laurarichardson said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

That's right. Pills remain intact past the point of stomach acid and digestive enzymes. NOT!

Hey, back off, MuleFunk is writing THE book about Prince's death!!!

[/quote Why is it so hard to believe that someone slipped him those pills. It does not have to be a conspiracy or something that was done on purpose. It either murder tor suicide. People get killed every day and many murders go unsolved. If his family does not push the case it will never be solved and I really believe they are not interested. [Edited 10/15/17 15:06pm]

Laura, so let me get this straight; now you're saying the ME lied or submitted a fraudulent autopsy report which would put her lisc. in peril, open the county to a lawsuit from the family and result in criminal legal proceedings against her and her department.

Laura, this is a BIG story you have the inside track on!!!

As you have said so many times to so many people: IF YOU HAVE PROOF OF THIS YOU NEED TO TAKE IT TO THE PROPER AUTHORITIES.

Weren't people on here (I can not recall if it was you or someone else but you were involved inthe discussion) stating that P could have committed suicide and ME might have kept that buried upon request by the family.

Bodhitheblackdog said:

laurarichardson said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

Hey, back off, MuleFunk is writing THE book about Prince's death!!!

[/quote Why is it so hard to believe that someone slipped him those pills. It does not have to be a conspiracy or something that was done on purpose. It either murder tor suicide. People get killed every day and many murders go unsolved. If his family does not push the case it will never be solved and I really believe they are not interested. [Edited 10/15/17 15:06pm]

Laura, so let me get this straight; now you're saying the ME lied or submitted a fraudulent autopsy report which would put her lisc. in peril, open the county to a lawsuit from the family and result in criminal legal proceedings against her and her department.

Laura, this is a BIG story you have the inside track on!!!

As you have said so many times to so many people: IF YOU HAVE PROOF OF THIS YOU NEED TO TAKE IT TO THE PROPER AUTHORITIES.

Bodhitheblackdog said:

It is not unusual or against the law for a medical examiner to review a case and change the cause of death. If at sometime a review is requested she can make any determination. Princes death is still an open case, many times ME's are presented with further information and change the original cause of death, not unusual...

fortuneandserendipity said:

Actually it would be very unlikely that the people involved in the case do not know exactly how many pills he took. They tested the pills that he did not take, they know how much fentanyl was in his system...pretty simple equation

laurarichardson said:

—I disagree if that tidbit was true then other tidbits can true.

That's cool. But I am not going to consider the majority of info given by unnamed "sources" as something that might be true any more than something that might be false. It's an equal situation. I, as well as a lot of other people, have given more credence to these unsubstantiated pieces of information than we should have and that is due to how very little info we have gotten from official sources. You know I don't buy into the drug addict bullshit about Prince, but he did overdose and I don't deny that. But I am not gonna go for this info put out there in regard to the tox report results. Not without seeing the actual signed and dated report.

purplerabbithole said:

Weren't people on here (I can not recall if it was you or someone else but you were involved inthe discussion) stating that P could have committed suicide and ME might have kept that buried upon request by the family.

Bodhitheblackdog said:

Laura, so let me get this straight; now you're saying the ME lied or submitted a fraudulent autopsy report which would put her lisc. in peril, open the county to a lawsuit from the family and result in criminal legal proceedings against her and her department.

Laura, this is a BIG story you have the inside track on!!!

As you have said so many times to so many people: IF YOU HAVE PROOF OF THIS YOU NEED TO TAKE IT TO THE PROPER AUTHORITIES.

Actually, I happen to believe it was suicide and that the ME fudged the results out of compassion for the fam, Prince's religious beliefs and his home town hero status. LoveSymbolNumberTwo is totally correct that these ME 'conclusions' are fluid.

I was just poking LR a bit for definately concluding it was suicide or murder (!)...boy, we've come a long way from the era when she claimed he would never take his own life. And a murder hypothesis raises the following, very difficult, questions for this venue:

Someone hated him enough to kill him? This religious, charitable, celebate, soft-spoken kindly middle aged gentleman? Who, incidentally, has been described here (I paraphrase) as past his prime, his biggest hits behind him, a niche act, could no longer fill stadiums, etc...why now? when his greatest earning potential was in his rear view mirror? What would be the motive?

He seemed easy enough to con/play (one ex wife in particular, several lawyers, people who stole from him, etc)...why kill him? He seemed rather harmless.

Bodhitheblackdog said:

200 million bucks,"no will"...and some shady ass family...

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

Actually, I happen to believe it was suicide and that the ME fudged the results out of compassion for the fam, Prince's religious beliefs and his home town hero status. LoveSymbolNumberTwo is totally correct that these ME 'conclusions' are fluid.

I was just poking LR a bit for definately concluding it was suicide or murder (!)...boy, we've come a long way from the era when she claimed he would never take his own life. And a murder hypothesis raises the following, very difficult, questions for this venue:

Someone hated him enough to kill him? This religious, charitable, celebate, soft-spoken kindly middle aged gentleman? Who, incidentally, has been described here (I paraphrase) as past his prime, his biggest hits behind him, a niche act, could no longer fill stadiums, etc...why now? when his greatest earning potential was in his rear view mirror? What would be the motive?

He seemed easy enough to con/play (one ex wife in particular, several lawyers, people who stole from him, etc)...why kill him? He seemed rather harmless.

200 million bucks,"no will"...and some shady ass family...

So, you're saying someone in his immediate family, knowing he had no will, decided to off him even though they knew they would be one of the heirs in the end? Where's the motive? They're all gonna have more money than they dreamed of.

[Edited 10/15/17 18:11pm]

Bodhitheblackdog said:

No will was found...it does not mean there was no will...no will made his entire unsuccessful family the automatic heirs...people have certainly been murdered for less, and will manipulation is not unheard of...I have no idea what happened, but why is the murder of a super rich guy with no wife or kids so out of the question? To me it is just as possible as an accident or a suicide

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

So, you're saying someone in his immediate family, knowing he had no will, decided to off him even though they knew they would be one of the heirs in the end? Where's the motive? They're all gonna have more money than they dreamed of.

[Edited 10/15/17 18:11pm]

No will was found...it does not mean there was no will...no will made his entire unsuccessful family the automatic heirs...people have certainly been murdered for less, and will manipulation is not unheard of...I have no idea what happened, but why is the murder of a super rich guy with no wife or kids so out of the question? To me it is just as possible as an accident or a suicide

The one he was closest to was Tyka, whom he was said to have loved. IF he had a will that he had drawn up himself (one drawn up by a lawyer would have obligated that lawyer to come forward by now) she would have known of it or had possession of it yet she declared almost immediately after his death that there was no will. IF he left everything to the JW's, stiffing his family, wouldn't one of the elders have been informed and then alerted authorities to the existence of a will.? If it was in a Swiss safety deposit box, like one Kirk may have visited on his 'vacation' to Switzerland just after P. died...why would he destroy it? If he was named, YIPPEE. If he wasn't named, he had no horse in that race....unless it was destroyed to keep the JW's from getting everything and the fam promised to take care of Krk. Hmmmmm

Bodhitheblackdog said:

Something like that...some of his siblings are old and probably knew the chances of them inheriting with a will would have been very small, as they had no relationship with him for years. It is not impossible that they could concoct a plan with Kirk or someone, to make a will leaving everything to the church go away, and use his pain problem as a means to deliver the leathal pill...I am not saying this is what I think, what I am saying is I think it is a possibility

What was taking them so long to kill P? Much of that music has been in that vault for years? He's been a multi-millionaire for years. His siblings have been old for years. P was seen popping pills in 2009 and supposedly had hips problems 4 or 5 years before that. Why Now? Why not do it in 2009? I don't buy that he kept some secret will in a vault somewhere in Switzerland that only KJ could open...Official wills are drawn up by lawyers, are they not? THere would be a paper trail for that one. If P was going to go to the trouble to draw up a secret will and take it to a safety deposit box all the way in Switzerland, wouldn't he have a lawyer draw it up for him officially so that no one could fudge a will? Plus, these criminal masterminds who killed P and who were too old to wait around for his money, wouldn't they know that no will meant many years in probate and a whole mess of sorting out his estate for years?

I think P was dealing with pain and addiction. NO one knew entirely how bad it was except for KJ and a few others (although many probably suspected but he kept throwing them out his circle before they knew the full extent)> . And his inner circle didn't know how the fvck to keep the man comfortable, themselves employed and still look out for his best interest. So dumb ass mistakes were made. Or P decided on a whim (and he does have a history of occassional erratic behavior--contrary to popular opinion, he was not always in control) to throw caution to the wind and downed a bunch of black market pills when his withdrawal symptoms flaired up again that night (after he was put to bed with some anti-anxiety med),, and after he came to the realization that eventually he would have to admit he had an addiction to everyone. Yes, there was that weird 45 minute time after they started looking for him, but there are many many reasons that could have happened. Hell, it could have been assisted suicide for all we know and his family and KJ are trying to hide it.

Bodhitheblackdog said:

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

Bodhitheblackdog said: No will was found...it does not mean there was no will...no will made his entire unsuccessful family the automatic heirs...people have certainly been murdered for less, and will manipulation is not unheard of...I have no idea what happened, but why is the murder of a super rich guy with no wife or kids so out of the question? To me it is just as possible as an accident or a suicide

The one he was closest to was Tyka, whom he was said to have loved. IF he had a will that he had drawn up himself (one drawn up by a lawyer would have obligated that lawyer to come forward by now) she would have known of it or had possession of it yet she declared almost immediately after his death that there was no will. IF he left everything to the JW's, stiffing his family, wouldn't one of the elders have been informed and then alerted authorities to the existence of a will.? If it was in a Swiss safety deposit box, like one Kirk may have visited on his 'vacation' to Switzerland just after P. died...why would he destroy it? If he was named, YIPPEE. If he wasn't named, he had no horse in that race....unless it was destroyed to keep the JW's from getting everything and the fam promised to take care of Krk. Hmmmmm

[Edited 10/15/17 19:44pm]

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

200 million bucks,"no will"...and some shady ass family...

What is worth $200 mil in P's estate?

Where is the source that Kirk went to Switzerland??

Seriously, I dont know. I keep hearing this on the org but I dont know where that was confirmed.

Bodhitheblackdog said:

The one he was closest to was Tyka, whom he was said to have loved. IF he had a will that he had drawn up himself (one drawn up by a lawyer would have obligated that lawyer to come forward by now) she would have known of it or had possession of it yet she declared almost immediately after his death that there was no will. IF he left everything to the JW's, stiffing his family, wouldn't one of the elders have been informed and then alerted authorities to the existence of a will.? If it was in a Swiss safety deposit box, like one Kirk may have visited on his 'vacation' to Switzerland just after P. died...why would he destroy it? If he was named, YIPPEE. If he wasn't named, he had no horse in that race....unless it was destroyed to keep the JW's from getting everything and the fam promised to take care of Krk. Hmmmmm

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

200 million bucks,"no will"...and some shady ass family...

What is worth $200 mil in P's estate?

It is a number the media keeps making up. No one knows what the estate is worth.

Bodhitheblackdog said:

laurarichardson said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

Hey, back off, MuleFunk is writing THE book about Prince's death!!!

[/quote Why is it so hard to believe that someone slipped him those pills. It does not have to be a conspiracy or something that was done on purpose. It either murder tor suicide. People get killed every day and many murders go unsolved. If his family does not push the case it will never be solved and I really believe they are not interested. [Edited 10/15/17 15:06pm]

Laura, so let me get this straight; now you're saying the ME lied or submitted a fraudulent autopsy report which would put her lisc. in peril, open the county to a lawsuit from the family and result in criminal legal proceedings against her and her department.

Laura, this is a BIG story you have the inside track on!!!

As you have said so many times to so many people: IF YOU HAVE PROOF OF THIS YOU NEED TO TAKE IT TO THE PROPER AUTHORITIES.

I never said the ME lied but other people have said that just not something I would say.

I only say suicide because if he had this high amount of Fentenyl in his system and he had access to legit pills via Kirk from Dr. S why did he take the bootleg pills and why so much Fentenyl in them?

According to Dr. Drew pain pill addicts rarely o.d unless the pills are mixed with other substances due to the constant vomiting that these pills cause.

How is that Prince came to o.d. on these pills with a high amount of fentenyl and other substances and yet we have not heard of massive amounts of other people dying in the Tri-State region from a similar concoction? This concoction is now used by the state of Neveda as their death penatly drug. Coincedence ?

Why were the cameras turned off? Why did Prince send everyone away? Why was Prince contacting people he had not spoken to in years the last year of his life?

Why did he have a skeleton crew at Paisley and was doing a tour where he talked about the past something he was not known for doing. Coincedence.

Why did he finally get around to turning Paisley into a museum after some people said he talked about it for 20 years?

Why did he bother to send notes and even scripts via e-mail to people he knew?

How about giving away hordes of money to charity in the last few years of his life.?Coincidence.

How about Romero his bodyguard who was sent on vacation the last week and said that he packed P's bags when they went on tour and he never saw drugs.

How about his previous assistence who worked for him from 2013 to 2015? The women has said that he was never high and that in his 50s he out worked her. She described her day as working from 12:00 noon to 2:00am on somedays and quit because she was exhausted. She has said she positive that whatever problems he had started after she left.

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I am not saying the ME lied I am saying that ME did not have any evidence to put on the death certifcate that it was a suicide as there was no note and evidence that he was planning to die.

The ME would need proof to say he killed himself. I am saying that anyone can kill themselves and not leave the evidence behind.

Something was wrong with this man's health and it was not all pain pills.

Health can mean pain pills, joint problems, depression or other illnesses. At this point anyone who think that this is an open and shut case of a junkie overdosing is living in La La land.

A dozen people who knew him say in the weeks after his death that "we do not know the whole story" and few on this board want to acknowledge this as well as his sister's comments.

Keep living in La La land.

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

The one he was closest to was Tyka, whom he was said to have loved. IF he had a will that he had drawn up himself (one drawn up by a lawyer would have obligated that lawyer to come forward by now) she would have known of it or had possession of it yet she declared almost immediately after his death that there was no will. IF he left everything to the JW's, stiffing his family, wouldn't one of the elders have been informed and then alerted authorities to the existence of a will.? If it was in a Swiss safety deposit box, like one Kirk may have visited on his 'vacation' to Switzerland just after P. died...why would he destroy it? If he was named, YIPPEE. If he wasn't named, he had no horse in that race....unless it was destroyed to keep the JW's from getting everything and the fam promised to take care of Krk. Hmmmmm

Something like that...some of his siblings are old and probably knew the chances of them inheriting with a will would have been very small, as they had no relationship with him for years. It is not impossible that they could concoct a plan with Kirk or someone, to make a will leaving everything to the church go away, and use his pain problem as a means to deliver the leathal pill...I am not saying this is what I think, what I am saying is I think it is a possibility

Remember Kirk was suppose to be running L4OA when Patrick Cousins stole the church from the charity. Something Breamer wanted the family to forget about despite the fact that Breamer had a fiducary duty to look into this just type of matter. Yet they brought Kirk on board as an advisior.

Where is the money P made from his P&M tours? Tickets for that Oracle show were going for as much as $500.00 dollars and that was a 20k arena. Where is the Tidal money?

Why is Phedra implying that she no longer worked for Prince when she was clearly listed on incorporation documents and took care of the transactions for the Purple Rain house back in January. Why does she now have a attorney that specializes in white collar crime?

I am not going to go into Lonnie coming out of nowhere and his fraudlent behavior. Loads of shady stuff was going on after Prince died.

We have too many people who seemed ready to sprung into action despite their claims that they did not know anything was wrong with his health. I do not belive that shit and at this point I cannot understand why anyone would knowing what we do know.

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

So, you're saying someone in his immediate family, knowing he had no will, decided to off him even though they knew they would be one of the heirs in the end? Where's the motive? They're all gonna have more money than they dreamed of.

[Edited 10/15/17 18:11pm]

No will was found...it does not mean there was no will...no will made his entire unsuccessful family the automatic heirs...people have certainly been murdered for less, and will manipulation is not unheard of...I have no idea what happened, but why is the murder of a super rich guy with no wife or kids so out of the question? To me it is just as possible as an accident or a suicide

It just simply isn't. So let's try logical reasoning instead.

Accidental OD, distinct possibility. Intentional OD (suicide), distinct possibility. Murder, virtually nonexistent possibility. And here's why...

There is no circumstantial evidence pointing to a contrived planting of one suspect rogue pill (or 2 or more pills) with which to kill Prince. There is NO evidence pointing to one of these pills being different from any other from the same batch.

Second, there is the question of motive. It would make f.a. sense for anyone involved in the music industry to bump off P! How could they possibly know they would be main heir to a fortune, given most of his legacy (vault) is mostly concealed, unreleased, and which P never sought to share with anyone. Noone even had the faintest idea whether P had a will. As for known Prince assets (eg property, album sale loyalties, financial savings) noone outside of family could possibly claim heritage to any of it!!!

Therefore, the only possible motive for murder would be contingent on a closish family member. Explain any plausible scenario here? Because, of family members, I can only think of Tyka being around once or twice in the last few weeks, and let's face it: you can't miss her and Prince certainly wouldn't. So how was she able to plant pills so P got ill twice, once on a plane a week before! Was she sneaking into Paisley Park without setting off alarms or alerting security?

Or maybe it was Maurice Phillips, her husband. He's a hefty guy. I'm sure he was able to sneak in there, undetected. ffs!

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

Here's another clue then. There is no definitive evidence P took just ONE pill. There is no definitive evidence he took TWO pills. Or THREE even. In fact, we have no real idea how many pills he took!

Do you see the problem with your argument. You're assuming he took one 'rogue' pill, laced with insane amount of fentanyl. Petesilas orger, for instance, says no way is he going to believe there was that much fentanyl - inadvertently consumed - from one pill

(assuming that the uncorroborated report of P's blood and liver fentanyl levels were correct).

Actually it would be very unlikely that the people involved in the case do not know exactly how many pills he took. They tested the pills that he did not take, they know how much fentanyl was in his system...pretty simple equation

They didn't know how many pills he took. Not the M.E., nobody. It's that simple. Unless we go with your reasoning and rewrite the laws of physics. In which case... congratulations!

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

Laura, so let me get this straight; now you're saying the ME lied or submitted a fraudulent autopsy report which would put her lisc. in peril, open the county to a lawsuit from the family and result in criminal legal proceedings against her and her department.

Laura, this is a BIG story you have the inside track on!!!

As you have said so many times to so many people: IF YOU HAVE PROOF OF THIS YOU NEED TO TAKE IT TO THE PROPER AUTHORITIES.

It is not unusual or against the law for a medical examiner to review a case and change the cause of death. If at sometime a review is requested she can make any determination. Princes death is still an open case, many times ME's are presented with further information and change the original cause of death, not unusual...

If they family were to push things in the investigation could change. The doctor that gave Elvis all of those pills went to jail only because his family pushed investigators. It is really up to the family and I know his cousin Charles has been very vocal about someone being resposible.

There is more to this then we the public know.

fortuneandserendipity said:

o.k. So they analyzed the remaing pills which contained a certain percentage of fentanyl, no guessing, they know exactly how much fentanyl is in the unused pills..they also know how much fentanyl was in princes system at the time of death. Again...easy math to figure out how many pills were taken...So why is it so hard to believe the investigation actually knows how many pills were taken? I don't know, you don't know, but they know

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

They didn't know how many pills he took. Not the M.E., nobody. It's that simple. Unless we go with your reasoning and rewrite the laws of physics. In which case... congratulations!

o.k. So they analyzed the remaing pills which contained a certain percentage of fentanyl, no guessing, they know exactly how much fentanyl is in the unused pills..they also know how much fentanyl was in princes system at the time of death. Again...easy math to figure out how many pills were taken...So why is it so hard to believe the investigation actually knows how many pills were taken? I don't know, you don't know, but they know

There are a lot of things the ME and the police know that we do not know. I will always believe they have an idea about who is responsible but cannot prove it.

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

They didn't know how many pills he took. Not the M.E., nobody. It's that simple. Unless we go with your reasoning and rewrite the laws of physics. In which case... congratulations!

o.k. So they analyzed the remaing pills which contained a certain percentage of fentanyl, no guessing, they know exactly how much fentanyl is in the unused pills..they also know how much fentanyl was in princes system at the time of death. Again...easy math to figure out how many pills were taken...So why is it so hard to believe the investigation actually knows how many pills were taken? I don't know, you don't know, but they know

NO they don't know (who is 'they' anyway?!) There were different batches of pills, some containing fentanyl, some not. It's also entirely possible P had a very small batch where he downed every single pill therein, and left none behind.

So there is no way to know for sure how many pills were in his system, post mortem. The only thing they do know is levels of different substances in his bloodstream, liver etc. That information provides no proof of how many pills he took. What is so difficult about that to understand?

laurarichardson said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

That interview was really Michael B Nelson referencing the new 'minneapolis sound', as Prince termed it. The main song in question was Baltimore where the string part was transposed to guitar solo. And that song was completed well before Jan '16. While it's possible, that from recording sessions for Hit N Run 2 through to April '16, P was always on the top of his game creating new genre material, it is unlikely. Particularly considering he was ill those last few months.

If I remember correctly, Michael B Nelson wasn't really saying what P would be further capable of had he lived, more the case that he'd already explored this new sound.

You missed the part about Panega but you are going to think what you want no matter what so go ahead and live in your world. He was a washed up musician 🙄 He was so bad off how did he make it to the stage to play those killers concerts. It was the drugs they gave him the strength to go on🙄. [Edited 10/6/17 19:44pm]

Crazy talk

fortuneandserendipity said:

laurarichardson said:

fortuneandserendipity said: You missed the part about Panega but you are going to think what you want no matter what so go ahead and live in your world. He was a washed up musician 🙄 He was so bad off how did he make it to the stage to play those killers concerts. It was the drugs they gave him the strength to go on🙄. [Edited 10/6/17 19:44pm]

Crazy talk

That is your crazy talk because this is what you have implied since you got on this topic.

You honestly seem to think Prince was sitting around popping pain pills the last years of his life with not work being completed at all? Despite evidence to the contrary.

I bet he was eating liquids for two years due to pain pills despite pics of him in the fall of 2015 were he looks quite fit. You are the one being ridculous and living in La La land.

No one has reported Prince doing anything out of the ordinary until January of 2016. Not one single person rather they be radom people or people that worked for him.

Dr. S claims he was not even seeing Prince for withdrawrals so their is not actual evidence of him being treated for drug use but I bet their is evidence of him being treated for other things in Dr S records.

laurarichardson said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

Crazy talk

That is your crazy talk because this is what you have implied since you got on this topic.

You honestly seem to think Prince was sitting around popping pain pills the last years of his life with not work being completed at all? Despite evidence to the contrary.

I bet he was eating liquids for two years due to pain pills despite pics of him in the fall of 2015 were he looks quite fit. You are the one being ridculous and living in La La land.

No one has reported Prince doing anything out of the ordinary until January of 2016. Not one single person rather they be radom people or people that worked for him.

Dr. S claims he was not even seeing Prince for withdrawrals so their is not actual evidence of him being treated for drug use but I bet their is evidence of him being treated for other things in Dr S records.

I've implied nothing of the sort. You're just spouting more of your incongrous interpretations of what people haven't said. It's truly bizarre. Put another way, if you don't 100% agree with someone's opinion, you twist their words to mean something they didn't. You fill in gaps that were never said.

Again, you're the one talking crazy. If there was a poll on this site for labelling the orgers most notorious for nonsense, your name would be right up there.

fortuneandserendipity said:

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

fortuneandserendipity said: o.k. So they analyzed the remaing pills which contained a certain percentage of fentanyl, no guessing, they know exactly how much fentanyl is in the unused pills..they also know how much fentanyl was in princes system at the time of death. Again...easy math to figure out how many pills were taken...So why is it so hard to believe the investigation actually knows how many pills were taken? I don't know, you don't know, but they know

NO they don't know (who is 'they' anyway?!) There were different batches of pills, some containing fentanyl, some not. It's also entirely possible P had a very small batch where he downed every single pill therein, and left none behind.

So there is no way to know for sure how many pills were in his system, post mortem. The only thing they do know is levels of different substances in his bloodstream, liver etc. That information provides no proof of how many pills he took. What is so difficult about that to understand?

Suggesting others are so dumb they don't get what YOU consider an evidence
is not the best way to get your point across...

To me, the through-the-roof levels found simply don't match the last Atlanta show,
which was just a week before.
Maybe some medical authority could share their opinions about what activities
such levels allow to do (giving a show, riding a bike, going to the Wrecka Stow), just to see of your implying of Prince
having these levels in his blood on a regular basis stand the test.

The third eye pic, the "don't waste your prayers", April 21st (SISIA recording session anniversary)
and finally the OD levels make me think of suicide. I sure hope it isn't the case,
but the razor's bullshit appears, in this case, particularly sharp to me.

I really wish for it to be just a tragic accident, Prince not knowing what he was taking.
As for the lethal cocktail equivalent not found anywhere around Minnie,
it could come from anywhere (Atlanta, Darknet), but it sure is puzzling.

[Edited 10/16/17 9:16am]

bonatoc said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

NO they don't know (who is 'they' anyway?!) There were different batches of pills, some containing fentanyl, some not. It's also entirely possible P had a very small batch where he downed every single pill therein, and left none behind.

So there is no way to know for sure how many pills were in his system, post mortem. The only thing they do know is levels of different substances in his bloodstream, liver etc. That information provides no proof of how many pills he took. What is so difficult about that to understand?

Suggesting others are so dumb they don't get what YOU consider an evidence
is not the best way to get your point across...

To me, the through-the-roof levels found simply don't match the last Atlanta show,
which was just a week before.
Maybe some medical authority could share their opinions about what activities
such levels allow to do (giving a show, riding a bike, going to the Wrecka Stow), just to see of your implying of Prince
having these levels in his blood on a regular basis stand the test.

The third eye pic, the "don't waste your prayers", April 21st (SISIA recording session anniversary)
and finally the OD levels make me think of suicide. I sure hope it isn't the case,
but the razor's bullshit appears, in this case, particularly sharp to me.

I really wish for it to be just a tragic accident, Prince not knowing what he was taking.
As for the lethal cocktail equivalent not found anywhere around Minnie,
it could come from anywhere (Atlanta, Darknet), but it sure is puzzling.

[Edited 10/16/17 9:16am]

They're the ones claiming knowledge of extraordinary evidence. I'm just asking for proof. Half of my posts probably concern what we don't know - stuff that gets mistaken as fact.

I never said he had junkie-collapsing-to-the-floor levels of opiates, 24-7, month after month. Someone on here keeps misinterpreting what me and others have said. The misinterpreter often gets believed instead, which is funny.

I'm open to the idea of it being accident OD. But emerging anecdotal evidence to me points the other way. Like the teardrop pic, 'don't waste your prayers' quote, that you mention.

fortuneandserendipity said:

Hahahahahaah....No one around here ever claims more authority and super knowledge than you, especially on this subject...come on,just for fun,go back and read your post and then say that again with a straight face

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

They're the ones claiming knowledge of extraordinary evidence. I'm just asking for proof. Half of my posts probably concern what we don't know - stuff that gets mistaken as fact.

I never said he had junkie-collapsing-to-the-floor levels of opiates, 24-7, month after month. Someone on here keeps misinterpreting what me and others have said. The misinterpreter often gets believed instead, which is funny.

I'm open to the idea of it being accident OD. But emerging anecdotal evidence to me points the other way. Like the teardrop pic, 'don't waste your prayers' quote, that you mention.

Hahahahahaah....No one around here ever claims more authority and super knowledge than you, especially on this subject...come on,just for fun,go back and read your post and then say that again with a straight face

Here's a better suggestion. Highlight one of my previous posts where I contradict what I say above. You and a few others on here keep assuming speculation as fact. Go back and read your own posts again, then get back to me.