Sexy MF peaked at # 4 in Holland and My Name reached # 7... Maybe not such a bad choice for singles after all... | |
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Love Symbol is an amazing album,but I have always felt that a few of the singles were not good choices.As you mentioned,"Sexy MF" is a song that most radio stations simply couldn't play,for obvious reasons I also think that "The Morning Papers" was a poor choice....it's an OK song but not worthy of being a single.I wonder how things would have turned out if Prince had let Warners choose all of the singles. | |
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I seem to remember Sexy MF and My Name is Prince being successful in the UK - Sexy MF had loads of airplay - even if it was the edit version. They weren't poor single choices from an exposure and rotation perspective. I think 7 didn't chart so well in the UK...I am happy to be proved wrong..I could go and look it up ...
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Yeah - Sexy MF 4, My Name is Prince 7, 7 27, Morning Papers 52. The first two single choices weren't the matter here. | |
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Yes....they are Overlords.. | |
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This is more of a general thing to the poster known as Bart. Why the fuck are you still here? Prince is dead, you know. All your venom is meaningless now. You hate him. He's a prick. He's this. He's that? So why the fuck are you on here wasting your time on someone you hate? Is it to make his fans feel bad? Or are you just mentally ill? For the love of Dog, if I hated an artist so much I sure as fuck wouldn't spend years and years and years dwelling on him? And years and years and years.... | |
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As far as you know isn't very far. I was on amp, lots of people were on amp; some changed their names. How could you claim to know that rdhull is the only one around? Are you all powerful? | |
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I knew. Who didn't? | |
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Yes. | |
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EnDoRpHn said:
Methinks you should look up the definition of sycophant. Sounds like what you are doing here, and not with regard to Prince. Methinks one doth need to ease off on the purple koolaid. blah blah blah | |
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Amen and Ashe!! LOLBVS | |
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sro100 said: I knew. Who didn't? My thoughts exactly. 'Liberate My Mind' | |
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Lets be real here. My name is the only one that matters
btw, these pretzels are making me thirsty "Climb in my fur." | |
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rdhull said:
Lets be real here. My name is the only one that matters
btw, these pretzels are making me thirsty | |
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BartVanHemelen said:
. No he wasn't. He was an insensitive prick who compared his luxurious job to slavery. . Moreover the likes of the Rolling Stones experienced much worse decades earlier. IIRC they still don't control all of their back catalogue. . Oh, and Prince signed that infamous $100 million contract of his own free will (and against the advice of his entourage) and was the first to release a press release, boasting that inflated number. . At the same time both REM and Metallica negotiated successfullywith WEA companies to gain the rights to their back catalogue. Meanwhile Prince behaved like a stubborn child instead of an adult, and sabotaged his own career by releasing substandard music. —-None of this matters because he got what he wanted in the end. He died free and clear. I know it is lost on you how two rock bands got to have their masters with one being on the same label and not Prince. I know it is lost on you that George Clinton talks at length in his book about how shitty WB could be toward Prince. | |
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Break it down B!
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It is just his opinion and plenty of people who were around disagree. I will take what they have to say over some dude sitting in his basement ranting about an artist he does not care about.
Oh and REM has their masters because WB knew it would not be of any value in the future. I think when you do five times the work you deserve the money and the masters.
No way on God's green earth did REM work harder for WB then Prince did.
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Eh, the REM catalogue will be worth a lot for many years to come regardless of whether or not they worked as hard as Prince. In fact I would be surprised if their overall catalogue wasn't outselling his up until he died. [Edited 11/3/17 9:51am] | |
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Really I listen to a lot of stations that play 80s music and I hear more Prince then I do REM. He worked 10 times as hard and has 20 times the music they produced. They did not spawn a genre of music and never see these guys listed as an influence. WB let them have that catalogue because they did not think it would be worth anything. I do not even know of a lot of bands covering their music.
Do not like your love for a band make you think they are super popular. I know I can walk down the street a find 10 people who know one Prince song. I bet I could not find five that could name an REM song and no one will be crying in the street if Mike Stripe died tommorow.
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I'm not really a fan of REM at all but their sales speak for themselves. I'll leave the googling to you. Only Purple Rain outsells their biggest 4 albums or so. | |
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Not to mention none of their releases were really throwaways. Not dogging Prince but REM put a lot into all of their releases. I'll say things like PE, Come, Chaos & Disorder, Exodus, GN, NewPowerSoul, were allsome of his less inspired releases.
And please people, no shitstorm about how great Come is and how my opinion(s) suck etc. "Climb in my fur." | |
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But it is your opinion. According to Forbes he made 16 million this year. Do you really think REM catalogue is selling like that? We all know that Prince was a hard act to market and he was not on a major lable for 20 years. The quality and volume of his work in 20 times better then REM.
Also record companies are not going to give masters tapes back that they think have value. Even in Prince's case WB has a licensing deal with him because they still knew they could get money out of him. They have threaten to suit if the deal is not honored. They do think his catalogue is devoid of value.
Some of you are acting like REM was the Rolling Stones. These guys have disappered into the dust and they average person could not pick them out of crowd. It does not help that they were boring as a bowl of potatoes when they were around. | |
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You still around Laura? "Climb in my fur." | |
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R.E.M.'s streaming figures look healthy to me, especially for a band who have had no major news in a decade, Losing My Religion is up there at Rolling Stones and Michael Jackson levels, actually higher than any Rolling Stones song by a considerable margin.
But wait, Laura's personal opinion is that they are boring so WB must not have cared about them, oh and also they didn't work very hard or something. A solid case is being made here. [Edited 11/3/17 16:10pm] | |
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I think you summed it up quite well here Life Matters | |
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I am looking at their output compared to Prince's so I am being factual instead of emotional. WB gave them back their tapes for a reason. When Prince made his deal with WB it came with a licensing deal because WB wanted to continue to have a chance to make money from his music. I never heard of any licensing deal with REM.
The estate racked in 16 million per Forbes some of which had to come from royaties. I wonder how REM made in royatlies? Outside of Losing My Religion what songs the average person walking down the street would even know off the top of their heads and when was the last time you heard an REM song in a movie, teleivison program, or commercial? Or even while shopping in the grocery store because I heard not one but two Prince songs playing over the muszic in the Safeway this weekend.
Yes, artist get paid for muszac. $$$ I will wait for your response because REM is not the Rolling Stones or the Beatles.
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My response is that calling someone "boring" isn't very factual. I never claimed REM were the Beatles or the Rolling Stones, I said one of their tracks is up there with the biggest in terms of streams. They're one of the biggest bands from the 80's and 90's whether you like it or not and your reasoning for them getting their masters back is bullshit, you might even say it's pretty emotional. | |
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"Climb in my fur." | |
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A slave is someone who is forced to work. Work is something you wouldn't do UNLESS you were getting paid or were being forced. Prince never considered what he did "work." He did it all the time, it was his life. You can't "force" someone to do what they want to do. The "Slave" thing never made that much sense to me. It's okay to be white. | |
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