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BartVanHemelen

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"Supreme Court turns down EFF’s “Dancing Baby” fair use case"

https://arstechnica.com/t...ight-case/

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The Supreme Court has decided not to take up the case of Lenz v. Universal, a ten-year-old copyright lawsuit initiated by the Electronic Frontier Foundation that helped determine the boundaries of "fair use."

Today's order leaves standing an earlier ruling by the US Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit. EFF called that ruling a "strong precedent," while at the same time acknowledging it did not go far enough.

The lawsuit originated as an attempt by EFF to hold a copyright owner accountable for what the organization viewed as a wanton disregard for user "fair use" rights. The copyright owner in question is Universal Music Group, which issued a copyright takedown notice to Stephanie Lenz after she posted a video of her then three-year-old son, Holden, dancing to the Prince song "Let's Go Crazy." Universal is the copyright owner of "Let's Go Crazy."

Lenz contested the video's removal, and it was eventually restored. But EFF sued Universal Music Group and said that Universal should be made to pay damages under a section of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act that bars false or misleading DMCA takedown notices.

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Reply #1 posted 06/20/17 5:42am

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Shit, they never go far enough when it comes to their overloards. disbelief

I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart.
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Reply #2 posted 06/20/17 8:57am

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The two biggest blunders that Prince and Metallica ever had in their careers was suing their fans. I despised Prince's moves with stuff like the Lenz case. Either he was just being a prick, or he didn't understand that Lenz was making $0 on her video and that having a snip of "Let's Go Crazy" in it wasn't taking money out of his pocket.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #3 posted 06/20/17 10:43am

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TrivialPursuit said:

The two biggest blunders that Prince and Metallica ever had in their careers was suing their fans. I despised Prince's moves with stuff like the Lenz case. Either he was just being a prick, or he didn't understand that Lenz was making $0 on her video and that having a snip of "Let's Go Crazy" in it wasn't taking money out of his pocket.

In this case, if I understand it well, it was the other way around: a fan or someone representing her suing a record label for being told to remove a video, and trying to make money out of this for 'damages' ... ... ...

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Reply #4 posted 06/20/17 11:59am

BartVanHemelen

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Ymaginatif said:

TrivialPursuit said:

The two biggest blunders that Prince and Metallica ever had in their careers was suing their fans. I despised Prince's moves with stuff like the Lenz case. Either he was just being a prick, or he didn't understand that Lenz was making $0 on her video and that having a snip of "Let's Go Crazy" in it wasn't taking money out of his pocket.

In this case, if I understand it well, it was the other way around: a fan or someone representing her suing a record label for being told to remove a video, and trying to make money out of this for 'damages' ... ... ...

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Seriously? You think that GETTING SUED isn't traumatic?

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Also, the EFF is trying to teach these companies a lesson: that they can't simply abuse this system. And companies simply don't learn unless there's serious coin involved.

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Gotta love that your sympathies lie with the rich pop star and the multinational company, and not with the housewife whose innocent video got taken down.

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Reply #5 posted 06/20/17 5:12pm

Purplestar88

BartVanHemelen said:

Ymaginatif said:

In this case, if I understand it well, it was the other way around: a fan or someone representing her suing a record label for being told to remove a video, and trying to make money out of this for 'damages' ... ... ...

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Seriously? You think that GETTING SUED isn't traumatic?

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Also, the EFF is trying to teach these companies a lesson: that they can't simply abuse this system. And companies simply don't learn unless there's serious coin involved.

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Gotta love that your sympathies lie with the rich pop star and the multinational company, and not with the housewife whose innocent video got taken down.

What kind of damages did she get? Both sides don't need sympathies. neutral

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