sonshine said:

laurarichardson said:

I do not think it was bogus. Remember a Subxone pill was found by the police and the meds he was prescribed by Dr. S can be used for withdrawal. I still say he had consulted with Dr. S or some other doctor under some assumed name before trying to withdraw.

I do not think KJ was lying and I still think he may have been in a hurry to withdraw due to organ damage or some other health issue.

He cannot be a raging pill head to some of you and not have had it have any effect on his health at all. It is not possible. I also think he had beat it enough to travel but something changed the week of 7th when he canceled the Atlanta show.

I cannot see Prince telling at least two people he was not a 100% and he had to check back with his doctor and putting concerts on hold if he was just suffering from withdrawals or addiction and had managed to travel as far as he did in the last months of his life.

It does not make any sense at all.

I don't believe he was a raging pill head. People using opiates can be quite functional over a long period of time. It seems for whatever reasons Prince's opiate use took a dangerous turn and coping with those issues without the strict supervision of medical professionals is not wise. We will probably never learn all the how's and why's. But i understand and accept that it did happen. When you play with fire you get burned. He shouldn't have bern trying to work when these things obviously reached a crisis level. He should have taken care of himself first and foremost. The incident in Moline was his chance to do that. He should have immediately sought further help and stopped everything else he was doing at that point.

Sonshine, I totally agree. Prince should have stopped touring and tended to his health issues...but he didn't stop and tend, and as result, he died. The question is, WHY? WHY did he refuse to stop touring? Why did he refuse to tend to his health issues?

206Michelle said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

PennyPurple said:

Morgaine said:

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

The article goes on to say that it took 3 doses of Narcan to revive him.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/ohio-police-officer-accidentally-overdoses-fentanyl-article-1.3170821

An Ohio police officer has returned to work after an accidental fentanyl overdose sidelined him for days.

East Liverpool police officer Chris Green had just made a drug arrest when he returned to the police station and another officer noticed something on his shirt.

“He brushes it off, thinks nothing of it and then a few minutes later he passes out,” Chief John Lane told the Daily News.

As it turned out, the substance on his shirt was a small dose of fentanyl — a powerful synthetic opioid five times as strong as heroin that can get into the body through contact with the skin.

New York daily news is a Tabloid they would have no way of knowing anything due to Hippa. In fact the ambulance bill was published and everything accept the cost of the ride was blacked out.

What? I'm talking about the Police Officer in OHIO. The officer in OHIO, gave an interview. I'm not talking about Prince. Maybe you need to learn to read, like you tell everybody else.

laurarichardson said:

206Michelle said:

Sonshine, I totally agree. Prince should have stopped touring and tended to his health issues...but he didn't stop and tend, and as result, he died. The question is, WHY? WHY did he refuse to stop touring? Why did he refuse to tend to his health issues?

—Because I believe he had other health issues other then pain pills problems. This was his farewell tour.

I used the term "health issues" because I agree with you that he had health issues underlying the painkiller use. And I understand it was his "farewell tour," but good grief, he couldn't take a break for even a week?

laurarichardson said:

NotACleverName said:

laurarichardson said:

You do not know what avenues he took to recovery or if it was even neccesary something you keep ingnoring.

Nor do you. You continue to ignore ALL the information presented within search warrants, acknowledgements that allude to long term dependency from friends/associates/ex wives, the FACT he suffered an od one week prior to death that point to a continuous struggle with pain medication. You project your opinion as though it is truth. It is not. You can continue to speculate on organ damage, cancer and other ailments and I can, and will, add whatever I believe to be relevant to the conversation.

Thank you for this bold, logical, dignified post brimming with truth.

Bodhitheblackdog said:

206Michelle said:

sonshine said:

laurarichardson said: I don't believe he was a raging pill head. People using opiates can be quite functional over a long period of time. It seems for whatever reasons Prince's opiate use took a dangerous turn and coping with those issues without the strict supervision of medical professionals is not wise. We will probably never learn all the how's and why's. But i understand and accept that it did happen. When you play with fire you get burned. He shouldn't have bern trying to work when these things obviously reached a crisis level. He should have taken care of himself first and foremost. The incident in Moline was his chance to do that. He should have immediately sought further help and stopped everything else he was doing at that point.

Sonshine, I totally agree. Prince should have stopped touring and tended to his health issues...but he didn't stop and tend, and as result, he died. The question is, WHY? WHY did he refuse to stop touring? Why did he refuse to tend to his health issues?

We're talking about stuff more potent than heroin here. No matter how much you realize you're in deep shit,
you're still gonna need your dose. And "need" in this case is without a doubt a feeling most of us will never experience, godforbid.
It's not like "Oh, I got the flu, I need some paracetamol".

If we're allowed to speak of human frailties, I have this purple suspicion Prince was not comfortable with his ageing.
I'm not saying it was a motivation for suicide. I'm saying it was one extra reason to pop his little pill (Lawd I loathe this song even more now).

bonatoc said:

206Michelle said:

Sonshine, I totally agree. Prince should have stopped touring and tended to his health issues...but he didn't stop and tend, and as result, he died. The question is, WHY? WHY did he refuse to stop touring? Why did he refuse to tend to his health issues?

We're talking about stuff more potent than heroin here. No matter how much you realize you're in deep shit,
you're still gonna need your dose. And "need" in this case is without a doubt a feeling most of us will never experience, godforbid.
It's not like "Oh, I got the flu, I need some paracetamol".

If we're allowed to speak of human frailties, I have this purple suspicion Prince was not comfortable with his ageing.
I'm not saying it was a motivation for suicide. I'm saying it was one extra reason to pop his little pill (Lawd I loathe this song even more now).

NotACleverName said:

laurarichardson said:

You do not know what avenues he took to recovery or if it was even neccesary something you keep ingnoring.

Nor do you. You continue to ignore ALL the information presented within search warrants, acknowledgements that allude to long term dependency from friends/associates/ex wives, the FACT he suffered an od one week prior to death that point to a continuous struggle with pain medication. You project your opinion as though it is truth. It is not. You can continue to speculate on organ damage, cancer and other ailments and I can, and will, add whatever I believe to be relevant to the conversation.

I'm not convinced that he was using Oxycodone or morphine for 15 to 20 years on a daily or regular basis. Over the last 2 to 3 years of his life, yes, the evidence is clear that he was using painkillers regularly. I could believe that he used painkillers intermittently over 15 to 20 years, but not regularly or daily. I'm not an expert on opioids, but from what I'm reading, Oxycodone and morphine are both highly addictive.

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If he had been using opioids daily for 15 to 20 years, why didn't Mayte see him taking them regularly in the late 90s? She only recounted a couple of specific incidents when she observed the effects of him taking some pills. She wrote in her book that she didn't see him taking pills or painkillers ever, and that the possible drug-induced incidents were few and far between. She was there, so until someone can prove otherwise, I have to take her at her word.

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I'm not trying to be in denial about him using his opioid use. I'm not trying to convince myself that he was drug-free. I just can't see how he could use opioids for 15 to 20 years on a daily/regular basis without detection or withdrawals or going to rehab.

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If I see evidence to prove me wrong, then I will be the first to admit that I am wrong about my prediction. However, based on the evidence available right now, I cannot conclude that he was using or dependent upon Oxycodone or morphine regulary/daily for 20 years.

206Michelle said:

NotACleverName said:

laurarichardson said:

You do not know what avenues he took to recovery or if it was even neccesary something you keep ingnoring.

Nor do you. You continue to ignore ALL the information presented within search warrants, acknowledgements that allude to long term dependency from friends/associates/ex wives, the FACT he suffered an od one week prior to death that point to a continuous struggle with pain medication. You project your opinion as though it is truth. It is not. You can continue to speculate on organ damage, cancer and other ailments and I can, and will, add whatever I believe to be relevant to the conversation.

I have not ignored anything in the search warrants. I never said Prince was not struggling with these drugs. I just will never believed he was addicted to these drugs for 30 -20 years and when I say addicted I mean abusinging them not using them in a controlled manner for a medical problem.

None of his friends/associates/ex wives have said anything about a long term dependency. What we have been hearing from the very beginning is that no one saw him using drugs and "we do not know the whole story" Even Elisha is not really telling us anything with any detail and when I last looked 2010 was around the time he had surgery. Don't people get pain meds after having surgery? Would it not be possible that Prince had continuing issues after that surgery?

Would he have run up a 65k in legal medical expenes for purchasing illegal drugs? I am not so sure someone should be labled an addict when they actually have pain. What would you do if you were in pain? The thing is we do not know what his medical issues were but we have some clues that they exsisted and when you discount that you are blantly ignoring information that does not fit the narrative that you want.

You can believe what you want but do not make up shit ( not one associate has said anything about a long running dependency nor said they saw him abuse drugs ) and do not ignore facts ( 65k in medical expenses which appear on an accounting sheet). I am not going to not comment on it so maybe you need to get use to it.

206Michelle said:

NotACleverName said:

laurarichardson said: Nor do you. You continue to ignore ALL the information presented within search warrants, acknowledgements that allude to long term dependency from friends/associates/ex wives, the FACT he suffered an od one week prior to death that point to a continuous struggle with pain medication. You project your opinion as though it is truth. It is not. You can continue to speculate on organ damage, cancer and other ailments and I can, and will, add whatever I believe to be relevant to the conversation.

I'm not convinced that he was using Oxycodone or morphine for 15 to 20 years on a daily or regular basis. Over the last 2 to 3 years of his life, yes, the evidence is clear that he was using painkillers regularly. I could believe that he used painkillers intermittently over 15 to 20 years, but not regularly or daily. I'm not an expert on opioids, but from what I'm reading, Oxycodone and morphine are both highly addictive.

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If he had been using opioids daily for 15 to 20 years, why didn't Mayte see him taking them regularly in the late 90s? She only recounted a couple of specific incidents when she observed the effects of him taking some pills. She wrote in her book that she didn't see him taking pills or painkillers ever, and that the possible drug-induced incidents were few and far between. She was there, so until someone can prove otherwise, I have to take her at her word.

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I'm not trying to be in denial about him using his opioid use. I'm not trying to convince myself that he was drug-free. I just can't see how he could use opioids for 15 to 20 years on a daily/regular basis without detection or withdrawals or going to rehab.

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If I see evidence to prove me wrong, then I will be the first to admit that I am wrong about my prediction. However, based on the evidence available right now, I cannot conclude that he was using or dependent upon Oxycodone or morphine regulary/daily for 20 years.

Co-sign. Where is the evidence?

laurarichardson said:

good grief ... what happened to the FACTS this thread wanted to be about?

bonatoc said:

NotACleverName said:

laurarichardson said:

I have not ignored anything in the search warrants. I never said Prince was not struggling with these drugs. I just will never believed he was addicted to these drugs for 30 -20 years and when I say addicted I mean abusinging them not using them in a controlled manner for a medical problem. None of his friends/associates/ex wives have said anything about a long term dependency. What we have been hearing from the very beginning is that no one saw him using drugs and "we do not know the whole story" Even Elisha is not really telling us anything with any detail and when I last looked 2010 was around the time he had surgery. Don't people get pain meds after having surgery? Would it not be possible that Prince had continuing issues after that surgery? Would he have run up a 65k in legal medical expenes for purchasing illegal drugs? I am not so sure someone should be labled an addict when they actually have pain. What would you do if you were in pain? The thing is we do not know what his medical issues were but we have some clues that they exsisted and when you discount that you are blantly ignoring information that does not fit the narrative that you want. You can believe what you want but do not make up shit ( not one associate has said anything about a long running dependency nor said they saw him abuse drugs ) and do not ignore facts ( 65k in medical expenses which appear on an accounting sheet). I am not going to not comment on it so maybe you need to get use to it.

You have and continue to do so. Also, you have completely ignored what I posted in #553. Since you so conveniently ignored my response, I will refresh your memory so you can fully grasp what I said (most likely a futile effort but I'm going to do it anyway). NOWHERE DID I SAY HE WAS A LONG TERM DAILY USER....NO WHERE. Now that this has been cleared up, yes, he did use these meds off and on for years. You can choose not to believe it. Unfortunately, refusing to believe does not make it go away. As for your question "what would I do if I were in pain?". Well, again, another sign you pick and choose what to absorb so I will refresh your memory....I am, in fact, a long term user of these meds. I have detailed many, many times my chronic pain issues and what this stems from. However, upon sharing my personal story in one particular thread topic, I was labeled an "addict". Yes, indeed, a member of this board judged me so, believe me when I say, I get people's biased, uninformed bs on a personal level. To refresh your memory, visit this thread http://prince.org/msg/7/449209 and reread your comment (reply #13 second paragraph).... "We have no means of knowing any of this so what we have is people on this board with childhood trama and drug issues projecting their problems on to Prince without knowing the facts." and tell me how f'ng sensitive you are to people's chronic pain issues. Furthermore, you, nor I, know what the 65k is for but, this is what you do. You latch onto some info and repeat it over and over and over and over hoping it will stick. Applying it to your narrative and demanding everyone accept it. Your last paragraph proclaims I misstate facts. I did not. Refer back to my response you ignored.

[Edited 11/22/17 5:45am]

Let me make some things clear for you.

1) I did not say you said you he was a long term user but in my opinion your post imply it. What I am telling you is what I believe. I do not give a flying fig about what you believe. Your comments show a disbelief about illness he may have had thus implying that he had none and that his problems were that of an addict someone taking pills for grins and giggles. This is how you come across to me.

2) There is not one piece of evidence to show that he was abusing these meds for years and by years I mean 20 to 30. Not one bit. Not one single solid person has said they saw him take drugs or high. We only have Elisha speaking about an incident which would have happened after he had surgery. Don’t people have pain meds after they have surgery and more in likely that is when his problems started. You realize that estates cannot sue for defamation. People are free to say he was high as hell and swinging from the chandeliers and trust me the tabs would pay big bucks for those stories. I am sorry but some of this is common sense. I am sorry you do not think a line item on a form that is for taxes that states “recent medical illness” does not mean what it states. 65k is not on that sheet for illegal drugs, an ambulance ride or Narcan. I cannot help you with this one.

3) I also never ignored what was in the search warrants I just look at the whole situation and I do not chalk a 57 year old’s life up to a week or the months before he died as the be all.

4) If you have chronic pain issues then you of all people should have some damm compassion and understanding. I do not see any of this in your posts. I am sorry if you are offended but I see projection on the part of many people on this board not just you. Everybody’s situation is different and you cannot condemn someone as a drug addict if you have no idea what their pain level was or what health issues they are dealing with. I am sorry your post are all about how, when and what drugs he took without questioning why?

5) I have arthritis in my back so I take the scoffing of someone’s pain and their reasons for using meds to be pretty dam insensitive. Considering what we know about doctors over prescribing these meds and in some cases, being the supplier of these meds to people who are already addicted I think these facts should be taken into consideration. We have no idea what advice concerning these meds he was giving in the first place. Dr. S giving him pain meds under Kirk’s name while knowing he was struggling should have sent Dr. S to jail and really let people see that a certain aspect to Prince’s care was poor but we do not get any of that on this board. All we get is babbling about drug addiction and total ignoring of other facts that do not fit the narrative that some of you are stuck on.

Chris "Doctor D." Worthy

What if there isn't an afterlife?

laurarichardson said:

NotACleverName said:

laurarichardson said:

Let me make some things clear for you. 1)I did not say you said you he was a long term user but in my opinion your post imply it. What I am telling you is what I believe. I do not give a flying fig about what you believe. Your comments show a disbelief about illness he may have had thus implying that he had none and that his problems were that of an addict someone taking pills for grins and giggles. This is how you come across to me.2)There is not one piece of evidence to show that he was abusing these meds for years and by years I mean 20 to 30. Not one bit. Not one single solid person has said they saw him take drugs or high. We only have Elisha speaking about an incident which would have happened after he had surgery. Don’t people have pain meds after they have surgery and more in likely that is when his problems started. You realize that estates cannot sue for defamation. People are free to say he was high as hell and swinging from the chandeliers and trust me the tabs would pay big bucks for those stories. I am sorry but some of this is common sense. I am sorry you do not think a line item on a form that is for taxes that states “recent medical illness” does not mean what it states. 65k is not on that sheet for illegal drugs, an ambulance ride or Narcan. I cannot help you with this one. 3) I also never ignored what was in the search warrants I just look at the whole situation and I do not chalk a 57 year old’s life up to a week or the months before he died as the be all. 4)If you have chronic pain issues then you of all people should have some damm compassion and understanding. I do not see any of this in your posts. I am sorry if you are offended but I see projection on the part of many people on this board not just you. Everybody’s situation is different and you cannot condemn someone as a drug addict if you have no idea what their pain level was or what health issues they are dealing with. I am sorry your post are all about how, when and what drugs he took without questioning why?5) I have arthritis in my back so I take the scoffing of someone’s pain and their reasons for using meds to be pretty dam insensitive. Considering what we know about doctors over prescribing these meds and in some cases, being the supplier of these meds to people who are already addicted I think these facts should be taken into consideration.We have no idea what advice concerning these meds he was giving in the first place. Dr. S giving him pain meds under Kirk’s name while knowing he was struggling should have sent Dr. S to jail and really let people see that a certain aspect to Prince’s care was poor but we do not get any of that on this board. All we get is babbling about drug addiction and total ignoring of other facts that do not fit the narrative that some of you are stuck on.

Get out of your own head (where all your judgmental bias lives) and really focus, because you need to understand something....I have never, ever, EVER said that I thought Prince was taking pain meds for recreation. Never. THAT IS YOUR INTERPRETATION. That is what you infer. ALL the time. That is one of your many mantras (and believe me, I have read them ALL numerous times....shits and giggles, high off his ass, can't sue for defamation and it goes on and on...sound familiar?). I believe there was a very real NEED. Do you understand? Frankly, a lot of people should be offended by your comment that "there are people on this board with drug issues". That is a clear representation of your innate character and your intolerance. And that bleeds into every single one of your posts.

She accuses me of saying the same, likewise others on here. People were alleging that P was taking stuff for bone pain, and she somehow equates that to P using the same drugs recreationally. Some weird kind of contraption or something, that tricks people into meaning something different than what they actually said L O L

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NotACleverName said:

laurarichardson said:

Let me make some things clear for you. 1)I did not say you said you he was a long term user but in my opinion your post imply it. What I am telling you is what I believe. I do not give a flying fig about what you believe. Your comments show a disbelief about illness he may have had thus implying that he had none and that his problems were that of an addict someone taking pills for grins and giggles. This is how you come across to me.2)There is not one piece of evidence to show that he was abusing these meds for years and by years I mean 20 to 30. Not one bit. Not one single solid person has said they saw him take drugs or high. We only have Elisha speaking about an incident which would have happened after he had surgery. Don’t people have pain meds after they have surgery and more in likely that is when his problems started. You realize that estates cannot sue for defamation. People are free to say he was high as hell and swinging from the chandeliers and trust me the tabs would pay big bucks for those stories. I am sorry but some of this is common sense. I am sorry you do not think a line item on a form that is for taxes that states “recent medical illness” does not mean what it states. 65k is not on that sheet for illegal drugs, an ambulance ride or Narcan. I cannot help you with this one. 3) I also never ignored what was in the search warrants I just look at the whole situation and I do not chalk a 57 year old’s life up to a week or the months before he died as the be all. 4)If you have chronic pain issues then you of all people should have some damm compassion and understanding. I do not see any of this in your posts. I am sorry if you are offended but I see projection on the part of many people on this board not just you. Everybody’s situation is different and you cannot condemn someone as a drug addict if you have no idea what their pain level was or what health issues they are dealing with. I am sorry your post are all about how, when and what drugs he took without questioning why?5) I have arthritis in my back so I take the scoffing of someone’s pain and their reasons for using meds to be pretty dam insensitive. Considering what we know about doctors over prescribing these meds and in some cases, being the supplier of these meds to people who are already addicted I think these facts should be taken into consideration.We have no idea what advice concerning these meds he was giving in the first place. Dr. S giving him pain meds under Kirk’s name while knowing he was struggling should have sent Dr. S to jail and really let people see that a certain aspect to Prince’s care was poor but we do not get any of that on this board. All we get is babbling about drug addiction and total ignoring of other facts that do not fit the narrative that some of you are stuck on.

Get out of your own head (where all your judgmental bias lives) and really focus, because you need to understand something....I have never, ever, EVER said that I thought Prince was taking pain meds for recreation. Never. THAT IS YOUR INTERPRETATION. That is what you infer. ALL the time. That is one of your many mantras (and believe me, I have read them ALL numerous times....shits and giggles, high off his ass, can't sue for defamation and it goes on and on...sound familiar?). I believe there was a very real NEED. Do you understand? Frankly, a lot of people should be offended by your comment that "there are people on this board with drug issues". That is a clear representation of your innate character and your intolerance. And that bleeds into every single one of your posts.

It is difficult, noble and critically important to stand up to bullies, the ignorant, those lacking in compassion and those who promote intolerance. I feel so honored to have been able to read your thoughtful, mature comments on this particular thread. You are not alone.

lemoncrush19 said:

good grief ... what happened to the FACTS this thread wanted to be about?

The what? Speak louder.

More search warrant(s) facts and tidbits.

1. Seven (7) days after Prince was deceased , a warrant was issued on April 27th, 2016. In that warrant, all of the controlled substances that were found were mentioned in the warrant. Fentanyl and Percocet were not mentioned. < This should be examined a bit closer.

2. On April 21st 2016 , several warrants were issued:

a. Per the warrants , Andrew Kornfeld's inventory list is mentioned. On the list are several pills of note. The list is as followed:


N2- "orange" pill known as Suboxone sublingual.

54411- Subutex/ sublingual

457- Chloropromazine

* These are the pills that Andrew had in his backpack. Of note, some of the counterfeit illicit pills that were found at Paisley Park ,are the same as were taken into custody from Andrew Kornfeld's backpack. Further, Dr. Schulenberg prescribed pills that were similar in nature for Prince to pick up at Walgreens. That would mean that Dr. Schulenberg was aware that Prince was going thru withdrawals.

3. On May 25th 2016, (warrant filed in June), the preliminary autopsy report detected the presence of controlled substances in Prince's system. There is no mention of fentanyl as of yet.

4. On June 8th , 2016 ( warrant filed in June) : Investigators learned that on April 15, 2016, The doctor(in Moline) documented Prince as suffering from opiate overdose. Kirk Johnson informed hospital staff that Prince had taken Percocet. This is the first time that percocet was mentioned. No percocets were ever found or taken into custody from Paisley Park in the warrants.

a. Kirk Johnson mentions that Dr. Schulenberg was treating Prince for hip pain. Dr. Schulenberg practices family medicine . Questions arise as to why a family practitioner would be treating Prince for hip pain.

b. On April 20th, 2016, Kirk Johnson went to pick up Prince's prescription from Walgreens. The list of pills are as followed:

c: Clonidine, Hydroxizine Pamoate, Diazepam. As mentioned, these prescribed drugs are used to counteract similarly when opiate use/withdrawals is suspected. It may not comprise of the only reason these drugs are used but we have no indication to think otherwise at this time. (Compare these with the drugs taken into custody from Andrew Kornfeld's backpack).

5. On April 21st, 2016 (day Prince was found deceased) a suitcase with the name tag "Peter Bravestrong" was found next to Prince's bed. Inside the suitcase were prescription pill bottles in the name of Kirk Johnson, not Prince . There were some errors made in my original posting about what was found inside each bottle. After closer examination, here are the corrections which may be of interest:

a. The most glaring error was the Vitamin D bottle. That Vitamin D bottle was prescribed to Kirk Johnson and not Prince. This bottle was found to contain Ondansetron Hydrochloride. Why is this important? Well, pill 194 is vitamin D /50,000 USP and not a controlled substance. This was found at Paislsey Park but not in the bottle labeled vitamin D that was prescribed to kirk. This tells me that the "vitamin D" bottle found in that suitcase was an elaborate way of disguising the use of ilicit narcotics that may appear legitimate.

b. A second prescription bottle (said to contain Ondansetron) contained oxycodone hydrocloride.

c. According to both of those pill bottles , they were prescribed to Kirk Johnson on April 7th ,2016 by Dr. Schulenberg.

d. This is a significant correction because it we couple the correction with the fact that Kirk Johnson also had a prescription for Prince ( Oxycodone) placed in his name, it would mean that the illicit pills that were found in that suitcase were merely a counter copy of the legitimate prescribed medication that Kirk had in the first place. Further, if we examine the timeline (from his travels) these would more than likely be the same set of pills he traveled to Atlanta with and remained in the suitcase. IMO, either Prince used Kirk Johnson as a test rabbit , (as in have a legitimate cover and eventually got his own) or, Kirk realized that Prince needed to have a cover since Prince was using illicit controlled substances.

Morgaine said:

Menes said:

September 19th, 2016 warrant:

Toggle down to the paragraph beginning with : On Monday , 05-09-16 ( ME call)



The paragraph after that indicates that" the investigation into Prince's death began focusing on where Prince obtained the fentanyl and controlled narcotic prescription medication located in his bedroom the day of his death and who gave it to him".

They already knew where the Oxycodone prescription came from because Dr Schulenberg's statement on 4-21-2016 told them so. There would be no need to confirm the same information .

1. Is the statement saying that this medication is the same one or another medication?

2. Is the statement saying that the fentanyl is separate from the medication that was found in the bedroom?

3. Is the statement saying that the medication and the fentanyl are one?

The officsl report that it was an accidental overdose combined with, iirc, the surety the fentanyl was self administered and the toxicity of fentanyl has caused me to wonder whether the route if administration was something other than pills such as a suppository. Statements such as those made by the chef(s) seem to support at least the possibility.

It could very well be. The statement in the warrant seems to indicate that the fentanyl and the controlled narcotic prescription medication are not one of the same.It's not clear. The one prescription medication he had from Dr. Schulenberg (Oxycodone) is accounted for. The only other pills that I could think of that may have contained fentanyl were the watson 853's . Based upon all of the reports I have seen , the Watson 853 counterfeit pill is not usually associated with fentanyl toxicity and overdose. He must have been quite the unlucky chap to get one bad pill of watson 853's laced with fentanyl as opposed to all of the other addicts in Minnesota who neither overdosed on 853's or purchased 853's thereafter in order to chase the Prince high.

I believe that this illusive "pill" was already ingested or possibly taken as a suppository and is wholly separate from anything that was taken into custody.

There is one other possibility which has nothing to do with the warrants:

An unholy chemtrail was sent by Time Warner in conjunction with central governments worldwide to rid this world of such a dangerous revolutionary. This blasphemous vapor descended unto Paisley Park in the dread of night in the form of "the man". As Prince wrestled with this agent of death, he sent out the darling nikki backwards voice code in order to secretly summon revolutionary comrades who had fought "the man" in the first age. These are mighty men. Men of renown. On sensing that his spiritual comrades were tied up with pinning down Richard Nixon for an answer on Freddy Grays death, he tore up his will, strategic counterattack plans, spacetime travel vouchers, and swallowed all of the pieces. A sentry that was traveling with the chemtrail agent saw what Prince had done and forced his hand down Prince's throat to retrieve said documents. In place of the document , a fentanyl pill was forcibly inserted down the hatch while Prince was forced to watch an old vhs tape of him getting married to Mayte and Manuela. With shredded documents in hand, 'the man' , in one last act of unprecedented deception, hurriedly dressed Prince in all black ( gotta throw the brotherhood off) and laid him to rest in the elevator . Mulefunk chp.1

bonatoc said:

I believe Prince had an on and off relationship with opioids for a long time. I also believe that he has managed to beat the problem on his own several times over the years.

We know Prince suffered pain over the years. We know that he had some sort of surgery on one of his hips. We know there has been an oportunity in the past to become dependent on strong pain killers after either a serious injury or surgery. We also know Prince was very private to the point of fear that anyone should find out his business. It therefore isn't a stretch to believe Prince self medicated his way through these periods of pain and used shady sources to obtain the meds. And seeing how KJ was involved in helping Prince get meds this time around, it also isnt a stretch to believe they have done this together before.

Which brings me to the facts and tidbits of the warrants. The pills found seem to be a hodgepodge of mislabelled meds placed in various bottles to disguise them. Hiding pills in vitamin bottles isn't surprising, but having so many differing varieties is. He would have had his preferred pill that he took so why would he have so many different brands and types scattered around? My theory is that his pill of choice was not available and so he was trying different types which were not providing a) the relief he needed and b) the ability to function normally after taking them.

What is the significsance of the Watson 853's and 385's? Well, it could just be a typo by someone along the line or it could be that Prince wanted the older discontinued pill because that was what he had used before and successfully weaned himself off with several years ago. Being discontinued perhaps he sought out something similar and presumed 853's were it? Perhaps not finding his pill of choice he was experimenting with other types looking for that same relief?

If there is anything we know about Prince, whatever pills he was taking he would not want them to intefere with his ability to function. He would have wanted a pill that dulled the pain but kept his drive intact. Juggling different pills looking for the one that brings the best relief, yet none of them succeeding is bound to send the user in a downward spiral. Which may also explain the severe withdrawals Prince was allegedly going through. The pills were either too strong or the side affects too severe that he tried to cut them out. Unfortunately, the grip they had on him at this point was simply too strong to quit, even after trying to halve his dosages by cutting pills up.

If this is true then not only was he juggling with pills that had side affects he did not know about, he was also juggling with dosages. Where he may have popped two pills in the past that gave the right amount of relief, only half of another kind of pill would be required to do the same. If he took two of that pill, then it could lead to an OD on, say, an aeroplane flying back from a concert.

I dont think he was a pill head, I think he was in search of a pill that gave the right amount of relief without the side affects and high that many people attribute to these pills. Unfortunately, he was pill shopping on the streets and gambling with unknown brands and chemical makeups.