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FlyOnTheWall

Article :: Is There God After Prince?

Is There God After Prince?

By Peter Coviello



APRIL 22, 2016

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.....A friend in England scored tickets a few summers ago to one of those impromptu solo gigs Prince had taken to performing. Despite what was for me a near fatal onset of envy, or perhaps in order to express it, I wrote her a series of badgering emails. “Tell me about the show!” I said. What was it like?

Her response was memorable.

“It was unlanguageable,” she said.

“Also, I think I might be pregnant.”

In a similar, sadder way, this too — this week’s awful, blindsiding tear in the fabric of things, Prince’s death — is unlanguageable.

There is of course the routinely undoing power of grief, in response to deaths no matter how mediated — it is, God knows, an impressive quantity. And there is, too, the familiar drift of our metaphors, in sorrow, out toward the terrain of measure and measurelessness: the too-huge influence, the too-many songs, the too-proliferating memories, the too-great quantity of joy.

I am with you, fellow-grievers, in all this. I found out in a coffeeshop in Chicago, texting with a friend. I stood for about 10 minutes on the corner of Clark and Foster, weepy and paralyzed, unable to imagine what to do next.

Was there eating lunch, after Prince? After Prince, would we talk on the phones? Take trains?

Was there sex after Prince?

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I want to say a small word about this, our newest burden of the unassimilable.

I want to say that Prince is hard to grieve because he is, in an only barely not literal sense, divine.

I want to say that the categories that most attend him, and that the light of his person illuminates, are not those made by the hands of men.

I want to say that for nearly 40 years Prince has served as perhaps our greatest conceptualist of religion, the one most devoted not only to God but to heterodoxy, heresy, blasphemy: to all that, in these latter days of privatized belief and well-bred “spirituality,” lends to the realm of the religious whatever ongoing vitality and incisiveness it has.

I want to say that Prince is the least secular rockstar we have ever known. Read More...

[Edited 10/7/17 18:44pm]

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Reply #1 posted 10/08/17 10:29am

kingricefan

Great article! Click the link to read the entire thing.

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Reply #2 posted 10/08/17 2:41pm

FlyOnTheWall

kingricefan said:

Great article! Click the link to read the entire thing.

Yes!! I really enjoyed reading it. The writing is exquisite. I'm shocked that I'd never seen it before.

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Reply #3 posted 10/08/17 4:05pm

Lovejunky

Loved reading this...

Unusually written, but compelling

unlanguagable...

what a GREAT way of explaining he who we cant seem to explain...

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Reply #4 posted 10/08/17 6:07pm

FlyOnTheWall

Lovejunky said:

Loved reading this...

Unusually written, but compelling

unlanguagable...

what a GREAT way of explaining he who we cant seem to explain...

Hi, Love!!!! It's been awhile. You're right: the writer's style is very unusual but quite effective. In fact, I had to read some passages more than once for understanding. Others I read twice because they were just so delicious. I particularly liked his opening story about the Prince party he threw in the middle of the winter in Maine, at which he met his future wife. He said that he would subsequently tell her, "You walked in. I woke up." I thought that was a beautiful example of the power and economy of Prince's lyrics, this time in "U Got the Look."

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Reply #5 posted 10/10/17 4:35pm

FlyOnTheWall

Here's a thought I forgot to mention: The title might make some uncomfortable, but I don't think it should be taken literally.

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Reply #6 posted 10/10/17 6:20pm

poppys

yes ! Thank you for posting, Fly.

"if you can't clap on the one, then don't clap at all"
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Reply #7 posted 10/11/17 8:38pm

FlyOnTheWall

poppys said:

yes ! Thank you for posting, Fly.

I'm glad you enjoyed it, poppys!! It's a wonderful tribute.

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Reply #8 posted 10/12/17 3:12am

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what a great read! made my day ... TY fly hug

the only love there is is the love we make heart
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Reply #9 posted 10/12/17 3:19am

Lovejunky

FlyOnTheWall said:

Lovejunky said:

Loved reading this...

Unusually written, but compelling

unlanguagable...

what a GREAT way of explaining he who we cant seem to explain...

Hi, Love!!!! It's been awhile. You're right: the writer's style is very unusual but quite effective. In fact, I had to read some passages more than once for understanding. Others I read twice because they were just so delicious. I particularly liked his opening story about the Prince party he threw in the middle of the winter in Maine, at which he met his future wife. He said that he would subsequently tell her, "You walked in. I woke up." I thought that was a beautiful example of the power and economy of Prince's lyrics, this time in "U Got the Look."

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Reply #10 posted 10/13/17 2:02pm

FlyOnTheWall

lemoncrush19 said:

what a great read! made my day ... TY fly hug

Hey, lemon!!!! Long time!! It's great to hear from you. I'm so glad you enjoyed the article. heart

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Reply #11 posted 10/13/17 3:16pm

poppys

FlyOnTheWall said:

lemoncrush19 said:

what a great read! made my day ... TY fly hug

Hey, lemon!!!! Long time!! It's great to hear from you. I'm so glad you enjoyed the article. heart

I've reread this a few times this week. Amazing words describing Prince as an equal opportunity lover of/for us all. Great find, FOTW. cool

Look at that grin. It is the inward smile of someone watching indulgently as an entire world tries to imagine a set of terms capacious enough to hold him, to grasp the atomic-scale detonation of swagger and style and sex that is his person, and failing to do so.

Look upon my works, ye mighty, that smile says. Now let’s fuck.

This, friends, is the otherworldliness — let’s just say it: the divinity — of Prince. Without contempt, without pity, with louche bemusement and flirty solicitousness, he stands apart from the creaky organizing edifices, the aspirational little taxonomies, of the merely human. They address him, but they do not adhere to him. He speaks in, and as, something otherwise, but also, deliciously, near.

Put on his songs, any of them. Here, they say. Do you need a reminder of the exhilarating limitlessness of the world apart from the knowable and known? Here you go.

prince eye chair

"if you can't clap on the one, then don't clap at all"
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Reply #12 posted 10/13/17 3:46pm

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yes

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #13 posted 10/14/17 4:19am

lemoncrush19

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poppys said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

Hey, lemon!!!! Long time!! It's great to hear from you. I'm so glad you enjoyed the article. heart

I've reread this a few times this week. Amazing words describing Prince as an equal opportunity lover of/for us all. Great find, FOTW. cool

Look at that grin. It is the inward smile of someone watching indulgently as an entire world tries to imagine a set of terms capacious enough to hold him, to grasp the atomic-scale detonation of swagger and style and sex that is his person, and failing to do so.

Look upon my works, ye mighty, that smile says. Now let’s fuck.

This, friends, is the otherworldliness — let’s just say it: the divinity — of Prince. Without contempt, without pity, with louche bemusement and flirty solicitousness, he stands apart from the creaky organizing edifices, the aspirational little taxonomies, of the merely human. They address him, but they do not adhere to him. He speaks in, and as, something otherwise, but also, deliciously, near.

Put on his songs, any of them. Here, they say. Do you need a reminder of the exhilarating limitlessness of the world apart from the knowable and known? Here you go.

prince eye chair


and so did I. this is the freaking best tribute for prince I've ever read. ever. take this:

...

Prince, to this impulse, is pure radiant confoundment.

And if this makes him a wonder — the prophet of the holy fuck, flooding the world with these bright shards of unconverted divinity — it also makes him hard to grieve. His death is unassimilable, I mean, because it partakes of the unassimilability that he has always, in that splendid otherwordliness, carried around with him.


He is hard for us to grieve because grief, too, is a thing, a tool, made of and for this world.

It’s a sad thought: nothing — nothing in the world — can console us in this.

heart


yes fly, it's been a while ... good to see u back ... hope life treats u kind hug

the only love there is is the love we make heart
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Reply #14 posted 10/15/17 3:15am

FlyOnTheWall

poppys said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

Hey, lemon!!!! Long time!! It's great to hear from you. I'm so glad you enjoyed the article. heart

I've reread this a few times this week. Amazing words describing Prince as an equal opportunity lover of/for us all. Great find, FOTW. cool

Look at that grin. It is the inward smile of someone watching indulgently as an entire world tries to imagine a set of terms capacious enough to hold him, to grasp the atomic-scale detonation of swagger and style and sex that is his person, and failing to do so.

Look upon my works, ye mighty, that smile says. Now let’s fuck.

This, friends, is the otherworldliness — let’s just say it: the divinity — of Prince. Without contempt, without pity, with louche bemusement and flirty solicitousness, he stands apart from the creaky organizing edifices, the aspirational little taxonomies, of the merely human. They address him, but they do not adhere to him. He speaks in, and as, something otherwise, but also, deliciously, near.

Put on his songs, any of them. Here, they say. Do you need a reminder of the exhilarating limitlessness of the world apart from the knowable and known? Here you go.

prince eye chair

Thanks, poppys!! You have inspired me to go back and read this again right now!! It is such a loving and well-deserved tribute for our beloved Prince. heart

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Reply #15 posted 10/15/17 3:17am

FlyOnTheWall

lemoncrush19 said:

poppys said:

I've reread this a few times this week. Amazing words describing Prince as an equal opportunity lover of/for us all. Great find, FOTW. cool

Look at that grin. It is the inward smile of someone watching indulgently as an entire world tries to imagine a set of terms capacious enough to hold him, to grasp the atomic-scale detonation of swagger and style and sex that is his person, and failing to do so.

Look upon my works, ye mighty, that smile says. Now let’s fuck.

This, friends, is the otherworldliness — let’s just say it: the divinity — of Prince. Without contempt, without pity, with louche bemusement and flirty solicitousness, he stands apart from the creaky organizing edifices, the aspirational little taxonomies, of the merely human. They address him, but they do not adhere to him. He speaks in, and as, something otherwise, but also, deliciously, near.

Put on his songs, any of them. Here, they say. Do you need a reminder of the exhilarating limitlessness of the world apart from the knowable and known? Here you go.

prince eye chair


and so did I. this is the freaking best tribute for prince I've ever read. ever. take this:

...

Prince, to this impulse, is pure radiant confoundment.

And if this makes him a wonder — the prophet of the holy fuck, flooding the world with these bright shards of unconverted divinity — it also makes him hard to grieve. His death is unassimilable, I mean, because it partakes of the unassimilability that he has always, in that splendid otherwordliness, carried around with him.


He is hard for us to grieve because grief, too, is a thing, a tool, made of and for this world.

It’s a sad thought: nothing — nothing in the world — can console us in this.

heart


yes fly, it's been a while ... good to see u back ... hope life treats u kind hug

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Reply #16 posted 10/15/17 8:52am

poppys

lemoncrush19 said:

poppys said:

I've reread this a few times this week. Amazing words describing Prince as an equal opportunity lover of/for us all. Great find, FOTW. cool

Look at that grin. It is the inward smile of someone watching indulgently as an entire world tries to imagine a set of terms capacious enough to hold him, to grasp the atomic-scale detonation of swagger and style and sex that is his person, and failing to do so.

Look upon my works, ye mighty, that smile says. Now let’s fuck.

This, friends, is the otherworldliness — let’s just say it: the divinity — of Prince. Without contempt, without pity, with louche bemusement and flirty solicitousness, he stands apart from the creaky organizing edifices, the aspirational little taxonomies, of the merely human. They address him, but they do not adhere to him. He speaks in, and as, something otherwise, but also, deliciously, near.

Put on his songs, any of them. Here, they say. Do you need a reminder of the exhilarating limitlessness of the world apart from the knowable and known? Here you go.

prince eye chair


and so did I. this is the freaking best tribute for prince I've ever read. ever. take this:

...

Prince, to this impulse, is pure radiant confoundment.

And if this makes him a wonder — the prophet of the holy fuck, flooding the world with these bright shards of unconverted divinity — it also makes him hard to grieve. His death is unassimilable, I mean, because it partakes of the unassimilability that he has always, in that splendid otherwordliness, carried around with him.


He is hard for us to grieve because grief, too, is a thing, a tool, made of and for this world.

It’s a sad thought: nothing — nothing in the world — can console us in this.

heart


yes fly, it's been a while ... good to see u back ... hope life treats u kind hug

Agree lemon crush! The idea about grief being of this world, unlike Prince, and so we have no tools to cope, just kills me - but it makes sense. rose

"if you can't clap on the one, then don't clap at all"
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Reply #17 posted 10/15/17 12:43pm

lemoncrush19

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poppys said:



lemoncrush19 said:




poppys said:



I've reread this a few times this week. Amazing words describing Prince as an equal opportunity lover of/for us all. Great find, FOTW. cool


Look at that grin. It is the inward smile of someone watching indulgently as an entire world tries to imagine a set of terms capacious enough to hold him, to grasp the atomic-scale detonation of swagger and style and sex that is his person, and failing to do so.


Look upon my works, ye mighty, that smile says. Now let’s fuck.


This, friends, is the otherworldliness — let’s just say it: the divinity — of Prince. Without contempt, without pity, with louche bemusement and flirty solicitousness, he stands apart from the creaky organizing edifices, the aspirational little taxonomies, of the merely human. They address him, but they do not adhere to him. He speaks in, and as, something otherwise, but also, deliciously, near.


Put on his songs, any of them. Here, they say. Do you need a reminder of the exhilarating limitlessness of the world apart from the knowable and known? Here you go.


prince eye chair





and so did I. this is the freaking best tribute for prince I've ever read. ever. take this:


...


Prince, to this impulse, is pure radiant confoundment.


And if this makes him a wonder — the prophet of the holy fuck, flooding the world with these bright shards of unconverted divinity — it also makes him hard to grieve. His death is unassimilable, I mean, because it partakes of the unassimilability that he has always, in that splendid otherwordliness, carried around with him.




He is hard for us to grieve because grief, too, is a thing, a tool, made of and for this world.


It’s a sad thought: nothing — nothing in the world — can console us in this.

heart


yes fly, it's been a while ... good to see u back ... hope life treats u kind hug




Agree lemon crush! The idea about grief being of this world, unlike Prince, and so we have no tools to cope, just kills me - but it makes sense. rose



yeah but remember poppys? that's why we should party up every time we think of him! sending him love and light ... him and everybody else ... and party up ... that's what he wants us to do ... he'd love that 💜💜💜
the only love there is is the love we make heart
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Reply #18 posted 10/15/17 2:10pm

poppys

lemoncrush19 said:

poppys said:

Agree lemon crush! The idea about grief being of this world, unlike Prince, and so we have no tools to cope, just kills me - but it makes sense. rose

yeah but remember poppys? that's why we should party up every time we think of him! sending him love and light ... him and everybody else ... and party up ... that's what he wants us to do ... he'd love that 💜💜💜

True true Ms Crush! party

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Reply #19 posted 10/15/17 2:19pm

anangellooksdo
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I liked this ok and thank you for posting it.
I did want to say while reading it that it was a bit sex-heavy and that Prince was more about love and God than anything though.
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Reply #20 posted 10/15/17 3:40pm

FlyOnTheWall

BREAKING NEWS: Prince is widely known as a "SEX GOD."

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Reply #21 posted 10/15/17 3:49pm

poppys

FlyOnTheWall said:

BREAKING NEWS: Prince is widely known as a "SEX GOD."

falloff

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Reply #22 posted 10/19/17 8:03am

anangellooksdo
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What is "widely known" by the masses, is usually the illusion that most can't see through.
A couple of us have been trying to tell everyone this here for months now.....
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Reply #23 posted 10/19/17 8:45am

FlyOnTheWall

rolleyes

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