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Prince & Stevie Nicks callaboration: All Over You

Anyone have any more info on this callaboration?




http://diffuser.fm/stevie-nicks-prince-stand-back/

From the diffuser article above:

There was also a demo, posted to Fleetwood Mac’s YouTube channel on the day of Prince’s death, that was recorded by the pair but never released. It’s called “All Over You.”



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Reply #1 posted 05/16/17 6:59pm

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I think we can assume it was made sometime during the mid-80's. And you can definitely hear Prince's backing vocals and the guitar sounds like him. The rest sounds like Stevie.

This is all conjecture though.
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Reply #2 posted 05/16/17 8:00pm

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PurpleYoda3121 said:

I think we can assume it was made sometime during the mid-80's. And you can definitely hear Prince's backing vocals and the guitar sounds like him. The rest sounds like Stevie. This is all conjecture though.


Interesting that not even a mention on Princevault, it does seem legit to me.

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Reply #3 posted 05/16/17 8:00pm

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sounds awful lol

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Reply #4 posted 05/16/17 8:57pm

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I thought this was a fake
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Reply #5 posted 05/16/17 9:37pm

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I listened again this time around--it still doesn't sound like either one of them to me. I mean, there have been some things that I thought were fake that turned out weren't, but this one... I'm not hearing it.

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Reply #6 posted 05/17/17 12:03am

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This is puzzling.

For one thing, the sound palette and arrangements have "mid-to-late-90's" written all over them, so this can't possibly be from 1984 as claimed by the poster, or that would make Prince and Stevie the most visionary artists of all time.

And I can't hear Prince's voice anywhere on it. Not sure about Stevie because I'm not too familiar with her work, but Prince? Nope.

Are we certain this YT channel is the genuine, official Fleetwood Mac channel? There are loads of fake official artists channels on YT and I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case here, in which case the song is likely to be a fake.

I hope someone can shed some light on this.

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Reply #7 posted 05/17/17 2:54am

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I don't hear Prince at all on this. Like databank says, is this YT channel official? Colour me sceptical. Also the song is garbage..

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Just looking around briefly, it seems it's been floating around for years and years and from what I can see even Stevie Nicks fans don't regard it as real.

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Reply #8 posted 05/17/17 3:25am

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databank said:

This is puzzling.

For one thing, the sound palette and arrangements have "mid-to-late-90's" written all over them, so this can't possibly be from 1984 as claimed by the poster, or that would make Prince and Stevie the most visionary artists of all time.

And I can't hear Prince's voice anywhere on it. Not sure about Stevie because I'm not too familiar with her work, but Prince? Nope.

Are we certain this YT channel is the genuine, official Fleetwood Mac channel? There are loads of fake official artists channels on YT and I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case here, in which case the song is likely to be a fake.

I hope someone can shed some light on this.

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I agree completely. I had heard it was a fake. On its own, I don't mind it, a six out of ten (or thereabouts). The male vocal sounds like a vaguely George Clintonesque sing-speak-croon. Does not sound like Prince on guitar, and does not sound like 1984 at all. A song I could see used as background music in a movie, but "Billy Eckstein, he ain't" to go "Under the cherry moon" on y'all.

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Reply #9 posted 05/17/17 6:32am

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Just because we cannot hear his voice doesn't mean he wasnt playing guitar, or another instrument, or patcipated in writing, we have no idea who else was there at the time playing with them. Regardless of how the song itself sounds, I am going to go with it being true unless some evidence comes out saying ohterwise.

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Reply #10 posted 05/17/17 6:41am

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Doesn't sound like Stevie and certainly NOT Prince. Fake!

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Reply #11 posted 05/17/17 7:13am

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djThunderfunk said:

Doesn't sound like Stevie and certainly NOT Prince. Fake!


Lot's of stuff doesn't sound like Prince that is Prince, always experimenting.

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Reply #12 posted 05/17/17 7:29am

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leadline said:

Just because we cannot hear his voice doesn't mean he wasnt playing guitar, or another instrument, or patcipated in writing, we have no idea who else was there at the time playing with them. Regardless of how the song itself sounds, I am going to go with it being true unless some evidence comes out saying ohterwise.

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Hilarious. How the fuck can we prove this isn't them? Dude, this whole thread is people pointing out that the "story" WRT this track is utter BS, that it doesn't sound like Stevie, nor does it sound like Prince, and yet you still remain convinced it is them.

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Hell, Stevie has talked over and over about their one and only collaboration and never mentioned this. There is ZERO evidence this involves Prince or Stevie. It is patently obvious the work of a bunch of amateurs.

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Reply #13 posted 05/17/17 7:30am

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leadline said:

djThunderfunk said:

Doesn't sound like Stevie and certainly NOT Prince. Fake!


Lot's of stuff doesn't sound like Prince that is Prince, always experimenting.

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Go on then, what Prince tracks don't sound like Prince. Give us evidence instead of these ridiculous generalities.

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Reply #14 posted 05/17/17 8:24am

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leadline said:

Just because we cannot hear his voice doesn't mean he wasnt playing guitar, or another instrument, or patcipated in writing, we have no idea who else was there at the time playing with them. Regardless of how the song itself sounds, I am going to go with it being true unless some evidence comes out saying ohterwise.

I don't want to get into a debate because I'm done debating with people on this website, so I will not discuss it any further, but I just feel it necessary to point out that your reasoning is:

- the exact opposite of the scientific method, which consists in considering something as being true only once each and every conflicting theory has been proven false.

- the exact opposite of the journalistic method, which consists in considering something as being true only once it's been confirmed by undeniable factual evidence or a sufficient amount of believeable and concurring witness statements.

- the exact opposite of the adversarial justice system, which consists in considering an accusation false until proven true by undeniable factual evidence or a sufficient amount of believeable and concurring witness statements.

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Besides maybe religious/spiritual beliefs, which by essence involve a true leap of faith, it's very dangerous to base one's beliefs on an intellectual system that conflicts with all of the above. Just sayin' wink

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Reply #15 posted 05/17/17 8:35am

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If this song really exists and if it's really from 1984, it will inevitably be reported by Madhouseman in his upcoming book given that its existence seems to be a well known rumor in the Stevie Nicks/Fleetwood Mac community (so it's not like it's something that just popped-up out of nowhere).

However, a confirmation of its existence would not mean a confirmation of the fact that it's the specific recording we are presently discussing.

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Reply #16 posted 05/17/17 8:39am

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http://societyofrock.com/remember-the-time-stevie-nicks-and-prince-wrote-a-song-together-we-do-and-heres-the-demo/

On Wiki, it was quoted as being real and from an unreleased Stevie album

Published on Apr 21, 2016

Official Audio of "All Over You" by Prince Rogers Nelson and Stevie Nicks.

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"All Over You" was recorded by Prince and Stevie Nicks in 1984, while Nicks was recording music for her new album "Mirror, Mirror". Months later, Nicks' producer, Jimmy Iovine, quit the project. Nicks scrapped the album and it has yet to be released to this day.

Written by Prince Rogers Nelson & Stevie Nicks

I always thought it was a fake but this is coming from their real account.

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Reply #17 posted 05/17/17 8:51am

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The sampled electric guitar would place the recording date of this >= 1988. A Roland strings patch rears its head a few times in it as well, which equipment wasn't even available until mid-1987. The song also appears to be heavily influenced by his persona on the Camille tracks and Lovesexy-era idiosyncracies, with some G. Clintonesque impersonations as well. I believe you can hear the muffled console chatter of the two main vocalists at the beginning in their natural voices, which would certainly eliminate vocal participation by either Prince or Stevie. This sounds to have been recorded circa 1990/1991 (or perhaps just a little earlier). It's almost like a very rough Natural Selection-type demo. The nuances of lyrics are the most faithfully Princely part of it, but as a whole it is an amateurish cacophony that tries unconvincingly to imitate a patchwork of different eras of his 1980s sound. 1979-1982-ish somewhat generic funk rhythm guitar, with some coy 1986-1988 extraterrestrially delivered suggestive lyrics, over a late 80s digital and sampled backbone, and some un-Princely very early 1990s style drums and drum programming. It's so bad that it's good, actually.

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At a bare minimum, by the use of certain technology alone, it cannot have been recorded in 1984, to say nothing explicitly as to the involvement of either P or Stevie (an almost axiomatic negative).

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It also sounds nothing production-wise like the known 'Mirror, Mirror'/'Rock a Little' alternate or demo material.

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Official Channel with less than 6,000 subscribers in four and a half years of existence? 'Uploaded in HD with TunesToTube.com' watermarks on certain videos? Official audio? Vinyl rip-sourced uploads? Focus on B-side, maxi, 12", associated artist, and outtake material?

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Seems like a dedicated fan.

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'Warner Bros. Records' seems to be the primary or sole legitimate account for their material.

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Reply #18 posted 05/17/17 9:34am

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paisleypark4 said:

http://societyofrock.com/remember-the-time-stevie-nicks-and-prince-wrote-a-song-together-we-do-and-heres-the-demo/

On Wiki, it was quoted as being real and from an unreleased Stevie album

Published on Apr 21, 2016

Official Audio of "All Over You" by Prince Rogers Nelson and Stevie Nicks.

smarturl.it/24KaratGold

"All Over You" was recorded by Prince and Stevie Nicks in 1984, while Nicks was recording music for her new album "Mirror, Mirror". Months later, Nicks' producer, Jimmy Iovine, quit the project. Nicks scrapped the album and it has yet to be released to this day.

Written by Prince Rogers Nelson & Stevie Nicks

I always thought it was a fake but this is coming from their real account.


Interesting, thx.

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Reply #19 posted 05/17/17 9:38am

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leadline said:

djThunderfunk said:

Doesn't sound like Stevie and certainly NOT Prince. Fake!


Lot's of stuff doesn't sound like Prince that is Prince, always experimenting.


This isn't Prince, probably not Stevie, but, I have no problem if you choose to believe that it is genuine.

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Reply #20 posted 05/17/17 9:44am

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djThunderfunk said:

leadline said:


Lot's of stuff doesn't sound like Prince that is Prince, always experimenting.


This isn't Prince, probably not Stevie, but, I have no problem if you choose to believe that it is genuine.

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Stand Back doesn't really sound like Prince either. Having said that, I don't think this song is has anything to do with him.

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Reply #21 posted 05/17/17 9:49am

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paulludvig said:

djThunderfunk said:


This isn't Prince, probably not Stevie, but, I have no problem if you choose to believe that it is genuine.

wink


Stand Back doesn't really sound like Prince either. Having said that, I don't think this song is has anything to do with him.

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Well, his contributions to the actual recording itself are somewhat modest and anecdotally overstated. Most of the track had already been recorded. The partially regurgitated LRC arrangement (and the resulting publishing royalty split) is a more significant feather in his cap than the courtesy session playing he did.

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To me, his work there sounds quite a lot like what he did later in 1983 when he overdubbed 'I Would Die 4 U'.

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Reply #22 posted 05/17/17 10:16am

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i have heard it before...can't say when... seems like a long time ago



and it doesn't sound like prince to me...

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Reply #23 posted 05/17/17 10:20am

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imprimis said:

paulludvig said:

Stand Back doesn't really sound like Prince either. Having said that, I don't think this song is has anything to do with him.

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Well, his contributions to the actual recording itself are somewhat modest and anecdotally overstated. Most of the track had already been recorded. The partially regurgitated LRC arrangement (and the resulting publishing royalty split) is a more significant feather in his cap than the courtesy session playing he did.

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To me, his work here sounds quite a lot like what he did later in 1983 when he overdubbed 'I Would Die 4 U'.

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Willing to believe that this is Stevie Nix. Not Prince, though. Considering how enamored she was with his sound, it's likely she got somone in to ape his guitar. You can't copy his voice, though, which is why they don't even try.

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Reply #24 posted 05/17/17 12:03pm

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leadline said:

Anyone have any more info on this callaboration?




http://diffuser.fm/stevie-nicks-prince-stand-back/


From the diffuser article above:


There was also a demo, posted to Fleetwood Mac’s YouTube channel on the day of Prince’s death, that was recorded by the pair but never released. It’s called “All Over You.”



[Edited 5/16/17 18:22pm]


Fucking hell, this fake ass garbage was posted on a.m.p 10-15 years ago and now every 5 years this fucking crap comes around again with dumb people again asking the same irrelevant dumb fucking questions...

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Reply #25 posted 05/18/17 8:05am

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paisleypark4 said:

http://societyofrock.com/remember-the-time-stevie-nicks-and-prince-wrote-a-song-together-we-do-and-heres-the-demo/

On Wiki, it was quoted as being real and from an unreleased Stevie album

Published on Apr 21, 2016

Official Audio of "All Over You" by Prince Rogers Nelson and Stevie Nicks.

smarturl.it/24KaratGold

"All Over You" was recorded by Prince and Stevie Nicks in 1984, while Nicks was recording music for her new album "Mirror, Mirror". Months later, Nicks' producer, Jimmy Iovine, quit the project. Nicks scrapped the album and it has yet to be released to this day.

Written by Prince Rogers Nelson & Stevie Nicks

I always thought it was a fake but this is coming from their real account.

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There is ZERO evidence that the YouTube account is in any way official.

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Reply #26 posted 05/18/17 8:07am

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Neversin said:

leadline said:

Anyone have any more info on this callaboration?




http://diffuser.fm/stevie-nicks-prince-stand-back/

From the diffuser article above:

There was also a demo, posted to Fleetwood Mac’s YouTube channel on the day of Prince’s death, that was recorded by the pair but never released. It’s called “All Over You.”



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Fucking hell, this fake ass garbage was posted on a.m.p 10-15 years ago and now every 5 years this fucking crap comes around again with dumb people again asking the same irrelevant dumb fucking questions... Neversin.

I knew I had heard it long ago...

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Neversin said:

Fucking hell, this fake ass garbage was posted on a.m.p 10-15 years ago and now every 5 years this fucking crap comes around again with dumb people again asking the same irrelevant dumb fucking questions... Neversin.


Case closed.


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Reply #28 posted 05/19/17 1:22am

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djThunderfunk said:

Neversin said:

Fucking hell, this fake ass garbage was posted on a.m.p 10-15 years ago and now every 5 years this fucking crap comes around again with dumb people again asking the same irrelevant dumb fucking questions... Neversin.


Case closed.


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And therefore, as suspected, not an official FM YT channel.

There's also a fake Stevie Nicks channel BTW, probably from the same person.

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