getwild180 said:

I don't know if this question has already been answered before. Also where is the album version taken from? Is the full show on a bootleg? Oh and one more question. Was it Wendy that said yea when Prince said "let's get outta here" on play in the sunshine? Thanks a lot purple peeps. [Edited 9/20/17 7:30am] [Edited 9/20/17 7:31am]

It was during the Parade Tour this song came about as a jam, but Prince turned it into an actual song for SOTT. The original didnt have actual lyrics and verses like the released version does. its highly possible there is no actual studio version. Much of the original was still used in the released version with overdubs for horns, vocals and Sheila E's rap.

Prince Vault is having technical difficulties it says and Im mad about it.

http://www.princevault.co...iful_Night

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There's an audience video of the performance used on the recording circulating.

getwild180 said:

getwild180 said:

Wow I didn't know that. So he even was doing that wizard of oz chant way before sign o the times too then? Thanks for the info guys.

I think the 'Wizard of Oz' touches where heard in 1984.

I know there is reference to Dorothy and the Lion even on 100MPH(Mazarati)

getwild180 said:

I was at the show in Paris when it recorded, and to be honest, it was very forgetable at the time, without the overdubs. It was just, 'one of those' long jams.

Its roots are in the extended jam section of 'Baby, I'm a Star' from the Purple Rain Tour.

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Extended jam and/or live instrumentals with later overdubs appear to have been a fascination of P's during 1986 ('Coco Boys', 'Data Bank', 'It's Gonna Be a Beautiful Night', 'Soulpsychodelicide').

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imprimis said:

Its roots are in the extended jam section of 'Baby, I'm a Star' from the Purple Rain Tour.

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Extended jam and/or live instrumentals with later overdubs appear to have been a fascination of P's during 1986 ('Coco Boys', 'Data Bank', 'It's Gonna Be a Beautiful Night', 'Soulpsychodelicide').

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I thought that was America in connection 2 Baby I'm A Star

I thought more or less IGBABN had roots in U Gotta Shake Something

OldFriends4Sale said:

imprimis said:

Its roots are in the extended jam section of 'Baby, I'm a Star' from the Purple Rain Tour.

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Extended jam and/or live instrumentals with later overdubs appear to have been a fascination of P's during 1986 ('Coco Boys', 'Data Bank', 'It's Gonna Be a Beautiful Night', 'Soulpsychodelicide').

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I thought that was America in connection 2 Baby I'm A Star

I thought more or less IGBABN had roots in U Gotta Shake Something

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Yes, UGSS even more immediately than BIAS.

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There are also a bit of the basic themes in the 'White Girls'/'The Bird' 1983/84 rehearsals, to go even further back.

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imprimis said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I thought that was America in connection 2 Baby I'm A Star

I thought more or less IGBABN had roots in U Gotta Shake Something

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Yes, that even more immediately than BIAS. There are also a bit of the basic themes in the 'White Girls'/'The Bird' 1983/84 rehearsals.

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U R going to have me listening to all my bootleg rehearsals and such lol
I believe I heard him do the 'wizard of oz' chant as early as 1984 somehow in connection with the Family at that.

SquirrelMeat said:

I was at the show in Paris when it recorded, and to be honest, it was very forgetable at the time, without the overdubs. It was just, 'one of those' long jams.

Were Eric and Matt there? I always assumed the horns were done live.

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What about Jill?

GaryMF said:

SquirrelMeat said:

I was at the show in Paris when it recorded, and to be honest, it was very forgetable at the time, without the overdubs. It was just, 'one of those' long jams.

Were Eric and Matt there? I always assumed the horns were done live.

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What about Jill?

I assume Eric & Matt where there, since they were on the Parade tour.

The video I'm watching (I don't know Eric & Matt were there, not Jill, maybe she was at the one SquirrelMeat is talking about)

August 25. 1986
"Le Zenith" Paris.France
1.Around The World In A Day*
2.Christopher Tracy's Parade*
3.New Position*
4.I Wonder U*
5.Raspberry Beret*
6.Delirious*
7.Controversy*
8.A Love Bizarre*
9.Do Me, Baby*
10.How Much Is That Doggie In The Window?
11.Automatic*
12.D.M.S.R.*
13.When Doves Cry*
14,Under The Cherry Moon*
15.Anotherloverholenyohead*
16.17days*
17.Head*
18.Pop Life*
19.Girls & Boys*
20.Life Can Be So Nice*
21.1999
22.It's Gonna Be A Beautiful Night*
23.Mountains
24.Kiss
25.Purple Rain

If you listen to the original jam, it becomes clear that the version on Sign of the Times IS the studio version.

mediumdry said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

GaryMF said:

SquirrelMeat said:

I was at the show in Paris when it recorded, and to be honest, it was very forgetable at the time, without the overdubs. It was just, 'one of those' long jams.

Were Eric and Matt there? I always assumed the horns were done live.

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What about Jill?

Eric and Matt were there.

Don't remember seeing Jill at all. If she was, she was not main stage.

All I really remember was it was a bit of a boring long jam (sorry, thats how it felt at the time).

SquirrelMeat said:

imprimis said:

Its roots are in the extended jam section of 'Baby, I'm a Star' from the Purple Rain Tour.

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Extended jam and/or live instrumentals with later overdubs appear to have been a fascination of P's during 1986 ('Coco Boys', 'Data Bank', 'It's Gonna Be a Beautiful Night', 'Soulpsychodelicide').

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"It's Gonna Be a Beuatiful Night" was orders of magnitude funkier than "Baby, I'm a Star" - matter of fact it might just be the funkiest thing Prince ever did, depending on your mood and your life experience, etc it just might could maby even be the funkiest thing that EVER WAS. It's THAT BAD. A lot say they don't like it much, but to me it's the greatest thing on his greatest album, even the decidedly mediocre Sheila E. rapping (that would be her rapping, not Sheila in general LOL) cannot diminish by one iota it's true majesty. I love it!!!

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Great point, hardwork. I agree. Prince did something incredible putting The Cross - IGBABN - Adore together. One climax after the next. But without 'Beautiful Night' the album would not work as brililantly as it does -- it's THE TOP of the mountain. Everytime I've listened striaght through, I always get so excited knowing it's coming! A funk masterpiece.

SquirrelMeat said:

I was at the show in Paris when it recorded, and to be honest, it was very forgetable at the time, without the overdubs. It was just, 'one of those' long jams.

I was there too

SquirrelMeat said:

GaryMF said:

Were Eric and Matt there? I always assumed the horns were done live.

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What about Jill?

Eric and Matt were there.

Don't remember seeing Jill at all. If she was, she was not main stage.

All I really remember was it was a bit of a boring long jam (sorry, thats how it felt at the time).

I think I've seen Jill and Susannah on the side, almost hidden by the curtain. It was not boring, in my souvenirs and my bootleg tape it was a hot funky jam.

ufoclub said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I think the 'Wizard of Oz' touches where heard in 1984.

I know there is reference to Dorothy and the Lion even on 100MPH(Mazarati)

Jungle Love has part of the chant as a feature.

Yes, thank U