Asenath0607 said:

MMJas said:

Regarding TMZ and the veracity behind their "news": they now claim Chris Cornell had fresh track marks on his arm. If the toxicology report shows the same, I'm gonna start believing those bastards...

Did you believe them when they first reported the Moline incident? I didn't. I didn't even bother reading the reports, because I was like "this isn't true". I also didn't believe the pictures in the National Enquirer which claimed to be of Whitney Houston's bathroom (I didn't have cable and never saw her on the show Being Bobby Brown; although I figured she was using drugs; didn't believe it was to that extent). Maybe I'm naive. The National Enquirer also got it right about John Edwards and Rielle Hunter's baby. I have just come to think that in most of their stories (not the alien stuff), there is a "grain" of truth somewhere in all the BS.

Frankly, I did not. But I live in Portugal and we don't get TMZ over here unless we look for it online, obviously, so I remeber thinking there was indeed some incident with Prince's plane but nothing serious and when news first broke out he had died, I immediately thought it was mere speculation following the plane incident and disregarded it...

This is what I don't get: As a result of he Moline incident Prince was given two shots of Narcan. If he was an opiod addict that would send him straight into withdrawal, right? Blood test showed that he did not take opiods between the Moline incident and his death a week later. How was he able to be out and about at all during those days? Wouldn't he be terribly sick? If he was addicted to opiods, that is.

rogifan said:

cloveringold85 said:

Right now, Prince be like......

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Exactly. The one that makes me smh the most is that Kirk offed Prince so he could be with Judith Hill.

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No way! Now, that's just silly! Prince and JH were not a "couple", and I'm sure Prince would not care if KJ was hanging with JH.

veesinger said:

First time post. When news of his death first hit, there were a lot of reports coming out from TMZ. I saw video footage of him outside Walgreens where he was pacing. Now in all that has come out, that video footage has disappeared and all that's left is the picture. Then reports came out about the validity of the picture. That footage was shown BEFORE any information came out about what was found inside PP or any related material thereafter. How did it disappear? More importantly, WHY?

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Welcome to the Org!

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Fasten your seatbelt, 'cuzz you in for one craaazy ride! LOL (joking)

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Regarding the pic of Prince at Walgreen's. When that pic came out, it stirred-up a lot of controversy for sure! The pic is still on the net, but the report is gone -- is that what you are saying?

manabean84 said:

Superfan1984 said:

The Walgreens employee also said something to the effect of (off the top of my head) "We're praying for you" (to Prince) and that he said something like, "It wouldn't help now" (not exactly what he said but something similar)

I think I remember reading something at one point that one of the Walgreens employees said that he had a converstion with another Walgreens employee speculating that Prince's prescriptions were meds for AIDS.

[Edited 5/27/17 4:47am]

I'd forgotten about that but you're right. I think at first they thought they were meds for Bird Flu or something and then another employee said, "no these are Aids medications," -- something to that effect.

I do not recall any video of Prince pacing. I recall descriptions of what was happening, accompanied by still images. There is no way anything like that disappears from the Internet. Once it is there, it is permanent. We all know that, through our education of our young people about what they post, and how it is on forever. I fear that false memories are beginning to emerge.

Dini said:

veesinger said:

I remember seeing video footage of Prince pacing in the parking lot (a few times) but now all that you can find is just a picture! Thanks for the welcome! I am buckled in. Loved Prince and appreciate the his endless talent! True artist!

You saw no such thing because it does not exsist. There is a pic of him getting into a vehicle.

No pic or video of him pacing and remember the meds that were prescribed to him were not controlled substances and the one given to KJ was not what killed him.

The whole pacing thing was made up by TMZ to dramatize the stituation when they believed he was doing someting funny at the pharmacy. Trust me if something funny was going on Dr. S and KJ we would be in cuffs.

cloveringold85 said:

rogifan said:

cloveringold85 said: Exactly. The one that makes me smh the most is that Kirk offed Prince so he could be with Judith Hill.

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No way! Now, that's just silly! Prince and JH were not a "couple", and I'm sure Prince would not care if KJ was hanging with JH.

JH was the one that said they were a couple in the search warrants and the NYT article she is now back tracking. There are rumors that she is dating Kirk we do not know if that is true and I do not remember anyone saying KJ did something to Prince to get with JH.

What are you guys going to say if they start being seen together? Why is she now backtracking on being a couple?

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paulludvig said:

This is what I don't get: As a result of he Moline incident Prince was given two shots of Narcan. If he was an opiod addict that would send him straight into withdrawal, right? Blood test showed that he did not take opiods between the Moline incident and his death a week later. How was he able to be out and about at all during those days? Wouldn't he be terribly sick? If he was addicted to opiods, that is.

This is my thought, too. Maybe the Walgreens visit was to get something to alleviate the 'dope sickness' and, for whatever reason, it didn't, so he took something from PP to alleviate it, and that turned out to be a lethal dose of fentanyl. Mere speculation on my part. It's all so sad.

jillybean said:

paulludvig said:

This is what I don't get: As a result of he Moline incident Prince was given two shots of Narcan. If he was an opiod addict that would send him straight into withdrawal, right? Blood test showed that he did not take opiods between the Moline incident and his death a week later. How was he able to be out and about at all during those days? Wouldn't he be terribly sick? If he was addicted to opiods, that is.

This is my thought, too. Maybe the Walgreens visit was to get something to alleviate the 'dope sickness' and, for whatever reason, it didn't, so he took something from PP to alleviate it, and that turned out to be a lethal dose of fentanyl. Mere speculation on my part. It's all so sad.

No speculation the search warrants said that the meds he was prescribed by Dr.S were picked up at on the 20th. We do not know if he took them but they were picked up and it appears that he went with KJ to get them.

Once again what exactly was he doing at the Walgreens that was susicpious or terrible? We know the fake Watsons did not come from Walgreens and why would he be at the Walgreens if he was up to something since there are security cameras and some asshole was following him.

laurarichardson said:

jillybean said:

This is my thought, too. Maybe the Walgreens visit was to get something to alleviate the 'dope sickness' and, for whatever reason, it didn't, so he took something from PP to alleviate it, and that turned out to be a lethal dose of fentanyl. Mere speculation on my part. It's all so sad.

No speculation the search warrants said that the meds he was prescribed by Dr.S were picked up at on the 20th. We do not know if he took them but they were picked up and it appears that he went with KJ to get them.

Once again what exactly was he doing at the Walgreens that was susicpious or terrible? We know the fake Watsons did not come from Walgreens and why would he be at the Walgreens if he was up to something since there are security cameras and some asshole was following him.

I didn't realize they told us who was with Prince at Walgreens?... Or is it just your speculation?

PennyPurple said:

laurarichardson said:

No speculation the search warrants said that the meds he was prescribed by Dr.S were picked up at on the 20th. We do not know if he took them but they were picked up and it appears that he went with KJ to get them.

Once again what exactly was he doing at the Walgreens that was susicpious or terrible? We know the fake Watsons did not come from Walgreens and why would he be at the Walgreens if he was up to something since there are security cameras and some asshole was following him.

I didn't realize they told us who was with Prince at Walgreens?... Or is it just your speculation?

Prince is getting into the SUV on the passenger side. Someone had to be driving and it did say in the warrant that KJ went to Walgreens to put in the RXs. I am making the assumption that is KJ driving that SUV in that picture. Of couse the real question is who was following them and why on that day almost a week after the Moline incident.

Who tipped the photographer off that Prince was on his way to the Walgreens with KJ or whoever was driving?

laurarichardson said:

cloveringold85 said:

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No way! Now, that's just silly! Prince and JH were not a "couple", and I'm sure Prince would not care if KJ was hanging with JH.

JH was the one that said they were a couple in the search warrants and the NYT article she is now back tracking. There are rumors that she is dating Kirk we do not know if that is true and I do not remember anyone saying KJ did something to Prince to get with JH.

What are you guys going to say if they start being seen together? Why is she now backtracking on being a couple?

[Edited 5/30/17 9:26am]

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Personally, I think JH exagerrated her relationship with Prince. She made it sound like they were "romantically" involved, but I don't think that was the case at all. She did say that Prince told her "I will always be here for you". Now, to me, that sounds like a "friendship". I'm sure he genuinely loved her and cared about her, but not in a romantic kind of way, ya know?

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If JH and KJ are indeed a couple; that does not bother me at all. They have both made so many conflicting statements since Prince died, therefore, they get ZERO credibility from me!

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And, NO -- for all you people who will say "innocent until proven guilty" -- I agree! I'm not saying let's burn KJ at the stake! I'm not saying he is responsible for Prince's death, but he MAY have had a hand in it, some way, some how. But, until we know for sure, he's still on my shady list!!

laurarichardson said:

jillybean said:

This is my thought, too. Maybe the Walgreens visit was to get something to alleviate the 'dope sickness' and, for whatever reason, it didn't, so he took something from PP to alleviate it, and that turned out to be a lethal dose of fentanyl. Mere speculation on my part. It's all so sad.

No speculation the search warrants said that the meds he was prescribed by Dr.S were picked up at on the 20th. We do not know if he took them but they were picked up and it appears that he went with KJ to get them.

Once again what exactly was he doing at the Walgreens that was susicpious or terrible? We know the fake Watsons did not come from Walgreens and why would he be at the Walgreens if he was up to something since there are security cameras and some asshole was following him.

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See, this raises another big red flag for me, because there are pictures of Prince at Walgreen's the day before he died, so it's obvious someone was on his tail, but WHY?? Why was he being followed (hence why he may have appeared agitated), reported by some. I know I would be agitated too if someone was stalking me!

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There is something very shady about all of this, and I feel that someone was tipped-off, thus why Prince was being followed that day.

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I mean, I'm sure it was not unusual for Prince to pop into Walgreen's from time-to-time. There is nothing suspicious about that.

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

I didn't realize they told us who was with Prince at Walgreens?... Or is it just your speculation?

Prince is getting into the SUV on the passenger side. Someone had to be driving and it did say in the warrant that KJ went to Walgreens to put in the RXs. I am making the assumption that is KJ driving that SUV in that picture. Of couse the real question is who was following them and why on that day almost a week after the Moline incident.

Who tipped the photographer off that Prince was on his way to the Walgreens with KJ or whoever was driving?

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Sorry Laura -- I just replied to another post before reading this one; I am in agreement with what you are saying here.

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I think it was KJ driving that SUV at Walgreen's.

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That is the big question: WHO was following them, and WHY?

cloveringold85 said:

laurarichardson said:

Prince is getting into the SUV on the passenger side. Someone had to be driving and it did say in the warrant that KJ went to Walgreens to put in the RXs. I am making the assumption that is KJ driving that SUV in that picture. Of couse the real question is who was following them and why on that day almost a week after the Moline incident.

Who tipped the photographer off that Prince was on his way to the Walgreens with KJ or whoever was driving?

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Sorry Laura -- I just replied to another post before reading this one; I am in agreement with what you are saying here.

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I think it was KJ driving that SUV at Walgreen's.

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That is the big question: WHO was following them, and WHY?

It all seems to neat and pulled togehter. Prince is seen going into the Walgreens which we later find out with legit Rx's yet it is made out to be something shady by TMZ almost immediatley after he passes away. Prince had been in Minnie for almost a week after Moline so why on that day did someone follow him after he left the doctor to go to a Pharmacy. What is so interesting about that he was followed by a photographed?

Why not follow him around on the other days after Moline because if he had illegal pills is there a chance he or someone came to him with the drugs. How come know one followed him to find that out?

If something illegal or shady was going on with Dr.S how come he is still practicing medicine and how come KJ is free?

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

I didn't realize they told us who was with Prince at Walgreens?... Or is it just your speculation?

Prince is getting into the SUV on the passenger side. Someone had to be driving and it did say in the warrant that KJ went to Walgreens to put in the RXs. I am making the assumption that is KJ driving that SUV in that picture. Of couse the real question is who was following them and why on that day almost a week after the Moline incident.

Who tipped the photographer off that Prince was on his way to the Walgreens with KJ or whoever was driving?

Well it's not a fact that KJ drove him to Walgreens then.....

cloveringold85 said:

laurarichardson said:

No speculation the search warrants said that the meds he was prescribed by Dr.S were picked up at on the 20th. We do not know if he took them but they were picked up and it appears that he went with KJ to get them.

Once again what exactly was he doing at the Walgreens that was susicpious or terrible? We know the fake Watsons did not come from Walgreens and why would he be at the Walgreens if he was up to something since there are security cameras and some asshole was following him.

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See, this raises another big red flag for me, because there are pictures of Prince at Walgreen's the day before he died, so it's obvious someone was on his tail, but WHY?? Why was he being followed (hence why he may have appeared agitated), reported by some. I know I would be agitated too if someone was stalking me!

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There is something very shady about all of this, and I feel that someone was tipped-off, thus why Prince was being followed that day.

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I mean, I'm sure it was not unusual for Prince to pop into Walgreen's from time-to-time. There is nothing suspicious about that.

The story about him being agitated came from unkownn sources the only souces would have to be one of the bodyguards, KJ, Merion, or the chefs. Who else would have been in Paisley Park to know he was becoming agitated? He definitley had someone selling him out and I bet it was not for free.

cloveringold85 said:

moonsister said:

cloveringold85 said:

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See, this raises another big red flag for me, because there are pictures of Prince at Walgreen's the day before he died, so it's obvious someone was on his tail, but WHY?? Why was he being followed (hence why he may have appeared agitated), reported by some. I know I would be agitated too if someone was stalking me!

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There is something very shady about all of this, and I feel that someone was tipped-off, thus why Prince was being followed that day.

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I mean, I'm sure it was not unusual for Prince to pop into Walgreen's from time-to-time. There is nothing suspicious about that.

They were on his tail from very far away, you can tell how much they had to zoom in from the poor quality, but they were there because a few days earlier he had almost died and he was in the news. Anybody in the world can send footage to TMZ, you could live in Chan and just follow Prince around the same way we post on this forum, just a hobby.

Why did they not follow him from Saturday to Wed. Someone tipped the photographer off that he was on his way to that doctor and then to the pharmacy. So one in P's camp. Someone he P's camp slipped info about hiim being agitated and someone helped Patrick Cousins steal that church.

rogifan said:

I don't mean for this question to sound obtuse but has it actually been confirmed that he was an addict? Is there anyone credible on record admitting that? There have been so many things flying around plus people's opinions it's hard to know what's fact vs. opinion vs. rumor.

No, not one person on the record.

PennyPurple said:

laurarichardson said:

Prince is getting into the SUV on the passenger side. Someone had to be driving and it did say in the warrant that KJ went to Walgreens to put in the RXs. I am making the assumption that is KJ driving that SUV in that picture. Of couse the real question is who was following them and why on that day almost a week after the Moline incident.

Who tipped the photographer off that Prince was on his way to the Walgreens with KJ or whoever was driving?

Well it's not a fact that KJ drove him to Walgreens then.....

It is a fact that KJ picked up the Rxs from the warrant so who do you think was driving the car. Do you think P got into to drive from the passenger side to drive?

rogifan said:

I don't mean for this question to sound obtuse but has it actually been confirmed that he was an addict? Is there anyone credible on record admitting that? There have been so many things flying around plus people's opinions it's hard to know what's fact vs. opinion vs. rumor.

If he was not an addict (as they want us to believe) then he was straight up killed.

We don't know if that Walgreen photo was taken by a pro paparazzi or a regular bystander; TMZ simply said they "acquired" it and credited the photo to TMZ.com (which would be more in line with a bystander than a pro would might demand credit):

http://www.tmz.com/2016/04/21/prince-walgreens-death/

laurarichardson said:

moonsister said:

cloveringold85 said: They were on his tail from very far away, you can tell how much they had to zoom in from the poor quality, but they were there because a few days earlier he had almost died and he was in the news. Anybody in the world can send footage to TMZ, you could live in Chan and just follow Prince around the same way we post on this forum, just a hobby.

Why did they not follow him from Saturday to Wed. Someone tipped the photographer off that he was on his way to that doctor and then to the pharmacy. So one in P's camp. Someone he P's camp slipped info about hiim being agitated and someone helped Patrick Cousins steal that church.

rogifan said:

I don't mean for this question to sound obtuse but has it actually been confirmed that he was an addict? Is there anyone credible on record admitting that? There have been so many things flying around plus people's opinions it's hard to know what's fact vs. opinion vs. rumor.

I don't know if P was an addict, BUT I can tell you this, as I've stated this MANY times before. IF Prince was in fact an addict and had (supposedly) 2 shots of Narcan...those shots wipe your system of opiate effects and send you into withdrawls immidiately. In withdrawls, an addict "kicks"..LITERALLY. They have hot/cold sweats, flu like symtoms (x1000), vomiting, diarreah, runny nose, etc. If the addict goes "cold turkey" after said shot(s), these withdrawl symptoms ensue for days, sometimes weeks. The addict in withdrawl IS NOT even so much as going outside. They are not GOING ANYWHERE besides the bathroom and their bed. FACT!

Prince was riding his bike, putting on a show at PP, going to The Dakota....there is NO WAY IN HELL he was a full on addict IF he had 2 shots in Moline and did not take "any other opiates" as stated in some sources. If Prince was in full withdrawls, it is not humanly possible for him to have done anything of the sort unless the "sources" are incorrect by stating that he was "adhering to vehemently staying sober as shown in tests that reveal he had no opiates in his system directly prior to his death" . Apparently there was a test that shoed he had no fentanyl in his system, and that test was in a warrant that got sealed after authorities realized it had not been sealed, so there is no way to track this information now. As far as "no opiates whatsoever"...the only place that stated this was the case inregards to this particular test was from the forensic pathologist on the REELZ channel.

Point being- IF Prince was a full on addict, received Narcan shot(s), went cold turkey until the ingestion of the 1 fatal pill, he would've been in full on withdrawls and confined to his bed/bathroom. No one, not even Prince is/was superhuman and exempt from opiate withdrawls.

And if I am to believe what has been reported, then imo I do not believe Prince was an addict in the weeks leading up to his death.

precioux said:

disch said: