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Video: PRINCE (TORA TORA) & THE NEW POWER GENERATION with MAYTE perform "GET WILD" Check out Prince & The New Power Generation perform "Get Wild" on The White Room. "Published on Apr 22, 2016. Channel 4 live music show The White Room had some stunning guests in its time. Few were more electric than Prince, who performed 'Get Wild' with side-project New Power Generation in April 1995." Here it is: https://m.youtube.com/wat...WGo4XKjrjc |
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Recorded April 5, 1995, aired Apri 8, 1995. He actually did a few songs, only a couple of which were aired.
- The Jam (not aired)
- Get Wild
- Hide The Bone (not aired)
- Count The Days
- Big Fun (not aired)
As a note, the "Get Wild" performance was released through the NPG Music Club in 2001 (May/Fourth edition).
Prince, as Tora Tora, was on such a mission right there in the mid-90s. His heated fight with WB was as full on as it was at any other point. He hid his face, played everything but Prince songs (mostly), chanted "Prince is dead", and flat out avoided "Prince" as much as possible.
For me, it was one of his most prolific times musically. He was creating music so fast and so often in such a short period of time, it vies the mid-80s for the title of the most prolific period. I still contend that the stripped down version of the NPG, seen in this video (Sonny, Morris, Michael, Tommy, Mayte, & ) is probably the best band he'd ever had. (Opposite of that, the Emancipation era band was the worst, IMO.) I love videos from this era.
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tbokris |
TrivialPursuit said:
For me, it was one of his most prolific times musically. He was creating music so fast and so often in such a short period of time, it vies the mid-80s for the title of the most prolific period. I still contend that the stripped down version of the NPG, seen in this video (Sonny, Morris, Michael, Tommy, Mayte, & ) is probably the best band he'd ever had. (Opposite of that, the Emancipation era band was the worst, IMO.) I love videos from this era.
I really wish I could get into Prince, post 1992 but I find it really difficult. There's some interesting moments dotted few and far between, and to go back to your comment, I would agree about the sheer output and ambition of what he was doing at this time but that doesn't equal quality by any means. It seems to me that in amongst the fight against the labels, he just misspent his energy into magazines, shops, clubs, musicals, pay per view specials, and churned out a lot of sub-par songs.
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I enjoy The Beautiful Experience film in a corny way, but the plethora of mid-paced hip hop/funk inspired jams in this era (like Get Wlid, Days of Wild, Face Down etc etc), and the slickness of Gold Exp, and Emancipation are so claustrophobic... i just don't know how to appreciate it Prince in this era.
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Someone show me the light. |
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tbokris said:
I really wish I could get into Prince, post 1992 but I find it really difficult. There's some interesting moments dotted few and far between, and to go back to your comment, I would agree about the sheer output and ambition of what he was doing at this time but that doesn't equal quality by any means. It seems to me that in amongst the fight against the labels, he just misspent his energy into magazines, shops, clubs, musicals, pay per view specials, and churned out a lot of sub-par songs.
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I enjoy The Beautiful Experience film in a corny way, but the plethora of mid-paced hip hop/funk inspired jams in this era (like Get Wlid, Days of Wild, Face Down etc etc), and the slickness of Gold Exp, and Emancipation are so claustrophobic... i just don't know how to appreciate it Prince in this era.
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Someone show me the light.
I think there's a rich period of stuff in the 90s. COME, Exodus, The Gold Experience are thick, full and textured albums. COME is dark and moody, Exodus is balls to the wall fun, and TGE is really the Purple Rain of the 90s. (Ya gotta take out those segues on Exodus though.)
When you examine funk workouts like "Now", "Billy Jack Bitch", "The Exodus Has Begun", "Get Wild", "Race", and "Pheromone", you can't sit down during those tracks. Then you have the smooth ballads like "Dark", "TMBGITW", "Shhh", and "I Hate U", or the mid-tempo mellowness of "Space", "Letitgo", "Shy" (which I hate actually), "Count The Days", and "Come". And of course the rockers "Endorphinmachine", "Peach" (a bit earlier of course), "Dolphin". It's the things we've come to expect from Prince. Each of those records are varied and interesting in texture, design, and production. Yes TGE is a bit glossy, but there's still a great band-vibe on it, opposed to the walled-off one-man-band show like other albums. His band records always have a different sonic quality to them. His output in the aughts and beyond became flat and acrylic when it came to production and mastering.
I'd say take another listen to them, without expectations. And ride the train without anticipation of scenery or destination. Let it happen as it happens.
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paulludvig |
TrivialPursuit said:
tbokris said:
I really wish I could get into Prince, post 1992 but I find it really difficult. There's some interesting moments dotted few and far between, and to go back to your comment, I would agree about the sheer output and ambition of what he was doing at this time but that doesn't equal quality by any means. It seems to me that in amongst the fight against the labels, he just misspent his energy into magazines, shops, clubs, musicals, pay per view specials, and churned out a lot of sub-par songs.
.
I enjoy The Beautiful Experience film in a corny way, but the plethora of mid-paced hip hop/funk inspired jams in this era (like Get Wlid, Days of Wild, Face Down etc etc), and the slickness of Gold Exp, and Emancipation are so claustrophobic... i just don't know how to appreciate it Prince in this era.
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Someone show me the light.
I think there's a rich period of stuff in the 90s. COME, Exodus, The Gold Experience are thick, full and textured albums. COME is dark and moody, Exodus is balls to the wall fun, and TGE is really the Purple Rain of the 90s. (Ya gotta take out those segues on Exodus though.)
When you examine funk workouts like "Now", "Billy Jack Bitch", "The Exodus Has Begun", "Get Wild", "Race", and "Pheromone", you can't sit down during those tracks. Then you have the smooth ballads like "Dark", "TMBGITW", "Shhh", and "I Hate U", or the mid-tempo mellowness of "Space", "Letitgo", "Shy" (which I hate actually), "Count The Days", and "Come". And of course the rockers "Endorphinmachine", "Peach" (a bit earlier of course), "Dolphin". It's the things we've come to expect from Prince. Each of those records are varied and interesting in texture, design, and production. Yes TGE is a bit glossy, but there's still a great band-vibe on it, opposed to the walled-off one-man-band show like other albums. His band records always have a different sonic quality to them. His output in the aughts and beyond became flat and acrylic when it came to production and mastering.
I'd say take another listen to them, without expectations. And ride the train without anticipation of scenery or destination. Let it happen as it happens.
I think the band-vibe is the reason I don't particulary like his 90s output. The wooh is on the one! |
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tbokris said:
TrivialPursuit said:
For me, it was one of his most prolific times musically. He was creating music so fast and so often in such a short period of time, it vies the mid-80s for the title of the most prolific period. I still contend that the stripped down version of the NPG, seen in this video (Sonny, Morris, Michael, Tommy, Mayte, & ) is probably the best band he'd ever had. (Opposite of that, the Emancipation era band was the worst, IMO.) I love videos from this era.
I really wish I could get into Prince, post 1992 but I find it really difficult. There's some interesting moments dotted few and far between, and to go back to your comment, I would agree about the sheer output and ambition of what he was doing at this time but that doesn't equal quality by any means. It seems to me that in amongst the fight against the labels, he just misspent his energy into magazines, shops, clubs, musicals, pay per view specials, and churned out a lot of sub-par songs. . I enjoy The Beautiful Experience film in a corny way, but the plethora of mid-paced hip hop/funk inspired jams in this era (like Get Wlid, Days of Wild, Face Down etc etc), and the slickness of Gold Exp, and Emancipation are so claustrophobic... i just don't know how to appreciate it Prince in this era. . Someone show me the light. The Exodus cd is on fire. |
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tbokris |
paulludvig said: TrivialPursuit said:
tbokris said:
I really wish I could get into Prince, post 1992 but I find it really difficult. There's some interesting moments dotted few and far between, and to go back to your comment, I would agree about the sheer output and ambition of what he was doing at this time but that doesn't equal quality by any means. It seems to me that in amongst the fight against the labels, he just misspent his energy into magazines, shops, clubs, musicals, pay per view specials, and churned out a lot of sub-par songs.
.
I enjoy The Beautiful Experience film in a corny way, but the plethora of mid-paced hip hop/funk inspired jams in this era (like Get Wlid, Days of Wild, Face Down etc etc), and the slickness of Gold Exp, and Emancipation are so claustrophobic... i just don't know how to appreciate it Prince in this era.
.
Someone show me the light.
I think there's a rich period of stuff in the 90s. COME, Exodus, The Gold Experience are thick, full and textured albums. COME is dark and moody, Exodus is balls to the wall fun, and TGE is really the Purple Rain of the 90s. (Ya gotta take out those segues on Exodus though.)
When you examine funk workouts like "Now", "Billy Jack Bitch", "The Exodus Has Begun", "Get Wild", "Race", and "Pheromone", you can't sit down during those tracks. Then you have the smooth ballads like "Dark", "TMBGITW", "Shhh", and "I Hate U", or the mid-tempo mellowness of "Space", "Letitgo", "Shy" (which I hate actually), "Count The Days", and "Come". And of course the rockers "Endorphinmachine", "Peach" (a bit earlier of course), "Dolphin". It's the things we've come to expect from Prince. Each of those records are varied and interesting in texture, design, and production. Yes TGE is a bit glossy, but there's still a great band-vibe on it, opposed to the walled-off one-man-band show like other albums. His band records always have a different sonic quality to them. His output in the aughts and beyond became flat and acrylic when it came to production and mastering.
I'd say take another listen to them, without expectations. And ride the train without anticipation of scenery or destination. Let it happen as it happens.
I think the band-vibe is the reason I don't particulary like his 90s output.
Yeah I wasn't too sure, but I think I kind of agree with that statement. For me his bands post Levi Seacer Jr-era, I'm not really into any of the members. Too much slick session work. Although John Blackwell and Ronato Neto are great.
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But yes, I'll give those albums a listen and try to be objective. So Dark is a great song, and Endorphine Machine and Imteractive and both pretty good but TGE suffers from early 90s CD bloat and those segues, dear lord, they are painful. Same with the symbol album. Why did every album in the 90s need intros and outros to every song? [Edited 5/15/17 15:42pm] |
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One of my favourites of that era. There's an extended clip from the original broadcast with the full version of Get Wild, as well as Count the Days, which has some more fine bass playing. Used to be on YT, but it's still up on a smaller video site. [Edited 5/15/17 16:05pm] "Not everything that is faced can be changed; but nothing can be changed until it is faced." - James Baldwin |
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tab32792 |
TrivialPursuit said:
Recorded April 5, 1995, aired Apri 8, 1995. He actually did a few songs, only a couple of which were aired.
- The Jam (not aired)
- Get Wild
- Hide The Bone (not aired)
- Count The Days
- Big Fun (not aired)
As a note, the "Get Wild" performance was released through the NPG Music Club in 2001 (May/Fourth edition).
Prince, as Tora Tora, was on such a mission right there in the mid-90s. His heated fight with WB was as full on as it was at any other point. He hid his face, played everything but Prince songs (mostly), chanted "Prince is dead", and flat out avoided "Prince" as much as possible.
For me, it was one of his most prolific times musically. He was creating music so fast and so often in such a short period of time, it vies the mid-80s for the title of the most prolific period. I still contend that the stripped down version of the NPG, seen in this video (Sonny, Morris, Michael, Tommy, Mayte, & ) is probably the best band he'd ever had. (Opposite of that, the Emancipation era band was the worst, IMO.) I love videos from this era.
the original NPG period was his best band...and he knew it and felt that way. |
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and i liked the segues on exodus lol especially mashed potato girl |
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tab32792 said:
the original NPG period was his best band...and he knew it and felt that way.
Well, the original NPG on paper was technically 1991 with Levi, Sonny, Michael B., Rosie, Tommy, and the Game Boyz. Before that, Fink was in there instead of Tommy. I don't think either of those incarnations was his best NPG.
When Rosie left, there were no females in the band and it def took a more masculine vibe & approach to things (Mayte be damned haha). But when The Game Boyz left, Levi jetted and Prince took over main guitar duties, it was a powerhouse. It declined a good deal, IMO, when Kat and Kirk came in. The vibe was just ...odd. Kat's a nice gal, but I never dug her as a player in his band. I assume though that you do mean this paired down 5-piece NPG we're talking about.
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zenarose said: WOW!!!! Prince and NPG were SMOKIN' 🔥🔥🔥
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Spayne |
Exodus was my first album I ever bought. I was all over Prince on the TV in the 90s.
This performance got played many many times from my VHS at the time. |
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gullahgirl |
Thank You Latin! Loved this video I thought Mayte's hair was cute with the braids! Still don't get the Tora Tora thing Prince was doing all I know when he was doing it he was covered from head to toe. In that case no bueno! Got to see my baby's face! |
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gullahgirl said:
Still don't get the Tora Tora thing...when he was doing it he was covered from head to toe.
Really? He was purposely hiding and not being Prince, as part of his "fuck you" to WB. He wasn't singing Prince songs, he was chanting "Prince is dead", etc. Tora Tora was just a character and a way for him to piss off WB, just like the name change.
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thedance |
Tora Tora...
Makes sense.
Translation it's = a Japanese warcry from World War 2..
Used by P in his own personal "war" against the Warner Bros. Prince 4Ever. |
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thedance |
Latin said:
zenarose said:
WOW!!!! Prince and NPG were SMOKIN' 🔥🔥🔥
Prince 4Ever. |
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LBrent |
deebee said:
One of my favourites of that era. There's an extended clip from the original broadcast with the full version of Get Wild, as well as Count the Days, which has some more fine bass playing. Used to be on YT, but it's still up on a smaller video site.
[Edited 5/15/17 16:05pm]
Same show from the op where P sings Count The Days
https://youtu.be/q5j7QsOiUSM [Edited 5/17/17 0:47am] |
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Guitarhero |
Wow i remember this Also remember my friends saying whats with the mask. Think i said because it's Prince and he his funky |
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mmart2008 |
Yea, well remember this, this band was a good band, and was responsible for the Gold Experience. Shame that album and that time got lost with name change, writing on his face etc. After all WB did give him Millions for his albums. Slave.............not really. Like Little Richard said of Prince's output, a little bit of something, is better than a whole lot of nothing. |
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tbokris said:
TrivialPursuit said:
For me, it was one of his most prolific times musically. He was creating music so fast and so often in such a short period of time, it vies the mid-80s for the title of the most prolific period. I still contend that the stripped down version of the NPG, seen in this video (Sonny, Morris, Michael, Tommy, Mayte, & ) is probably the best band he'd ever had. (Opposite of that, the Emancipation era band was the worst, IMO.) I love videos from this era.
I really wish I could get into Prince, post 1992 but I find it really difficult. There's some interesting moments dotted few and far between, and to go back to your comment, I would agree about the sheer output and ambition of what he was doing at this time but that doesn't equal quality by any means. It seems to me that in amongst the fight against the labels, he just misspent his energy into magazines, shops, clubs, musicals, pay per view specials, and churned out a lot of sub-par songs. . I enjoy The Beautiful Experience film in a corny way, but the plethora of mid-paced hip hop/funk inspired jams in this era (like Get Wlid, Days of Wild, Face Down etc etc), and the slickness of Gold Exp, and Emancipation are so claustrophobic... i just don't know how to appreciate it Prince in this era. . Someone show me the light. The 90's Prince just needs a good editor. Not hard to do. Some brilliant material in the lot, better than anyone else during this period. I have always appreciated his creative process and his need to put it all out there. The problem is that we got spoiled by the most creative and prolific musical period (80-88) of any artist in pop history. |
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Guitarhero said: Wow i remember this Also remember my friends saying whats with the mask. Think i said because it's Prince and he his funky |
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thedance |
thedance said:
Tora Tora...
Makes sense.
Translation it's = a Japanese warcry from World War 2..
Used by P in his own personal "war" against the Warner Bros.
I forgot to write:
Tora Tora means..... Attack Attack.. in Japanese..... Prince 4Ever. |
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zenarose said: WOW!!!! Prince and NPG were SMOKIN' 🔥🔥🔥 Thanks Latin!! You are very welcome zenarose. |
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Thanks Latin. Always love the Tora Tora stuff 1980-Present
First album bought: Controversy |
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kingricefan said: Prince killed the bass guitar!! Thanks Latin! You are very welcome kingricefan. |
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Superfan1984 said: Thank you, Latin! You are very welcome Superfan1984. |
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