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Reply #180 posted 06/21/17 7:20am

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KlyphIsBackAgain said:

BoraBora said:



Very well, thanks.

So this is only on the file I have and not on the CD itself.

Will replace the file ripping directly my CD when it will arrive.


Just to make sure I'm listening in the right place. Before the drum machines kick in, or before the drums come in after the "huh huh" in the intro?



Difficult to say, I have not the file here in this moment.

Listened to it twice hours ago, if my memory serves well there is the "suspended" intro and the dropouts (minimal, with headphones on) came right before the last P scream and the start of the drum pattern.

Hope this make sense, tonight I will check it again.


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Reply #181 posted 06/21/17 7:22am

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“We Can Fuck” is every bit as good as I’d hoped. The way that he builds and sustains the drama during the middle section is masterful. “Love and Sex” is great, “Possessed” is interesting. I actually became quite choked – I miss the little genius more than ever listening to this stuff. x

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Reply #182 posted 06/21/17 7:23am

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BoraBora said:



KlyphIsBackAgain said:


BoraBora said:




Very well, thanks.

So this is only on the file I have and not on the CD itself.

Will replace the file ripping directly my CD when it will arrive.




Just to make sure I'm listening in the right place. Before the drum machines kick in, or before the drums come in after the "huh huh" in the intro?



Difficult to say, I have not the file here in this moment.



Listened to it twice hours ago, if my memory serves well there is the "suspended" intro and the dropouts (minimal, with headphones on) came right before the last P scream and the start of the drum pattern.

Hope this make sense, tonight I will check it again.




Ok. I'm not listening with headphones right now so I'll check it out.
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Reply #183 posted 06/21/17 7:23am

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fen said:

“We Can Fuck” is every bit as good as I’d hoped. The way that he builds and sustains the drama during the middle section is masterful. “Love and Sex” is great, “Possessed” is interesting. I actually became quite choked – I miss the little genius more than ever listening to this stuff. x



I especially like the ending of Possessed.
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Reply #184 posted 06/21/17 7:26am

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KlyphIsBackAgain said:

fen said:

“We Can Fuck” is every bit as good as I’d hoped. The way that he builds and sustains the drama during the middle section is masterful. “Love and Sex” is great, “Possessed” is interesting. I actually became quite choked – I miss the little genius more than ever listening to this stuff. x

I especially like the ending of Possessed.



I still have to listen to the ending.

From the "here and there" portions I listened to, it is a solid version missing a great bass (a.l.a. Cloreen, to say one).


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Reply #185 posted 06/21/17 7:27am

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I'm disappointed with We Can Fuck, not the version as much as the sound quality. Add this one to the "not from master" list. No?

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Reply #186 posted 06/21/17 7:29am

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[Edited 6/21/17 7:31am]

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Reply #187 posted 06/21/17 7:29am

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I'm disappointed with We Can Fuck, not the version as much as the sound quality. Add this one to the "not from master" list. No?



Again, listened only to some portions but for me the sound quality of WCF was OK.

Maybe not clear like EI, but still better than OD/RG.



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Reply #188 posted 06/21/17 7:30am

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Is "Wonderful Ass" the same as this version? https://www.youtube.com/w...3-JLuHYBjw

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Reply #189 posted 06/21/17 7:31am

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djThunderfunk said:

I'm disappointed with We Can Fuck, not the version as much as the sound quality. Add this one to the "not from master" list. No?



Well, I don't agree with the whole "not from the master" theory. I do agree the sound quality is lacking on it, for whatever reason.
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Reply #190 posted 06/21/17 7:34am

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mbdtyler said:

Is "Wonderful Ass" the same as this version? https://www.youtube.com/w...3-JLuHYBjw

yes but quality x100

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Reply #191 posted 06/21/17 7:36am

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KlyphIsBackAgain said:

fen said:

“We Can Fuck” is every bit as good as I’d hoped. The way that he builds and sustains the drama during the middle section is masterful. “Love and Sex” is great, “Possessed” is interesting. I actually became quite choked – I miss the little genius more than ever listening to this stuff. x

I especially like the ending of Possessed.

Yes, the brief chant of “Someone’s in my body” caught me off guard for some reason – Prince at his strange, surreal, libidinous best.

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Reply #192 posted 06/21/17 7:36am

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OD / RG seems to be only track that "sounds" like it's a boot to me, everything else is steller for the most part - especially the Hallway Speech which on headphones is definitely thrilling.

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Reply #193 posted 06/21/17 7:43am

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Just as I unfortunately predicted, the Paisley Park Remaster sounds HORRIBLE. Very compressed and horribly brickwalled to the point that you can hear the audio clip in some parts (ending of Let's Go Crazy for example). Here's a sample of the waveform of LGC. Top is the 2015 Remaster, bottom is the from the 2011 Reissue mastered by Kevin Gray (ripped from my personal vinyl copy).


As you can see, there's a night and day difference. Then again, i'm not surprised considering how compressed and brickwalled Prince's music has been since the mid 90's that the remaster he supervised would sound this bad. But I hoped it wouldn't. Oh well.

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Reply #194 posted 06/21/17 7:49am

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Genesia said:

I thought I was doing the right thing by ordering from the official site. I'll probably get mine last. rolleyes

In the Spanish forum I read they were saying that Amazon Spain is going to deliver it on the 29th...

Me too Genesia. I am hoping to at least have it by Tuesday...not sure how long it will take if they ship them all out on Friday.

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Reply #195 posted 06/21/17 7:50am

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PurpleMedley122 said:

Just as I unfortunately predicted, the Paisley Park Remaster sounds HORRIBLE. Very compressed and horribly brickwalled to the point that you can hear the audio clip in some parts (ending of Let's Go Crazy for example). Here's a sample of the waveform of LGC. Top is the 2015 Remaster, bottom is the from the 2011 Reissue mastered by Kevin Gray (ripped from my personal vinyl copy).





As you can see, there's a night and day difference. Then again, i'm not surprised considering how compressed and brickwalled Prince's music has been since the mid 90's that the remaster he supervised would sound this bad. But I hoped it wouldn't. Oh well.



When I saw "overseen by Prince" I expected it too. But, to play devil's advocate Prince definitely wasn't the only offender in the category and still isn't.
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Reply #196 posted 06/21/17 7:51am

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Overall, I'm pleased with the vault disc. Most sounds better than I expected, only a handful sound like they're from "inferior" sources. Sure, it's all too "hot" but this I did expect. It's why I'm not excited about the album remaster.

I'll be happy to drop my $ on this Friday and look forward to future vault releases.

That said, I'm already late for an appointment. I don't expect that "sorry sir, I had to listen to the new Prince CD on my good speakers" will go over so I have to motivate. Thanks to those that shared the leak, I'm sure I'll be spinning these tracks on repeat awhile. Now when I get home Friday I can focus on the DVD!! wink

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Reply #197 posted 06/21/17 7:51am

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I'm hoping the vinyl will be less offensive, as in the case with the recent Sgt. Peppers remaster.
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Reply #198 posted 06/21/17 7:54am

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OK. As I wrote on the other thread, the inclusion of this version of "Wonderful Ass" confused me so I checked a thing.

I got somewhere a CD bootleg titled "Princesex" that contains a longer version of WA (lenght 9:50, as confirmed on Discogs), and to my knowledge that was indicated as the original 1983 version.

I don't listen to it from a lot and I can't remember well, but from what I remember it was more stripped.

Now here we have what we indicated for all this time as the 1986 version included on a 1983/1984 tracks selection.

So we can assume that the so called "1986 version" is simply an 1983/1984 version revamped as it was in 1986 for inclusion in some project (like JIR from 1986 included without variations on GB in 1990, for example). Am I wrong?!?!?

On a side note, someone here remember or have access to the "Princesex" 9:50 version I'm talkin' about to confirm is different?!?!?

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Reply #199 posted 06/21/17 7:55am

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When will some of you figure out the masses could less about the sound quality. eek

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Reply #200 posted 06/21/17 7:57am

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BoraBora said:


OK. As I wrote on the other thread, the inclusion of this version of "Wonderful Ass" confused me so I checked a thing.

I got somewhere a CD bootleg titled "Princesex" that contains a longer version of WA (lenght 9:50, as confirmed on Discogs), and to my knowledge that was indicated as the original 1983 version.

I don't listen to it from a lot and I can't remember well, but from what I remember it was more stripped.

Now here we have what we indicated for all this time as the 1986 version included on a 1983/1984 tracks selection.

So we can assume that the so called "1986 version" is simply an 1983/1984 version revamped as it was in 1986 for inclusion in some project (like JIR from 1986 included without variations on GB in 1990, for example). Am I wrong?!?!?

On a side note, someone here remember or have access to the "Princesex" 9:50 version I'm talkin' about to confirm is different?!?!?


I do, but as I said, have to go. If nobody beats me to it, I'll check it later today for you.

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Reply #201 posted 06/21/17 7:58am

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laurarichardson said:

When will some of you figure out the masses could less about the sound quality. eek


Five minutes after you figure out that WE do! wink

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Reply #202 posted 06/21/17 7:59am

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djThunderfunk said:

BoraBora said:


OK. As I wrote on the other thread, the inclusion of this version of "Wonderful Ass" confused me so I checked a thing.

I got somewhere a CD bootleg titled "Princesex" that contains a longer version of WA (lenght 9:50, as confirmed on Discogs), and to my knowledge that was indicated as the original 1983 version.

I don't listen to it from a lot and I can't remember well, but from what I remember it was more stripped.

Now here we have what we indicated for all this time as the 1986 version included on a 1983/1984 tracks selection.

So we can assume that the so called "1986 version" is simply an 1983/1984 version revamped as it was in 1986 for inclusion in some project (like JIR from 1986 included without variations on GB in 1990, for example). Am I wrong?!?!?

On a side note, someone here remember or have access to the "Princesex" 9:50 version I'm talkin' about to confirm is different?!?!?


I do, but as I said, have to go. If nobody beats me to it, I'll check it later today for you.



Thank you very much.

I have the CD lost in some store boxes.


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Reply #203 posted 06/21/17 8:05am

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BoraBora said:



djThunderfunk said:




BoraBora said:



OK. As I wrote on the other thread, the inclusion of this version of "Wonderful Ass" confused me so I checked a thing.

I got somewhere a CD bootleg titled "Princesex" that contains a longer version of WA (lenght 9:50, as confirmed on Discogs), and to my knowledge that was indicated as the original 1983 version.


I don't listen to it from a lot and I can't remember well, but from what I remember it was more stripped.

Now here we have what we indicated for all this time as the 1986 version included on a 1983/1984 tracks selection.

So we can assume that the so called "1986 version" is simply an 1983/1984 version revamped as it was in 1986 for inclusion in some project (like JIR from 1986 included without variations on GB in 1990, for example). Am I wrong?!?!?

On a side note, someone here remember or have access to the "Princesex" 9:50 version I'm talkin' about to confirm is different?!?!?





I do, but as I said, have to go. If nobody beats me to it, I'll check it later today for you.





Thank you very much.

I have the CD lost in some store boxes.




I remember the version you're talking about but I don't have it anymore. I think the version on PRDeluxe is the 86 version, plain and simple. It shouldn't be included on this project (although I'm glad it is). In 83 I don't think W & L would be screaming "The Revolution will be heard!"
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Reply #204 posted 06/21/17 8:06am

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Adorecream said:

I think we have already heard "We can Fuck". On the Work/Testament series is a song in the 1983 called "Moral majority" which sounds like the 2nd half of We can funk/We can fuck. There is female backing vocals and Pirnce and a Linn beat and it starts with the "You pour the water on me baby" and you can hear the line "We can fuck one another". It is very muddy though and only a part song, but suspect it is we can fuck.

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Wow, great call! You were dead on (it). smile

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Reply #205 posted 06/21/17 8:08am

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KlyphIsBackAgain said:

PurpleMedley122 said:

Just as I unfortunately predicted, the Paisley Park Remaster sounds HORRIBLE. Very compressed and horribly brickwalled to the point that you can hear the audio clip in some parts (ending of Let's Go Crazy for example). Here's a sample of the waveform of LGC. Top is the 2015 Remaster, bottom is the from the 2011 Reissue mastered by Kevin Gray (ripped from my personal vinyl copy).


As you can see, there's a night and day difference. Then again, i'm not surprised considering how compressed and brickwalled Prince's music has been since the mid 90's that the remaster he supervised would sound this bad. But I hoped it wouldn't. Oh well.

When I saw "overseen by Prince" I expected it too. But, to play devil's advocate Prince definitely wasn't the only offender in the category and still isn't.

Strangely, the compression and brickwalling isn't as much of a problem on the vault tracks, which sound better.

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Reply #206 posted 06/21/17 8:09am

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When will some of you figure out the masses could less about the sound quality. eek

R U serious? U cannot B serious...

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Reply #207 posted 06/21/17 8:10am

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PurpleMedley122 said:



KlyphIsBackAgain said:


PurpleMedley122 said:

Just as I unfortunately predicted, the Paisley Park Remaster sounds HORRIBLE. Very compressed and horribly brickwalled to the point that you can hear the audio clip in some parts (ending of Let's Go Crazy for example). Here's a sample of the waveform of LGC. Top is the 2015 Remaster, bottom is the from the 2011 Reissue mastered by Kevin Gray (ripped from my personal vinyl copy).





As you can see, there's a night and day difference. Then again, i'm not surprised considering how compressed and brickwalled Prince's music has been since the mid 90's that the remaster he supervised would sound this bad. But I hoped it wouldn't. Oh well.



When I saw "overseen by Prince" I expected it too. But, to play devil's advocate Prince definitely wasn't the only offender in the category and still isn't.

Strangely, the compression and brickwalling isn't as much of a problem on the vault tracks, which sound better.



Not that strange really. I don't believe P had anything to do with their mastering. I think I read B. Grundman was mastering the unreleased songs.
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Reply #208 posted 06/21/17 8:13am

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PurpleMedley122 said:

Just as I unfortunately predicted, the Paisley Park Remaster sounds HORRIBLE. Very compressed and horribly brickwalled to the point that you can hear the audio clip in some parts (ending of Let's Go Crazy for example). Here's a sample of the waveform of LGC. Top is the 2015 Remaster, bottom is the from the 2011 Reissue mastered by Kevin Gray (ripped from my personal vinyl copy).

VI56lsz.jpg


As you can see, there's a night and day difference. Then again, i'm not surprised considering how compressed and brickwalled Prince's music has been since the mid 90's that the remaster he supervised would sound this bad. But I hoped it wouldn't. Oh well.


What a shame, the waveforms say it all, if Prince "oversaw" this, he certaintly did not oversee the remastering. Pick any random person off the street and they could have done a better job.


Apparantly louder = remastered these days.







[Edited 6/21/17 8:17am]

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Reply #209 posted 06/21/17 8:16am

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leadline said:



PurpleMedley122 said:


Just as I unfortunately predicted, the Paisley Park Remaster sounds HORRIBLE. Very compressed and horribly brickwalled to the point that you can hear the audio clip in some parts (ending of Let's Go Crazy for example). Here's a sample of the waveform of LGC. Top is the 2015 Remaster, bottom is the from the 2011 Reissue mastered by Kevin Gray (ripped from my personal vinyl copy).



VI56lsz.jpg



As you can see, there's a night and day difference. Then again, i'm not surprised considering how compressed and brickwalled Prince's music has been since the mid 90's that the remaster he supervised would sound this bad. But I hoped it wouldn't. Oh well.




What a shame, the waveforms say it all, if Prince "oversaw" this, he certaintly did not oversee the remastering. Pick any random person off the street and they could have done a better job.


Apparantely louder = remastered these days.



[Edited 6/21/17 8:13am]



Wasn't Josh around during this time? Lol
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