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PrintableTheFreakerFantastic said:
Yes, according to one of the Bio's I've read (DMSR or Possessed?) there was a popular INXS song at the time, Mediate, that used these phrases but on further investigation it seems that song was not released until 1987 which somewhat disproves that theory. According to Princevault it was originally from a 1965 Bob Dylan song, Subbterranean Homesick Blues. Perhaps this was one of the reasons it wasn't released along with the content of the lyrics
[Edited 6/25/17 1:47am] I can't believe how much I see this untruth repeated. "Wondeful Ass" has nothing to do with Bob Dylan, least of all "Subterranean Homesick Blues." INXS released "Mediate," which strongly resembles the bridge of "Wonderful Ass," in 1987, some four years after this recording of "Wonderful Ass" was created. The video for "Mediate" took the idea of guy flipping cards with large handwritten lyric excerpts directly from Dylan's 1965 film/video for "Subterranean Homesick Blues." To recap: "Mediate" borrowed its video concept from Dylan and its music from Prince. How people have turned this into Prince stealing from Dylan is mystifying. | |
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well said! "Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!" |
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Can't be correct. Is there even any guitar on this version? The wooh is on the one! | |
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yes there is...
3:30 ish...let me turn on some lights....is that better.... [Edited 6/25/17 14:31pm] "Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!" |
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Hm. Yes, that could be guitar. Or bass? Or even synths? The two last notes of that phrase sound like they're played on keyboard. Anyway doesn't sound like Wendy. Too effortless for that. The wooh is on the one! | |
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well contact PV i guess.... (what is funny is i have had the last part of this for a long time i never payed attention!) "Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!" |
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Wonderful Ass took inspiration from Dylan? | |
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I know we don't always agree on some things...but this is very well written and I 100% agree with what you wrote! | |
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Well, Princevault actually stated this, not me, although since this morning it has been removed (but you can see it was there if you look at the History tab). But what you say also doesn't make sense as how could INXS have copied Prince if he had never even released that track?! LOL. I think certain fans who seem to think Prince never copied or borrowed from anyone else needs to do some musical research!
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Romeoblu said:
Would be great to hear that second version, as I love this version.
Not what I was really expecting from the descriptions given a few weeks ago. Maybe those where about the second version. I was expecting something slower,darker.
Is it radically different?
Yes, me too I was expecting a much more morose song, but I love the odd feel of it... | |
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Prince borrowed lots--but not this. The timing doesn't work for Mediate, which is later than Prince's recording. There's no real connection from Prince to Bob, since Subterranean Homesick Blues doesn't have any lyrical similarity to Wonderful Ass. Yes, there are short lines that are rhymed, but none of them are on an "-ate" ending, and, if Mediate (which Prince couldn't have heard or stolen from) didn't have a video that parodied SHB there would be no confusion. But that parody is a VISUAL one, and has nothing to do with lyrics, and there's no lyrical connection between either the INXS track or the Prince one and Dylan's. Musically none of them have any relationship.
And here's my edit: Mediate didn't steal from Wonderful Ass either. Seriously, it's called a coincidence. [Edited 6/25/17 15:29pm] | |
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The song was offered to Violent Femmes in 90 or 91, according to the band themselves (the offer came thru Susan R, who was recording them at Larabee at the same time P was using the studio), but there is no mention of it on Pvault. But they finally decided not to use it. A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ |
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rebelenterprise said:[quote]I love it...And "Wonderful Ass" seriously needs to be a single. That's a top 10 hit IMO... The word Ass is no longer censored on radio, so it could work. I was thinking the exact same thought as I was driving around today. And I agree... why has there been no push for airplay of the "new" songs by Warner Bros??? | |
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Yeah, I've tried to imagine that. I just can't hear it in my head. | |
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There is "Love and Sex" and "Love" and "Sex" and "Love or Money" and "Love" and "Money"! "Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!" |
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A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ |
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i wish there was a song called COFFEE and one called Starfish... "Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!" |
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The whole "I just don't deserve you...Don't ever let anybody hurt you..." Made me wanna give him a hug...Awww Prince!
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Yup! I hear it...! "See this gold chain around my waist, What R U gonna do? Yeah.." reminds me of the "What R U gonna do? You just gonna sit there and watch...?" and the shallow breathing, the "uhs" "ahs" like..."Damn P, did I...Did I just hear you...?" | |
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Sorry but there isn't one. | |
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There could be. We just haven't heard of it yet. | |
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I'm trippin that yall are creaming over We Can Fuck. Its cool, but isnt that revamped one where he has Miko play out at the end..the one where he sings like each sentence he is singing like in a sexy whisper and like he is coming to the refractory period of orgasm.
"Climb in my fur." | |
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I'm enjoying Computer Blue (“Hallway Speech” version) so much that I've barely listened to the rest. This song alone is worth the price of the release. |
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^^^^^ even with that 0.001 second dropout "Climb in my fur." | |
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I was just thinking the same thing. Amazing to have this clean version. Just stunning. |
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TheFreakerFantastic said: Definitely the main reason to get this set and probably the only disc I will be frequently listening to. All in all the effect of the songs together is very poignant and gives a good snapshot of that era. I also felt it showed a bit more of Prince's shadow side with some songs with slightly spooky undertones and effects such as Possessed and We Can Fuck, but I think there is a good mixture of his versatility here, although there are some notable omissions!
The Dance Electric
I've always found this song rather repetitive although I liked the idealism of the lyrics. However, this is not the best version, where is that amazing guitar solo at the end? It seems to drag on and seems an odd choice as opening track.
I was surprised to see this included because it was given to Andre Cymone and his version was already remastered on 'AC' back in 2011. If they were going to include songs given to other artists why didn't they also go with G-Spot or All Day, All Night which were given to Jill Jones. I especially think leaving G-spot off this set was a big miss.
That aside, it may have been included because the lyrics were poignant in light of his passing, especially about it being 'almost time to go' and 'there isn't much time'.
Love and Sex
Classic Prince, love the positive, fun energy and general wackiness of it, that's what I loved about Prince! Very happy to hear this for the first time. Interesting to hear Prince doing his Morris Day persona at the end!
Computer Blue (Hallway)
A classic version, very glad it got released finally.
Electric intercourse (Studio)
A nice surprise, particularly as no-one, even the so called harcore collectors, seemed to know it even existed! I love both this and the bootleg/live version, i see them really as different songs. But the beat, the vocals the screams are just classic Prince! Happy about this too!
Our Destiny/Roadhouse Garden
Oddly the quality of this is lower than the rest / comparable with the bootleg leaked last year so wonder if this was actually sourced from a boot rather than a master? Or perhaps it just recorded on the hoof? I actually like both songs but they probably should have been separated into separate tracks. I also love the live version of Roadhouse Garden, i almost see it as a different song but it is a touching, atmospheric song.
Possessed
Oddly, the listing stated this was the 1983 version but I believe the 1983 version is the slowed down version we all know and love. This sounds like it was done in '84 on top of the Instrumental. The way he reads out the letters is rather spooky and menacing! The jury is still out on whether this is the best one as I love the slower version with its raw passion but again I almost see it as a different song although I can see that this version does 'fit' the Purple Rain album better. Interesting to hear a previously unheard version!
Wonderful Ass
The most wonderful version of a most wonderful song. Love these kind of fun songs he did with Wendy and Lisa. Have always loved it, great to see it finally released.
Velvet Kitty Kat
Love this but it sounds like it's also been bootleg sourced due to the 'hiss' and the similarity with the quality of the version circulating last year. I do agree though that this was probably a song he just did for fun and not intended for serious release but it's good it was included to provide us with a cross section of the vault and his differing styles.
Katrina's Paper Dolls
A lovely surprise, quality is amazing, almost like you're in the room, I love his vocals and the lyrics, which also seem timely and comment on the price of fame "there's no way to tell who's real and who's not". Also, as someone pointed out here, the backing sounds the same as used in Wet Dream Cousin (albeit slowed down). Even though I believe this was intended for Vanity or Appolonia it is surprisingly deep considering the usual content of their albums and perhaps it was too candid and personal for them or for him to release in his lifetime?
We Can Fuck
I wasn't sure what to expect here but I was totally blown away. What strikes me is that the track was pretty much fully completed back then, i always assumed it was massively added to later. Love the sense of urgency of the synths, the raw sheer passion and the section from 6:15 onwards is just mindblowing! I absolutely love the talking section, the surprisingly raw passion 'fuck me again' and was amused to hear the lustful almost puppy like scream! That bell like melody at 8:24 is really special and the swooshing sound effects remind me of Moonbeam Levels. In fact the whole track has a slight '1999' era vibe to it to me. The backward masking vocal effects are spooky, it's almost as if he'd been watching Poltergeist as it sounds like the effect of disembodied voices from the dead. Impressive effect. All in all, classic Prince and this could in fact go down as one his greatest ever tracks.
Father's song
Very touching and poignant, feels like you are in the room with him. However, this does sound to me like a private demo which was later overdubbed and not a finished song, especially with the bleed of the synths. i'm not sure he would have released this in that form. But it is moving and i can see why it was included and rounds off the CD nicely.
All in all a touching disc, that gives a snapshot of the sheer vibrancy, energy and creativity of that era. in most cases, the sound quality is also impressive and makes the songs come alive and feel fresh. My only bugbear is that G-Spot, Traffic Jam and All Day, All Night weren't included and that an inferior version of The Dance Electric was! Other than that thumbs up but that said I hugely doubt Prince would have sanctioned release of these considering the content, but glad to hear more of the vault!
[Edited 6/24/17 13:38pm] I'm really psyched to have disc 2. It definitely makes the whole set worth buying just to get it. I agree with most of the review above. I was worried that this disc wouldn't be very good, and I'm glad I was wrong. It's not perfect, but it's pretty freakin awesome. "Love & honesty, peace & harmony" | |
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Amazing disc, hearing so many long-awaited tracks after 30 years is incredible. At the same time I cannot but think that this could have been really perfect, and end up amongst our favourite Prince albums of all time, had there been a couple of changes:
1) The Dance Electric (epic bootlegged version with W&L, guitar tracks etc.) 2) Love & Sex 3) Computer Blue (Hallway Speech version) 4) Electric Intercourse (Studio version) 5) G-Spot 6) Possessed 7) Wonderful Ass 8) All Day All Night 9) Katrina's Paper Dolls 10) We Can Fuck 11) Father's Song
That was really close, but still an A+ effort. |
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Excellent disc, just wish they had included the live version of "Electric Intercourse". We're here, might as well get into it. | |
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I was skeptical at first,but the second disc is excellent. Really good music from the vault. | |
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Katrina....seems like its a song inbetween 1999 and purple rain. kinda like a song that could fit on either album outtakes
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