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April 7th, 2016---have we discussed lately

I was re-reading older posts and there was a thread about P being "sick" on April 7th, cancelling a performance, and his icon on twitter having a tear added to its face on the next day. What do you think happened that day? Did I miss confirmation from the media about what happened that day other than the cancellation?

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Reply #1 posted 10/16/17 2:18pm

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purplerabbithole said:

I was re-reading older posts and there was a thread about P being "sick" on April 7th, cancelling a performance, and his icon on twitter having a tear added to its face on the next day. What do you think happened that day? Did I miss confirmation from the media about what happened that day other than the cancellation?

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—The tear could have been because he had to cancel the show or maybe some news he received. We will never know what was going on that day or what test Dr. S was running the following week. Or way he would tell two people he was not feeling 100% and was going to go back and see his doctor. For what to be told he had joint pain or was on drugs.
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Reply #2 posted 10/16/17 6:07pm

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April 7th was the first time Prince saw Schulenberg. April 20 was the second.
Kirk Johnson had previously used that doctor.
Notice that P did not have life-threatening issues until after he saw that doctor.
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Reply #3 posted 10/16/17 6:13pm

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Odd that no prescriptions (even in KJ's name) were found dating back to that day. Maybe, Prince went through the pills and just threw the bottle away somewhere on the road..

laytonian said:

April 7th was the first time Prince saw Schulenberg. April 20 was the second. Kirk Johnson had previously used that doctor. Notice that P did not have life-threatening issues until after he saw that doctor.

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laytonian said:

April 7th was the first time Prince saw Schulenberg. April 20 was the second.
Kirk Johnson had previously used that doctor.
Notice that P did not have life-threatening issues until after he saw that doctor.

Do you think Kirk was plotting the whole thing?
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Reply #5 posted 10/16/17 7:55pm

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purplerabbithole said:

Odd that no prescriptions (even in KJ's name) were found dating back to that day. Maybe, Prince went through the pills and just threw the bottle away somewhere on the road..



laytonian said:


April 7th was the first time Prince saw Schulenberg. April 20 was the second. Kirk Johnson had previously used that doctor. Notice that P did not have life-threatening issues until after he saw that doctor.

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Prince could have been using other people’s names for a long time. I doubt Dr S was the first doctor to do this for him.
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Reply #6 posted 10/16/17 8:33pm

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ThatWhiteDude said:

laytonian said:

April 7th was the first time Prince saw Schulenberg. April 20 was the second.
Kirk Johnson had previously used that doctor.
Notice that P did not have life-threatening issues until after he saw that doctor.

Do you think Kirk was plotting the whole thing?

.
I find these conspiracy theories disgusting and ridiculous.
But what if there's a pharmacist who substituted fake pulls for real ones?
Or a doctor who was a supplier?
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Reply #7 posted 10/16/17 8:35pm

laytonian

laurarichardson said:

purplerabbithole said:

Odd that no prescriptions (even in KJ's name) were found dating back to that day. Maybe, Prince went through the pills and just threw the bottle away somewhere on the road..



laytonian said:


April 7th was the first time Prince saw Schulenberg. April 20 was the second. Kirk Johnson had previously used that doctor. Notice that P did not have life-threatening issues until after he saw that doctor.

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Prince could have been using other people’s names for a long time. I doubt Dr S was the first doctor to do this for him.


It would have to be someone he knew, since you have to show your ID and sign for those drugs.
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Reply #8 posted 10/16/17 10:51pm

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laytonian said:

ThatWhiteDude said:


Do you think Kirk was plotting the whole thing?

.
I find these conspiracy theories disgusting and ridiculous.
But what if there's a pharmacist who substituted fake pulls for real ones?
Or a doctor who was a supplier?

Me too, it was just a question biggrin
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Reply #9 posted 10/17/17 3:48am

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purplerabbithole said:

I was re-reading older posts and there was a thread about P being "sick" on April 7th, cancelling a performance, and his icon on twitter having a tear added to its face on the next day. What do you think happened that day? Did I miss confirmation from the media about what happened that day other than the cancellation?

[Edited 10/16/17 6:04am]



Maybe he was depressed or had gotten some bad news that day. I believe he was at that time trying to detox from painkillers he had used for some time. That in itself can cause all kinds of messed up emotions.
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Reply #10 posted 10/17/17 7:04am

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laytonian said:

ThatWhiteDude said:
Do you think Kirk was plotting the whole thing?
. I find these conspiracy theories disgusting and ridiculous. But what if there's a pharmacist who substituted fake pulls for real ones? Or a doctor who was a supplier?

I suggested a long time ago a doctor or pharmacist could have been the supplier and people chewed me up despite the fact that pharmacist and doctors have been caught doing this in the past.

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See the Sixy Minutes clips about pain pills, lobbyist, drug companies, pharmacist and doctors all working together. I wish everything was not true and that no conspiracy exsisted ever but we cannot keep ignoring what is true. No way we reached an epidemic because some high school drop up starting selling pain pills on the corner.

https://www.cbsnews.com/n...-congress/

In the midst of the worst drug epidemic in American history, the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration's ability to keep addictive opioids off U.S. streets was derailed -- that according to Joe Rannazzisi, one of the most important whistleblowers ever interviewed by 60 Minutes. Rannazzisi ran the DEA's Office of Diversion Control, the division that regulates and investigates the pharmaceutical industry. Now in a joint investigation by 60 Minutes and The Washington Post, Rannazzisi tells the inside story of how, he says, the opioid crisis was allowed to spread -- aided by Congress, lobbyists, and a drug distribution industry that shipped, almost unchecked, hundreds of millions of pills to rogue pharmacies and pain clinics providing the rocket fuel for a crisis that, over the last two decades, has claimed 200,000 lives.

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Reply #11 posted 10/17/17 8:14am

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laurarichardson said:



laytonian said:


ThatWhiteDude said:
Do you think Kirk was plotting the whole thing?

. I find these conspiracy theories disgusting and ridiculous. But what if there's a pharmacist who substituted fake pulls for real ones? Or a doctor who was a supplier?

I suggested a long time ago a doctor or pharmacist could have been the supplier and people chewed me up despite the fact that pharmacist and doctors have been caught doing this in the past.


--


See the Sixy Minutes clips about pain pills, lobbyist, drug companies, pharmacist and doctors all working together. I wish everything was not true and that no conspiracy exsisted ever but we cannot keep ignoring what is true. No way we reached an epidemic because some high school drop up starting selling pain pills on the corner.




https://www.cbsnews.com/n...-congress/



In the midst of the worst drug epidemic in American history, the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration's ability to keep addictive opioids off U.S. streets was derailed -- that according to Joe Rannazzisi, one of the most important whistleblowers ever interviewed by 60 Minutes. Rannazzisi ran the DEA's Office of Diversion Control, the division that regulates and investigates the pharmaceutical industry. Now in a joint investigation by 60 Minutes and The Washington Post, Rannazzisi tells the inside story of how, he says, the opioid crisis was allowed to spread -- aided by Congress, lobbyists, and a drug distribution industry that shipped, almost unchecked, hundreds of millions of pills to rogue pharmacies and pain clinics providing the rocket fuel for a crisis that, over the last two decades, has claimed 200,000 lives.

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And what would be the reason to spread a epidemic like that?? That sounds batshit crazy. You underrestimate the whole thing with school drops selling this shit around the corner.

If they get their shit from the black market, then the laws are almost not able to get them. Simple as that.
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Reply #12 posted 10/17/17 8:22am

NorthC

Oh for the love of monkeys, do we really have to go through this shit again? doh!
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Reply #13 posted 10/17/17 8:23am

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NorthC said:

Oh for the love of monkeys, do we really have to go through this shit again? doh!

Right? lol
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Reply #14 posted 10/17/17 9:59am

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ThatWhiteDude said:

laurarichardson said:

I suggested a long time ago a doctor or pharmacist could have been the supplier and people chewed me up despite the fact that pharmacist and doctors have been caught doing this in the past.

--

See the Sixy Minutes clips about pain pills, lobbyist, drug companies, pharmacist and doctors all working together. I wish everything was not true and that no conspiracy exsisted ever but we cannot keep ignoring what is true. No way we reached an epidemic because some high school drop up starting selling pain pills on the corner.

https://www.cbsnews.com/n...-congress/

In the midst of the worst drug epidemic in American history, the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration's ability to keep addictive opioids off U.S. streets was derailed -- that according to Joe Rannazzisi, one of the most important whistleblowers ever interviewed by 60 Minutes. Rannazzisi ran the DEA's Office of Diversion Control, the division that regulates and investigates the pharmaceutical industry. Now in a joint investigation by 60 Minutes and The Washington Post, Rannazzisi tells the inside story of how, he says, the opioid crisis was allowed to spread -- aided by Congress, lobbyists, and a drug distribution industry that shipped, almost unchecked, hundreds of millions of pills to rogue pharmacies and pain clinics providing the rocket fuel for a crisis that, over the last two decades, has claimed 200,000 lives.

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And what would be the reason to spread a epidemic like that?? That sounds batshit crazy. You underrestimate the whole thing with school drops selling this shit around the corner. If they get their shit from the black market, then the laws are almost not able to get them. Simple as that.

Money. From the lobby groups who got the DEA off the backs of to the wholesalers to the Big Pharma not selling thousands of pills but millions of pills. Please watch the entire 60 minutes report. This is big news in the media today as the man Trump was going to make the point man for investigating pain pills in this country is the man that offered the bill to put the breaks on the DEA.

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Reply #15 posted 10/17/17 10:10am

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i think that was the topic i mentioned being overwhelmed that he was in grave danger. and that was before i read the shows had been canceled and before he ODed on the plane. I wonder if he ODed on the 6th or 7th? (April 7 was the 28 38th anniversary of for you being release!)




http://prince.org/msg/7/422992



and the reply #6 by paulludvig wow!

as well as others joking about it....

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"Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!"
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Reply #16 posted 10/17/17 10:37am

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laurarichardson said:



ThatWhiteDude said:


laurarichardson said:


I suggested a long time ago a doctor or pharmacist could have been the supplier and people chewed me up despite the fact that pharmacist and doctors have been caught doing this in the past.


--


See the Sixy Minutes clips about pain pills, lobbyist, drug companies, pharmacist and doctors all working together. I wish everything was not true and that no conspiracy exsisted ever but we cannot keep ignoring what is true. No way we reached an epidemic because some high school drop up starting selling pain pills on the corner.




https://www.cbsnews.com/n...-congress/



In the midst of the worst drug epidemic in American history, the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration's ability to keep addictive opioids off U.S. streets was derailed -- that according to Joe Rannazzisi, one of the most important whistleblowers ever interviewed by 60 Minutes. Rannazzisi ran the DEA's Office of Diversion Control, the division that regulates and investigates the pharmaceutical industry. Now in a joint investigation by 60 Minutes and The Washington Post, Rannazzisi tells the inside story of how, he says, the opioid crisis was allowed to spread -- aided by Congress, lobbyists, and a drug distribution industry that shipped, almost unchecked, hundreds of millions of pills to rogue pharmacies and pain clinics providing the rocket fuel for a crisis that, over the last two decades, has claimed 200,000 lives.


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And what would be the reason to spread a epidemic like that?? That sounds batshit crazy. You underrestimate the whole thing with school drops selling this shit around the corner. If they get their shit from the black market, then the laws are almost not able to get them. Simple as that.

Money. From the lobby groups who got the DEA off the backs of to the wholesalers to the Big Pharma not selling thousands of pills but millions of pills. Please watch the entire 60 minutes report. This is big news in the media today as the man Trump was going to make the point man for investigating pain pills in this country is the man that offered the bill to put the breaks on the DEA.




Sorry but this smells like conspiracy bullshit....
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Reply #17 posted 10/17/17 10:58am

rogifan

NorthC said:

Oh for the love of monkeys, do we really have to go through this shit again? doh!


[Edited 10/17/17 11:07am]
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Reply #18 posted 10/17/17 1:03pm

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ThatWhiteDude said:

laurarichardson said:

Money. From the lobby groups who got the DEA off the backs of to the wholesalers to the Big Pharma not selling thousands of pills but millions of pills. Please watch the entire 60 minutes report. This is big news in the media today as the man Trump was going to make the point man for investigating pain pills in this country is the man that offered the bill to put the breaks on the DEA.

Sorry but this smells like conspiracy bullshit....

Take it of up with 60 minutes and the Washignton Post. Oh and the actual bill that was passed by Congress. People keep wondering why Trump was elected. Lack of critical thinking.

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Reply #19 posted 10/17/17 1:54pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

i think that was the topic i mentioned being overwhelmed that he was in grave danger. and that was before i read the shows had been canceled and before he ODed on the plane. I wonder if he ODed on the 6th or 7th? (April 7 was the 28 38th anniversary of for you being release!)




http://prince.org/msg/7/422992



and the reply #6 by paulludvig wow!

as well as others joking about it....

[Edited 10/17/17 10:23am]

All the responses in that thread, jeez...it's really hard to go back and read that now.

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laurarichardson said:



ThatWhiteDude said:


laurarichardson said:


Money. From the lobby groups who got the DEA off the backs of to the wholesalers to the Big Pharma not selling thousands of pills but millions of pills. Please watch the entire 60 minutes report. This is big news in the media today as the man Trump was going to make the point man for investigating pain pills in this country is the man that offered the bill to put the breaks on the DEA.





Sorry but this smells like conspiracy bullshit....

Take it of up with 60 minutes and the Washignton Post. Oh and the actual bill that was passed by Congress. People keep wondering why Trump was elected. Lack of critical thinking.




Do you think the article below is made up as well.
https://www.washingtonpos...fc5b345b68
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Reply #21 posted 10/17/17 6:29pm

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laurarichardson said:

laurarichardson said:



ThatWhiteDude said:


laurarichardson said:


Money. From the lobby groups who got the DEA off the backs of to the wholesalers to the Big Pharma not selling thousands of pills but millions of pills. Please watch the entire 60 minutes report. This is big news in the media today as the man Trump was going to make the point man for investigating pain pills in this country is the man that offered the bill to put the breaks on the DEA.





Sorry but this smells like conspiracy bullshit....

Take it of up with 60 minutes and the Washignton Post. Oh and the actual bill that was passed by Congress. People keep wondering why Trump was elected. Lack of critical thinking.




Do you think the article below is made up as well.
https://www.washingtonpos...fc5b345b68

I know that the US has a Problem with opiates! This is no secret but you wanna know what's the reason for that?? 'Cause your laws aren't good enough, because medics aren't checked like in the EU. we got other Standards than the US. There's no conspiracy,the reason for the crisis is just lack of safety checks for pills.
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ThatWhiteDude said:

laurarichardson said:

Money. From the lobby groups who got the DEA off the backs of to the wholesalers to the Big Pharma not selling thousands of pills but millions of pills. Please watch the entire 60 minutes report. This is big news in the media today as the man Trump was going to make the point man for investigating pain pills in this country is the man that offered the bill to put the breaks on the DEA.

Sorry but this smells like conspiracy bullshit....


Laura is correct with what she said here. http://www.cnn.com/2017/1...index.html

Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
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Reply #23 posted 10/17/17 7:07pm

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Mumio said:



ThatWhiteDude said:


laurarichardson said:


Money. From the lobby groups who got the DEA off the backs of to the wholesalers to the Big Pharma not selling thousands of pills but millions of pills. Please watch the entire 60 minutes report. This is big news in the media today as the man Trump was going to make the point man for investigating pain pills in this country is the man that offered the bill to put the breaks on the DEA.





Sorry but this smells like conspiracy bullshit....


Laura is correct with what she said here. http://www.cnn.com/2017/1...index.html


I'm familiar with the crisis, but it's not a conspiracy
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Reply #24 posted 10/17/17 10:06pm

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ThatWhiteDude said:


Mumio said:


Laura is correct with what she said here. http://www.cnn.com/2017/1...index.html



I'm familiar with the crisis, but it's not a conspiracy


She tied in the comments about pharmacists and md's irt drugs with the current issues happening right now. That's not conspiracy, it's facts and it's all related and it's relevant to the discussion. Please do listen to the article.

[Edited 10/17/17 22:11pm]

[Edited 10/17/17 22:13pm]

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Reply #25 posted 10/18/17 5:11am

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ThatWhiteDude said:

Mumio said:


Laura is correct with what she said here. http://www.cnn.com/2017/1...index.html

I'm familiar with the crisis, but it's not a conspiracy

Listen to the Sixty Minutes story and read the article. The wholesalers and lobbyist (more than one person) worked with congress to pass a bill to tie the hands of the DEA Diversion division to stop the free flow of pills. What do you think that sounds like?

Please see the definition for conspiracy or along with some synonyms

plural conspiracies

1:the act of conspiring together
  • They were accused of conspiracy to commit murder.
2a :an agreement among conspirators
  • uncovered a conspiracy against the government
b :a group of conspirators
  • a conspiracy made up of disgruntled aristocrats

Synonym Discussion of conspiracy

plot, intrigue, machination, conspiracy, cabal mean a plan secretly devised to accomplish an evil or treacherous end. plot implies careful foresight in planning a complex scheme.
  • an assassination plot
intrigue suggests secret underhanded maneuvering in an atmosphere of duplicity.
  • backstairs intrigue
machination implies a contriving of annoyances, injuries, or evils by indirect means.
  • the machinations of a party boss
conspiracy implies a secret agreement among several people usually involving treason or great treachery.
  • a conspiracyto fix prices
cabal typically applies to political intrigue involving persons of some eminence.
    • a cabal among powerful senators

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purplerabbithole said:

I was re-reading older posts and there was a thread about P being "sick" on April 7th, cancelling a performance, and his icon on twitter having a tear added to its face on the next day. What do you think happened that day? Did I miss confirmation from the media about what happened that day other than the cancellation?

[Edited 10/16/17 6:04am]


I’ve brought this up before. The avi change with a tear is indicative that he knew. I think Prince knew he was in grave danger and was feeling overwhelmed.
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Reply #27 posted 10/18/17 8:13am

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laytonian said:

ThatWhiteDude said:


Do you think Kirk was plotting the whole thing?

.
I find these conspiracy theories disgusting and ridiculous.
But what if there's a pharmacist who substituted fake pulls for real ones?
Or a doctor who was a supplier?

? Isn’t pointing out Prince didn’t have life threatening issues until after this dr... conspiracy? Because I think it’s rather disgusting and ridiculous to raise an eyebrow to a Dr who he only saw in a very short time. It’s quite obvious whatever issues he had, that they were there long before the Dr came into the scene.
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Reply #28 posted 10/18/17 8:54am

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Mumio said:



ThatWhiteDude said:




Mumio said:



Laura is correct with what she said here. http://www.cnn.com/2017/1...index.html





I'm familiar with the crisis, but it's not a conspiracy


She tied in the comments about pharmacists and md's irt drugs with the current issues happening right now. That's not conspiracy, it's facts and it's all related and it's relevant to the discussion. Please do listen to the article.


[Edited 10/17/17 22:11pm]

[Edited 10/17/17 22:13pm]


I know that!! But what do you want to say with that regarding Prince's death? That Prince was murdered by Schulenberg? Or what? Again, I know about the crisis and what's happening.
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Reply #29 posted 10/18/17 8:57am

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GoldenParachute said:[quote]

purplerabbithole said:

I was re-reading older posts and there was a thread about P being "sick" on April 7th, cancelling a performance, and his icon on twitter having a tear added to its face on the next day. What do you think happened that day? Did I miss confirmation from the media about what happened that day other than the cancellation?

[Edited 10/16/17 6:04am]


I’ve brought this up before. The avi change with a tear is indicative that he knew. I think Prince knew he was in grave danger and was feeling overwhelmed.[/quote

Maybe! But that could mean that he was reffering to his addiction, seriously why would he shut his mouth when he knows that somebody was after him?
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