Bodhitheblackdog said:

laurarichardson said:

Bodhitheblackdog said: --Actually Sharon said they would like to put revenue aside for charities Prince supported but realize they have to have a profitable business first. Remember even Prince had to bring in money to fund his charities.

And the first order of business apparently was laying their beloved brother to rest for eternity in the lobby of a tourist attraction where people have to pay money to pay their respects. Sideshow Prince.

The Urn is no longer visable to the public and the first order of business was honoring his wished to tu rn Paisley Park into a museum. This was something Prince sent out to numerous people via e-mail and had already started setting up exhibits before he passed.

The building has to be maintained which takes money and even Prince realized that much.

I like your comment, Bodhi. I wish they had scattered his ashes rather than install them at PP. But money is money ...

1Sasha said:

I like your comment, Bodhi. I wish they had scattered his ashes rather than install them at PP. But money is money ...

The urn not his ashes was visable and it is not visable anymore. People were not coming to Paisley Park to see his urn. You guys need to knock it off.

margi said:

master said:

i just think that prince was bad as far as taking stuff down but nowhere near as bad as these are. . He was bad and lets face it he could have been more succesful if had common business sense. . Look at floyd mayweather He makes millions a great businessman. Then compare to prince both at the top of the field talentwise. Youtube etc is free promotion and he blocked it so does estate. . . Also prince never used to pay people and they had to go to court to get it. Prince was abit of a crook also you know and very tricky to deal with. His insistance on getting bigger cut on his cds leaft nothing for promotion. He could not see that with promotion he would make much more money. They could have come to a deal with warners on first avenue 83 dvd purple rain deluxe and made it better. Sure they blocked it and they could have come to a deal come to a deal with boxhall. He says not paid for studio time and i believe him .

They do not need to be pains in the ass they can easily make money using common sense but so far they have got everythin wrong.

The estate are run by very greedy people .Every action they have taken as shown themselves to be this. . Every penny as to go to them when done sod all to earn it.

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[Edited 8/26/17 6:15am]

laurarichardson understands the situation of the estate. The music in the vault belongs to the LLC and is managed under the direction of what Prince set up the LLC to do. The beneficiaries of the LLC named by Prince will financially benefit from income derived from his music legacy. The Estate is made up of Real Estate, PP,personal possesions and vehicles etc. To keep PP running the estate must liquidate what it can and raise money for the state taxes. If you want Prince's music and legacy to continue then you have to allow the "wheels to turn". A will was not necessary as the LLC stands alone and he controls what he wanted by the charter when he set it up. The estate that perhaps would have benefited from a Will was perhaps left to sort itself out as a Will would have been contested much as what has already gone on. I believe the beneficiaries of the LLC will never be known but I am sure his charities are included. I am surprised Van Jones was not more involved in the LLC but we may not know what is really going on there. The LLC is not suject to any state taxes,will remain private always and goes on infinitum.

no she does not understand at all. So they were not allowed to do deal with warners for a better purple rain deluxe?. They had no say in weather deliverance can go ahead or not?. Stop dreaming. They came out with statetment about purple rain musical being not offically endorsed. talking about stabbing yourself in foot. the purple rain musical is actually free promotion for purple rain cd etc. youtube is free promotion . As for warners helping make better products gives it a better chance of sel.ling more

The comparison with mayweather is fair as both of equalt talent . This guy is clever. He knows the value of promotion. Last fight he took on a fighter who had no chance and made 200 million. Prince used to scratch around for peanuts on stuff like a newspaper giveaway and undo agood thing he had going with universal in process by not keeping them informed. . Even people who know nothing about boxing know who floyds is.

All i am saying is the estate have proved themselves to have the pettiness of a 5 year old girl. Prince was a terribel bussinessman. Look at jay z , puff daddy , beyonce. Nowhere near the talent and made millions. He was an idiot in some of those deals. look at the slave fiasco.

laurarichardson said:

1Sasha said:

I like your comment, Bodhi. I wish they had scattered his ashes rather than install them at PP. But money is money ...

The urn not his ashes was visable and it is not visable anymore. People were not coming to Paisley Park to see his urn. You guys need to knock it off.

Listen, I was not and am not in favor or PP being a tourist attraction. And I knew the urn was in one place at the beginning and has been removed from that area. We shall have to agree to disagree on how things have been handled.

1Sasha said:

laurarichardson said:

The urn not his ashes was visable and it is not visable anymore. People were not coming to Paisley Park to see his urn. You guys need to knock it off.

Listen, I was not and am not in favor or PP being a tourist attraction. And I knew the urn was in one place at the beginning and has been removed from that area. We shall have to agree to disagree on how things have been handled.

But that is what Prince wanted. He wanted PP to be used as a museum. Museums are tourist attractions. He had already put exhibits together and the interior designer he hired has shown are mocks up of some of the rooms. Sheila E said she sent up drums and few months before.

He also sent out the plans and blueprints to associates. Why do you not want his wishes to be honored?

purplefam99 said:

I held the possibility that perhaps the ashes were separated, some scattered and some left in the urn at PP? I don't know if that is odd in the realm of cremation, but I thought of it as a possibility. Or that the ashes were scattered and the vessel is in paisley but empty. I don't think where the ashes are located now is nearly as beautiful as before. But it does seem they are safer perhaps. I appreciate PP being a museum and the celebrations they are holding.

I appreciate it and many people who go seem to enjoy being there.

laurarichardson said:

1Sasha said:

Listen, I was not and am not in favor or PP being a tourist attraction. And I knew the urn was in one place at the beginning and has been removed from that area. We shall have to agree to disagree on how things have been handled.

But that is what Prince wanted. He wanted PP to be used as a museum. Museums are tourist attractions. He had already put exhibits together and the interior designer he hired has shown are mocks up of some of the rooms. Sheila E said she sent up drums and few months before.

He also sent out the plans and blueprints to associates. Why do you not want his wishes to be honored?

There are things he might have wanted, but that doesn't mean those wishes have to be carried out. This is just me. I was not part of the contingent that thought opening PP so quickly was a good idea.

I would have preferred to get everything settled first, but due to the absence of documents, that has not been possible. The music is the priority for me, not real estate. JMO

1Sasha said:

laurarichardson said:

But that is what Prince wanted. He wanted PP to be used as a museum. Museums are tourist attractions. He had already put exhibits together and the interior designer he hired has shown are mocks up of some of the rooms. Sheila E said she sent up drums and few months before.

He also sent out the plans and blueprints to associates. Why do you not want his wishes to be honored?

There are things he might have wanted, but that doesn't mean those wishes have to be carried out. This is just me. I was not part of the contingent that thought opening PP so quickly was a good idea.

I would have preferred to get everything settled first, but due to the absence of documents, that has not been possible. The music is the priority for me, not real estate. JMO

I think if the knew his wishes and it is possible to pull it off those wishes should be honored.

The family is going to be living off of his money for generations it is called being respectful his house was open to fans when he was alive and I do not care what any else thinks he did not send out business plans just to be friendly. He knew his time might be limited. He should get one thing that he wanted.

rogifan said:

I live just 2 miles from Paisley Park. I drive by it every day and every day the parking lot is full of cars. Ask Funkenberry, ask associates and they’ll all tell you he wanted it to become a museum and was something he was working on. And based on the fact the parking lot usually full it’s obviously something the public is interested in. Just recently PP announced the battle of the bands ompetition where the winner will get mentoring from NPG members, studio time at Paisley Park and additional career development opportunities. Stop with the nonsense that it’s all about greedy family members/others just trying to make money off Prince. The music side of things is clearly more complicated. Based on comments and actions from siblings it sure seems like they are more involved with or have more ownership of Paisley Park than they do the music right now. Of course all the issues with Universal didn’t help matters. People talk about all this music that should be out there right now...OK who’s distributing it? Warner Bros? Someone else? Isn’t that what the Universal deal was all about? Who distributes new music now?

For the time until the WB contract ends WB will be handling WB stuff. I hope they do something with the SOTT. I think they family will either find another company to handle the rest or will have to do it themselves. You cannot force companies to take on the vault material if they do not feel it is valuable.

laurarichardson said:

1Sasha said:

I like your comment, Bodhi. I wish they had scattered his ashes rather than install them at PP. But money is money ...

The urn not his ashes was visable and it is not visable anymore. People were not coming to Paisley Park to see his urn. You guys need to knock it off.

But I assume the urn is kept somewhere in PP, right?

Astasheiks said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

laurarichardson said:

Astasheiks said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

laurarichardson said:

laurarichardson said:

laurarichardson said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

laurarichardson said:

Once again how do you know that their are not silent members or a trust is a silent members. Anything to do with financial matters has been redacted and now we keep seeing the LLC separated from the estate in Comerica era documents. Have you seen anything that specifically states that the LLC is separate? [Edited 8/29/17 15:40pm]

Because that is not how LLCs run by law.

LR doesn't care about no damn law. LR cares about the narrative that Prince left a brilliant 'business plan' instead of a will. LOL

and PS: I am a silent partner in several LLC's and my name, address, social security number, etc, etc, etc. are all over the legal documents relating to these entities. Far from being 'silent', my participation in LLC's are among the most invasive of my investments. LR...estate law is not your area of expertise, you're embarassing yourself.

sonshine said:

Prince made it quite clear his beloved PP would be, and it was, a welcome destination for his fans. I hope PP endures forever. It's going to have to make money for that to happen. Simple as that. The music end of it with all the confusing legalities is over my head. But one thing seems clear: it's a hot mess. The longer it takes the more distant his memory becomes, and the less interested music lovers will become. Then again, he never really seemed that motivated at winning new fans with his album releases per se. He, as much or even more than most musicians, depended upon live performances to keep the big machine rolling. His stellar reputation as a live performer was cemented. That was his bread and butter and that significant revenue is lost now forever. Seems no small worry for those left in charge i would think.

But LR insists that that lost revenue from live performances can be easily replaced by turning the Prince catalogue into a jingle machine for movies and commercials. If Prince had a grave, he's be rolling over in it.

Well said, sonshine. The Elvis brigade sees the Elvis light dimming now, 40 years after his death since the majority of his fans are passing, too. I cannot see a 40-year span for PP and Prince, not with the way things are. But that is just me.

1Sasha said:

Well said, sonshine. The Elvis brigade sees the Elvis light dimming now, 40 years after his death since the majority of his fans are passing, too. I cannot see a 40-year span for PP and Prince, not with the way things are. But that is just me.

Everything will be fine for Elvis and Prince. When you are legendary like these two your light will never dim. I can see a 40 year span for PP if they come with new and excited ideas.

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Bodhitheblackdog said: