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Reply #30 posted 06/07/17 4:52pm

blacknote

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feeluupp said:

TwiliteKid said:

feeluupp said: But that's just it - this category of product doesn't face the same level of expectation as a new album.

So I guess there should be promotion at all for PR DELUXE. No need for promotion at all, lets just put it out there. Cool. cool

I have a feeling we'll see some TV/radio promo the week of the release. Does it make sense? I don't know.

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Reply #31 posted 06/07/17 5:22pm

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It's gonna sell good in spite of WB zero promotion. True fans word of mouth will do all the promotion for this and future remaster deluxe releases of Prince hit albums. I want Around the World in a Day to be next to get the Remaster Deluxe treatment. To me it had the best singles next to Purple Rain.

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Reply #32 posted 06/07/17 5:27pm

rdhull

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blacknote said:



feeluupp said:




TwiliteKid said:


feeluupp said: But that's just it - this category of product doesn't face the same level of expectation as a new album.


So I guess there should be promotion at all for PR DELUXE. No need for promotion at all, lets just put it out there. Cool. cool




I have a feeling we'll see some TV/radio promo the week of the release. Does it make sense? I don't know.



Uh where do you see any tv or radio promotion for even currrent artists much less a deluxe version of someone not really current? They're mostly internet promoted
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Reply #33 posted 06/07/17 5:33pm

bonatoc

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feeluupp said:

Whats the deal?? Why no promotion at all for the upcoming PR Deluxe that will be relesed in a few weeks. I mean literally no promotion at all besides the new music site that was launched a month ago where you can buy all the WB stuff and the new remastered 7" and 12" singles...

Who is handling this, WB? Prince estate? Both?? What happens if it fails to sell, what is the future for other re releases and deluxe remasterings of his golden age 80's catalouge...


What are you talking about? Didn't you see those marvelous packshots? biggrin

The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
No Child's a failure
Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams
Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose
Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams
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Reply #34 posted 06/07/17 5:38pm

feeluupp

There's more promotion for Tyka's new "single" than their is for his most popular and commercial catalogue release... lol

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Reply #35 posted 06/07/17 5:38pm

blacknote

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rdhull said:

blacknote said:

I have a feeling we'll see some TV/radio promo the week of the release. Does it make sense? I don't know.

Uh where do you see any tv or radio promotion for even currrent artists much less a deluxe version of someone not really current? They're mostly internet promoted

I'm thinking VH1, BET, maybe Centric. Maybe a few others. We'll see.

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Reply #36 posted 06/07/17 5:44pm

luvsexy4all

cheap greedy mfers......only want ot profit ..no spending .....but itll bite them , cause THIS promotion would help other releases down the line

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Reply #37 posted 06/07/17 5:44pm

rdhull

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blacknote said:



rdhull said:


blacknote said:



I have a feeling we'll see some TV/radio promo the week of the release. Does it make sense? I don't know.



Uh where do you see any tv or radio promotion for even currrent artists much less a deluxe version of someone not really current? They're mostly internet promoted


I'm thinking VH1, BET, maybe Centric. Maybe a few others. We'll see.



I wouldn't count on that
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Reply #38 posted 06/07/17 5:46pm

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I'll never understand the obsession for chart positions from the usual suspects. It's pointless. Speculate away & see how much good it does.

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Reply #39 posted 06/07/17 5:50pm

feeluupp

Who cares about charts... I'm just baffled why the first major release since Prince's death has no promotion...

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Reply #40 posted 06/07/17 5:51pm

nosajd

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You should know by now, for Prince, this is par for the course.

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Reply #41 posted 06/07/17 5:56pm

feeluupp

nosajd said:

You should know by now, for Prince, this is par for the course.

didn't matter before... he still sold out arena's... cause he was ALIVE... year by year... the fan base will fall, and without proper promotion to preserve his masterpieces for the next and new generation.. it will just be middle aged women and old grumpy prince fans in holland sitting in an apartment to appreciate his music... lol

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Reply #42 posted 06/07/17 5:58pm

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feeluupp said:

it will just be middle aged women and old grumpy prince fans in holland sitting in an apartment to appreciate his music... lol



Which one are you? wink
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Reply #43 posted 06/07/17 5:59pm

feeluupp

TwiliteKid said:

feeluupp said:

it will just be middle aged women and old grumpy prince fans in holland sitting in an apartment to appreciate his music... lol

Which one are you? wink

neither cool

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Reply #44 posted 06/07/17 6:20pm

williamb610

I'm the guy who usually chirps in about the promotion of Purple Rain Deluxe on Yahoo.com; it's been large and small ads on Yahoo for about a month, now, if not a little longer.

I have, yet, to see any ads on TV, though. It's pretty ridiculous. This offering could really sell, which would propel future releases from Prince forwards and the Estate and/or Warner Brothers aren't doing much of anything.

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Reply #45 posted 06/07/17 6:22pm

SoulAlive

It would be so easy for Warners to take one of the previously unreleased tracks and create a music video for it...or at the very least,make a lyric video! A few years ago,Michael Jackson had a posthumous hit with "Love Never Felt So Good"...all it took was some promotion and a little effort on the labels' part.It's too bad that Warners aren't willing to do the same for Prince.
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Reply #46 posted 06/07/17 6:37pm

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SoulAlive said:

It would be so easy for Warners to take one of the previously unreleased tracks and create a music video for it...or at the very least,make a lyric video! A few years ago,Michael Jackson had a posthumous hit with "Love Never Felt So Good"...all it took was some promotion and a little effort on the labels' part.It's too bad that Warners aren't willing to do the same for Prince. [Edited 6/7/17 18:23pm]

Yea, like in that Jeep commerical lol.

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Reply #47 posted 06/07/17 7:03pm

TrivialPursuit

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You were just talking about this in #8, but now it needs a new thread? http://prince.org/msg/7/442748

[Edited 6/7/17 19:15pm]

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #48 posted 06/07/17 7:11pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

You were just talking about this here, reply #8.



Broken link?
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Reply #49 posted 06/07/17 7:15pm

TrivialPursuit

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TwiliteKid said:

TrivialPursuit said:

You were just talking about this here, reply #8.

Broken link?


Fixed. Not sure why it was giving me issue.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #50 posted 06/07/17 7:22pm

PurpleYoda3121

Actually I have seen ads for it online.
U fall in love 2 fast and hate 2 soon
And take 4 granted the feeling’s mutual
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Reply #51 posted 06/07/17 7:32pm

rdhull

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PurpleYoda3121 said:

Actually I have seen ads for it online.

Exactly. Some folks are expecting tv and radio ads for music release. A deluxe release. Like everyone in the world is a Prince die-hard or an orger lol

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Reply #52 posted 06/07/17 7:59pm

coldasice

This release is a contactual obligation. If anybody honestly thinks we're going to see these deluxe albums every year...don't get your hopes up. It's gonna be a while. We may get some more recent stuff from the 2000's that they can source off hard drives though. WB may release a box set before 2021 as a last ditch effort to cash in.
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Reply #53 posted 06/07/17 8:18pm

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TwiliteKid said:

laurarichardson said:


--WB is owned by a private equity group I doubt they are planning to spend any money promoting it. 😩


You keep making this point without offering any explanation. What makes you think the two relate at all?

Private Equity groups buy companies to make quick profits which does always mean spending a lot of excess money. In fact WB was sold the first time to a private equity group a few years ago and then sold again after continuing to lose money. I see records sales at a all time low I do not see a private equity trying to make a quick buck spending big cash on promotion when they know they have a built in fan base.
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Reply #54 posted 06/08/17 12:46am

Laydown

WB dont spend money on promos cos theyre cheap and nasty.

Sony will spend heaps on MJ promos,but the album would sell like crazy anyway without promo

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Reply #55 posted 06/08/17 1:32am

darkroman

There is lots promotion!

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There has been publicity on all music news websites and WB have sent out emails marketing the release!

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So if anyone is interested they will know about it.

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lol lol lol

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Reply #56 posted 06/08/17 2:38am

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coldasice said:

This release is a contactual obligation. If anybody honestly thinks we're going to see these deluxe albums every year...don't get your hopes up. It's gonna be a while. We may get some more recent stuff from the 2000's that they can source off hard drives though. WB may release a box set before 2021 as a last ditch effort to cash in.

--In the court docs an admenment to the WB contract was made a few weeks ago so I believe changes were made to the deal. UMG walks wants to walk away who else is going to make a deal if some of the albums are licensed to WB forever.
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Reply #57 posted 06/08/17 7:16am

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laurarichardson said:

TwiliteKid said:
You keep making this point without offering any explanation. What makes you think the two relate at all?
Private Equity groups buy companies to make quick profits which does always mean spending a lot of excess money. In fact WB was sold the first time to a private equity group a few years ago and then sold again after continuing to lose money. I see records sales at a all time low I do not see a private equity trying to make a quick buck spending big cash on promotion when they know they have a built in fan base.

The equity group wouldn't control day-to-day operations though. You're right that Warner isn't going to go all out on a legacy release, but that's standard industry practice, not a function of ultimate ownership.

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Reply #58 posted 06/08/17 7:36am

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laurarichardson said:

TwiliteKid said:
You keep making this point without offering any explanation. What makes you think the two relate at all?
Private Equity groups buy companies to make quick profits which does always mean spending a lot of excess money. In fact WB was sold the first time to a private equity group a few years ago and then sold again after continuing to lose money. I see records sales at a all time low I do not see a private equity trying to make a quick buck spending big cash on promotion when they know they have a built in fan base.


It comes down to being clever about the "product" (Lawd I hate this).
You have someone with the caliber of Jimi, Bob, Elvis, etc. If there wasn't already no culture whatsoever left, okay. But I was born in a world where the two James and Janis were already gone.
See where I'm getting at? How come do I know them, seek after records and videos of them?

If cash is their only reason to be there, let them understand that this is the long tail 101.
Prince could cash in for a century at least. Just not an incredible amount per year.
That's the thing with the world I can't understand. People seem to hate their grandchidren.
They can't stand not amassing it all in their single generation and time of being.
Never mind, the millenials are going to sodomized them for good anyways.
Coders have the power.


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The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
No Child's a failure
Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams
Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose
Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams
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Reply #59 posted 06/08/17 7:58am

RODSERLING

WB lost commercial viability in no releasing it last year (not even talking about 2014, it would be like firing on an ambulance).

They did lots of promotion for 4EVER, there were even tv ads...and it flopped, for obvious reasons (only one unreleased track, numerous best of released before, always the same tracks, etc.)

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So they think it's useless to put money on PR deluxe, knowing that in less than 4 years they will lose the rights to another Player in the game.

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Of course we all know this is unfair, and if there is a release that could sell well, it's this one. They could sell more than one million this year in the US alone with a minimum of promotion (tv adds, a tv special, a single on the radio, etc.).

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If the guys in the music industry were so smart, physical albums won't be the niche it is now.

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I'm so pissed off I'm not even sure to buy it.

[Edited 6/8/17 7:59am]

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