rogifan said:

morningsong said:

So one benefits PP and the other the Estate.

Isn’t PP part of the estate?

I don't know anymore. I just have feelings. But I'm assuming the funds raised for PP are for whatever PP needs, isn't there a hotel to plan? And what is for the Estate is for whatever improves the Estate which I'm guessing includes NPG Music. Then NPG Music I think is it's own thing also so to keep from beating around the bush further, the Estate is the family I'm assuming at this point.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Speaking of UMG: I am in a fan group (non-Prince group) on Facebook for a specific band. The administrator of the group was sanctioned by FB because she posted an unofficial video which had the band's music in it - UMG had FB take her down for several days. They do not play around.

1Sasha said:

Speaking of UMG: I am in a fan group (non-Prince group) on Facebook for a specific band. The administrator of the group was sanctioned by FB because she posted an unofficial video which had the band's music in it - UMG had FB take her down for several days. They do not play around.

Well it is good to see they are doing their job. If they do not do anything they would be violating their agreement as the admin.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

nelcp777 said:

But would that constitute breach of contract?

Nelcp I dont think there is a contract in place any longer.

Wow, what a mess. I say that, cos then Londell and Koppleman got a commision for nothing. That is my opinion.

rogifan said:

Why can’t Prince Estate do something like this? Start out with all released music and then add live performances and vault material over time?

Neil Young (@Neilyoung) 12/1/17, 5:32 PM We developed this site, neilyoungarchives.com, to provide fans & music historians with access to all of my music and to my entire archives in one location. The site allows me to share with the world the material I’ve spent a lifetime creating and collecting. I hope you enjoy it

So simple really isnt it ?

Lovejunky said:

It could be that simple, but are they still trying to determine who owns what? Also, could it be that the primary motivation is money? Neil Young might give it away, but the Prince estate needs cash and the heirs want cash.

1Sasha said:

rogifan said:

1Sasha said:

It could be that simple, but are they still trying to determine who owns what? Also, could it be that the primary motivation is money? Neil Young might give it away, but the Prince estate needs cash and the heirs want cash.

It shouldn’t be given away. But honestly how hard could it be to get a site up and running where this music can be purchased? If I can purchase on iTunes and Tidal why can’t I purchase on prince.com?

It is not that hard. I hope when the family takes over they do set up a Prince.com and start selling stuff. I just think Comerica is not interested in running a music/merchandise website.

1Sasha said:

https://www.facebook.com/...mp;fref=nf

The Estate recently approved a license for the NPG to perform as NPG New Power Generation.

I hope this means they can now do concerts in the US!

Lovejunky said:

rogifan said:

Why can’t Prince Estate do something like this? Start out with all released music and then add live performances and vault material over time?

So simple really isnt it ?

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Prince had plenty of fans who could have done such a thing. Instead he gave the jobs to incompetent fuckwits who dazzled him with glossy BS, while attacking those fans who'd always been more professional thna he himself. He attacked Uptown while putting his official seal on a lame fan mag that had entire pages filed with Egyptian mythology. And then that fan mag ripped off its subscribers.

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Go back to the earliest days of the NPGMC and you'll see knowledgable people telling Prince to abandon the craptastic QuickTime app and stop with the pretentious nonsense and the increasingly illegible Princebonics and instead deliver an easy to use website and quality encodes of audio and video.

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Back in the days of the CB debacle people were pointing out that an amateur online shop run by their mother selling homemade stuff was run more professionally than 1-800-New-Funk.

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Meanwhile it's 2017 and the estate still hasn't figured out a way to ship books outside the USA.

BartVanHemelen said:

Lovejunky said:

So simple really isnt it ?

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Prince had plenty of fans who could have done such a thing. Instead he gave the jobs to incompetent fuckwits who dazzled him with glossy BS, while attacking those fans who'd always been more professional thna he himself. He attacked Uptown while putting his official seal on a lame fan mag that had entire pages filed with Egyptian mythology. And then that fan mag ripped off its subscribers.

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Go back to the earliest days of the NPGMC and you'll see knowledgable people telling Prince to abandon the craptastic QuickTime app and stop with the pretentious nonsense and the increasingly illegible Princebonics and instead deliver an easy to use website and quality encodes of audio and video.

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Back in the days of the CB debacle people were pointing out that an amateur online shop run by their mother selling homemade stuff was run more professionally than 1-800-New-Funk.

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Meanwhile it's 2017 and the estate still hasn't figured out a way to ship books outside the USA.

The estate (Comerica) is not running Paisley Park. Graceland is managing it and I think they know how to ship they just do not want to. They do not know what sort of fanbase Prince had outside of the states and all corporations do have a certain amount of a learning curve to get over when taking over a property.

Give it sometime and as much as you bitch about Prince and the people he hired I sure hope you tried to apply for the job.

Also their is an interview with a Jakie Thompson a young lady who worked on CB and she explains exactly what happend with the shipping and also explains how many of those CBs were distrubuted and paid for. Prince made money off of that project and at the end of the day that is what matters when running a business something that seems lost on someone who champions bootleggers.

https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?fr=yhs-adk-adk_sbnt&hsimp=yhs-adk_sbnt&hspart=adk&p=princepodcast#id=3&vid=fc906bc1bb60e9c947c676091930b051&action=click

There is some sort of entertainment business transaction that Comerica wants to enter into and SNJ are objecting to the transaction. There are numerous pages of heavily redacted documents filed including an Affidavit from Troy Carter.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

There is some sort of entertainment business transaction that Comerica wants to enter into and SNJ are objecting to the transaction. There are numerous pages of heavily redacted documents filed including an Affidavit from Troy Carter.

What a shame that these 3 cannot be brought out and sent on their way. They argreed that Comerica would be able to make business deals under 2 million without their say and just the fact that they are stating that the deal can wait shows you they know nothing about business.

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Who/what are the last 2 appeals cases that were upheld?

nelcp777 said:

Who/what are the last 2 appeals cases that were upheld?

The Supreme Court denied Duane's Girls, Johnston, Wilson, Gresham, and Leverette requests for further review on November 28, 2017.

Cousin's appeal of attorney fees is still pending.

Once he loses he will also appeal to the Supreme Court of Minnesota.

But as in the other cases above, it is discretionary and not automatic as to whether the Supreme Court will hear the case.

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Cousin's appeal of attorney fees is still pending.

Once he loses he will also appeal to the Supreme Court of Minnesota.

But as in the other cases above, it is discretionary and not automatic as to whether the Supreme Court will hear the case.

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Isaid, thank you very much. Hopefully, this cleans everything up. There is still the copyright infringement pending in Florida and Rhode Island (may be wrong on that state). Dixon is still stringing along (though not as bad).

Also, TMBGITW lawsuit is still on-going.

rogifan said:

The [redacted] is an exciting opportunity for the Estate to partner with [redacted] one of the leading entertainment companies in the world to [redacted]

Why would SNJ object to this other than someone is advising them agains it because they’re no longer getting a piece of these deals? To me “exciting opportunity” = $$ for the Estate something one would presume SNJ would be interested in.

Exactly, that vultrue is going to advise against any deal that he cannot get his hands on and he is going to cost the estate money and time. He is so vindictive and greedy it is unreal.

laurarichardson said:

rogifan said:

Why would SNJ object to this other than someone is advising them agains it because they’re no longer getting a piece of these deals? To me “exciting opportunity” = $$ for the Estate something one would presume SNJ would be interested in.

Exactly, that vultrue is going to advise against any deal that he cannot get his hands on and he is going to cost the estate money and time. He is so vindictive and greedy it is unreal.

Where's The Equilizer when you've got a question??

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

The Supreme Court denied Duane's Girls, Johnston, Wilson, Gresham, and Leverette requests for further review on November 28, 2017.

Can they appeal further or is this finally done?

Despite all that's redacted sounds like there's something ready to happen...outside of the objections that is. And Londell isn't necessarily removed from seeing what's happening, seems he wants the option to tweet about it.


"As set forth in detail in response to the Nelsons' petition to remove the Personal Representative, the Nelsons have no one to blame but Mr. McMillan for his refusal to execute a non-disclosure agreement with the Estate."

Mumio said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

The Supreme Court denied Duane's Girls, Johnston, Wilson, Gresham, and Leverette requests for further review on November 28, 2017.

Can they appeal further or is this finally done?

They can appeal to the Supreme Court of the United States.

The US Supreme Court receives literally thousands of appeals per year, and grants less than 100.

Their chances are nil.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Mumio said:

Can they appeal further or is this finally done?

They can appeal to the Supreme Court of the United States.

The US Supreme Court receives literally thousands of appeals per year, and grants less than 100.

Their chances are nil.

Finally! Maybe now the estate can start making some headway. Oh wait...SNJ will make sure to reverse that trend, their adviser will make sure of it

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Mumio said:

Can they appeal further or is this finally done?

They can appeal to the Supreme Court of the United States.

The US Supreme Court receives literally thousands of appeals per year, and grants less than 100.

Their chances are nil.

I think the chances of the Supreme Court hearing the case of a bunch of ninnies who think they can inheirit money because family members were buddies and rumors have no chance.

Mumio said:

laurarichardson said:

Exactly, that vultrue is going to advise against any deal that he cannot get his hands on and he is going to cost the estate money and time. He is so vindictive and greedy it is unreal.

Where's The Equilizer when you've got a question??

I've heard your voice this morn'n calling out my name. You've reached The Equilizer, please state your ?

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