leadline said:

Michael never really had the chance to grow up, he had the mentality and emotional state of a school boy up until the day he passed. Guess that is the price you pay for having your childhood taken from you.

Not sure what Prince was gettin at by playing bass in his face, maybe he just wanted to do it cause it rhymed.

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So true! Michael was abused as a child and never got to have a normal childhood. All he really ever wanted was to love and be loved, in return. Yes, he was adored by his fans, but I don't think he ever really got any "real love" from those who were close to him.

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Prince had a lot of respect for MJ and I think playing the bass in his face was his way of saying "hey, thanks for being here", but then again, Prince could be arrogant too! But, I really don't think he meant any harm.

purplerabbithole said:

Prince was an oddball womanizing eccentric who was hard to understand, was sometimes paranoid and socially awkward, overzealously religious, and had a snarky and somewhat cut-throat competitive streak. But Prince's worst qualities were mostly apparent and his better qualities of humor, tenderness, artistic intregrity, individuality, work ethic, genuine spirituality and even generosity (to this day) are underrated and underrappreciated. His more tragic qualities are still being determined.

MJ, on the other hand, I can't relate to in anyway whatsoever. He comes off so nice and frail and little boyish. He's like an alien to me. He seems absolutely phony (and I am not saying that because he was effeminate. I don't question the sincerity of effeminate men, just him).. I have tried to watch and listen to interviews of his and I can never get through them. PLus, I suspect that he could be fiercely competitive and might even be (in some ways) more egotistical than Prince was (at least as an artist). The child molesting accusations I have trouble wrapping my head around. A part of me thinks he was completely innocent but another part of me thinks that MJ was still inappropriate in some ways. (I am leaning toward innocent because MJ was reverting back to childhood in many ways.) I remember reading about biographer J. randy Tarraborelli (who wrote a balanced book about the complicated and contradictory Sinatra). He threw his hands up in dismay when he attempted a MJ biography...its like you could see MJ in action but you could never understand him even in moments or increments. When I watch a Prince interview (like on Tavis Smiley) or listen to radio interviews, there are moments when Prince is confounding, enigmatic, and confusing. But there are also moments where he is believably normal. He could shoot the breeze.He could joke convincingly in radio interviews about ghetto cake, basketball, tv shows, and condoms on cruise boats.. MJ never seemed capable of normalcy even in moments..

I think P admired MJ and maybe even sympathized with him but I also think he thought he was kind of full of crap and resented MJ's subtle superior attitude (asking Prince to play the Wesley Snipes character in Bad wasn quite frankly insulting---the first line of the song is MJ showing up Prince presumably..Why would Prince ever agree to that??). . Prince liked to tease. MJ didn't seem to able to roll with the punches or take a joke or fire back without crying to his friends or leaving in a huff. Prince being competitive while playing bass to MJ's face (in a setting that no one but MJ's circle saw)was no big deal. WillIam saw it as no big deal and he was probably right.

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My thoughts, exactly!!

jcurley said:

daniorU said:

Bruno Mars more talented than Michael Jackson?

Oh yeh I'm gonna change my mind now!!! Yes he is. He's mire diverse both musically n vocally. Are you serious MJ fan? I don't get how you can even think about him if you're a prince fan. God When Dices Cry, if I was your Girlfriend, Raspberry Beret then listen ti the song Thriller or Bad, it's like saying a hot dog is as good as fillet steak coz you don't need teeth to chew it. I'll even be contentious as to say Prince is a better dancer. Thieves un the Temple, Housequake in Sign o the Tines. His pirouettes. Like his guitar work it suffers from not being a single point if focus. MJ is very visual,who everyone around him in the video can di the same. MJ fans have ruined it for me by comparing him to prince. Instead of enjoying pure pop n entertainment for what it is. Pure pop spectacle. I've spent 33yrs having to bat off this bullshit comparison. Christ I wouldn't even register MJ if it wasn't for these stupid comparisons. When I was 11 Beat sit was out ,I thought oh that's catchy. When Dives Cry Came out n I thought good god. I could see it was a game changer. Prince is the only "pop" act I've purchased. That's not being arrogant, liking mj n elevating ut to genius coz one likes it is arrogance. MJ is not a musical revelation. Isn't it enough he's a very catchy pop star. God this shit fucks me off. People seem to be so wilfully retarded it depressed the shut out of me.

Oh Ok,you are a MJ hater,cool!

By the way,I replied to you only because the statement "there are several successors of MJ,and more talented e.g Bruno Mars".

This is an insane statement,imho.

Bruno Mars

bonatoc said:

For the record, my first heavy rotation record was Thriller. I spent half of my twelfth year evenings with my walkman and an original CrO2 K7 release. Michael will always be Michael.

I was just trying to imagine what went up in Prince's mind at the moment.
I don't think we can expect what we would call "normal" reactions on stage from these two folks, where you have to fully embody the persona you built, in order to perform.
Meaning this Prince show-off did not necessarily reflect Prince's feelings about Michael (cf. the kind words about Michael during the press conference where Prince announced he was now Prince-formerly-known-as-the-artist-formerly-known-as-Prince).

And I think Prince was the one who was boasting about it the most, because it's fair to say that Prince had to overcome more challenges to reach global superstardom, whereas Michael's pop royalty was already acquired since the childhood (again, not diminishing Michael's subsequent own achievements).

But it also could be a problem of interpretation of the gesture: what if Prince was genuinely dedicating a piece of funk to Michael without any afterthoughts, and it's only Michael's paranoia mixed with will.i.am's mischevious judgment that turned this bass slap into an ass slap?

You might be right.

daniorU said:

jcurley said:

daniorU said: Oh yeh I'm gonna change my mind now!!! Yes he is. He's mire diverse both musically n vocally. Are you serious MJ fan? I don't get how you can even think about him if you're a prince fan. God When Dices Cry, if I was your Girlfriend, Raspberry Beret then listen ti the song Thriller or Bad, it's like saying a hot dog is as good as fillet steak coz you don't need teeth to chew it. I'll even be contentious as to say Prince is a better dancer. Thieves un the Temple, Housequake in Sign o the Tines. His pirouettes. Like his guitar work it suffers from not being a single point if focus. MJ is very visual,who everyone around him in the video can di the same. MJ fans have ruined it for me by comparing him to prince. Instead of enjoying pure pop n entertainment for what it is. Pure pop spectacle. I've spent 33yrs having to bat off this bullshit comparison. Christ I wouldn't even register MJ if it wasn't for these stupid comparisons. When I was 11 Beat sit was out ,I thought oh that's catchy. When Dives Cry Came out n I thought good god. I could see it was a game changer. Prince is the only "pop" act I've purchased. That's not being arrogant, liking mj n elevating ut to genius coz one likes it is arrogance. MJ is not a musical revelation. Isn't it enough he's a very catchy pop star. God this shit fucks me off. People seem to be so wilfully retarded it depressed the shut out of me.

Oh Ok,you are a MJ hater,cool!

By the way,I replied to you only because the statement "there are several successors of MJ,and more talented e.g Bruno Mars".

This is an insane statement,imho.

He is a MJ hater

All I can deduce from this post is that some of you know sh!t about music, Michael or Prince.

A lot of what happened with Thriller/Purple Rain was down to great timing but at the end of the day a whole lot of talent, and the music still stands even if the era has changed.

Let's not forget MJ was a megastar before Quincy, he was only an enhancement leading to great achievement. Quincy did not make MJ he had success beyond belief, before and after Q.

I love Prince but as talented and original, he released one hell of a lot of dudd's and nothing about his process had anything to do with quality. An expectional live act, but in the studio he badly needed some editing and outside input.

If you are going to compare both of their late 70's/early 80's output, MJ was miles ahead of the game and Prince caught up. That is fact.

But after all is said and done, they are completely different artists and only comparable because the media set-up, their styles and agenda were completely different.

Bruno Mars, please

kremlinshadow said:

All I can deduce from this post is that some of you know sh!t about music, Michael or Prince.

A lot of what happened with Thriller/Purple Rain was down to great timing but at the end of the day a whole lot of talent, and the music still stands even if the era has changed.

Let's not forget MJ was a megastar before Quincy, he was only an enhancement leading to great achievement. Quincy did not make MJ he had success beyond belief, before and after Q.

I love Prince but as talented and original, he released one hell of a lot of dudd's and nothing about his process had anything to do with quality. An expectional live act, but in the studio he badly needed some editing and outside input.

If you are going to compare both of their late 70's/early 80's output, MJ was miles ahead of the game and Prince caught up. That is fact.

But after all is said and done, they are completely different artists and only comparable because the media set-up, their styles and agenda were completely different.

Bruno Mars, please

I think I see what you're getting at in terms of mass appeal with no dilution but Dirty Mind is pretty ahead of most music that came out in 1980. It was definitely too edgy for the pop charts but that's a side Prince always had that MJ lacked, you can't be ahead in a race you haven't even entered you know?

Marrk said:

Will.i.am never tells this story the same way twice and as far as I'm aware, nobody has ever corroborated it either.

Chris Tucker did in one of his stand ups before will told this version

rogifan said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Well said. They both had a unique talent that will never be matched. People will follow in their footsteps, but nothing/no one will ever take the place of Prince or Michael.

Prince had more talent in his pinky finger than MJ ever had. IMHO of course. I hate that if you’re a Prince fan it’s automatically assumed that you must be an MJ fan too. But I know many are and god forbid anyone say the slightest wrong thing about MJ. I once said on Facebook (in a Prince group) that MJ could never have written a song like When Doves Cry. Ooh boy that didn’t go over well.

MJ, D'Angelo, Lanny Kravitz - people around me always expect i dearly love and listen those three, but in reality i'm mumbling why i need those three when Prince is 3 in 1 package

All I know is that I would listen to Days of Wild, I love you but I don't trust you any more, Ripopgodazippa, Damn U, Revelation, 3121, Love, The Love we make, Shhhh, Black Sweat, 7, "God Created Women" and many songs from Prince's supposed 'dud' period any day of the week over some of MJ's songs from his peak period..."Bad" don't do shit for me (completely inappropriate song for someone like MJ imo).

Its all about personal preference and I am no hater. I think "Human Nature" is one of the most beautiful songs ever. I am a big fan of "Man in the Mirror", "PYT", "Billie Jean", "Beat it", and "Don't Stop til you get enough" etc. But songs like "Black and White" and "Heal the World" don't work for me at all. They are too sappy in my opinion.

Prince has a ton of music. He has duds but he also has a lot of great underrated music. Michael has some hits I don't at all like.

Back to Bad, it may sound sacrilegious but i haven't liked that song since it came out. Oddly, I think it might be the first song of his I didn't like.

I agree with what Robin Williams once said about the song Bad during a Johnny Carson appearance. He said that Michael wasn't bad (as in badass) but rather ethereal and harmless.

kremlinshadow said:

All I can deduce from this post is that some of you know sh!t about music, Michael or Prince.

A lot of what happened with Thriller/Purple Rain was down to great timing but at the end of the day a whole lot of talent, and the music still stands even if the era has changed.

Let's not forget MJ was a megastar before Quincy, he was only an enhancement leading to great achievement. Quincy did not make MJ he had success beyond belief, before and after Q.

I love Prince but as talented and original, he released one hell of a lot of dudd's and nothing about his process had anything to do with quality. An expectional live act, but in the studio he badly needed some editing and outside input.

If you are going to compare both of their late 70's/early 80's output, MJ was miles ahead of the game and Prince caught up. That is fact.

But after all is said and done, they are completely different artists and only comparable because the media set-up, their styles and agenda were completely different.

Bruno Mars, please

BlueShakooo said:

I thought Michael was there incognito, so it was just Prince acknowledging Michael without giving him away to the rest of the audience.

lrn36 said:

I thought Michael was there incognito, so it was just Prince acknowledging Michael without giving him away to the rest of the audience.

Actually he was incognito, and you are right.

Marrk said:

Will.i.am never tells this story the same way twice and as far as I'm aware, nobody has ever corroborated it either.

Actually Chris Tucker did during one of his shows, he talked about Prince coming over to where him and Micheal was, and Will said Chris was with them in Vegas. Below is the link. I bet Prince has footage of this, he tapes all his shows. I hope we see it one day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2u3XDD1wqE

Whenever MJ fans speak of P they always have to go into a pre-sequitor about MJ...I think it's because they feel as if they're betraying MJ to enjoy P and that also fuels the MJ fans need to perpetuate the myth that P and MJ were somehow friends and "respected each other"...

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I've yet to hear a P fan care one way or the other if P was friends with MJ or if MJ "respected" P...Honestly, the only ones who care are MJ fans...It doesn't sit well with them that there are P fans who are indifferent to MJ...It hurts their pride and they feel MJ needs defending and that P fans are bitter and disrespectfull not to acknowledge what MJ fans feel is MJ's "greatness" or whatever...

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It has nothing to do with trying to compare who wrote more songs, won more awards, sold more records...Even P being an Academy Award winner has less to do with my being a P fan cuz I was a fan long before P won the Oscar...

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I've never heard a fan of any other performer say that to a P fan if the P fan doesn't like that performer...But to hear MJ fans, anyone who simply doesn't care about MJ is defensive, bitter, jealous, mean, rude, insecure...It's a years long pattern of MJ fan ideology so ingrained that it's in their DNA...Seriously...

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MJ didn't like P...S'ok...So what?...I'm not upset by that...

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P liked to toy with MJ cuz he was a weak and easy target...So?...That's real life in the big bad world of grownazzed men...

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They weren't friends...and no amount of MJ fan art portraying them hugging and looking friendly will change that...and that's okay that they weren't friends...

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You like MJ?...Good for you...Enjoy...

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Doesn't mean as a P fan that my indifference is anything more than indifference...as in I don't give any effs about MJ...He doesn't move me with anything he does...nothing...it all falls flat for me...period...And I've seen him perform live several times so if it was gonna affect me, it would've...it doesn't...

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I don't know how to explain it any better than that...although I fully expect now the MJ fans will feel they have to try to convince me what a "genius" MJ is in their eyes...and if I continue to disagree, I'm stoopit, bitter, lonely, rude, insecure and defensive...

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Whatever...

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stpaisios said:

rogifan said:

cloveringold85 said: Prince had more talent in his pinky finger than MJ ever had. IMHO of course. I hate that if you’re a Prince fan it’s automatically assumed that you must be an MJ fan too. But I know many are and god forbid anyone say the slightest wrong thing about MJ. I once said on Facebook (in a Prince group) that MJ could never have written a song like When Doves Cry. Ooh boy that didn’t go over well.

MJ, D'Angelo, Lanny Kravitz - people around me always expect i dearly love and listen those three, but in reality i'm mumbling why i need those three when Prince is 3 in 1 package

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Yes, true!

LBrent said:

Whenever MJ fans speak of P they always have to go into a pre-sequitor about MJ...I think it's because they feel as if they're betraying MJ to enjoy P and that also fuels the MJ fans need to perpetuate the myth that P and MJ were somehow friends and "respected each other"...

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I've yet to hear a P fan care one way or the other if P was friends with MJ or if MJ "respected" P...Honestly, the only ones who care are MJ fans...It doesn't sit well with them that there are P fans who are indifferent to MJ...It hurts their pride and they feel MJ needs defending and that P fans are bitter and disrespectfull not to acknowledge what MJ fans feel is MJ's "greatness" or whatever...

.

It has nothing to do with trying to compare who wrote more songs, won more awards, sold more records...Even P being an Academy Award winner has less to do with my being a P fan cuz I was a fan long before P won the Oscar...

.

I've never heard a fan of any other performer say that to a P fan if the P fan doesn't like that performer...But to hear MJ fans, anyone who simply doesn't care about MJ is defensive, bitter, jealous, mean, rude, insecure...It's a years long pattern of MJ fan ideology so ingrained that it's in their DNA...Seriously...

.

MJ didn't like P...S'ok...So what?...I'm not upset by that...

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P liked to toy with MJ cuz he was a weak and easy target...So?...That's real life in the big bad world of grownazzed men...

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They weren't friends...and no amount of MJ fan art portraying them hugging and looking friendly will change that...and that's okay that they weren't friends...

.

You like MJ?...Good for you...Enjoy...

.

Doesn't mean as a P fan that my indifference is anything more than indifference...as in I don't give any effs about MJ...He doesn't move me with anything he does...nothing...it all falls flat for me...period...And I've seen him perform live several times so if it was gonna affect me, it would've...it doesn't...

.

I don't know how to explain it any better than that...although I fully expect now the MJ fans will feel they have to try to convince me what a "genius" MJ is in their eyes...and if I continue to disagree, I'm stoopit, bitter, lonely, rude, insecure and defensive...

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Whatever...

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I have great respect for MJ as an artist/performer; he's a legend. I love Prince! They were both different, yet unique artists and both legends. Prince will always be my honey!!

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I miss them both.

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We were incredibly blessed to have them both, even though for a short while.

cloveringold85 said:

LBrent said:

Whenever MJ fans speak of P they always have to go into a pre-sequitor about MJ...I think it's because they feel as if they're betraying MJ to enjoy P and that also fuels the MJ fans need to perpetuate the myth that P and MJ were somehow friends and "respected each other"...

.

I've yet to hear a P fan care one way or the other if P was friends with MJ or if MJ "respected" P...Honestly, the only ones who care are MJ fans...It doesn't sit well with them that there are P fans who are indifferent to MJ...It hurts their pride and they feel MJ needs defending and that P fans are bitter and disrespectfull not to acknowledge what MJ fans feel is MJ's "greatness" or whatever...

.

It has nothing to do with trying to compare who wrote more songs, won more awards, sold more records...Even P being an Academy Award winner has less to do with my being a P fan cuz I was a fan long before P won the Oscar...

.

I've never heard a fan of any other performer say that to a P fan if the P fan doesn't like that performer...But to hear MJ fans, anyone who simply doesn't care about MJ is defensive, bitter, jealous, mean, rude, insecure...It's a years long pattern of MJ fan ideology so ingrained that it's in their DNA...Seriously...

.

MJ didn't like P...S'ok...So what?...I'm not upset by that...

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P liked to toy with MJ cuz he was a weak and easy target...So?...That's real life in the big bad world of grownazzed men...

.

They weren't friends...and no amount of MJ fan art portraying them hugging and looking friendly will change that...and that's okay that they weren't friends...

.

You like MJ?...Good for you...Enjoy...

.

Doesn't mean as a P fan that my indifference is anything more than indifference...as in I don't give any effs about MJ...He doesn't move me with anything he does...nothing...it all falls flat for me...period...And I've seen him perform live several times so if it was gonna affect me, it would've...it doesn't...

.

I don't know how to explain it any better than that...although I fully expect now the MJ fans will feel they have to try to convince me what a "genius" MJ is in their eyes...and if I continue to disagree, I'm stoopit, bitter, lonely, rude, insecure and defensive...

.

Whatever...

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I have great respect for MJ as an artist/performer; he's a legend. I love Prince! They were both different, yet unique artists and both legends. Prince will always be my honey!!

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I miss them both.

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We were incredibly blessed to have them both, even though for a short while.

That's great...But even if you didn't care for P, that'd be okay too in my opinion...

Sometimes i feel like some Prince, sometimes Michael. With Michael, there are deep, dark depressing cuts most Prince fans won't have bothered with as dismissive as they are of the so-called 'Pop Star'. They show depth and integrity. 'Morphine', 'Little Susie', 'Stranger in Moscow' and 'Scared of the Moon' spring to mind.

'When Doves Cry' is regularly cited as a Prince song Michael couldn't write. Goes both ways though. Really does. It's not like i sit there comparing while i'm listening, but on occasion I'll be thinking "Nobody else could do that".

I feel i can say that safely and with a bit of authority owning nearly everything i can by both.

LBrent said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I have great respect for MJ as an artist/performer; he's a legend. I love Prince! They were both different, yet unique artists and both legends. Prince will always be my honey!!

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I miss them both.

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We were incredibly blessed to have them both, even though for a short while.

That's great...But even if you didn't care for P, that'd be okay too in my opinion...

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I'm not one of those people who feel if they love Prince that they can't also love Michael. I grew up with the Jackson 5 and ABC, 123.....I'll be there, Ben......all a big part of my childhood. Michael was loved and adored around the world, and so was Prince!

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You rock my world, ya know you did. Blood on the dancefloor.......When Doves Cry......I wanna be your Lover......don't stop till you get enough! LOL

cloveringold85 said:

LBrent said:

Whenever MJ fans speak of P they always have to go into a pre-sequitor about MJ...I think it's because they feel as if they're betraying MJ to enjoy P and that also fuels the MJ fans need to perpetuate the myth that P and MJ were somehow friends and "respected each other"...

.

I've yet to hear a P fan care one way or the other if P was friends with MJ or if MJ "respected" P...Honestly, the only ones who care are MJ fans...It doesn't sit well with them that there are P fans who are indifferent to MJ...It hurts their pride and they feel MJ needs defending and that P fans are bitter and disrespectfull not to acknowledge what MJ fans feel is MJ's "greatness" or whatever...

.

It has nothing to do with trying to compare who wrote more songs, won more awards, sold more records...Even P being an Academy Award winner has less to do with my being a P fan cuz I was a fan long before P won the Oscar...

.

I've never heard a fan of any other performer say that to a P fan if the P fan doesn't like that performer...But to hear MJ fans, anyone who simply doesn't care about MJ is defensive, bitter, jealous, mean, rude, insecure...It's a years long pattern of MJ fan ideology so ingrained that it's in their DNA...Seriously...

.

MJ didn't like P...S'ok...So what?...I'm not upset by that...

.

P liked to toy with MJ cuz he was a weak and easy target...So?...That's real life in the big bad world of grownazzed men...

.

They weren't friends...and no amount of MJ fan art portraying them hugging and looking friendly will change that...and that's okay that they weren't friends...

.

You like MJ?...Good for you...Enjoy...

.

Doesn't mean as a P fan that my indifference is anything more than indifference...as in I don't give any effs about MJ...He doesn't move me with anything he does...nothing...it all falls flat for me...period...And I've seen him perform live several times so if it was gonna affect me, it would've...it doesn't...

.

I don't know how to explain it any better than that...although I fully expect now the MJ fans will feel they have to try to convince me what a "genius" MJ is in their eyes...and if I continue to disagree, I'm stoopit, bitter, lonely, rude, insecure and defensive...

.

Whatever...

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[Edited 7/12/17 14:21pm]

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I have great respect for MJ as an artist/performer; he's a legend. I love Prince! They were both different, yet unique artists and both legends. Prince will always be my honey!!

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I miss them both.

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We were incredibly blessed to have them both, even though for a short while.

You are one of the few left sane Prince fans on this site, god I love you!

mjscarousal said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I have great respect for MJ as an artist/performer; he's a legend. I love Prince! They were both different, yet unique artists and both legends. Prince will always be my honey!!

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I miss them both.

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We were incredibly blessed to have them both, even though for a short while.

You are one of the few left sane Prince fans on this site, god I love you!

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That is one of the sweetest things anyone has said to me since I joined the Org! LOL

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My heartfelt thanks, and I love you, too!

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"You rock my world", you "sexy dancer!!" LMAOO!!

cloveringold85 said:

LBrent said:

Whenever MJ fans speak of P they always have to go into a pre-sequitor about MJ...I think it's because they feel as if they're betraying MJ to enjoy P and that also fuels the MJ fans need to perpetuate the myth that P and MJ were somehow friends and "respected each other"...

.

I've yet to hear a P fan care one way or the other if P was friends with MJ or if MJ "respected" P...Honestly, the only ones who care are MJ fans...It doesn't sit well with them that there are P fans who are indifferent to MJ...It hurts their pride and they feel MJ needs defending and that P fans are bitter and disrespectfull not to acknowledge what MJ fans feel is MJ's "greatness" or whatever...

.

It has nothing to do with trying to compare who wrote more songs, won more awards, sold more records...Even P being an Academy Award winner has less to do with my being a P fan cuz I was a fan long before P won the Oscar...

.

I've never heard a fan of any other performer say that to a P fan if the P fan doesn't like that performer...But to hear MJ fans, anyone who simply doesn't care about MJ is defensive, bitter, jealous, mean, rude, insecure...It's a years long pattern of MJ fan ideology so ingrained that it's in their DNA...Seriously...

.

MJ didn't like P...S'ok...So what?...I'm not upset by that...

.

P liked to toy with MJ cuz he was a weak and easy target...So?...That's real life in the big bad world of grownazzed men...

.

They weren't friends...and no amount of MJ fan art portraying them hugging and looking friendly will change that...and that's okay that they weren't friends...

.

You like MJ?...Good for you...Enjoy...

.

Doesn't mean as a P fan that my indifference is anything more than indifference...as in I don't give any effs about MJ...He doesn't move me with anything he does...nothing...it all falls flat for me...period...And I've seen him perform live several times so if it was gonna affect me, it would've...it doesn't...

.

I don't know how to explain it any better than that...although I fully expect now the MJ fans will feel they have to try to convince me what a "genius" MJ is in their eyes...and if I continue to disagree, I'm stoopit, bitter, lonely, rude, insecure and defensive...

.

Whatever...

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[Edited 7/12/17 14:21pm]

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I have great respect for MJ as an artist/performer; he's a legend. I love Prince! They were both different, yet unique artists and both legends. Prince will always be my honey!!

.

I miss them both.

.

We were incredibly blessed to have them both, even though for a short while.

cloveringold85 said:

LBrent said:

That's great...But even if you didn't care for P, that'd be okay too in my opinion...

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I'm not one of those people who feel if they love Prince that they can't also love Michael. I grew up with the Jackson 5 and ABC, 123.....I'll be there, Ben......all a big part of my childhood. Michael was loved and adored around the world, and so was Prince!

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You rock my world, ya know you did. Blood on the dancefloor.......When Doves Cry......I wanna be your Lover......don't stop till you get enough! LOL

This is what is meant in my comment above regarding pre-sequitors...

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Notice the requisite MJ pre-appology/pre-history/pre-approval from other MJ fans so they won't judge or turn on her before she can safely deliver her P compliment?...Interesting, in a Pavlovian response sorta way...

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Just sayin...

LBrent said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I'm not one of those people who feel if they love Prince that they can't also love Michael. I grew up with the Jackson 5 and ABC, 123.....I'll be there, Ben......all a big part of my childhood. Michael was loved and adored around the world, and so was Prince!

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You rock my world, ya know you did. Blood on the dancefloor.......When Doves Cry......I wanna be your Lover......don't stop till you get enough! LOL

This is what is meant in my comment above regarding pre-sequitors...

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Notice the requisite MJ pre-appology/pre-history/pre-approval from other MJ fans so they won't judge or turn on her before she can safely deliver her P compliment?...Interesting, in a Pavlovian response sorta way...

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Just sayin...

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LBrent: I know what I mean when I say it, and I don't really need someone to overly-analyze the meaning behind what I'm trying to convey. Like I said, I love both Michael and Prince. I guess that is too hard for some people to grasp? But then again, I'm not an average person, with average thoughts, feelings, etc. I am an independent thinker and I love what I love. Please, don't misconstrue what I'm trying to say here. Often times people on the Org want to rip apart what the other person is trying to say, and change it's meaning, and it's just not nice.

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Am I too sensitive? Yes that too! I'm just being me, and you don't have to like it.

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Michael and Prince were also loving, kind and sensitive. And, that is one of many things that I loved about them both.

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Peace!

cloveringold85 said:

LBrent said:

This is what is meant in my comment above regarding pre-sequitors...

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Notice the requisite MJ pre-appology/pre-history/pre-approval from other MJ fans so they won't judge or turn on her before she can safely deliver her P compliment?...Interesting, in a Pavlovian response sorta way...

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Just sayin...

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LBrent: I know what I mean when I say it, and I don't really need someone to overly-analyze the meaning behind what I'm trying to convey. Like I said, I love both Michael and Prince. I guess that is too hard for some people to grasp? But then again, I'm not an average person, with average thoughts, feelings, etc. I am an independent thinker and I love what I love. Please, don't misconstrue what I'm trying to say here. Often times people on the Org want to rip apart what the other person is trying to say, and change it's meaning, and it's just not nice.

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Am I too sensitive? Yes that too! I'm just being me, and you don't have to like it.

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Michael and Prince were also loving, kind and sensitive. And, that is one of many things that I loved about them both.

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Peace!

I completely understand...

LBrent said:

cloveringold85 said:

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LBrent: I know what I mean when I say it, and I don't really need someone to overly-analyze the meaning behind what I'm trying to convey. Like I said, I love both Michael and Prince. I guess that is too hard for some people to grasp? But then again, I'm not an average person, with average thoughts, feelings, etc. I am an independent thinker and I love what I love. Please, don't misconstrue what I'm trying to say here. Often times people on the Org want to rip apart what the other person is trying to say, and change it's meaning, and it's just not nice.

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Am I too sensitive? Yes that too! I'm just being me, and you don't have to like it.

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Michael and Prince were also loving, kind and sensitive. And, that is one of many things that I loved about them both.

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Peace!

I completely understand...

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I'm not pre-apologizing, or seeking pre-approval from anyone. I just want to make myself very clear about that. Maybe it appears that way to some, but that's not the way I think.

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If someone likes Prince but doesn't like MJ or vice versa; that fine....that's them, not me.

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cloveringold85 said:

LBrent said:

I completely understand...

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I'm not pre-apologizing, or seeking pre-approval from anyone. I just want to make myself very clear about that. Maybe it appears that way to some, but that's not the way I think.

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If someone likes Prince but doesn't like MJ or vice versa; that fine....that's them, not me.

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M'kay...Noted...

I love both of them as artists, altough Mike is my favorite artist, Prince is my second favorite artist but not to far from Mike and then Bob Dylan and Stevie Wonder. I have no problems loving both artists.

cloveringold85 said:

LBrent said:

That's great...But even if you didn't care for P, that'd be okay too in my opinion...

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I'm not one of those people who feel if they love Prince that they can't also love Michael. I grew up with the Jackson 5 and ABC, 123.....I'll be there, Ben......all a big part of my childhood. Michael was loved and adored around the world, and so was Prince!

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You rock my world, ya know you did. Blood on the dancefloor.......When Doves Cry......I wanna be your Lover......don't stop till you get enough! LOL

Not true...I lived in the Philippines for 2 years 2011 to 2013....they had no clue at all who Prince was...but they knew who MJ, John Cena & the kardashians were....so loved & adored ALL around the world= not true.