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Reply #30 posted 08/27/17 4:46pm

crimesofparis

vlammie said:

I never played a hb, or the Korean hohners from the 80s, but I have witnessed the mad cat humiliating some really good custom shop strats and teles in comparisons more than once.
They are not only for Prince fans, but just really good guitars in general.

I want to make sure more stores have those in stock for people to try...
But the lead time is again almost 1 year, and the factory increased their production capacity with 30%.

Yeah, the cost of something I can't play first is a big reason I haven't pulled that trigger. I would LOVE to try one out first.
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Reply #31 posted 08/28/17 2:09pm

vlammie

crimesofparis said:


Yeah, the cost of something I can't play first is a big reason I haven't pulled that trigger. I would LOVE to try one out first.


I completely agree, the only guitar I ever bought unseen was my 84 mad cat, which I found in a store in Japan.
All others I always tested in person.
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Reply #32 posted 08/29/17 9:01am

Knightoflight

vlammie said:

Here's a video of an original mad cat from '84 and a prototype of a limited run we' re gonna do with the re-issue:

https://www.facebook.com/...588767907/

The '84 is mine, I also own a re-issue, and a 45th anniversary (with the tele pickups).

Someone mentioned the re-issue sounded close to a strat but not like the old ones, which is really far from the truth.

I think I can make claims like this, owning a '84 and previously a '79 original.

I'm also the guy who's behind the madcatguitars.com website and the facebook page: www.facebook.com/hsandersonguitars

Some good info, catalogs, etc. to be found there...

Dig if you will, the pictures. smile

I could judge ony from those demo videos - and Md Cat sounds very close to demo-ed Strat

The video of LImited Edition Mad Cta shows WAY different and unique sound

Still I am missing good unplugged video

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Reply #33 posted 08/29/17 2:30pm

vlammie

Knightoflight said:


I could judge ony from those demo videos - and Md Cat sounds very close to demo-ed Strat



The video of LImited Edition Mad Cta shows WAY different and unique sound



Still I am missing good unplugged video



Unplugged? With an electric guitar?
Even with really good microphones, that would be really hard to judge anything.
Or maybe I misunderstood you?
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Reply #34 posted 08/29/17 3:37pm

crimesofparis

vlammie said:

Knightoflight said:


I could judge ony from those demo videos - and Md Cat sounds very close to demo-ed Strat



The video of LImited Edition Mad Cta shows WAY different and unique sound



Still I am missing good unplugged video



Unplugged? With an electric guitar?
Even with really good microphones, that would be really hard to judge anything.
Or maybe I misunderstood you?

Maybe he means organic video of it out in the wild vs a normal demo video?
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Reply #35 posted 08/29/17 8:50pm

Knightoflight

crimesofparis said:

vlammie said:



Unplugged? With an electric guitar?
Even with really good microphones, that would be really hard to judge anything.
Or maybe I misunderstood you?

Maybe he means organic video of it out in the wild vs a normal demo video?



No - I really meant the video of guitar not plugged into any amp

That gives you understanding how does it resonates

This is a great lesson. Learnt from greats like Clapton and Blackmore

It either sounds melodically good or not

My former strat - early Japanese Malmsteen strat - resonates like a grand piano unplugged.

After all electric guitar is still made of wood and IS a musical instrument

If it sounds good unplugged - than I don’t even need to plug It because it sounds great



Btw - there is no doubt that those reissued MadCats are amwzing
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Reply #36 posted 08/29/17 9:01pm

Knightoflight

vlammie said:

Knightoflight said:


I could judge ony from those demo videos - and Md Cat sounds very close to demo-ed Strat



The video of LImited Edition Mad Cta shows WAY different and unique sound



Still I am missing good unplugged video



Unplugged? With an electric guitar?
Even with really good microphones, that would be really hard to judge anything.
Or maybe I misunderstood you?


I meant something like this

https://youtu.be/7Xdg7y8oxf4
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Reply #37 posted 08/30/17 6:12am

vlammie

OK, so I just found out about "unboxing" videos, and now unplugged electric guitar demo's are a thing too? wink

All kidding aside, I also test electrics this way, I have bought multiple guitars in the past without plugging them into an amp.
But it's already hard to make a realistic recording of an amplified guitar, so impossible to make a truthful video of an unplugged one. All the nuances will get lost.
The only thing you will hear is how much new-string 'zing'it has...

I agree that trying it acoustic is really helpful, but you should feel it yourself, a video recording of this is almost pointless in my opinion.

And FYI, I am a sound engineer, I have mixed foh for thousands of people and recorded / mixed full albums. So I do know how to make decent recordings...
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Reply #38 posted 08/30/17 7:14am

Knightoflight

vlammie said:

OK, so I just found out about "unboxing" videos, and now unplugged electric guitar demo's are a thing too? wink All kidding aside, I also test electrics this way, I have bought multiple guitars in the past without plugging them into an amp. But it's already hard to make a realistic recording of an amplified guitar, so impossible to make a truthful video of an unplugged one. All the nuances will get lost. The only thing you will hear is how much new-string 'zing'it has... I agree that trying it acoustic is really helpful, but you should feel it yourself, a video recording of this is almost pointless in my opinion. And FYI, I am a sound engineer, I have mixed foh for thousands of people and recorded / mixed full albums. So I do know how to make decent recordings...

Danny,


No doubt here - just suggesting the other ways to promote those amazing guitars.

I`m grabbing one of those limited editions early next year

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Reply #39 posted 08/30/17 8:54am

crimesofparis

Knightoflight said:

No - I really meant the video of guitar not plugged into any amp That gives you understanding how does it resonates This is a great lesson. Learnt from greats like Clapton and Blackmore It either sounds melodically good or not My former strat - early Japanese Malmsteen strat - resonates like a PMO unplugged. After all electric guitar is still made of wood and IS a musical instrument If it sounds good unplugged - than I don’t even need to plug It because it sounds great

Yeah, I gotcha. Makes sense, but I'm not sure how well that would translate. I can imagine that when it's in your hands, for sure. After all, you can always swap out the electronics if you don't like them, but if the actual build sucks, there isn't much you can do about that.

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Reply #40 posted 08/30/17 10:31am

Knightoflight

crimesofparis said:

Knightoflight said:

No - I really meant the video of guitar not plugged into any amp That gives you understanding how does it resonates This is a great lesson. Learnt from greats like Clapton and Blackmore It either sounds melodically good or not My former strat - early Japanese Malmsteen strat - resonates like a PMO unplugged. After all electric guitar is still made of wood and IS a musical instrument If it sounds good unplugged - than I don’t even need to plug It because it sounds great

Yeah, I gotcha. Makes sense, but I'm not sure how well that would translate. I can imagine that when it's in your hands, for sure. After all, you can always swap out the electronics if you don't like them, but if the actual build sucks, there isn't much you can do about that.

"you can always swap out the electronics" - lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

anyway those guitar are amazing. I just believe they are not shooting uplugged video - because that would prove it is on par with Fender Custom Shop tele smile))

And as a proud owner of Fender Custom SHop 66 strat with Blackmore mods by his former tech I know what I am talking about


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Reply #41 posted 08/30/17 10:37am

Knightoflight

crimesofparis said:

Knightoflight said:

No - I really meant the video of guitar not plugged into any amp That gives you understanding how does it resonates This is a great lesson. Learnt from greats like Clapton and Blackmore It either sounds melodically good or not My former strat - early Japanese Malmsteen strat - resonates like a PMO unplugged. After all electric guitar is still made of wood and IS a musical instrument If it sounds good unplugged - than I don’t even need to plug It because it sounds great

Yeah, I gotcha. Makes sense, but I'm not sure how well that would translate. I can imagine that when it's in your hands, for sure. After all, you can always swap out the electronics if you don't like them, but if the actual build sucks, there isn't much you can do about that.

P.S. I would video when I get mine - but that would only be in May 2018

Here is a nice video of standard (non-limited edition) Mad Cat played by funny guy smile


https://www.youtube.com/w...n0FCBeOFEc

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