ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

I wish everyone would listen to Dave Hampton's interview about this issue.

I listened to it very carefully. Still, I think this situation bears watching. Let's just say that I am cautiously optimistic; however, only time will tell.

laurarichardson said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

I wish everyone would listen to Dave Hampton's interview about this issue.

So do I. Why would anyone think an inventory was not done or is not being done right now at Iron Mountain? Someone was going to have to work on the tapes either at PP (which was not set up for that purpose) or the tapes were going to be sent out somewhere. If Prince ever decided to work on them he would have had to send them out so this is just not a big deal.

Comerica has a fiducary duty to monitize the estate and they are being overseen by the court. So far they appear to be getting things done much better then Breamer which is bizzare considering the long relationship Prince had with Breamer but you never know how compotent any service provider is until the chips are down.

Indeed, Comerica has a fiduciary duty. At this point, however, I don't think it's safe to assume anything. I just think a bit of transparency would be nice. And, that's just my two cents. I'm not seeking consensus.

Transparency is owed to the heirs, not to the public.

rogifan said:

I thought Tyka and Omarr were the ones who wanted Comerica handling the Estate?

Now, it's been awhile but I do believe that it was SNJ who wanted/proposed Comerica and then Tyka/Omarr/Alfred agreed to go with them. They were not the ones who proposed that company though. If I am remembering incorrectly, someone please correct me.

purplethunder3121 said:

Transparency is owed to the heirs, not to the public.

Yes. And, based on the published complaints from some of the siblings, it would seem that transparency is lacking for at least some of the heirs. Also, notice that I said that "it would be nice" if they released a plan and an inventory. That is phrased thus because I know that they are not required to reveal anything to the fams. Again, just my humble opinion.

[Edited 10/13/17 12:17pm]

rogifan said:

Londell retweeted this this morning: OK I checked Iron Mountain’s site for St. Paul and Bloomington and these are the services provided: Document Imaging Data Management (PC/Servers) Records Management (storing business records off site) Secure Shredding No where is Entertainment Services listed. I couldn’t find on Iron Mountain’s website whether Entertainment Services is in one location or has many. But from a Google search it seems this is located in Los Angeles. So Londell wants us to believe Comerica spent the $$ to send 4 trucks worth of vault material all the way to California when the services they’re looking for are available in Minnesota? And they did this because??? So somebody in California can “steal” this stuff? To piss off fans? I’m really trying to understand his logic here other than he’s full of shit and just stirring the pot to get fans upset. [Edited 10/13/17 4:58am]

Londell is a shit-stirrer. That's why he tweeted this. I don't know what he is up to but I trust him as far as I can throw him. And that ain't far. Can anyone see an angle for him to have kept the vault in MN at the Iron Mountain facilities there? And I am gonna believe people with background in handling this stuff over him any day of the week. I'll bet he has his own ideas who should work the vault.

Militant said:

2freaky4church1 said:

Militant, think positive.

I'm trying. I was quite shocked by this news emotionally but I guess I'm coming to terms with it. Just, the vault is like his soul to me, you know? I have a stronger emotional connection to that than ashes in an urn. And I feel like he would want things to stay at Paisley. I understand the logic, but it just tore my heart out a bit.

feelin that for sure^^^^^^

my question is ..why was this done NOW?

purplefam99 said:

Asenath0607 said:

Just seems like sometimes the vibe on here is that fans really could care less about Prince as a person, a human being; all they want is music, more and more music. Like he gave his f*(#ing all to the music, even onto death and people just want more and more and more. Not because they appreciate him and his creativity, but just to feed their endless appetite.

I agree, Endless appetite. [Edited 10/12/17 22:04pm]

My feelings exactly.

Mumio said:

Mumio said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

laurarichardson said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

laurarichardson said:

rogifan said:

laurarichardson said:

You are correct that is the reason their bitch fest are strange. I really hope Comerica hangs around for awhile I hate to think what these two will do without supervision.

I thought Sharon was in bed with Londell?

She is. Sharon/Norrine/John have Londell working as their personal advisor. And Sharon/Norrine/John are the ones who proposed that Comerica be the next personal administrator, taking the place of Bremer. The other three had someone else they wanted but agreed to go with Comerica.

[Edited 10/13/17 16:13pm]

I hope there is a way that Iron Mountain can consult with the sound technician specialist Martin Nichols of White House studios in Weston-super-Mare, United Kingdom. He was able to restore and digitize the recently found Bob Marley 1970s concert tapes that had been forgotten in a damp hotel basement in London for 40 years. They were so badly damaged from water that it was initially thought that they were beyond repair. The story is detailed in the article, "‘Spine-tingling’ lost Bob Marley tapes restored after 40 years in a cellar."

[Edited 10/13/17 17:47pm]

FlyOnTheWall said:

I hope there is a way that Iron Mountain can consult with the sound technician specialist Martin Nichols of White House studios in Weston-super-Mare, United Kingdom. He was able to restore and digitize the recently found Bob Marley 1970s concert tapes that had been forgotten in a damp hotel basement in London for 40 years. They were so badly damaged from water that it was initially thought that they were beyond repair. The story is detailed in the article, "‘Spine-tingling’ lost Bob Marley tapes restored after 40 years in a cellar."

‘Spine-tingling’ lost...n a cellar

[Edited 10/13/17 17:47pm]

That's a great idea, FOTW. Seriously, you might consider contacting Judge Eide's court and making this suggestion.

laurarichardson said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

Indeed, Comerica has a fiduciary duty. At this point, however, I don't think it's safe to assume anything. I just think a bit of transparency would be nice. And, that's just my two cents. I'm not seeking consensus.

--Comerica has to inform the court about what they are doing with the assets. I am sure there is a paper trial and the sisters should have gone to Judgd Eide before running to the press.

FlyOnTheWall makes a valid point! Transparency and respect toward the heirs would go a long way. Sources say, Comerica represented themselves to the heirs one way to get appointed and are now doing what they want now that they are in control without consideration of the heirs and with the intent of prolonging the closing of the estate. Simply put, they should have informed the court due to the value of the contents, but they didn't according to 2 heirs, they just emptied the vault, and they intended to keep the siblings in the dark about moving the stuff which is suspect. Now they got their name all up in the news and now they want to talk restoration. How hard would it have been to document and say "Heirs we are concerned for the content of the vault and we would like to consider using Iron Mountain a facility that is used to store...... Sounds pretty simple and transparent to me. I 'm sure we would be just as upset if someone moved estate assets of ours without us having any knowledge. I'm wondering if they did it because the heirs have been vocal about considering releasing the music to the fans a la an NPG Music Club type format directly without them or the present entertainment advisors involvement? It's funny how things get when something is put in the press, now the violators want to play nice and bend the truth. I recall a similar stunt occured with Bremer when they were considering selling Prince's mothers house which Omar lives in, that is until he went to TMZ. "Oh Omar, we didn't mean it, you can stay in the house." Transparency and respect goes a long way and would have kept Comerica out of the media, they are heirs and it's quite obvious they are not being treated as such.

Hi Lonny! I have been waiting for you to make an appearance over here.

TheEquilizer said:

laurarichardson said:

FlyOnTheWall said: --Comerica has to inform the court about what they are doing with the assets. I am sure there is a paper trial and the sisters should have gone to Judgd Eide before running to the press.

FlyOnTheWall makes a valid point! Transparency and respect toward the heirs would go a long way. Sources say, Comerica represented themselves to the heirs one way to get appointed and are now doing what they want now that they are in control without consideration of the heirs and with the intent of prolonging the closing of the estate. Simply put, they should have informed the court due to the value of the contents, but they didn't according to 2 heirs, they just emptied the vault, and they intended to keep the siblings in the dark about moving the stuff which is suspect. Now they got their name all up in the news and now they want to talk restoration. How hard would it have been to document and say "Heirs we are concerned for the content of the vault and we would like to consider using Iron Mountain a facility that is used to store...... Sounds pretty simple and transparent to me. I 'm sure we would be just as upset if someone moved estate assets of ours without us having any knowledge. I'm wondering if they did it because the heirs have been vocal about considering releasing the music to the fans a la an NPG Music Club type format directly without them or the present entertainment advisors involvement? It's funny how things get when something is put in the press, now the violators want to play nice and bend the truth. I recall a similar stunt occured with Bremer when they were considering selling Prince's mothers house which Omar lives in, that is until he went to TMZ. "Oh Omar, we didn't mean it, you can stay in the house." Transparency and respect goes a long way and would have kept Comerica out of the media, they are heirs and it's quite obvious they are not being treated as such.

206Michelle said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

I hope there is a way that Iron Mountain can consult with the sound technician specialist Martin Nichols of White House studios in Weston-super-Mare, United Kingdom. He was able to restore and digitize the recently found Bob Marley 1970s concert tapes that had been forgotten in a damp hotel basement in London for 40 years. They were so badly damaged from water that it was initially thought that they were beyond repair. The story is detailed in the article, "‘Spine-tingling’ lost Bob Marley tapes restored after 40 years in a cellar."

‘Spine-tingling’ lost...n a cellar

[Edited 10/13/17 17:47pm]

That's a great idea, FOTW. Seriously, you might consider contacting Judge Eide's court and making this suggestion.

Thanks, 206Michelle! I'm just putting it out there. I would not be presumptuous enough to contact the court. I figure there's a good chance that this thread is being monitored, so hopefully, the right people will read it.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Hi Lonny! I have been waiting for you to make an appearance over here.

Lol, surprise surprise! Not buying what he's selling though.

TheEquilizer said:

FlyOnTheWall makes a valid point! Transparency and respect toward the heirs would go a long way. Sources say, Comerica represented themselves to the heirs one way to get appointed and are now doing what they want now that they are in control without consideration of the heirs and with the intent of prolonging the closing of the estate. Simply put, they should have informed the court due to the value of the contents, but they didn't according to 2 heirs, they just emptied the vault, and they intended to keep the siblings in the dark about moving the stuff which is suspect. Now they got their name all up in the news and now they want to talk restoration. How hard would it have been to document and say "Heirs we are concerned for the content of the vault and we would like to consider using Iron Mountain a facility that is used to store...... Sounds pretty simple and transparent to me. I 'm sure we would be just as upset if someone moved estate assets of ours without us having any knowledge. I'm wondering if they did it because the heirs have been vocal about considering releasing the music to the fans a la an NPG Music Club type format directly without them or the present entertainment advisors involvement? It's funny how things get when something is put in the press, now the violators want to play nice and bend the truth. I recall a similar stunt occured with Bremer when they were considering selling Prince's mothers house which Omar lives in, that is until he went to TMZ. "Oh Omar, we didn't mean it, you can stay in the house." Transparency and respect goes a long way and would have kept Comerica out of the media, they are heirs and it's quite obvious they are not being treated as such.

Hmmmm, seems to me that if any of the heirs have legitimate concerns over what Comerica is doing and if they are "playing" by the rules, they need to address that with the judge presiding over the case, Judge Eide, at the Carver County District Court, since he is the one watching over the estate proceedings, right? He's the decider . They shouldn't be running to the court of public opinion though, as this last incident has shown that was a bad decision and upset fans needlessly. Who could be advising that course of action though and why would they do that given there is legal recourse to resolve their concerns? The fans can't fix anything for them.

[Edited 10/14/17 6:15am]

Mumio said:

rogifan said:

Mumio said:

She is. Sharon/Norrine/John have Londell working as their personal advisor. And Sharon/Norrine/John are the ones who proposed that Comerica be the next personal administrator, taking the place of Bremer. The other three had someone else they wanted but agreed to go with Comerica.

[Edited 10/13/17 16:13pm]

Oh wow am I mixed up then. I thought it was the other way around. If this is the case then I don’t get why Sharon (and Londell) are throwing a hissy fit in public. She chose Comerica and Comerica is just doing its job.

It appears that after she got what she wanted, she didn't like the playing rules. But again, Judge Eide is overseeing all of it and whatever is happening is more than likely appropriate in regard to Comerica's actions and perhaps that's why this was taken public? Very suspect, but what do I know

FlyOnTheWall said:

scorp84 said:

People are acting like his tapes weren’t frequently getting bounced from LA to MN and vice versa when he was alive lol. The only thing that matters in the end is if what’s salvageable gets the proper care and attention it needs to be archived.

Agreed.