsy they will find a number of pills undigested in the stomach. That wasn't found either. The other drugs found wasn't a factor as well after the toxicology report came back Fentanyl was found and not just Fentanyl it was the amount of Fentanyl found in his system.

I can't stress to you the alarm that went through DEA after this became known to them.

From my understanding the plane incident was a reaction from a percocet and cold medication. The toxicology report that there was no prior Fentanyl use before the fatal dose on April 20/21, 2016.

Good points.

MuleFunk has an inside line.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

muleFunk said:

Let me end the suicide speculation.

One thing when you see suicides is the method is going to be close by the person. If it was pills,for example, there would have been pills around the body along with something to drink by the body.

That wasn't found.

Secondly when they do autopsy they will find a number of pills undigested in the stomach. That wasn't found either. The other drugs found wasn't a factor as well after the toxicology report came back Fentanyl was found and not just Fentanyl it was the amount of Fentanyl found in his system.

I can't stress to you the alarm that went through DEA after this became known to them.

From my understanding the plane incident was a reaction from a percocet and cold medication. The toxicology report that there was no prior Fentanyl use before the fatal dose on April 20/21, 2016.

Everything you have stated above is speculation.

Unless of course you have an inside line to the Moline Hospital Staff, Carver County Medical Examiner, Carver County Sheriff Detectives, and the DEA.

If you dont have an inside line, then you are merely speculating.

muleFunk said:

Let me end the suicide speculation.

One thing when you see suicides is the method is going to be close by the person. If it was pills,for example, there would have been pills around the body along with something to drink by the body.

That wasn't found.

Secondly when they do autopsy they will find a number of pills undigested in the stomach. That wasn't found either. The other drugs found wasn't a factor as well after the toxicology report came back Fentanyl was found and not just Fentanyl it was the amount of Fentanyl found in his system.

I can't stress to you the alarm that went through DEA after this became known to them.

From my understanding the plane incident was a reaction from a percocet and cold medication. The toxicology report that there was no prior Fentanyl use before the fatal dose on April 20/21, 2016.

Thank you....

muleFunk said:

Let me end the suicide speculation.

One thing when you see suicides is the method is going to be close by the person. If it was pills,for example, there would have been pills around the body along with something to drink by the body.

That wasn't found.

Secondly when they do autopsy they will find a number of pills undigested in the stomach. That wasn't found either. The other drugs found wasn't a factor as well after the toxicology report came back Fentanyl was found and not just Fentanyl it was the amount of Fentanyl found in his system.

I can't stress to you the alarm that went through DEA after this became known to them.

From my understanding the plane incident was a reaction from a percocet and cold medication. The toxicology report that there was no prior Fentanyl use before the fatal dose on April 20/21, 2016.

How profound.

1. Mule says " When you see suicides is the method is going to be close by the person" . For the record , I have used Google translate, Babbel, Duo lingo, Berlitz, , Rosetta stone, and none of these were able to decipher what the sentence means.

2. When did you see the autopsy report? Please share a link with us. We have been dying to see it.

3. Who in the DEA told you an "alarm" went through the agency after this became known to them? You are aware that the "alarm" started years before his death?

4.From your understanding the plane incident was a reaction to Percocet and cold medication? Did your source speak to the doctor/ hospital staff in Moline? Is this the same source that told you he had Myloid Leukemia since 2004/05 ? Oh , yes, yes , I get it. The cold medicine was part of the self administered leukemia treatment.

5. Where in the "toxicology" report did you read that there was no prior fentanyl use before the fatal dose? Do you have a full toxicology report for us to see , Sir? Scratch that. You probably calculated fentanyl redistribution postmortem. I forgot that your agency has a full time forensic lab attached to it. I thought I recognized that tent. Impressive.

6. Mule states that it was a HIT/MURDER/ASSASSINATION because Prince was the only musical voice left that would stand up for "black" people against Trump and the uber right. Yes, yes, of course it was. The uber right knew that Trump would win in APRIL 2016. This was their only chance to silence a "black" man. I get it now. Even though President Obama was in office at the time of Prince's death, Prince was a much richer target.

Yes, Prince, the most feared political opponent of the uber right. It was a most fitting explanation for their hate . I mean , they must have looked at his voting record and saw a pattern. After all, Prince marched, Prince went to jail, Prince's hair got blasted with water cannons, German Shepherds had ripped his high heels off at one point in Selma . It just goes on and on. This was a legendary fight. The Uber right vs. the "black" revolutionary called < Prince.

In closing , I do have to state that there is one thing you've established with that post.

Menes said:

muleFunk said:

Let me end the suicide speculation.

One thing when you see suicides is the method is going to be close by the person. If it was pills,for example, there would have been pills around the body along with something to drink by the body.

That wasn't found.

Secondly when they do autopsy they will find a number of pills undigested in the stomach. That wasn't found either. The other drugs found wasn't a factor as well after the toxicology report came back Fentanyl was found and not just Fentanyl it was the amount of Fentanyl found in his system.

I can't stress to you the alarm that went through DEA after this became known to them.

From my understanding the plane incident was a reaction from a percocet and cold medication. The toxicology report that there was no prior Fentanyl use before the fatal dose on April 20/21, 2016.

How profound.

1. Mule says " When you see suicides is the method is going to be close by the person" . For the record , I have used Google translate, Babbel, Duo lingo, Berlitz, , Rosetta stone, and none of these were able to decipher what the sentence means.

2. When did you see the autopsy report? Please share a link with us. We have been dying to see it.

3. Who in the DEA told you an "alarm" went through the agency after this became known to them? You are aware that the "alarm" started years before his death?

4.From your understanding the plane incident was a reaction to Percocet and cold medication? Did your source speak to the doctor/ hospital staff in Moline? Is this the same source that told you he had Myloid Leukemia since 2004/05 ? Oh , yes, yes , I get it. The cold medicine was part of the self administered leukemia treatment.

5. Where in the "toxicology" report did you read that there was no prior fentanyl use before the fatal dose? Do you have a full toxicology report for us to see , Sir? Scratch that. You probably calculated fentanyl redistribution postmortem. I forgot that your agency has a full time forensic lab attached to it. I thought I recognized that tent. Impressive.

6. Mule states that it was a HIT/MURDER/ASSASSINATION because Prince was the only musical voice left that would stand up for "black" people against Trump and the uber right. Yes, yes, of course it was. The uber right knew that Trump would win in APRIL 2016. This was their only chance to silence a "black" man. I get it now. Even though President Obama was in office at the time of Prince's death, Prince was a much richer target.

Yes, Prince, the most feared political opponent of the uber right. It was a most fitting explanation for their hate . I mean , they must have looked at his voting record and saw a pattern. After all, Prince marched, Prince went to jail, Prince's hair got blasted with water cannons, German Shepherds had ripped his high heels off at one point in Selma . It just goes on and on. This was a legendary fight. The Uber right vs. the "black" revolutionary called < Prince.

In closing , I do have to state that there is one thing you've established with that post.

OMFG: If I had underpants on now, I would have peed in them...

Menes said:

muleFunk said:

Let me end the suicide speculation.

One thing when you see suicides is the method is going to be close by the person. If it was pills,for example, there would have been pills around the body along with something to drink by the body.

That wasn't found.

Secondly when they do autopsy they will find a number of pills undigested in the stomach. That wasn't found either. The other drugs found wasn't a factor as well after the toxicology report came back Fentanyl was found and not just Fentanyl it was the amount of Fentanyl found in his system.

I can't stress to you the alarm that went through DEA after this became known to them.

From my understanding the plane incident was a reaction from a percocet and cold medication. The toxicology report that there was no prior Fentanyl use before the fatal dose on April 20/21, 2016.

How profound.

1. Mule says " When you see suicides is the method is going to be close by the person" . For the record , I have used Google translate, Babbel, Duo lingo, Berlitz, , Rosetta stone, and none of these were able to decipher what the sentence means.

2. When did you see the autopsy report? Please share a link with us. We have been dying to see it.

3. Who in the DEA told you an "alarm" went through the agency after this became known to them? You are aware that the "alarm" started years before his death?

4.From your understanding the plane incident was a reaction to Percocet and cold medication? Did your source speak to the doctor/ hospital staff in Moline? Is this the same source that told you he had Myloid Leukemia since 2004/05 ? Oh , yes, yes , I get it. The cold medicine was part of the self administered leukemia treatment.

5. Where in the "toxicology" report did you read that there was no prior fentanyl use before the fatal dose? Do you have a full toxicology report for us to see , Sir? Scratch that. You probably calculated fentanyl redistribution postmortem. I forgot that your agency has a full time forensic lab attached to it. I thought I recognized that tent. Impressive.

6. Mule states that it was a HIT/MURDER/ASSASSINATION because Prince was the only musical voice left that would stand up for "black" people against Trump and the uber right. Yes, yes, of course it was. The uber right knew that Trump would win in APRIL 2016. This was their only chance to silence a "black" man. I get it now. Even though President Obama was in office at the time of Prince's death, Prince was a much richer target.

Yes, Prince, the most feared political opponent of the uber right. It was a most fitting explanation for their hate . I mean , they must have looked at his voting record and saw a pattern. After all, Prince marched, Prince went to jail, Prince's hair got blasted with water cannons, German Shepherds had ripped his high heels off at one point in Selma . It just goes on and on. This was a legendary fight. The Uber right vs. the "black" revolutionary called < Prince.

In closing , I do have to state that there is one thing you've established with that post.

^^ All of Mule's points are too easy to refute, based on simple absence of evidence.

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fortuneandserendipity said:

Menes said:

How profound.

1. Mule says " When you see suicides is the method is going to be close by the person" . For the record , I have used Google translate, Babbel, Duo lingo, Berlitz, , Rosetta stone, and none of these were able to decipher what the sentence means.

2. When did you see the autopsy report? Please share a link with us. We have been dying to see it.

3. Who in the DEA told you an "alarm" went through the agency after this became known to them? You are aware that the "alarm" started years before his death?

4.From your understanding the plane incident was a reaction to Percocet and cold medication? Did your source speak to the doctor/ hospital staff in Moline? Is this the same source that told you he had Myloid Leukemia since 2004/05 ? Oh , yes, yes , I get it. The cold medicine was part of the self administered leukemia treatment.

5. Where in the "toxicology" report did you read that there was no prior fentanyl use before the fatal dose? Do you have a full toxicology report for us to see , Sir? Scratch that. You probably calculated fentanyl redistribution postmortem. I forgot that your agency has a full time forensic lab attached to it. I thought I recognized that tent. Impressive.

6. Mule states that it was a HIT/MURDER/ASSASSINATION because Prince was the only musical voice left that would stand up for "black" people against Trump and the uber right. Yes, yes, of course it was. The uber right knew that Trump would win in APRIL 2016. This was their only chance to silence a "black" man. I get it now. Even though President Obama was in office at the time of Prince's death, Prince was a much richer target.

Yes, Prince, the most feared political opponent of the uber right. It was a most fitting explanation for their hate . I mean , they must have looked at his voting record and saw a pattern. After all, Prince marched, Prince went to jail, Prince's hair got blasted with water cannons, German Shepherds had ripped his high heels off at one point in Selma . It just goes on and on. This was a legendary fight. The Uber right vs. the "black" revolutionary called < Prince.

In closing , I do have to state that there is one thing you've established with that post.

^^ All of Mule's points are too easy to refute, based on simple absence of evidence. See, when it's this easy even laurarichardson will not be bothered to chime in with her response.

Unless you mention Prince and drugs in the same sentence...

You could drive a truck right through it. Speaking of the honorable LauraRichardson( of the LR Group), what have you people done with her? Has she been put out to pasture?

Menes said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

^^ All of Mule's points are too easy to refute, based on simple absence of evidence. See, when it's this easy even laurarichardson will not be bothered to chime in with her response.

Unless you mention Prince and drugs in the same sentence...

You could drive a truck right through it. Speaking of the honorable LauraRichardson( of the LR Group), what have you people done with her? Has she been put out to pasture?

From your mouth to Gods' ear.

Menes said:

Awwww man Menes, I liked when you were all zero tolerance on Snarkiness in your posts. The absence of jabs was enduring and refreshing that one could make their points without it. Oh well. Your run was great! And again thx for the research
And thought you put into your posts.

purplefam99 said:

Menes said:

You could drive a truck right through it. Speaking of the honorable LauraRichardson( of the LR Group), what have you people done with her? Has she been put out to pasture?

Awwww man Menes, I liked when you were all zero tolerance on Snarkiness in your posts. The absence of jabs was enduring and refreshing that one could make their points without it. Oh well. Your run was great! And again thx for the research And thought you put into your posts.

The level of snark eminating from Menes is de minimus; the equivalent of a tiny-teensy rounding error. Carry on...

Bodhitheblackdog said:

I applauded their efforts in both arenas.
Carry on indeed!
Thoughts about Mulefunks rebuttal regarding the rectum? Assuming the inside line.
[Edited 11/26/17 19:57pm]

purplefam99 said:

Menes said:

You could drive a truck right through it. Speaking of the honorable LauraRichardson( of the LR Group), what have you people done with her? Has she been put out to pasture?

Awwww man Menes, I liked when you were all zero tolerance on Snarkiness in your posts. The absence of jabs was enduring and refreshing that one could make their points without it. Oh well. Your run was great! And again thx for the research And thought you put into your posts.

I am going to assume that you understand what Mulefunk is doing.

Mule, has been injecting a very nasty racial component to any and all threads that is in regards to Prince's death. He spews a highly toxic and speculative opinion , yet never provides the members with any amount of verifiable research, documentation or investigative tools to support such a toxic claim.


Nothing is off limits, but with such a highly charged claim , you should be man enough to put the evidence on the table. If you are not willing to do this, you are race baiting.

He continues to make the claim that accidental death/ suicide, are merely speculation because he has a "source " that says Prince was assassinated. He purports that the assassination took place because of his defense of "black" people against Trump and the uber right . I am hoping that you understand the implication of an assassination.

Using race (and now politics), to usurp the hard work most members who are interested in finding out what happened to Prince are doing, should be met with absolute vigor . He offers nothing of value in determining what may have happened , nor does he contribute any of his said "sources " for us to examine. He is in fact, redefining , speculation.

Do you know how long he has been doing this? Maybe you can reason with him and find out who assassinated Prince and get us the whole back story. We have asked for it in hundreds of post.

The only people that I know who have an appreciation for race baiting, are racist themselves.Division is its sole purpose. That division sows the seeds of hatred , which in turn, leads to death. The death of innocent people .

I don't know what you mean by "your run was great". I do know what research is. I will continue to do that.

Menes said:

No I didnt know Mulefunks race baiting history.
Just was saying your absence of snark( until the LR bit) was
Commendable most people can’t have a “run/ stream of thoughts” like that without
Inserting snark about 4 pages in. It was a side note that would have been
A passing comment and chuckle if made in person. No foul, resume play.
[Edited 11/26/17 20:24pm]

Race baiting? Thats not what I took away from muleFunks post.

Sorry folks, I'm just sick of every thread turning it around to race. WTH?

I seriously don't know how race plays a role in Prince's death.........

PennyPurple said:

Race baiting? Thats not what I took away from muleFunks post.

Sorry folks, I'm just sick of every thread turning it around to race. WTH?

I seriously don't know how race plays a role in Prince's death.........

i was unclear why race was brought up as well in response to my post. I thought i had missed

something perhaps.

That's the first time I heard that and it's definitely bullshit.....

Menes said:

purplefam99 said:

Menes said: Awwww man Menes, I liked when you were all zero tolerance on Snarkiness in your posts. The absence of jabs was enduring and refreshing that one could make their points without it. Oh well. Your run was great! And again thx for the research And thought you put into your posts.

I am going to assume that you understand what Mulefunk is doing.

Mule, has been injecting a very nasty racial component to any and all threads that is in regards to Prince's death. He spews a highly toxic and speculative opinion , yet never provides the members with any amount of verifiable research, documentation or investigative tools to support such a toxic claim.


Nothing is off limits, but with such a highly charged claim , you should be man enough to put the evidence on the table. If you are not willing to do this, you are race baiting.

He continues to make the claim that accidental death/ suicide, are merely speculation because he has a "source " that says Prince was assassinated. He purports that the assassination took place because of his defense of "black" people against Trump and the uber right . I am hoping that you understand the implication of an assassination.

Using race (and now politics), to usurp the hard work most members who are interested in finding out what happened to Prince are doing, should be met with absolute vigor . He offers nothing of value in determining what may have happened , nor does he contribute any of his said "sources " for us to examine. He is in fact, redefining , speculation.

Do you know how long he has been doing this? Maybe you can reason with him and find out who assassinated Prince and get us the whole back story. We have asked for it in hundreds of post.

The only people that I know who have an appreciation for race baiting, are racist themselves.Division is its sole purpose. That division sows the seeds of hatred , which in turn, leads to death. The death of innocent people .

I don't know what you mean by "your run was great". I do know what research is. I will continue to do that.