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Thread started 06/09/17 8:30am

lemoncrush19

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When Prince broke Captain Kirk Douglas' guitar in half

please forgive me if y'all know this story already ... I didn't ... and it's just too good lol

http://www.esquire.com/en...how-story/
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Reply #1 posted 06/09/17 9:20am

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I remember thinking at the time that that was really a dick move on Prince's part, so I'm glad to read that he did pay for the guitar in the end. It also sounds like his breaking it was an accident, which -again- wasn't how it seemed originally.

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Reply #2 posted 06/09/17 9:26am

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There was no way Prince could have known the guitar would break, but still, I thought it was disrespectful of him to throw someone elses guitar in the first place.

I would have loved to have seen him walk over to the guy and hand him his guitar back personally at the end of the song. It would have made the dudes year.




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Reply #3 posted 06/09/17 10:09am

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SanMartin said:

I remember thinking at the time that that was really a dick move on Prince's part, so I'm glad to read that he did pay for the guitar in the end. It also sounds like his breaking it was an accident, which -again- wasn't how it seemed originally.

Why would anyone think he broke the guitar on purpose. He threw his own guitars and probaly thought his tech would catch it. Sounds like he made a mistake.

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Reply #4 posted 06/09/17 11:03am

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laurarichardson said:

SanMartin said:

I remember thinking at the time that that was really a dick move on Prince's part, so I'm glad to read that he did pay for the guitar in the end. It also sounds like his breaking it was an accident, which -again- wasn't how it seemed originally.

Why would anyone think he broke the guitar on purpose. He threw his own guitars and probaly thought his tech would catch it. Sounds like he made a mistake.

I didn't see the video, but reading about it at the time made it sound like he'd broken the guitar on purpose (as rock stars are wont to do), and that it had emerged afterwards that it had been someone else's instrument. Obviously the impression I got was wrong, but that's why I thought he'd done it deliberately.

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Reply #5 posted 06/09/17 9:38pm

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Kirk probably loved it. It would be a honour for Prince to smash my strat. Think about it people,rock Gods everywhere smash their shit up cos its a symbol of rock n roll decadence. Im sure Kirk didnt mind as much as some of u think.

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Reply #6 posted 06/09/17 9:55pm

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If you read through the stories around the time it happened, Prince probably wasn't throwing it to anyone (not sure how they could placed anyone there to catch it) but I believe he wasn't really thinking about it when he did it. If you watch the clip, PRince's eyes were closed and he was immersed in his music up to about a second before he threw it quickly and I do think he bailed quickly when he realized what he did. He threw his own guitars all the time and has at times forgotten which guitar he was playing (remember his calling his guitar Habbibi on the Purple House performance and then realizing it wasn't Habbibi when he looked down.)

Kirk said an interesting thing--that framing the guitar (which he considered doing because a part of him thought it was kind of cool) would be like rewarding bad behavior, he also referenced on twitter the concepts of artist immersion in his tweets about the incident.. This made me think that P was indeed immersed in the moment and may have regretted it later. Bad behavior that resulted from artistic immersion. An accident in a way..but I think Jimmy is just being nice. Or perhaps maybe one of P's bandmembers further clarified that P was used to his guitar tech being there to catch it.

Kirk Douglass (Captain, that is..lol) actually defended Prince online the night of the broadcast when Vernon Reid ripped him a new one for being a royal Prick. Kirk told him that P apologized for breaking the guitar and paid to fix it. Unfortunately, people assumed that Prince did so to fix his bad reputation and Captain Kirk Douglass did yet another cool thing. He refuted those claims by going into detail about that night and stating that backstage right after the incident was when P apologized and that shortly after that he was told that Prince would pay to fix it.

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Reply #7 posted 06/09/17 10:42pm

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I remember when it happened and I also thought it was wrong of Prince to do that, then he refused to sign the guitar afterwards. I guess the guy knew it was broken now so why not make it a moment in History for both of them. If Prince have signed the guitar he probably wouldn't have had it repaired, instead he would have framed it I'm sure. Still a cool story that will live forever
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Reply #8 posted 06/10/17 2:58am

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why do ppl seem to like to assume the worst? even when it comes to someone they adore ... hmm

it didn't even come to my mind he could have been ruining that guitar on purpose ... why should he? eek

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Reply #9 posted 06/10/17 3:14am

Laydown

lemoncrush19 said:

why do ppl seem to like to assume the worst? even when it comes to someone they adore ... hmm

it didn't even come to my mind he could have been ruining that guitar on purpose ... why should he? eek

To be able to say Prince broke my guitar after he played it would be bragging if u ask me. Anyone ever see Hendrix set a guitar on fire

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Reply #10 posted 06/10/17 6:37am

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Good to know he did indeed make it right in the end, and Kirk's apparently a much more patient person than I am. I like Prince, but that does not give him the right to break stuff of mine. I don't care how 'immersed in the music' you are, you freaking pay attention to what's in your hands. If it doesn't belong to you, you treat it with care. It's disrespectful how long it took him to rectify this -- Prince sometimes forgot that the world did not need to kiss his behind, and was extremely lucky that people tended to overlook some of his larger flaws so readily. Honestly, sometimes I think that ole boy could have used a heavy dose of real life noping him upside the head. lol

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Reply #11 posted 06/10/17 6:53am

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Write bigger.

Also, dude or dudette, Kirk said that Prince rectified it right away. Literally, back stage he apologized and shook his hand and steps were taken immediately to get it fixed. I guess he asked Prince to sign it. Prince said he didn't sign stuff but then after that steps were taken by Prince's camp to fix it. People just wrongly assumed that Prince didn't fix it until after he got called out publically for it, Other than Prince taking steps to have it fixed after not wanting to sign something he broke--Prince got on it kind of quick.

SpookyNopetopus said:

Good to know he did indeed make it right in the end, and Kirk's apparently a much more patient person than I am. I like Prince, but that does not give him the right to break stuff of mine. I don't care how 'immersed in the music' you are, you freaking pay attention to what's in your hands. If it doesn't belong to you, you treat it with care. It's disrespectful how long it took him to rectify this -- Prince sometimes forgot that the world did not need to kiss his behind, and was extremely lucky that people tended to overlook some of his larger flaws so readily. Honestly, sometimes I think that ole boy could have used a heavy dose of real life noping him upside the head. lol

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Reply #12 posted 06/10/17 7:26am

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purplerabbithole said:

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Also, dude or dudette, Kirk said that Prince rectified it right away. Literally, back stage he apologized and shook his hand and steps were taken immediately to get it fixed. I guess he asked Prince to sign it. Prince said he didn't sign stuff but then after that steps were taken by Prince's camp to fix it. People just wrongly assumed that Prince didn't fix it until after he got called out publically for it, Other than Prince taking steps to have it fixed after not wanting to sign something he broke--Prince got on it kind of quick.

SpookyNopetopus said:

Good to know he did indeed make it right in the end, and Kirk's apparently a much more patient person than I am. I like Prince, but that does not give him the right to break stuff of mine. I don't care how 'immersed in the music' you are, you freaking pay attention to what's in your hands. If it doesn't belong to you, you treat it with care. It's disrespectful how long it took him to rectify this -- Prince sometimes forgot that the world did not need to kiss his behind, and was extremely lucky that people tended to overlook some of his larger flaws so readily. Honestly, sometimes I think that ole boy could have used a heavy dose of real life noping him upside the head. lol

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First, I have a username for a reason. Use it. 'dude or dudette' -- child, please, you want me to take you seriously with that?

Also, the point still stands, he needed to be careful with other people's property and that shit was disrespectful, period. Sorry, Prince doesn't get a pass because he's Prince. That guitar wasn't his, so he damn well should have fixed it, and he does not deserve a cookie for doing what he was supposed to do, having damaged someone else's property.

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Reply #13 posted 06/10/17 7:41am

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Where did I say that his behavior was good behavior or that he deserved a cookie for agreeing to do the decent thing and fix what he broke. All I said was that it was not as bad as people make it out. No, he shouldn't have thrown the damn guitar. But why make his crime out to be worse than it was by assuming that he didn't apologize and agree to fix it like most human beings do. The internet assumed that he did not apologize or agree to fix it. You just assumed that he took a long time to rectify the incident. There is a difference between having an asshole moment and attempting to rectify it and going out of your way to just be mean.

If a person is arrested for stealing a purse, is it right to assume that they also bitchslapped the lady they stole it from. Let's accurately describe the offense, please.

Sorry about the dude and dudette.

SpookyNopetopus said:

purplerabbithole said:

Write bigger.

Also, dude or dudette, Kirk said that Prince rectified it right away. Literally, back stage he apologized and shook his hand and steps were taken immediately to get it fixed. I guess he asked Prince to sign it. Prince said he didn't sign stuff but then after that steps were taken by Prince's camp to fix it. People just wrongly assumed that Prince didn't fix it until after he got called out publically for it, Other than Prince taking steps to have it fixed after not wanting to sign something he broke--Prince got on it kind of quick.

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First, I have a username for a reason. Use it. 'dude or dudette' -- child, please, you want me to take you seriously with that?

Also, the point still stands, he needed to be careful with other people's property and that shit was disrespectful, period. Sorry, Prince doesn't get a pass because he's Prince. That guitar wasn't his, so he damn well should have fixed it, and he does not deserve a cookie for doing what he was supposed to do, having damaged someone else's property.

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Reply #14 posted 06/10/17 8:23am

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^^^ goodness guys ... life gets so much easier as soon as y'all stop "knowing" what's right or wrong and what others should or don't πŸ˜‰ ... just try it once - highly recommended!

I had no idea what would happen when I posted that story ... but yeah it's the org ... should have known better πŸ˜ƒ

prince throw guitars a thousand times and didn't break them ... pretty sure he didn't even think of the possibility but ... shit sometimes happens and this was one of those times. and he fixed it. period. case closed. time to laugh about it. and definitely no need to start a fight over opinions ... peace and be wild ... enjoy ur saturday πŸ’œ
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Reply #15 posted 06/10/17 8:27am

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Sorry.

You are right shit just happens.

lemoncrush19 said:

^^^ goodness guys ... life gets so much easier as soon as y'all stop "knowing" what's right or wrong and what others should or don't πŸ˜‰ ... just try it once - highly recommended! I had no idea what would happen when I posted that story ... but yeah it's the org ... should have known better πŸ˜ƒ prince throw guitars a thousand times and didn't break them ... pretty sure he didn't even think of the possibility but ... shit sometimes happens and this was one of those times. and he fixed it. period. case closed. time to laugh about it. and definitely no need to start a fight over opinions ... peace and be wild ... enjoy ur saturday πŸ’œ

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Reply #16 posted 06/10/17 8:29am

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purplerabbithole said:

Sorry.



You are right shit just happens.




lemoncrush19 said:


^^^ goodness guys ... life gets so much easier as soon as y'all stop "knowing" what's right or wrong and what others should or don't πŸ˜‰ ... just try it once - highly recommended! I had no idea what would happen when I posted that story ... but yeah it's the org ... should have known better πŸ˜ƒ prince throw guitars a thousand times and didn't break them ... pretty sure he didn't even think of the possibility but ... shit sometimes happens and this was one of those times. and he fixed it. period. case closed. time to laugh about it. and definitely no need to start a fight over opinions ... peace and be wild ... enjoy ur saturday πŸ’œ



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Reply #17 posted 06/10/17 4:12pm

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SpookyNopetopus said:



purplerabbithole said:


Write bigger.



Also, dude or dudette, Kirk said that Prince rectified it right away. Literally, back stage he apologized and shook his hand and steps were taken immediately to get it fixed. I guess he asked Prince to sign it. Prince said he didn't sign stuff but then after that steps were taken by Prince's camp to fix it. People just wrongly assumed that Prince didn't fix it until after he got called out publically for it, Other than Prince taking steps to have it fixed after not wanting to sign something he broke--Prince got on it kind of quick.






SpookyNopetopus said:


Good to know he did indeed make it right in the end, and Kirk's apparently a much more patient person than I am. I like Prince, but that does not give him the right to break stuff of mine. I don't care how 'immersed in the music' you are, you freaking pay attention to what's in your hands. If it doesn't belong to you, you treat it with care. It's disrespectful how long it took him to rectify this -- Prince sometimes forgot that the world did not need to kiss his behind, and was extremely lucky that people tended to overlook some of his larger flaws so readily. Honestly, sometimes I think that ole boy could have used a heavy dose of real life noping him upside the head. lol




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First, I have a username for a reason. Use it. 'dude or dudette' -- child, please, you want me to take you seriously with that?



Also, the point still stands, he needed to be careful with other people's property and that shit was disrespectful, period. Sorry, Prince doesn't get a pass because he's Prince. That guitar wasn't his, so he damn well should have fixed it, and he does not deserve a cookie for doing what he was supposed to do, having damaged someone else's property.


-So other than replacing it what is could he had done? Maybe his head should have been cut off in the public square.
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Reply #18 posted 06/10/17 5:05pm

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Kirk probably loved it. It would be a honour for Prince to smash my strat. Think about it people,rock Gods everywhere smash their shit up cos its a symbol of rock n roll decadence. Im sure Kirk didnt mind as much as some of u think.

He didn't! It's been well reported what his reaction is. Speaking as someone whose main guitar is a 1990 PRS Custom Classic (300 made), I'd be bloody livid. It was a total dick move by Prince.

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Reply #19 posted 06/10/17 9:05pm

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Laydown said:

Kirk probably loved it. It would be a honour for Prince to smash my strat. Think about it people,rock Gods everywhere smash their shit up cos its a symbol of rock n roll decadence. Im sure Kirk didnt mind as much as some of u think.

He didn't! It's been well reported what his reaction is. Speaking as someone whose main guitar is a 1990 PRS Custom Classic (300 made), I'd be bloody livid. It was a total dick move by Prince.

I give my opinion. Reports from media are blown out of proportion,if u dont this already,sounds like u r livid,and it wasnt your guitar,wake up

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Reply #20 posted 06/11/17 11:20am

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laurarichardson said:

SpookyNopetopus said:

First, I have a username for a reason. Use it. 'dude or dudette' -- child, please, you want me to take you seriously with that?

Also, the point still stands, he needed to be careful with other people's property and that shit was disrespectful, period. Sorry, Prince doesn't get a pass because he's Prince. That guitar wasn't his, so he damn well should have fixed it, and he does not deserve a cookie for doing what he was supposed to do, having damaged someone else's property.

-So other than replacing it what is could he had done? Maybe his head should have been cut off in the public square.

Did I SAY he should have been beheaded? Nope. I just said he damn well should have replaced it, and didn't need any atta boys for doing it. Dafuq, stop being dramatic. I was just saying he should have been careful not to throw it in the first place, and since he did and it broke, damn straight he was supposed to replace it, because that's what responsible adults do.

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Reply #21 posted 06/11/17 7:27pm

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I remember Vernon ReidΒ΄s angry tweets about it...hehehehe

Well, love Prince, but this time he made a big mistake. He didnt have no right to do it. Musicians are usually very attached and jealous of their instruments. Glad he repaired it

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Reply #22 posted 06/12/17 7:24am

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SpookyNopetopus said:

laurarichardson said:

SpookyNopetopus said: -So other than replacing it what is could he had done? Maybe his head should have been cut off in the public square.

Did I SAY he should have been beheaded? Nope. I just said he damn well should have replaced it, and didn't need any atta boys for doing it. Dafuq, stop being dramatic. I was just saying he should have been careful not to throw it in the first place, and since he did and it broke, damn straight he was supposed to replace it, because that's what responsible adults do.

And he did replace it and I do not remember him making any public statement about it so I am pretty sure he was not looking for atta boy because responsible adults do not need one and do not have to go to social media to discuss everything with the world.

Pretty silly for Kirk and Vernon.

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