LBrent said:

Just because someone is paranoid doesn't necessarily mean no one is out to get them.

Just because someone is mentally unstable doesn't mean they're necessarily wrong.

Just because someone is mentally stable doesn't mean they're necessarily right.

Just a thought...

somtimes a cigar is just a cigar

connorhawke said:

LBrent said:

Just because someone is paranoid doesn't necessarily mean no one is out to get them.

Just because someone is mentally unstable doesn't mean they're necessarily wrong.

Just because someone is mentally stable doesn't mean they're necessarily right.

Just a thought...

A circular argument isn't a legitimate argument though.

rdhull said:

LBrent said:

Just because someone is paranoid doesn't necessarily mean no one is out to get them.

Just because someone is mentally unstable doesn't mean they're necessarily wrong.

Just because someone is mentally stable doesn't mean they're necessarily right.

Just a thought...

somtimes a cigar is just a cigar

Oh, don't misunderstand...I'm not out to convince y'all...Y'all'll believe whatever y'all believe...I'm simply pointing out that believing something is fact isn't the same as something actually being factual.

But again...y'all'll believe whatever y'all believe...I can live with that...regardless of whomever being right or wrong...

Carry on...

cloveringold85 said:

rogifan said:

As crazy as she is , I wonder why she has so many followers. I mean those are grown folks, not naive little kids.

And why is she so obsessed with Prince?

Didn´t know she was a fan.

LBrent said:

connorhawke said:

somtimes a cigar is just a cigar

Oh, don't misunderstand...I'm not out to convince y'all...Y'all'll believe whatever y'all believe...I'm simply pointing out that believing something is fact isn't the same as something actually being factual.

But again...y'all'll believe whatever y'all believe...I can live with that...regardless of whomever being right or wrong...

Carry on...

If someone had told the public that J. Edgar Hoover was doing the things he was doing without the Cointel papers know one would have belived it.

If someone had told the public about the "Tussgehee experiment" no one would have believed it.

Pleny of things have happend that seemed unbelivable that turned out to be true. Now I think this women is off her wheel with the screaming and cussing but she did know somethings about his death prior to the autophy being compeled. These could have been lucky guesses or maybe she is on to something and that is the main reason she has followers. I do not approve of what they are doing at all and I am sure the police have investigated all of the staff that worked for Prince. We already know that they know some staff members have lied and are questionable.

[Edited 6/12/17 5:03am]

sonshine said:

She's an awful publicity seeking witch. If she cared anything about Prince she would know that she is using his place/home/temple for her own gratification and notoriety. Feckin Nut.

KoolEaze said:

As crazy as she is , I wonder why she has so many followers. I mean those are grown folks, not naive little kids.

And why is she so obsessed with Prince?

Didn´t know she was a fan.

She's said she wasn't a fan before Prince passed. She said he started 'speaking to her' from the afterworld (just like a whole slew of other celebs she claims talk to her, like Robin Williams, Chris Cornell, and I don't remember who else but she seems to be very popular with departed celebrities who want her to speak for them or advocate for them) and THAT'S when she became such a rabid fan. So, she's attracted a lot of Prince fans who are desperate for some kind of connection to him or who think they're going to find answers thru her, and I've noticed also that a lot of her followers also claim to be slightly to very psychic themselves and Prince speaks to them, now, too (he's busy!!) and I think they all wind each other up like a mob mentality thing.

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As for why she's so obsessed and fixated on Prince, . She probably discovered how great his music is, and did become a real fan that way, but I think she's enjoying all the attention from Prince fans atm and using the mystery surrounding his death circumstances and the drama surrounding his family members and the estate to continue using the entire sad situation for her own purposes. Jmo

KoolEaze said:

As crazy as she is , I wonder why she has so many followers. I mean those are grown folks, not naive little kids.

And why is she so obsessed with Prince?

Didn´t know she was a fan.

She can't be much of a fan because, in her video, when she would tell things about Prince she would say, "I don't anything about him, this is something I haven't heard before," so... ? What the hell? Why is she so up in arms?

laurarichardson said:

LBrent said:

Oh, don't misunderstand...I'm not out to convince y'all...Y'all'll believe whatever y'all believe...I'm simply pointing out that believing something is fact isn't the same as something actually being factual.

But again...y'all'll believe whatever y'all believe...I can live with that...regardless of whomever being right or wrong...

Carry on...

If someone had told the public that J. Edgar Hoover was doing the things he was doing without the Cointel papers know one would have belived it.

If someone had told the public about the "Tussgehee experiment" no one would have believed it.

Pleny of things have happend that seemed unbelivable that turned out to be true. Now I think this women is off her wheel with the screaming and cussing but she did know somethings about his death prior to the autophy being compeled. These could have been lucky guesses or maybe she is on to something and that is the main reason she has followers. I do not approve of what they are doing at all and I am sure the police have investigated all of the staff that worked for Prince. We already know that they know some staff members have lied and are questionable.

[Edited 6/12/17 5:03am]

I haven't followed this very closely. but I saw in her video, from right after he passed, that she said something about his Lemonade being laced and that the Lemonade was made was Pineapple juice. Do you know if this was in fact, something the chefs made for him?

LBrent said:

connorhawke said:

somtimes a cigar is just a cigar

Oh, don't misunderstand...I'm not out to convince y'all...Y'all'll believe whatever y'all believe...I'm simply pointing out that believing something is fact isn't the same as something actually being factual.

But again...y'all'll believe whatever y'all believe...I can live with that...regardless of whomever being right or wrong...

Carry on...

wtf? all I said was 'sometimes a cigar is just a cigar'

Superfan1984 said:

KoolEaze said:

As crazy as she is , I wonder why she has so many followers. I mean those are grown folks, not naive little kids.

And why is she so obsessed with Prince?

Didn´t know she was a fan.

She can't be much of a fan because, in her video, when she would tell things about Prince she would say, "I don't anything about him, this is something I haven't heard before," so... ? What the hell? Why is she so up in arms?

I guess because he is dead and she seems to think foul play took place. Do you think that is something people should not be up in arms about? I know some orgers want their music and could give a shit about his death but damm it is weird now to care?

leadline said:

laytonian said:

leadline said: . Please list the MANY things you are referring to, or they do not exist. . Also, prove when she made these "truthful" claims before there were any news stories. . Further, this is the woman who claims Prince was poisoned by the chefs and Tyka -- right? . We will wait for your serious dissertation of these "facts". . [Edited 6/10/17 9:36am]

I am not your research assistant, and it's not on me to prove anything to anyone, her youtube videos are out there for anyone to see, she isn't hiding anything. The problem is people are lazy, and they would rather trash talk instead of doing some due diligence.

Others here who have put in the time to look into it have also verified the accuracy and timeline of her statements.

[Edited 6/10/17 11:54am]

Co-sign on the talk trash part. More research and less B.S from people would be nice.

No LR. It is not weird to care. She is not about caring.

leadline said:

lust said:

laytonian said: Spot on. As Hitchens said. "What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence."

Lol you lot are a lazy bunch, you can deny it all you want, the info is there, on record, I am not here to lead you to it, lead yourself to it if you care to verify it, or don't. You know where to find it, where to verify it, how to verify it, you know how to press play on a video, how to listen, these are basic things anyone is capable of doing.

Me typing out the facts should have no bearing, why trust what I write versus the information coming from the actualy source itself? Just makes no sense. You folks are always in attack mode on the posters themselves, especially if it challenges ones belief system, etc, becoming instant authorities on topics you know nothing about with information you cannot back up. My 'claim' , as you say, is backed up, if the prospect of hearing it from the horses mouth scares you, not sure what to say.

For example, if someone told me lust, laytonian, and Mumio were closed minded lazy trolling fools, I wouldn't take their word for it, I would research that myself, especially if it was as easy as listening to a video from the very person who claimed it in the first place.

[Edited 6/11/17 6:40am]

Nope, nice try but that's now how it works and here's why: Those you are asking to "do their own research" are naturally skeptical of your claims. Therefore, the mindset of those of us is "Why should we waste a lot of time on stuff we don't think we will believe?" That is a natural and correct position, too.

A few years ago we had a lively discussion of chemtrails here on the Org. One poster, who believed chemtrails were real and were some sort of plot, posted four hours' worth of videos on the subject. When asked to summarize them, his reply was, "No, I won't. Watch the videos and decide for yourself".

Now I ask you - would YOU watch four hours of videos on ANYTHING, much less something you are inclined to believe is poppycock? Of course not!

Your position here is akin to that of my chemtrail-believing friend. And just as wrong. So if you have a position or make a claim, you will have far more success if you back it up yourself, instead of telling us to "do our research".

My two cents from 10 years' worth of P&R threads.

laurarichardson said:

leadline said:

I am not your research assistant, and it's not on me to prove anything to anyone, her youtube videos are out there for anyone to see, she isn't hiding anything. The problem is people are lazy, and they would rather trash talk instead of doing some due diligence.

Others here who have put in the time to look into it have also verified the accuracy and timeline of her statements.

[Edited 6/10/17 11:54am]

Co-sign on the talk trash part. More research and less B.S from people would be nice.

Oh seriously. Research into what? Why on earth do you people do this? The core group of people who hang around in conspiracy, murder and ex girlfriend threads and act as if your examinations, deductions and circular arguments carry any more weight than an old biddy reading tea leaves for two quid at the village fair?

This woman, who manages to shove as many ignorant illuminati, chem-trail, big pharma (and every other conspiracy theory of the ignorant and paranoid) into a big ball of appropriated and massacred eastern philosophy, then wraps it up in a plastic US Jaysus suit?

To actually consider paying attention to this woman is research?

Thafuk is next? A comparative theological debate of 21 Nights? A cryptic sequence pointing to the fountain of youth hidden in The Ladder?

This site, I swear! Who wants to buy a bridge?

laurarichardson said:

Superfan1984 said:

She can't be much of a fan because, in her video, when she would tell things about Prince she would say, "I don't anything about him, this is something I haven't heard before," so... ? What the hell? Why is she so up in arms?

I guess because he is dead and she seems to think foul play took place. Do you think that is something people should not be up in arms about? I know some orgers want their music and could give a shit about his death but damm it is weird now to care?

Of course it is something to be up in arms about! What I mean is, I feel she is doing it for publicity because Prince is such a big name! I don't think she actually thinks she knows anything about him because I don't think she has any kind of "gift" -- I could be wrong. What I'm saying is, I don't get into Michael Jackson talk because I don't know much at all about Michael Jackson. I do think Conrad Murray killed him, but Latoya says he was just the fall guy- So, since I don't know what's going on there- I don't get involved in it. --- Blather! I'm probably not making sense... my point is, I don't think she thinks she's psychic, I think this is a name to ride for attention...publicity...

... and of course, I care, because I care about Prince! I just think this lady is trying to up her followers...

connorhawke said:

laurarichardson said:

Co-sign on the talk trash part. More research and less B.S from people would be nice.

Oh seriously. Research into what? Why on earth do you people do this? The core group of people who hang around in conspiracy, murder and ex girlfriend threads and act as if your examinations, deductions and circular arguments carry any more weight than an old biddy reading tea leaves for two quid at the village fair?

This woman, who manages to shove as many ignorant illuminati, chem-trail, big pharma (and every other conspiracy theory of the ignorant and paranoid) into a big ball of appropriated and massacred eastern philosophy, then wraps it up in a plastic US Jaysus suit?

To actually consider paying attention to this woman is research?

Thafuk is next? A comparative theological debate of 21 Nights? A cryptic sequence pointing to the fountain of youth hidden in The Ladder?

This site, I swear! Who wants to buy a bridge?

you funny

connorhawke said:

laurarichardson said:

Co-sign on the talk trash part. More research and less B.S from people would be nice.

Oh seriously. Research into what? Why on earth do you people do this? The core group of people who hang around in conspiracy, murder and ex girlfriend threads and act as if your examinations, deductions and circular arguments carry any more weight than an old biddy reading tea leaves for two quid at the village fair?

This woman, who manages to shove as many ignorant illuminati, chem-trail, big pharma (and every other conspiracy theory of the ignorant and paranoid) into a big ball of appropriated and massacred eastern philosophy, then wraps it up in a plastic US Jaysus suit?

To actually consider paying attention to this woman is research?

Thafuk is next? A comparative theological debate of 21 Nights? A cryptic sequence pointing to the fountain of youth hidden in The Ladder?

This site, I swear! Who wants to buy a bridge?

Really does not have all to do with this women. It can be the estate thread. We have people that argue about things concerning the estate that can read for themeselves from the court docs. I am sorry that shit is lazy.

Superfan1984 said:

laurarichardson said:

I guess because he is dead and she seems to think foul play took place. Do you think that is something people should not be up in arms about? I know some orgers want their music and could give a shit about his death but damm it is weird now to care?

Of course it is something to be up in arms about! What I mean is, I feel she is doing it for publicity because Prince is such a big name! I don't think she actually thinks she knows anything about him because I don't think she has any kind of "gift" -- I could be wrong. What I'm saying is, I don't get into Michael Jackson talk because I don't know much at all about Michael Jackson. I do think Conrad Murray killed him, but Latoya says he was just the fall guy- So, since I don't know what's going on there- I don't get involved in it. --- Blather! I'm probably not making sense... my point is, I don't think she thinks she's psychic, I think this is a name to ride for attention...publicity...

Maybe be true but what is she going to gain from the PR? Money or international fame? What?

laurarichardson said:

Superfan1984 said:

Of course it is something to be up in arms about! What I mean is, I feel she is doing it for publicity because Prince is such a big name! I don't think she actually thinks she knows anything about him because I don't think she has any kind of "gift" -- I could be wrong. What I'm saying is, I don't get into Michael Jackson talk because I don't know much at all about Michael Jackson. I do think Conrad Murray killed him, but Latoya says he was just the fall guy- So, since I don't know what's going on there- I don't get involved in it. --- Blather! I'm probably not making sense... my point is, I don't think she thinks she's psychic, I think this is a name to ride for attention...publicity...

Maybe be true but what is she going to gain from the PR? Money or international fame? What?

People like her crave and thrive on attention, for one thing, so yeah I'm sure she wants to 'gain' that. She WANTS an audience and validation. She also gives readings and bills herself as a 'comedienne', and she charges money for the readings anyway so if she can drum up attention I'm sure she can get a few $$$ out of that as well.

connorhawke said:

leadline said:

Lol you lot are a lazy bunch, you can deny it all you want, the info is there, on record, I am not here to lead you to it, lead yourself to it if you care to verify it, or don't. You know where to find it, where to verify it, how to verify it, you know how to press play on a video, how to listen, these are basic things anyone is capable of doing.

Me typing out the facts should have no bearing, why trust what I write versus the information coming from the actualy source itself? Just makes no sense. You folks are always in attack mode on the posters themselves, especially if it challenges ones belief system, etc, becoming instant authorities on topics you know nothing about with information you cannot back up. My 'claim' , as you say, is backed up, if the prospect of hearing it from the horses mouth scares you, not sure what to say.

For example, if someone told me lust, laytonian, and Mumio were closed minded lazy trolling fools, I wouldn't take their word for it, I would research that myself, especially if it was as easy as listening to a video from the very person who claimed it in the first place.

[Edited 6/11/17 6:40am]

Ok then. She claims prince was killed by Hillary Clinton because he was going to be releasing a tell-all exposition book of her evil. She claims that this was explained to her by Prince's "spirit". She also claims that it was done through drugs put into his pineapple in the lemon juice.

Where is the proof for these "facts"?

Now surely you see why that this woman is deranged, or at the very least has a serious emotional condition that should be attended to, and absolutely anything she says should be sees through a filter of rational defence. This should also be extended to those who follow and defend people like this, such as yourself.

Anybody with such a tenuous grasp on reality, like this woman, needs assistance. If situations like this aren't attended to by rational thinkers, we end up with the Jonestowns and Manson Families of the world.

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Yea, I saw one of her YT video's and she started going off on Hillary Clinton, and there was spit coming from her mouth! LOL

laytonian said:

cloveringold85 said:

Oh Lawd! Not this woman again!

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As annoying as she may be, she has every right to be on the sidewalk and she was not breaking any laws.

. If she's really walking into and around People's Organic accusing the owners (Prince's chefs) of killing Prince, she most certainly is breaking several laws. . She's also accusing Tyka and her husband. Very little of what she's doing ISN'T illegal.

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Unless you are threatening to do bodily harm to someone or threaten to kill someone, then there are no laws being broken.

I searched YouTube for "Abigail Prince Clinton" and more than SEVEN hours of video popped up.


No WONDER leadline wouldn't support his arguments! Who in their right mind would watch seven hours of video on this?

(HINT: No one)

rogifan said:

sonshine said:

I agree. Good question about the property lines, but i imagine the sidewalk along the fence is public? It is unfortunate they are allowed to keep this up. Hopefully law enforcement will make things as difgicult for them as they can.

Yeah I'm assuming the sidewalk is city property (especially if she's telling the truth that the cops told her she has a right to protest). But I don't know about Peoples Organic. I don't remember a city sidewalk being next to that property. Anyway I think it's so disrespectful. And what good is it serving? Most people when they hear about it just roll their eyes and get on with their life. If she's serious about this go protest at the Carver County sheriffs office.

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I agree; it is very disrespectful. She is being a nuisance. The cops can just politely ask her to go away if she is disrupting business. Perhaps a better way for her to get her message across would be to hold a civil meeting in a town hall or something. She's just too over the top for me.

RodeoSchro said:

I searched YouTube for "Abigail Prince Clinton" and more than SEVEN hours of video popped up.


No WONDER leadline wouldn't support his arguments! Who in their right mind would watch seven hours of video on this?

(HINT: No one)

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OH GAWD NOOOoooo!!

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Seriously, that woman needs to chill.

cloveringold85 said:

RodeoSchro said:

I searched YouTube for "Abigail Prince Clinton" and more than SEVEN hours of video popped up.


No WONDER leadline wouldn't support his arguments! Who in their right mind would watch seven hours of video on this?

(HINT: No one)

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OH GAWD NOOOoooo!!

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Seriously, that woman needs to chill.

I watched 2 minutes of one video (the "illuminutty" one). I'd forgotten I'd seen her before. Wow, that poor lady is in a bad place. I pray things get better for her.