double post

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

I read this from someone familiar with both PP and Iron Mountain:

Iron Mountain is a VERY secure facility with enormous amounts of attention spent on climate control, Halon fire systems, humidity regulation, etc. I don't recall this level of environmental effort being present at Paisley. If the goal is to preserve the master tape quality as long as possible, then Iron Mountain will be a better fit. They also house collections and artifacts that are vastly more delicate and rare than Prince analog masters.

If im not being emotional....it Makes sense...

daniorU said:

In order to get the music preserved and released in the future I take this as good news.

Neversin said:

Militant said:

Sigh.

I don't like this.

I get it.

But I don't like it.

Paisley without the vault is....weird.

Who cares about it being weird?!
After spending numerous hours at the Cali facility all I can say is be glad that his stuff is finally being handled properly, instead of rotting away in his dated and dust collecting and tape rot inducing vault(s)...

Neversin.

Tell us what you think Neversin

Lovejunky said:

Neversin said:

Who cares about it being weird?!
After spending numerous hours at the Cali facility all I can say is be glad that his stuff is finally being handled properly, instead of rotting away in his dated and dust collecting and tape rot inducing vault(s)...

Neversin.

Tell us what you think Neversin

rdhull said:

This is what happens when you dont prepare.

Exactly,and it makes me mad and sad that Prince didn't make preparations for this stuff

Honestly, this is fine. Paisley Park may have been state of the art at one point. Iron Mountain is & will remain so, which will maintain its ability to store & protect & develop his creative content in the years to come.

I want his work preserved. I don't trust his family to have the competency to do that. I suspect they were in fact told & are only bringing it to the attention of the media to try & gain sympathy in their ongoing battle for an upper hand in the negotiations over the inheritance. Fans who take issue with this have only Prince to blame: a man who fought endlessly over the protection of his art throughout his life didn't do a damn thing to preserve its legacy in his death. That was careless of him & this is the result. A final bird flipped to record companies, his family, & to the fans, who only want to hear it.

And perhaps now that it has been cleared out, fans will be allowed into the vault as part of future tours of Paisley Park? So it's a potential win there, too.

Like I said on the Estate thread.........


At first I was just no for moving the contents of the Vault.

But when I think about it, it really is a good thing to bring his work to a facility where there may be a controlled climate and they will be able to prevent or slow down the disintergration of tapes and other stuff. Who knows what is and is not salvagable. As well as preserve stuff for the future for the fans.

laurarichardson said:

Militant said:

rdhull said:

maceoparker007 said:

good. if everything is being stored there, and eventually digitized, it will also be
catalogued properly. all of which benefits future releases.

Four trucks. What does that say about the amount of material. Does it sound like much? Or little?

IstenSzek said:

Militant said:

laurarichardson said:

We were always told the vault was climate controlled so I am not sure why some of you think the tapes were rotting. See link to podcast with Mike Hampton who actually worked on the vault to give insight. Also Prince had plans. Why would Paisley have been opened to the public in six months if he did not.

There were also engineers who claimed that the climate control didn't work anymore, and from hearing the podcast I got out of it that Mike Hampton also thought the vault weren't the ideal place to store the tapes, or am I wrong?
My English isn't that great to fully understand it all.

laurarichardson said:

We were always told the vault was climate controlled so I am not sure why some of you think the tapes were rotting. See link to podcast with Mike Hampton who actually worked on the vault to give insight. Also Prince had plans. Why would Paisley have been opened to the public in six months if he did not.

Nice stories from Mike Hampton, but there were more engineers who worked there and had relayed their concerns and frustration (to deaf ears) about how careless the vaults were maintained (from dust to even mold) and how deteriorated the contents were...
The CC unit died years ago and was never fixed, there was a water incident (hence the mold) there were tape cans half open lying around with layers of dust on them etc.

Neversin.

* Correction: I asked some (former) employees and they all confirmed the CC units were fixed in the early 2000's... They were still not fiunctioning in 2001 though during the Celebration event...
The state of Paisley Park wasn't a problem (regarding mold and such) but I was only talking about the vaults...

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JorisE73 said:

laurarichardson said:

We were always told the vault was climate controlled so I am not sure why some of you think the tapes were rotting. See link to podcast with Mike Hampton who actually worked on the vault to give insight. Also Prince had plans. Why would Paisley have been opened to the public in six months if he did not.

There were also engineers who claimed that the climate control didn't work anymore, and from hearing the podcast I got out of it that Mike Hampton also thought the vault weren't the ideal place to store the tapes, or am I wrong?
My English isn't that great to fully understand it all.

If you're at all familiar with her posts, you're not going to the right person as a source for proper English.

This is an excellent decision. The rumors about the condition of the main vault reminded me of old movies left to disintegrate in storage closets and basements. The overseers are making sure the music is preserved for future generations.

Is it something like this?.....

.

"Yeah sure, let's do that"

... 1 month later, a bill arrives....

"IT COSTS HOW MUCH????!!!!!!....."

NouveauDance said:

Is it something like this?.....

.

"Yeah sure, let's do that"

... 1 month later, a bill arrives....

"IT COSTS HOW MUCH????!!!!!!....."

all the more reason to start releasing albums, or shopping some of those project around
to third parties to print and distribute them.

AnnaSantana said:

sharon L. Nelson is such a drama queen. Her twitter page has some line about them not even getting an itemized list of what was taken. Really? How would she know what to compare a list to? She picked her favorite Prince song as being Purple Rain because supposedly her dad wrote the melody (the shit his dad was playing on that Inside Edition episode sounded nothing like Purple Rain). I would reckon she doesn't even know a 1/20th of his released music (and 1/100th of what is in that vault). [in interviews of hers I have heard on youtube, she seemed vague about his music overall]. ALso, Sharon is 20 years older than Prince, only has stories to tell about the late 70's with him [because the only time she saw him in subsequent years was when he happened to visit her in New York when a concert of his was in the area] and has been living in NYC for many years. For her to say it felt like he died again? Why? They were moving some music, not destroying it, from a crime scene that has been turned into a museum ( which, despite some of its illustrious history, was really a reminder of P's isolation and a failed dream).. Plus the man was a human being not just a vessel for the music she probably doesn't even listen to. I guess I am drama queen too...LOL.

I prefer to hear from the siblings who were closer to his age, know a bit more of his music and have realistic notions of what is better for the preservation of his work. I am not sure Omarr and tyka completely fit the bill (holograms, tacky urns, and impersonator-led tribute band albums are not in their favor) but at least they have some notion of modern technology and presumably have heard more than 5 songs of their brothers' music. Let the money guys run it and step the fuck out of the way. I don't like money men either (and I am sure they will do some shit that would offend us and wouldn't be what P wanted) but at least they have enough sense to preserve his work in a vault that works. As for Prince, he wasn't in control as much we think and I can only attribute that to emotional and psychological issues. People should have been looking out for Prince (and his legacy) a bit more when he was alive, instead of contributing to tell-all books, appearing on vault documentaries (which only felt threatening to him [that Essence interview came off disturbingly paranoid when he broached the subject of that documentary]) and enabling self and legacy destructive behavior.

JorisE73 said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

I read this from someone familiar with both PP and Iron Mountain:

Iron Mountain is a VERY secure facility with enormous amounts of attention spent on climate control, Halon fire systems, humidity regulation, etc. I don't recall this level of environmental effort being present at Paisley. If the goal is to preserve the master tape quality as long as possible, then Iron Mountain will be a better fit. They also house collections and artifacts that are vastly more delicate and rare than Prince analog masters.

Perfectly stated. U can shut the thread down, Mods.