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Printablerdhull said: NuPwrSoul said: rdhull said: AlexHahn said: Hi, folks. I also replied to another thread about this book, the one about Jon Bream's review.
One final response: there's nothing in the book about Hepatitis C, contrary to lightndark's statement. Just wanted to clear that up. Hey Alex...whats your favorite B-side? "Hello" maybe?  ROFLMAO 
Alex is on his way to have a namecheck or song written about him ( see CJ BJB etc) See what you gotta do mayne? Get that book out, and you'll be in song no time flat. "That...magic, the start of something revolutionary-the Minneapolis Sound, we should cherish it and not punish prince for not being able to replicate it."-Dreamshaman32 | |
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NuPwrSoul said: rdhull said: NuPwrSoul said: rdhull said: AlexHahn said: Hi, folks. I also replied to another thread about this book, the one about Jon Bream's review.
One final response: there's nothing in the book about Hepatitis C, contrary to lightndark's statement. Just wanted to clear that up. Hey Alex...whats your favorite B-side? "Hello" maybe? ROFLMAO
Alex is on his way to have a namecheck or song written about him ( see CJ BJB etc) See what you gotta do mayne? Get that book out, and you'll be in song no time flat. lol Im hip ..but I aint got time for all that right now believe it or not lol."Climb in my fur." | |
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I'd say "Hello" may be my favorite B-side...the long version with that sped-up guitar solo at the beginning and in the middle...
I guess better a "Billy Jack Bitch"-like name check than a lawsuit...; ) | |
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AlexHahn said: I'd say "Hello" may be my favorite B-side...the long version with that sped-up guitar solo at the beginning and in the middle...
I guess better a "Billy Jack Bitch"-like name check than a lawsuit...; ) 
edit:btw good choice . [This message was edited Fri Apr 11 20:45:19 PDT 2003 by rdhull] "Climb in my fur." | |
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rdhull said: AaronSuperior said: NuPwrSoul said: AaronSuperior said: rdhull said: AaronSuperior said: the book clearly isn't meant to be about his music this is more of a psycho-analysis. Hahahahah no it's not. More like wannabe psycho-analysis but tabloid fodder and a personal issues take.yeah, well maybe so, but it's clearly not meant to be what some people want. why are people bitching because this guy wrote the book he wanted to write instead of the book they wanted him to write? it doesn't aim to be a book about his music. why bitch about that? we have those books already, done better than anyone else could: DMSR, Turn It Up, Days Of Wild. i just don't get people whining that there isn't more in-depth discussion of his music, when obviously that's not the purpose of the book. The book fails on *its own terms* in trying to be what it aspires to be. Lots of holes. yeah, fine, but that's not what this thread is complaining about. this thread is complaining about the author not delving into the musical history of his career, . wrong..its complaining about delving into tabloid stuff..the whiospers and rumors of how Prince is such a bad bad person no, it's complaining about things like not discussing how he got signed to his second WB contract, or how he came to create albums for people like the Time, and Apollonia, and stuff. | |
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Alex, since it seems I got the hepatitis C thing wrong, sorry. I might have mistakenly read that on a thread rather than in your book.
Even though I feel there are many holes in the book, I am still spending considerable time trying to finish it. Mr. Hahn, do you have any information on the guitar amplification Prince uses? | |
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Berry said: LightnDark said: Lovemachine, there are some key figures that were not interviewed or mentioned as denied interviews such as Jesse Johnson, Cat Glover, Sonny Thompson, Mayte, Patricia Kotero (Apollpnia). I feel these people could have provided key elements to his musical side.
Also, I believe that someone who barely drinks is not going to try a drug as controversial as ecstacy. Cocaine or weed maybe, but not heavy stuff. Remember ... this is only one's opinion... He drinks. Like a fish? She said "barely", never said he didn't drink at all...   I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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CalhounSq said: Berry said: LightnDark said: Lovemachine, there are some key figures that were not interviewed or mentioned as denied interviews such as Jesse Johnson, Cat Glover, Sonny Thompson, Mayte, Patricia Kotero (Apollpnia). I feel these people could have provided key elements to his musical side.
Also, I believe that someone who barely drinks is not going to try a drug as controversial as ecstacy. Cocaine or weed maybe, but not heavy stuff. Remember ... this is only one's opinion... He drinks. Like a fish? She said "barely", never said he didn't drink at all... He drinks wine...occasionaly. On a related note: I rememberin an interview, Bobby Z.(I think) said they(band memebers) used to call him square becuase he wouldn't even drink beer ~KiKi | |
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this book is great! Great entertainment... not proven fact, but a lot of fun to read... and a ot of it makes sense, and yes its irritating when he tells you what prince was thinking... he knows what he was thinking???!!!
but this book gives me exactly what i was looking for... gossip, scandal, hearsay, and a hint of insight. My art book: http://www.lulu.com/spotl...ecomicskid
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well. i just finished the book. i have to say that i enjoyed reading it, although i consider it to be seriously flawed. it makes the mistake of making subjective statements and treating them as fact. it also highlights and focuses almost exclusively on the negative, or the most "tabloid" aspects of Prince's history. I don't consider it balanced, at all... if anything the few positive comments about Prince the person are grudging. And there is far too little about the details of the music.
It was a moderately entertaining read, but that's about as far as it goes. Tabloid journalism. But hey. That's just my opinion. | |
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"(the fall of) Posessed - the Prince biography"... when did it ever rise?  I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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JonSnow said: well. i just finished the book. i have to say that i enjoyed reading it, although i consider it to be seriously flawed. it makes the mistake of making subjective statements and treating them as fact. it also highlights and focuses almost exclusively on the negative, or the most "tabloid" aspects of Prince's history. I don't consider it balanced, at all... if anything the few positive comments about Prince the person are grudging. And there is far too little about the details of the music.
It was a moderately entertaining read, but that's about as far as it goes. Tabloid journalism. But hey. That's just my opinion. I wouldn't say exclusively negative. It just showed why his career has taken such a nosedive! And it seems to mostly stem from NOT listening to people around him, thinking he just knew everything, who knew best in certain situations. And this is pretty common knowledge among most of us hardcore fans anyway. Yes, it did speak of his sexual relations, but this was not only to discuss his music but his life in general. I agree the book as a whole did have a slightly negative slant to it, but look at Prince's career...it's almost practically in the tank due to poor business decisions and a very small world he chooses to live in (though he lately seems to be opening up ever so slightly). I enjoyed the book, though I wish it concentrated on the musical aspect of his life (working with Tevin, reactions to certain outtakes that never saw the light of day officially, etc...) as much as his personal life. But, I guess that's what DMSR by Per is for! | |
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AaronSuperior said: why are people bitching because this guy wrote the book he wanted to write instead of the book they wanted him to write?
hmmm...i guess that question could be rephrased slightly and asked about any prince album...  | |
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ufoclub said: this book is great! Great entertainment... not proven fact, but a lot of fun to read... and a ot of it makes sense, and yes its irritating when he tells you what prince was thinking... he knows what he was thinking???!!!
but this book gives me exactly what i was looking for... gossip, scandal, hearsay, and a hint of insight. We had Liz Jones for that, what does Alex bring to the table yet to be covered in the world of Prince books? | |
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alexnvrmnd said: JonSnow said: well. i just finished the book. i have to say that i enjoyed reading it, although i consider it to be seriously flawed. it makes the mistake of making subjective statements and treating them as fact. it also highlights and focuses almost exclusively on the negative, or the most "tabloid" aspects of Prince's history. I don't consider it balanced, at all... if anything the few positive comments about Prince the person are grudging. And there is far too little about the details of the music.
It was a moderately entertaining read, but that's about as far as it goes. Tabloid journalism. But hey. That's just my opinion. I wouldn't say exclusively negative. It just showed why his career has taken such a nosedive! And it seems to mostly stem from NOT listening to people around him, thinking he just knew everything, who knew best in certain situations. And this is pretty common knowledge among most of us hardcore fans anyway. Yes, it did speak of his sexual relations, but this was not only to discuss his music but his life in general. I agree the book as a whole did have a slightly negative slant to it, but look at Prince's career...it's almost practically in the tank due to poor business decisions and a very small world he chooses to live in (though he lately seems to be opening up ever so slightly). I enjoyed the book, though I wish it concentrated on the musical aspect of his life (working with Tevin, reactions to certain outtakes that never saw the light of day officially, etc...) as much as his personal life. But, I guess that's what DMSR by Per is for! The book makes him come off like an egomaniacal, half-demented, cruel, shallow, petulent, sex fiend. Hey - wait a minute - maybe it is accurate
Seriously though... it allows room for NO redeeming qualities to be found... and i find that hard to be the case. There have to be some positives. And yeah, I hear ya on the reactions to certain outtakes. That would have been very cool... | |
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Every Artist's successful "pop" career fades..
It's called maturity... An entertainer's youthful "fad-driven" fanbase: 1) gets older 2) marries 3) sobers-up and begins to attend church (and tell their children to not have the "fun" that they had. )
4) are no longer the "club-hopping" sexpots they were in their previous lives..and 5) buy fewer CDs! Most of them are content with allowing the past to be the past. This scenario is definitely true for African American artists If you "cross-over", you're gone. You get corrupt writers and critics who really want to see your sales drop for various reasons.. They've "written-off" Prince well before "Parade" and "Kiss". Prince was washed-up after "Dirty Mind"!! No doubt. Prince, Warner Brothers, and his management team have made some bad mistakes. One being his refusal to tour the US with SOTT, instead of making the concert film. People were angry because the Album was hot! he fell in love with Europe at the expense of his influence in the States. He moved on. The "fickle and the fairweather" listeners did the same. It's not like Mr.Nelson is acting like those days will return. Why should you? That aside, Prince hasn't made too many more mistakes than most "stars". Why else did VH1 create "Behind The Music"? Plus I've already read most of what Hahn wrote for free on the www! You've been suckered! [This message was edited Sun Apr 13 11:56:42 PDT 2003 by NGSPW7200] | |
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I would like to state, purely from one person’s viewpoint, that the comments from ufoclub’s on down are of the highest quality. They are rebuttals that show logic and understating of the topic and of Prince himself.
Although Prince’s career has declined in terms of mass popularity, I feel he is still one of the most important figures in pop (a term used very broadly) music of the late 20th/early 21st century. Why else would someone spend time and energy writing a book on him in the first place? It seems he hurt some of the people in his inner circle throughout his career, but haven’t all of us hurt someone we know and love as well? I know that there are episodes from my past that I would change if I had the power to do so. I look forward to Prince’s upcoming music releases—including possibly joining his NPGMC—and I also look forward to growing as a person in my own life. I hope that didn’t get off the track of the original topic, but stream of conscience is what it is… | |
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