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Reply #780 posted 08/07/17 7:45pm

206Michelle

Mumio said:



laurarichardson said:


I think that is the way Prince wanted it. I think he disbursed a lot of money when he was alive and well.



nod That would be totally in keeping with how he'd been doing it right along. I know people think that he was wrong for not making a will. I have no doubt that Prince knew exactly what he was doing and the lack of a will was intentional. I have no proof of that, but it completely fits in with what we all know about him.



This is certainly a possibility because Prince was very intentional about most everything he did. A major reason for someone to have a will would be to care for a spouse and/or children, but he had no wife and no surviving children when he died, as we all know.
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Reply #781 posted 08/08/17 4:20am

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206Michelle said:

Mumio said:



nod That would be totally in keeping with how he'd been doing it right along. I know people think that he was wrong for not making a will. I have no doubt that Prince knew exactly what he was doing and the lack of a will was intentional. I have no proof of that, but it completely fits in with what we all know about him.

This is certainly a possibility because Prince was very intentional about most everything he did. A major reason for someone to have a will would be to care for a spouse and/or children, but he had no wife and no surviving children when he died, as we all know.

Even if he had kids they can be taken care of via a trust which we the public would have no knowledge of. It would be private and off the radar. Wills are not private and wills can be contested.

[Edited 8/8/17 4:23am]

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Reply #782 posted 08/08/17 4:27am

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Looks like Breamer is being investigated.

http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/7890280/prince-administrator-pursue-claims

Prince performs at the 10th Anniversary Essence Music Festival at the Superdome on July 2, 2004 in New Orleans.

Since Prince died just over a year ago, his estate has been overseen by two different administrators. Now a judge is readying to bring in a third.

Last week, a lawyer representing the estate’s current representative, Comerica Bank & Trust, filed a letter asking the judge overseeing the case to appoint an additional “special administrator” that could “pursue claims” on behalf of the estate that Comerica can’t, due to conflicts of interest. The letter also suggested that the judge appoint an attorney to the role. While it wasn’t clear from the heavily redacted letter which claims such an administrator might pursue, several of Prince’s heirs have called in previous court filings for an investigation into the some of the deals inked on the estate’s behalf by Bremer Trust, which served as the estate’s special administrator until February.

Those deals included a $31 million agreement with Universal Music Group that had given the label the licensing rights to some of Prince’s recorded music and his “vault” of unreleased works. A judge voided that deal last month amid uncertainty surrounding whether the rights granted to UMG conflicted with rights that Warner Music Group already owned. Bremer’s court-appointed entertainment advisors, L. Londell McMillan and Charles Koppelman, earned a combined 10% commission on that deal and others they negotiated for Bremer.

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Now that the deal has been rescinded, the Prince estate can shop the rights elsewhere, but is likely to earn far less for them, raising questions among some close to the estate over whom to hold liable for the botched deal. Bremer and both advisors previously told Billboard they stand by their work, while the judge didn’t pin blame in his order to void the deal.

Comerica can’t take a position on Bremer’s liability because the court ordered it to enter into a “common interest agreement” that precludes the two from being adverse parties. That agreement “creates a unique problem” for the estate, according to a court filing by some heir lawyers earlier this year, making it unclear “who should bring any adverse claims against the special administrator,” and “there are undoubtedly potential claims that exist.”

On Monday, the judge granted a motion to allow all filings related to the "second special administrator" to be filed under seal.

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Reply #783 posted 08/08/17 4:40am

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That's good to know, that something might actually happen to Bremer over this mess.

laurarichardson said:

Looks like Breamer is being investigated.

http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/7890280/prince-administrator-pursue-claims

Prince performs at the 10th Anniversary Essence Music Festival at the Superdome on July 2, 2004 in New Orleans.

Since Prince died just over a year ago, his estate has been overseen by two different administrators. Now a judge is readying to bring in a third.

Last week, a lawyer representing the estate’s current representative, Comerica Bank & Trust, filed a letter asking the judge overseeing the case to appoint an additional “special administrator” that could “pursue claims” on behalf of the estate that Comerica can’t, due to conflicts of interest. The letter also suggested that the judge appoint an attorney to the role. While it wasn’t clear from the heavily redacted letter which claims such an administrator might pursue, several of Prince’s heirs have called in previous court filings for an investigation into the some of the deals inked on the estate’s behalf by Bremer Trust, which served as the estate’s special administrator until February.

Those deals included a $31 million agreement with Universal Music Group that had given the label the licensing rights to some of Prince’s recorded music and his “vault” of unreleased works. A judge voided that deal last month amid uncertainty surrounding whether the rights granted to UMG conflicted with rights that Warner Music Group already owned. Bremer’s court-appointed entertainment advisors, L. Londell McMillan and Charles Koppelman, earned a combined 10% commission on that deal and others they negotiated for Bremer.

ADVERTISING

Now that the deal has been rescinded, the Prince estate can shop the rights elsewhere, but is likely to earn far less for them, raising questions among some close to the estate over whom to hold liable for the botched deal. Bremer and both advisors previously told Billboard they stand by their work, while the judge didn’t pin blame in his order to void the deal.

Comerica can’t take a position on Bremer’s liability because the court ordered it to enter into a “common interest agreement” that precludes the two from being adverse parties. That agreement “creates a unique problem” for the estate, according to a court filing by some heir lawyers earlier this year, making it unclear “who should bring any adverse claims against the special administrator,” and “there are undoubtedly potential claims that exist.”

On Monday, the judge granted a motion to allow all filings related to the "second special administrator" to be filed under seal.

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Reply #784 posted 08/08/17 4:51am

1Sasha

Show business is 10% show and 90% business. For anyone coming up through the ranks, or who is there now, let this mess be a lesson to you. Get your house in order no matter what your age or how much money you have. And participate in the organization of all of this. Don't think others will take care of it for you. God, could this get any worse? Oh, probably, yes, it could.

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Reply #785 posted 08/08/17 4:53am

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laurarichardson said:

Looks like Breamer is being investigated.


Where did you see that? All I saw was the below which doesn’t sound like it’s something new.

several of Prince’s heirs have called in previous court filings for an investigation into the some of the deals inked on the estate’s behalf by Bremer Trust

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Reply #786 posted 08/08/17 5:11am

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rogifan said:

laurarichardson said:

Looks like Breamer is being investigated.

Where did you see that? All I saw was the below which doesn’t sound like it’s something new.
several of Prince’s heirs have called in previous court filings for an investigation into the some of the deals inked on the estate’s behalf by Bremer Trust

They Comerica are bringing in another SA and they would like for this person to be an attorney for an investigation into some of Breamers dealings.

Comerica cannot do the investiagation due to some conflict of interest ( this is explained in the article)

Why do you think another SA is being brought in? Do you not understand that some serious illegal things occured and that Comerica along with the family are probaly trying to see if they can get that commission money back from Londell and Kopplemen.

I am going to guess they will make a case with legal justification to ask for the commision back rather than just sue these two outright.

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Reply #787 posted 08/08/17 5:15am

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1Sasha said:

Show business is 10% show and 90% business. For anyone coming up through the ranks, or who is there now, let this mess be a lesson to you. Get your house in order no matter what your age or how much money you have. And participate in the organization of all of this. Don't think others will take care of it for you. God, could this get any worse? Oh, probably, yes, it could.

Well let's see MJ had a trust and selected two people he trusted to run it.

1) These two people have run up a hugh tax bill and sold the music catalogue off to the pay the taxes.

2) Cannot seem to unload the Neverland ranch.

3) Lost an embarrassing lawsuit to Quincy Jones

4) Had goof balls like Justine Timberlake singing on MJ songs

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MJ selected these people and things still did not go smoothly. Remember Breamer had a duty to oversee LM and Kooplemen and they failed in that duty. Also remember Breamer was Prince's wealth management and bank for over 30 years so he did trust them and they still fucked up.

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Reply #788 posted 08/08/17 5:31am

1Sasha

LR, I understand about the MJ estate. My feeling is that I look at people in that stratosphere, and there are some doing better than others. Paul McCartney has used his in-laws since 1969. The Foo Fighters use John Silva - he is the only manager Dave Grohl has ever had. There are some good ones. But the artist has to become savvy in terms of the business end of things AND has to be willing to listen to what the people around him are saying.

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Reply #789 posted 08/08/17 6:22am

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LR, I understand about the MJ estate. My feeling is that I look at people in that stratosphere, and there are some doing better than others. Paul McCartney has used his in-laws since 1969. The Foo Fighters use John Silva - he is the only manager Dave Grohl has ever had. There are some good ones. But the artist has to become savvy in terms of the business end of things AND has to be willing to listen to what the people around him are saying.

But Prince did have attorney's and he did have lucurtive contracts or contracts he was happy with at the time of his death. We are missing a lot of info about his health so we do not know if he was suffering from any other illness other than pain pill addiction to know if he should have doing end of life planning.

He may have felt he would beat whatever he was going thru because so far we know that he had been dealing with joint pain as far back as the late 90s and I bet he had been taking pain meds off and on for years probaly never thinking about addiction or what effect they might have had on his health.

He got his masters back and he sat up his LLC and he did not die with racks of debt but sometimes the best plans can go sideways.

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Reply #790 posted 08/08/17 6:25am

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Another article from Variety about possible investigation into illegal activities.

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A series of heavily redacted documents made public Monday indicate that Prince’s estate is preparing to take legal action against former special music advisors L. Londell McMillan and Charles Koppelman, a source close to the situation confirmed to Variety.

http://variety.com/2017/biz/news/princes-estate-moves-toward-legal-action-against-former-advisers-1202518714/

Prince’s Estate Moves Toward Legal Action Against Former Advisers

Prince Dead Obit
AGF S.R.L./REX/SHUTTERSTOCK
AUGUST 8, 2017 | 05:26AM PT

A series of heavily redacted documents made public Monday indicate that Prince’s estate is preparing to take legal action against former special music advisors L. Londell McMillan and Charles Koppelman, a source close to the situation confirmed to Variety.

Comerica Bank, which was named the estate’s corporate personal representative in January, has moved to appoint a special administrator to “investigate and, if warranted, pursue claims on behalf of the estate … in a situation where the Personal Representative has a conflict of interest.” This is believed to be the case between Comerica and Bremer Bank, which was the estate’s previous, temporary administrator. The documents reference a conference call held on July 28 that included representatives for the two banks, Prince’s six heirs, and McMillan and Koppelman.

RELATED

Universal’s Move to Nul...d by Judge

The pair executed several deals for the estate during their six-month stint in the role — including publishing and merchandising deals (both with Universal) and performing rights (with Global Music Rights) — but a $31 million recorded-musi... rescinded last month after it became clear that the assets in question had been misrepresented. A tribute concert held in Minneapolis in October was also beset by accusations of mismanagement.

Documents indicate that McMillan and Koppelman received a 10% commission on deals they closed for the estate, although the status of their commission on the Universal recorded-music deal remains undetermined.

Troy Carter, who replaced... Koppelman as the estate’s special music advisor in April, is not mentioned in the unredacted segments of the documents.

While there has been talk of fraud charges with regard to the rescinded Universal recorded-music deal, several informed parties tell Variety a less extreme solution to the issue is more likely. In a court document released in June, Universal wrote that McMillan said on June 22 that the Warner agreement “could have been drafted better,” and “there is no dispute that these rights are confusing.”

Reached by Variety hours after the Universal recorded-music deal was nullified, McMillan said: “Pleased this is resolved. We respect the Court’s decision. Comerica chose to rescind and I would have chosen otherwise than released Prince music with UMG or independently, as Prince did. There was no wrongdoing on our end. We stand by our work.”

Confusion over the deal, which covered much of Prince’s recorded works after the termination of his 19-year-long initial deal with Warner Bros. in 1996, began as soon as it was announced in February. The announcement said that “beginning [in 2018], UMG will obtain U.S. rights to certain renowned Prince albums released from 1979 to 1995” — the years that the artist was signed with Warner Bros. Records and released his most commercially successful recordings by far, including the “1999,” “Purple Rain,” “Parade,” “Batman,” and “Diamonds and Pearls” albums. However, Prince had cut a new deal with Warner in 2014 that sources say garnered him the rights to the majority of his work released on the label — albeit with certain key exceptions.

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Reply #791 posted 08/08/17 6:34am

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1Sasha said:

Show business is 10% show and 90% business. For anyone coming up through the ranks, or who is there now, let this mess be a lesson to you. Get your house in order no matter what your age or how much money you have. And participate in the organization of all of this. Don't think others will take care of it for you. God, could this get any worse? Oh, probably, yes, it could.

Reminded me of the recent James Brown biopic. biggrin

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Reply #792 posted 08/08/17 6:41am

Rev

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laurarichardson said:

Another article from Variety about possible investigation into illegal activities.

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A series of heavily redacted documents made public Monday indicate that Prince’s estate is preparing to take legal action against former special music advisors L. Londell McMillan and Charles Koppelman, a source close to the situation confirmed to Variety.

http://variety.com/2017/biz/news/princes-estate-moves-toward-legal-action-against-former-advisers-1202518714/

Prince’s Estate Moves Toward Legal Action Against Former Advisers

Prince Dead Obit
AGF S.R.L./REX/SHUTTERSTOCK
AUGUST 8, 2017 | 05:26AM PT

A series of heavily redacted documents made public Monday indicate that Prince’s estate is preparing to take legal action against former special music advisors L. Londell McMillan and Charles Koppelman, a source close to the situation confirmed to Variety.

Comerica Bank, which was named the estate’s corporate personal representative in January, has moved to appoint a special administrator to “investigate and, if warranted, pursue claims on behalf of the estate … in a situation where the Personal Representative has a conflict of interest.” This is believed to be the case between Comerica and Bremer Bank, which was the estate’s previous, temporary administrator. The documents reference a conference call held on July 28 that included representatives for the two banks, Prince’s six heirs, and McMillan and Koppelman.

RELATED

Universal’s Move to Nul...d by Judge

The pair executed several deals for the estate during their six-month stint in the role — including publishing and merchandising deals (both with Universal) and performing rights (with Global Music Rights) — but a $31 million recorded-musi... rescinded last month after it became clear that the assets in question had been misrepresented. A tribute concert held in Minneapolis in October was also beset by accusations of mismanagement.

Documents indicate that McMillan and Koppelman received a 10% commission on deals they closed for the estate, although the status of their commission on the Universal recorded-music deal remains undetermined.

Troy Carter, who replaced... Koppelman as the estate’s special music advisor in April, is not mentioned in the unredacted segments of the documents.

While there has been talk of fraud charges with regard to the rescinded Universal recorded-music deal, several informed parties tell Variety a less extreme solution to the issue is more likely. In a court document released in June, Universal wrote that McMillan said on June 22 that the Warner agreement “could have been drafted better,” and “there is no dispute that these rights are confusing.”

Reached by Variety hours after the Universal recorded-music deal was nullified, McMillan said: “Pleased this is resolved. We respect the Court’s decision. Comerica chose to rescind and I would have chosen otherwise than released Prince music with UMG or independently, as Prince did. There was no wrongdoing on our end. We stand by our work.”

Confusion over the deal, which covered much of Prince’s recorded works after the termination of his 19-year-long initial deal with Warner Bros. in 1996, began as soon as it was announced in February. The announcement said that “beginning [in 2018], UMG will obtain U.S. rights to certain renowned Prince albums released from 1979 to 1995” — the years that the artist was signed with Warner Bros. Records and released his most commercially successful recordings by far, including the “1999,” “Purple Rain,” “Parade,” “Batman,” and “Diamonds and Pearls” albums. However, Prince had cut a new deal with Warner in 2014 that sources say garnered him the rights to the majority of his work released on the label — albeit with certain key exceptions.

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Spotify had me listening to Jughead the other day. No a go to song for me, but then there was the Tony M rant on 'managers, lawyers...etc." It made me think of these two snakes. I hope they're made to pay back that money and embarrassed.

Not in the same level, but Van Jones is shady too. Coming around smoozing Prince up for money. Just another sucker looking for his piece of the pie. neutral

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Reply #793 posted 08/08/17 7:11am

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Rev said:

laurarichardson said:

Another article from Variety about possible investigation into illegal activities.

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A series of heavily redacted documents made public Monday indicate that Prince’s estate is preparing to take legal action against former special music advisors L. Londell McMillan and Charles Koppelman, a source close to the situation confirmed to Variety.

http://variety.com/2017/biz/news/princes-estate-moves-toward-legal-action-against-former-advisers-1202518714/

Prince’s Estate Moves Toward Legal Action Against Former Advisers

Prince Dead Obit
AGF S.R.L./REX/SHUTTERSTOCK
AUGUST 8, 2017 | 05:26AM PT

A series of heavily redacted documents made public Monday indicate that Prince’s estate is preparing to take legal action against former special music advisors L. Londell McMillan and Charles Koppelman, a source close to the situation confirmed to Variety.

Comerica Bank, which was named the estate’s corporate personal representative in January, has moved to appoint a special administrator to “investigate and, if warranted, pursue claims on behalf of the estate … in a situation where the Personal Representative has a conflict of interest.” This is believed to be the case between Comerica and Bremer Bank, which was the estate’s previous, temporary administrator. The documents reference a conference call held on July 28 that included representatives for the two banks, Prince’s six heirs, and McMillan and Koppelman.

RELATED

Universal’s Move to Nul...d by Judge

The pair executed several deals for the estate during their six-month stint in the role — including publishing and merchandising deals (both with Universal) and performing rights (with Global Music Rights) — but a $31 million recorded-musi... rescinded last month after it became clear that the assets in question had been misrepresented. A tribute concert held in Minneapolis in October was also beset by accusations of mismanagement.

Documents indicate that McMillan and Koppelman received a 10% commission on deals they closed for the estate, although the status of their commission on the Universal recorded-music deal remains undetermined.

Troy Carter, who replaced... Koppelman as the estate’s special music advisor in April, is not mentioned in the unredacted segments of the documents.

While there has been talk of fraud charges with regard to the rescinded Universal recorded-music deal, several informed parties tell Variety a less extreme solution to the issue is more likely. In a court document released in June, Universal wrote that McMillan said on June 22 that the Warner agreement “could have been drafted better,” and “there is no dispute that these rights are confusing.”

Reached by Variety hours after the Universal recorded-music deal was nullified, McMillan said: “Pleased this is resolved. We respect the Court’s decision. Comerica chose to rescind and I would have chosen otherwise than released Prince music with UMG or independently, as Prince did. There was no wrongdoing on our end. We stand by our work.”

Confusion over the deal, which covered much of Prince’s recorded works after the termination of his 19-year-long initial deal with Warner Bros. in 1996, began as soon as it was announced in February. The announcement said that “beginning [in 2018], UMG will obtain U.S. rights to certain renowned Prince albums released from 1979 to 1995” — the years that the artist was signed with Warner Bros. Records and released his most commercially successful recordings by far, including the “1999,” “Purple Rain,” “Parade,” “Batman,” and “Diamonds and Pearls” albums. However, Prince had cut a new deal with Warner in 2014 that sources say garnered him the rights to the majority of his work released on the label — albeit with certain key exceptions.

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Spotify had me listening to Jughead the other day. No a go to song for me, but then there was the Tony M rant on 'managers, lawyers...etc." It made me think of these two snakes. I hope they're made to pay back that money and embarrassed.

Not in the same level, but Van Jones is shady too. Coming around smoozing Prince up for money. Just another sucker looking for his piece of the pie. neutral

Prince approached Van so I do not think smoozing was what went on between the two of them.

I hope the two snakes give back the commision and good quietly into the night.

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Reply #794 posted 08/08/17 7:12am

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laurarichardson said:

A series of heavily redacted documents made public Monday indicate that Prince’s estate is preparing to take legal action against former special music advisors L. Londell McMillan and Charles Koppelman, a source close to the situation confirmed to Variety.

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It's about time...! lol biggrin

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #795 posted 08/08/17 7:37am

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laurarichardson said:

Rev said:

Spotify had me listening to Jughead the other day. No a go to song for me, but then there was the Tony M rant on 'managers, lawyers...etc." It made me think of these two snakes. I hope they're made to pay back that money and embarrassed.

Not in the same level, but Van Jones is shady too. Coming around smoozing Prince up for money. Just another sucker looking for his piece of the pie. neutral

Prince approached Van so I do not think smoozing was what went on between the two of them.

I hope the two snakes give back the commision and good quietly into the night.

OK, but I still don't like him. He smiles too much biggrin

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Reply #796 posted 08/08/17 9:00am

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Is Van home in the Twin Cities?

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Reply #797 posted 08/08/17 9:02am

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Rev said:

laurarichardson said:

Prince approached Van so I do not think smoozing was what went on between the two of them.

I hope the two snakes give back the commision and good quietly into the night.

OK, but I still don't like him. He smiles too much biggrin

biggrin biggrin ... Laura, How u know P approached Van and not the other way around?

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Reply #798 posted 08/08/17 9:30am

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Astasheiks said:

Rev said:

OK, but I still don't like him. He smiles too much biggrin

biggrin biggrin ... Laura, How u know P approached Van and not the other way around?

Because Van explained how he received a large check for his charity from Prince. That is how they met so Prince approched him not the other way around. Prince then offered him a job after Van got fired from the White House.

We now know Prince hooked a lot of people up with jobs.

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Reply #799 posted 08/08/17 9:40am

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Astasheiks said:

Is Van home in the Twin Cities?

Van is out in L.A.

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Reply #800 posted 08/08/17 10:32am

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udo said:



laurarichardson said:






A series of heavily redacted documents made public Monday indicate that Prince’s estate is preparing to take legal action against former special music advisors L. Londell McMillan and Charles Koppelman, a source close to the situation confirmed to Variety.







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It's about time...! lol biggrin


So they’re going after McMillan and Koppelman. It’s possible Bremer was in over its head ut I’m thinking they were as much a victim as the estate was. And I still don’t get how UMG gets off...they certainly didn’t do the proper due diligence.
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Reply #801 posted 08/08/17 10:54am

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rogifan said:

udo said:

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It's about time...! lol biggrin

So they’re going after McMillan and Koppelman. It’s possible Bremer was in over its head ut I’m thinking they were as much a victim as the estate was. And I still don’t get how UMG gets off...they certainly didn’t do the proper due diligence.

UMG was the victim of a bad deal and I do not see what they would be sued for. If the estate sued them they would just say that the estate committed fraud against them and counter-sue.

Bremer should have been overseeing L&K and they should have also realized that just giving Lonnie the job because he knew one of the attorney's with Breamer firm without even looking at other attorney's for the job was going to make them look compliant with his behavior.

If Breamer was a victim then they can sue L&K.

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Reply #802 posted 08/08/17 11:34am

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I wonder if there is any defense along the lines of "we told Ms. Nelson we did not have any experience in this regard, but because there was a looming tax bill and other issues, we hired people Mr. Nelson had dealt with and/or who had experience in the field. We didn't know they were scamming the estate." Bremer is on the hook, but it will be interesting to see for how much.

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Reply #803 posted 08/08/17 11:38am

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1Sasha said:

I wonder if there is any defense along the lines of "we told Ms. Nelson we did not have any experience in this regard, but because there was a looming tax bill and other issues, we hired people Mr. Nelson had dealt with and/or who had experience in the field. We didn't know they were scamming the estate." Bremer is on the hook, but it will be interesting to see for how much.

They could have turned the family down but once they took on the role they had a duty to oversee whom every they hired to do the job.

There must be thousands of entertainment lawyers across this country as well as lawyers that handle estates. Breamer did not look at any proposals from any other attorney.

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Reply #804 posted 08/08/17 11:57am

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laurarichardson said:

Astasheiks said:

Is Van home in the Twin Cities?

Van is out in L.A.

Van also did the "Reelz" Prince hour long scandal piece. Horrible

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Reply #805 posted 08/08/17 12:13pm

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Astasheiks said:

Rev said:

OK, but I still don't like him. He smiles too much biggrin

biggrin biggrin ... Laura, How u know P approached Van and not the other way around?

Yes, I agree Van Jones is Shady too. Wasn’t VJ part of P's victory to get his masters back?

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As for charities: He says P approached him… the whole anonymous check story sounds like BS.
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As almost everyone here says…. P is not here to verify the information so why should we believe him/her? Why do people take VJ's word at face value when he’s been disgraced in the public eye, but we scoff at P’s ex’s - wives and girlfriends? We have VJ’s word only…. and he’s looking to further his own agenda.
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VJ is looking to play on the public love for P to lure you into donating to his, VJ's causes/charities. Can anyone find tax returns for these charities? I can’t. If you can find them, please send them to me.
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Not that new charities can’t be started but be cautious. Donate with your head as well as your heart.
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This guy is using P’s name from day 1 to further his own agenda. He’s as bad as LLM IMHO. Sorry for the rant.
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~DD55

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Reply #806 posted 08/08/17 12:30pm

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DD55 said:

Astasheiks said:

biggrin biggrin ... Laura, How u know P approached Van and not the other way around?

Yes, I agree Van Jones is Shady too. Wasn’t VJ part of P's victory to get his masters back?

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As for charities: He says P approached him… the whole anonymous check story sounds like BS.
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As almost everyone here says…. P is not here to verify the information so why should we believe him/her? Why do people take VJ's word at face value when he’s been disgraced in the public eye, but we scoff at P’s ex’s - wives and girlfriends? We have VJ’s word only…. and he’s looking to further his own agenda.
.
VJ is looking to play on the public love for P to lure you into donating to his, VJ's causes/charities. Can anyone find tax returns for these charities? I can’t. If you can find them, please send them to me.
.
Not that new charities can’t be started but be cautious. Donate with your head as well as your heart.
.
This guy is using P’s name from day 1 to further his own agenda. He’s as bad as LLM IMHO. Sorry for the rant.
.
~DD55

I agree, DD55, it's almost like he thinks that BC he wears a purple tie every day like a uniform he deserves special treatment/consideration re the estste. Like Eric thinks he deserves music industry props 'cause he bagged Prince's ex-wife.

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Reply #807 posted 08/08/17 12:35pm

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DD55 said:

Astasheiks said:

biggrin biggrin ... Laura, How u know P approached Van and not the other way around?

Yes, I agree Van Jones is Shady too. Wasn’t VJ part of P's victory to get his masters back?

.
As for charities: He says P approached him… the whole anonymous check story sounds like BS.
.
As almost everyone here says…. P is not here to verify the information so why should we believe him/her? Why do people take VJ's word at face value when he’s been disgraced in the public eye, but we scoff at P’s ex’s - wives and girlfriends? We have VJ’s word only…. and he’s looking to further his own agenda.
.
VJ is looking to play on the public love for P to lure you into donating to his, VJ's causes/charities. Can anyone find tax returns for these charities? I can’t. If you can find them, please send them to me.
.
Not that new charities can’t be started but be cautious. Donate with your head as well as your heart.
.
This guy is using P’s name from day 1 to further his own agenda. He’s as bad as LLM IMHO. Sorry for the rant.
.
~DD55

1) He was on the View with Prince a few years ago discussing their charity work. Why would Prince go on T.V to discuss a charity that does not exsist? Prince gave him the seed money to start it and was alive and well to promote "Yes We Can Code"

2) He was at the Essence festival were teens were invited to join the "Yes We Code" non-profit to learn coding. https://www.yeswecode.org/prince

3) See IRS info. This is a real charity. https://apps.irs.gov/app/...rchChariti

es&submitName=Search

4) Prince gave money anonymously all the time and Van is not the only person to say so.

5) You may not like Van's polictics but Please explain what is wrong with non-profits that provide job training?

4) You may not like Van's politics but please explain to me what is wrong with Charities that help young people get job?


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Reply #808 posted 08/08/17 12:36pm

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Bodhitheblackdog said:

DD55 said:

Yes, I agree Van Jones is Shady too. Wasn’t VJ part of P's victory to get his masters back?

.
As for charities: He says P approached him… the whole anonymous check story sounds like BS.
.
As almost everyone here says…. P is not here to verify the information so why should we believe him/her? Why do people take VJ's word at face value when he’s been disgraced in the public eye, but we scoff at P’s ex’s - wives and girlfriends? We have VJ’s word only…. and he’s looking to further his own agenda.
.
VJ is looking to play on the public love for P to lure you into donating to his, VJ's causes/charities. Can anyone find tax returns for these charities? I can’t. If you can find them, please send them to me.
.
Not that new charities can’t be started but be cautious. Donate with your head as well as your heart.
.
This guy is using P’s name from day 1 to further his own agenda. He’s as bad as LLM IMHO. Sorry for the rant.
.
~DD55

I agree, DD55, it's almost like he thinks that BC he wears a purple tie every day like a uniform he deserves special treatment/consideration re the estste. Like Eric thinks he deserves music industry props 'cause he bagged Prince's ex-wife.

Van is not getting any special consideration from the estate so what are you talking about?

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Reply #809 posted 08/08/17 12:38pm

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Rev said:

laurarichardson said:

Van is out in L.A.

Van also did the "Reelz" Prince hour long scandal piece. Horrible

Andre and Owen were on that show and claimed they were lied to about the direction of the program.

You do not think that Van might have been misled as well. You fishing for something that is not there.

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