ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

One thing for sure. People are good at googling/wikipediaing

benni said:

jackson35 said:

yes he did. it runs in his family. his father deid from it. he was forgetful around paisley park. he was forgetful at meetings. it was showing froim time to time

I haven't read that Prince was forgetful in meetings and around PP. Please supply the link to support this. I also haven't read that John L. died from Alzheimer's. If I recall correctly he was at one of the celebrations and appeared to be pretty with it. Also, Alzheimer's tends to hit around 65. There is early onset Alzheimer's, but the man I watched perform on stage in April of last year did not show any signs of Alzheimer's. It would have appeared when he was speaking and singing. It did not.

Keep in mind that forgetfulness is a normal part of aging. It is expected that normal adults that are aging will have some forgetfulness. Normal forgetfulness as a part of aging include:

*forgetting where you left things you use regularly, such as glasses or keys
*forgetting names of acquaintances, or even calling someone by someone else's name
*forgetting an appointment or why you walked into a room
*being easily distracted, forgetting what you just read, or the details of a conversation

*or having that feeling that the information is on the "tip of your tongue"

The dementia that comes with Alzheimer's is severe enough that impacts your daily routines, your work, hobbies, social activities, and family relationships.

Here is a great chart:

Normal age-related memory changes	Symptoms that may indicate dementia
Able to function independently and pursue normal activities, despite occasional memory lapses	Difficulty performing simple tasks (paying bills, dressing appropriately, washing up); forgetting how to do things you’ve done many times
Able to recall and describe incidents of forgetfulness	Unable to recall or describe specific instances where memory loss caused problems
May pause to remember directions, but doesn’t get lost in familiar places	Gets lost or disoriented even in familiar places; unable to follow directions
Occasional difficulty finding the right word, but no trouble holding a conversation	Words are frequently forgotten, misused, or garbled; Repeats phrases and stories in same conversation
Judgment and decision-making ability the same as always	Trouble making choices; May show poor judgment or behave in socially inappropriate ways

here is the problem with this. i don't have to read about it. i worked with prince organazation when he tours since the dirty mind days, we started noticing these issues by the time he did the jam of the year tour.

jackson35 said:

benni said:

I haven't read that Prince was forgetful in meetings and around PP. Please supply the link to support this. I also haven't read that John L. died from Alzheimer's. If I recall correctly he was at one of the celebrations and appeared to be pretty with it. Also, Alzheimer's tends to hit around 65. There is early onset Alzheimer's, but the man I watched perform on stage in April of last year did not show any signs of Alzheimer's. It would have appeared when he was speaking and singing. It did not.

Keep in mind that forgetfulness is a normal part of aging. It is expected that normal adults that are aging will have some forgetfulness. Normal forgetfulness as a part of aging include:

*forgetting where you left things you use regularly, such as glasses or keys
*forgetting names of acquaintances, or even calling someone by someone else's name
*forgetting an appointment or why you walked into a room
*being easily distracted, forgetting what you just read, or the details of a conversation

*or having that feeling that the information is on the "tip of your tongue"

The dementia that comes with Alzheimer's is severe enough that impacts your daily routines, your work, hobbies, social activities, and family relationships.

Here is a great chart:

Normal age-related memory changes	Symptoms that may indicate dementia
Able to function independently and pursue normal activities, despite occasional memory lapses	Difficulty performing simple tasks (paying bills, dressing appropriately, washing up); forgetting how to do things you’ve done many times
Able to recall and describe incidents of forgetfulness	Unable to recall or describe specific instances where memory loss caused problems
May pause to remember directions, but doesn’t get lost in familiar places	Gets lost or disoriented even in familiar places; unable to follow directions
Occasional difficulty finding the right word, but no trouble holding a conversation	Words are frequently forgotten, misused, or garbled; Repeats phrases and stories in same conversation
Judgment and decision-making ability the same as always	Trouble making choices; May show poor judgment or behave in socially inappropriate ways

here is the problem with this. i don't have to read about it. i worked with prince organazation when he tours since the dirty mind days, we started noticing these issues by the time he did the jam of the year tour.

Then it is not Alzheimer's that he had. Alzheimer's does not start at that young age, even early onset.

They don't know much more than any of us do about the autopsy or what happened in the final days leading up to Prince's death. All this does is get people stirred-up again. It's like, how many times do we need to shake the wasps nest, or and ?????

cloveringold85 said:

rogifan said:

morningsong said:

I'm choosing to believe that these cocaine accusations are the tabloid-ish way of goading the family into responding. There's some inconsistencies in what they promoted to be true and what they chose to dispel. They choose to dismiss all the people who have worked close to him over the years for the word of his deceased step sister's (yes, I said STEP sister's) lawyer's words. Looks like Anna Fantasic is the only person interviewed on this show that actually knew him. There was the PP DJ that had a fact wrong I guess he counts. Oh and the clip of an ET interview of Shelia.

I can't believe people watch this shit. What's worse is the ones that actually believe it.

benni said:

jackson35 said:

here is the problem with this. i don't have to read about it. i worked with prince organazation when he tours since the dirty mind days, we started noticing these issues by the time he did the jam of the year tour.

Then it is not Alzheimer's that he had. Alzheimer's does not start at that young age, even early onset.

What utter bullshit. There are a lot of people who are disorganized and forgetful their entire lives. That's just the way their brains are programmed; it has nothing to do with age or dementia. Enough of this crap.

jackson35 said:

moonsister said:

jackson35 said:

here is the problem with this. i don't have to read about it. i worked with prince organazation when he tours since the dirty mind days, we started noticing these issues by the time he did the jam of the year tour.

Do you think he forgot to play the guitar like Fantastic said, or was he just underweight and too weak to hold the guitar? I am interested in what you have to say, good, bad, or indifferent

he had what they called a hint of alzheimers so i would not say he forgot, but his skills slowly started to diminish. just go youtube and start watching the shows, you will see exactly what they are talking about.

jackson35 said:

moonsister said:

jackson35 said: Do you think he forgot to play the guitar like Fantastic said, or was he just underweight and too weak to hold the guitar? I am interested in what you have to say, good, bad, or indifferent

he had what they called a hint of alzheimers so i would not say he forgot, but his skills slowly started to diminish. just go youtube and start watching the shows, you will see exactly what they are talking about.

How the fuck does anyone have "a hint of Alzheimers?!" What utter bullshit. Ignorance reigns supreme on the org and the internet these days...

Because doing a Piano and Microphone tour is an easy thing to do compared to guitar solos. The stuff Prince was doing on the Piano and Microphone tour is not the stuff a person with diminished mental capacities does. I heard that concerts (about half of it). He may have had the lyrics but his piano playing was all from his memory and his improvizations. And he wasn't just playing a few chords here and there. I would argue that a piano is as hard to play (if not a bit harder) than a guitar especially when its the only accompaniment music one has.

Prince being forgettable might be the result of pain pills, over-working, not sleeping. He was sick not mentally incapacitated.

jackson35 said:

moonsister said:

jackson35 said: Do you think he forgot to play the guitar like Fantastic said, or was he just underweight and too weak to hold the guitar? I am interested in what you have to say, good, bad, or indifferent

he had what they called a hint of alzheimers so i would not say he forgot, but his skills slowly started to diminish. just go youtube and start watching the shows, you will see exactly what they are talking about.

jackson35 said:

jackson35 said:

moonsister said:

jackson35 said: Do you think he forgot to play the guitar like Fantastic said, or was he just underweight and too weak to hold the guitar? I am interested in what you have to say, good, bad, or indifferent

he had what they called a hint of alzheimers so i would not say he forgot, but his skills slowly started to diminish. just go youtube and start watching the shows, you will see exactly what they are talking about.

Who diagnosed it? How was it diagnosed? Why was a medication that helps with the memory loss and confusion not found among the medications that he was taking? Medications like Aricept can help with those things. If he had started developing Alzheimer's during the Jam of the Year (1997/1998), then it would have progressed drastically by 2016, to the point that it would have been evident during the Piano and Mic concerts. His short and long term memory loss would have been evident and he would not have been able to tell stories about Denise, about his dad, about Dr. Fink. He would not have been able to play the piano as well as he did. Also, usually, when an individual is diagnosed with Alzheimer's, they live an additional 4 to 8 years. It is rare, but an individual can live up to 20 years after diagnosis, but there are other factors at play. However, if they do manage to live up to 20 years, then it has usually advanced to the severe stage of Alzheimer's, which requires around the clock care.

Let's say Prince had it and he developed it during Jam of the Year. That means he had Alzheimer's for almost 20 years (19 years if we say it began in 1997). By this time, Prince should have been at the severe stage of Alzheimer's. Alzheimer's does progress in stages. So at the severe stage, Prince would need around the clock care, assisting him with daily activities and personal care. So, the night that he was left alone, would never have happened, because Prince would not have been able to be alone. Also, at this stage of Alzheimer's, he would not even know anyone around him, not even Kirk or Tyka. I had a patient with end-stage Alzheimer's and she could not communicate whatsoever. She did not know her husband or her children. She did not even know who she was.

So, let's say his progressed slowly, which living 20 years with Alzheimer's is already rare and would have put him in the severe stage of Alzheimer's. Moderate stage of Alzheimer's, he would not have been able to share his history during the piano and pic concerts, because at this stage of Alzheimer's, they forget their own personal history. He would not even be able to give you his own address or phone number. He would've had to have someone choose appropriate clothing for him, appropriate for the weather. He would become lost and not know where he was and would be at risk for wandering. It is usually at this stage in which someone gets in a car and drives and has no clue where they are and the family report them missing. They can't go home because they don't know where home is.

So, if Prince had Alzheimer's back in 1997/98, then a lot of the last several years that Prince performed, produced and released albums, gave interviews, would not have happened.

[Edited 5/21/17 17:03pm]

benni said:

jackson35 said:

he had what they called a hint of alzheimers so i would not say he forgot, but his skills slowly started to diminish. just go youtube and start watching the shows, you will see exactly what they are talking about.

Who diagnosed it? How was it diagnosed? Why was a medication that helps with the memory loss and confusion not found among the medications that he was taking? Medications like Aricept can help with those things. If he had started developing Alzheimer's during the Jam of the Year (1997/1998), then it would have progressed drastically by 2016, to the point that it would have been evident during the Piano and Mic concerts. His short and long term memory loss would have been evident and he would not have been able to tell stories about Denise, about his dad, about Dr. Fink. He would not have been able to play the piano as well as he did. Also, usually, when an individual is diagnosed with Alzheimer's, they live an additional 4 to 8 years. It is rare, but an individual can live up to 20 years after diagnosis, but there are other factors at play. However, if they do manage to live up to 20 years, then it has usually advanced to the severe stage of Alzheimer's, which requires around the clock care.

Let's say Prince had it and he developed it during Jame of the Year. That means he had Alzheimer's for almost 20 years (19 years if we say it began in 1997). By this time, Prince should have been at the severe stage of Alzheimer's. Alzheimer's does progress in stages. So at the severe stage, Prince would need around the clock care, assisting him with daily activities and personal care. So, the night that he was left alone, would never have happened, because Prince would not have been able to be alone. Also, at this stage of Alzheimer's, he would not even know anyone around him, not even Kirk or Tyka. I had a patient with end-stage Alzheimer's and she could not communicate whatsoever. She did not know her husband or her children. She did not even know who she was.

So, let's say his progressed slowly, which living 20 years with Alzheimer's is already rare and would have put him in the severe stage of Alzheimer's. Moderate stage of Alzheimer's, he would not have been able to share his history during the piano and pic concerts, because at this stage of Alzheimer's, they forget their own personal history. He would not even be able to give you his own address or phone number. He would've had to have someone choose appropriate clothing for him, appropriate for the weather. He would become lost and not know where he was and would be at risk for wandering. It is usually at this stage in which someone gets in a car and drives and has no clue where they are and the family report them missing. They can't go home because they don't know where home is.

So, if Prince had Alzheimer's back in 1997/98, then a lot of the last several years that Prince performed, produced and released albums, gave interviews, would not have happened.

[Edited 5/21/17 17:02pm]

Thank you. This is total B.S. My mother had early onset Alzheimer's and Prince did not. And even in cases with early onset, it progresses more rapidly than people think it does.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

https://www.co.carver.mn....nt?id=7375

Above is the link to the 911 call in 2011 from Germany about the coke.

This person is whacked.

The caller indicated Prince told her about his coke habits one year prior to the call to the police.

That list is hilarious. The callouts are funny, one when Prince went out for a drive and someone got suspicious, fans showing up and stalking, a fog machine setting off a fire alarm and occasional deranged women looking for Prince. And I am only up to 2013

.

The fact remains unless any of us are qualified doctor (Not witch doctors, finks or funkdoctors) we can not diagnosis about Prince. Thye only doctor on site at his death was Schulenberg who was operating as a DR FEELGOOD (Drug dispenser) and nothing else. Josh Kornfeld was a teen running errands (And yet his bag had drugs in it too), whether he was astudent or not, he was not a doctor.

Too much mystery and speculation and not enough truth.

Adorecream said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

https://www.co.carver.mn....nt?id=7375

Above is the link to the 911 call in 2011 from Germany about the coke.

This person is whacked.

The caller indicated Prince told her about his coke habits one year prior to the call to the police.

That list is hilarious. The callouts are funny, one when Prince went out for a drive and someone got suspicious, fans showing up and stalking, a fog machine setting off a fire alarm and occasional deranged women looking for Prince. And I am only up to 2013

.

The fact remains unless any of us are qualified doctor (Not witch doctors, finks or funkdoctors) we can not diagnosis about Prince. Thye only doctor on site at his death was Schulenberg who was operating as a DR FEELGOOD (Drug dispenser) and nothing else. Josh Kornfeld was a teen running errands (And yet his bag had drugs in it too), whether he was astudent or not, he was not a doctor.

Too much mystery and speculation and not enough truth.

And this will always be Prince's legacy. He'd probably like it. Began in mystery and controversy...and end where he began.

purplethunder3121 said:

benni said:

Who diagnosed it? How was it diagnosed? Why was a medication that helps with the memory loss and confusion not found among the medications that he was taking? Medications like Aricept can help with those things. If he had started developing Alzheimer's during the Jam of the Year (1997/1998), then it would have progressed drastically by 2016, to the point that it would have been evident during the Piano and Mic concerts. His short and long term memory loss would have been evident and he would not have been able to tell stories about Denise, about his dad, about Dr. Fink. He would not have been able to play the piano as well as he did. Also, usually, when an individual is diagnosed with Alzheimer's, they live an additional 4 to 8 years. It is rare, but an individual can live up to 20 years after diagnosis, but there are other factors at play. However, if they do manage to live up to 20 years, then it has usually advanced to the severe stage of Alzheimer's, which requires around the clock care.

Let's say Prince had it and he developed it during Jame of the Year. That means he had Alzheimer's for almost 20 years (19 years if we say it began in 1997). By this time, Prince should have been at the severe stage of Alzheimer's. Alzheimer's does progress in stages. So at the severe stage, Prince would need around the clock care, assisting him with daily activities and personal care. So, the night that he was left alone, would never have happened, because Prince would not have been able to be alone. Also, at this stage of Alzheimer's, he would not even know anyone around him, not even Kirk or Tyka. I had a patient with end-stage Alzheimer's and she could not communicate whatsoever. She did not know her husband or her children. She did not even know who she was.

So, let's say his progressed slowly, which living 20 years with Alzheimer's is already rare and would have put him in the severe stage of Alzheimer's. Moderate stage of Alzheimer's, he would not have been able to share his history during the piano and pic concerts, because at this stage of Alzheimer's, they forget their own personal history. He would not even be able to give you his own address or phone number. He would've had to have someone choose appropriate clothing for him, appropriate for the weather. He would become lost and not know where he was and would be at risk for wandering. It is usually at this stage in which someone gets in a car and drives and has no clue where they are and the family report them missing. They can't go home because they don't know where home is.

So, if Prince had Alzheimer's back in 1997/98, then a lot of the last several years that Prince performed, produced and released albums, gave interviews, would not have happened.

[Edited 5/21/17 17:02pm]

Thank you. This is total B.S. My mother had early onset Alzheimer's and Prince did not. And even in cases with early onset, it progresses more rapidly than people think it does.

It does progress fairly rapidly for some individuals, in others, it can be a slower progression, but after 20 years, it would be fairly evident that he had Alzheimer's not just to those around him, but to his fans who paid close attention to him. He would not have been on twitter posting, either.

Unless, what Jackson is referring to when he says "a hint of Alzheimer's" is the preclinical stage. In that stage, however, there are no symptoms, so there wouldn't have been anything to notice. Prince wouldn't have known anything was wrong and neither would those around him. The only way to diagnose it during this stage is through genetic testing for biomarkers. Preclinical stage can last for years before it advances to the next stage - mild cognitive impairment stage, which it is extremely difficult to diagnose Alzheimer's at this stage and most doctors won't diagnose it until it progresses to the next stage -- mild dementia due to Alzheimer's. The reason why they won't diagnose it at that stage is because there are too many conditions that can cause mild cognitive impairments. But once these symptsom start showing up, it tends to progress through the stages fairly quickly (within the 4 to 8 years).

I'm sorry about your mom. I've seen a lot of caregivers dealing with the Alzheimer's during these stages and it's not easy to take care of them. There is a lot of stress and hurt feelings, too.

[Edited 5/21/17 17:28pm]

All I see is Prince going...

"Mmph!"

jackson35 said:

benni said:

purplethunder3121 said:

Thank you. This is total B.S. My mother had early onset Alzheimer's and Prince did not. And even in cases with early onset, it progresses more rapidly than people think it does.

It does progress fairly rapidly for some individuals, in others, it can be a slower progression, but after 20 years, it would be fairly evident that he had Alzheimer's not just to those around him, but to his fans who paid close attention to him. He would not have been on twitter posting, either.

Unless, what Jackson is referring to when he says "a hint of Alzheimer's" is the preclinical stage. In that stage, however, there are no symptoms, so there wouldn't have been anything to notice. Prince wouldn't have known anything was wrong and neither would those around him. The only way to diagnose it during this stage is through genetic testing for biomarkers. Preclinical stage can last for years before it advances to the next stage - mild cognitive impairment stage, which it is extremely difficult to diagnose Alzheimer's at this stage and most doctors won't diagnose it until it progresses to the next stage -- mild dementia due to Alzheimer's. The reason why they won't diagnose it at that stage is because there are too many conditions that can cause mild cognitive impairments. But once these symptsom start showing it, it tends to progress through the stages fairly quickly (within the 4 to 8 years).

Yes, and there were no signs of this at the two back-to-back concerts I went to in 2014. And there were no teleprompters. I was three feet from the stage. Whatever was going on with Prince--it wasn't dementia. And that's the last remark I will say on this subject. Let the death controversalists go wild. I'm out.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

All I see is Prince going...

"Mmph!"

Those dang eyes get me every time.

purplethunder3121 said:

benni said:

It does progress fairly rapidly for some individuals, in others, it can be a slower progression, but after 20 years, it would be fairly evident that he had Alzheimer's not just to those around him, but to his fans who paid close attention to him. He would not have been on twitter posting, either.

Unless, what Jackson is referring to when he says "a hint of Alzheimer's" is the preclinical stage. In that stage, however, there are no symptoms, so there wouldn't have been anything to notice. Prince wouldn't have known anything was wrong and neither would those around him. The only way to diagnose it during this stage is through genetic testing for biomarkers. Preclinical stage can last for years before it advances to the next stage - mild cognitive impairment stage, which it is extremely difficult to diagnose Alzheimer's at this stage and most doctors won't diagnose it until it progresses to the next stage -- mild dementia due to Alzheimer's. The reason why they won't diagnose it at that stage is because there are too many conditions that can cause mild cognitive impairments. But once these symptsom start showing it, it tends to progress through the stages fairly quickly (within the 4 to 8 years).

Yes, and there were no signs of this at the two back-to-back concerts I went to in 2014. And there were no teleprompters. I was three feet from the stage. Whatever was going on with Prince--it wasn't dementia. And that's the last remark I will say on this subject. Let the death controversalists go wild. I'm out.

I was at his final concerts last year in April, 7 PM and 10 PM, and there was no evidence of Alzheimer's, and there would have been if he had been diagnosed in 1997/98.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

benni said:

purplethunder3121 said:

Yes, and there were no signs of this at the two back-to-back concerts I went to in 2014. And there were no teleprompters. I was three feet from the stage. Whatever was going on with Prince--it wasn't dementia. And that's the last remark I will say on this subject. Let the death controversalists go wild. I'm out.

I was at his final concerts last year in April, 7 PM and 10 PM, and there was no evidence of Alzheimer's, and there would have been if he had been diagnosed in 1997/98.

And there you have it.

jackson35 said:

benni said:

I haven't read that Prince was forgetful in meetings and around PP. Please supply the link to support this. I also haven't read that John L. died from Alzheimer's. If I recall correctly he was at one of the celebrations and appeared to be pretty with it. Also, Alzheimer's tends to hit around 65. There is early onset Alzheimer's, but the man I watched perform on stage in April of last year did not show any signs of Alzheimer's. It would have appeared when he was speaking and singing. It did not.

Keep in mind that forgetfulness is a normal part of aging. It is expected that normal adults that are aging will have some forgetfulness. Normal forgetfulness as a part of aging include:

*forgetting where you left things you use regularly, such as glasses or keys
*forgetting names of acquaintances, or even calling someone by someone else's name
*forgetting an appointment or why you walked into a room
*being easily distracted, forgetting what you just read, or the details of a conversation

*or having that feeling that the information is on the "tip of your tongue"

The dementia that comes with Alzheimer's is severe enough that impacts your daily routines, your work, hobbies, social activities, and family relationships.

Here is a great chart:

Normal age-related memory changes	Symptoms that may indicate dementia
Able to function independently and pursue normal activities, despite occasional memory lapses	Difficulty performing simple tasks (paying bills, dressing appropriately, washing up); forgetting how to do things you’ve done many times
Able to recall and describe incidents of forgetfulness	Unable to recall or describe specific instances where memory loss caused problems
May pause to remember directions, but doesn’t get lost in familiar places	Gets lost or disoriented even in familiar places; unable to follow directions
Occasional difficulty finding the right word, but no trouble holding a conversation	Words are frequently forgotten, misused, or garbled; Repeats phrases and stories in same conversation
Judgment and decision-making ability the same as always	Trouble making choices; May show poor judgment or behave in socially inappropriate ways

here is the problem with this. i don't have to read about it. i worked with prince organazation when he tours since the dirty mind days, we started noticing these issues by the time he did the jam of the year tour.

Because you noticed these issues of forgetting things does not mean he had alzheimer's. How in the world did he do those piano and mic shows. Even with the lyrics on his I-Pad he had to remember the notes to the songs. He certainly did not misuse any of the words during the shows.

No one things Prince was in perfect health I just do not think it was Alzheimer's. I know he mentioned seizures and that can cause confusion.

I work with people that have Alzheimer's. I'm a social worker and work with elderly and many of them are diagnosed with dementia not related to Alzheimer's, or are diagnosed with Alzheimer's. (They usually call it "old timers".) I've watched it progress through the stages. And when I was a social worker with hospice, I've watched those with severe or end-stage Alzheimer's. It is a debilitating disease that progresses through these stages and it is evident when they are talking (even in the mild forms of the disease) that they have cognitive issues. It would also have shown up during interviews and it did not.

rogifan said:

Vashtix said:

I do not want to bash but she creeps me out.She still calls him her husband and they have not been living together for over a decade or more. She celebrates their wedding day . . . and it is really out there. It is extra and please peeps no egg and tomato throwing.

No bashing of her being an exwife- collaborator or whatever else - just my opinion

Yes creepy as hell.

How long have a few of us being saying she is bonkers? She actuallly had not lived with for over 20 years and had not seen him in 10 years.

She is stalking him even now that he is in the grave and she is saying she will be writing another book. Maybe people will start to see her for what she is and stop saying anyone who points out the obvious is hating.

sonshine said:

laurarichardson said:

No everybody on his crew was using drugs and I lot of people got fired at the end. Not one single person has said he was on drugs not one. Estates cannot sue so why are people not talking I mean putting their name to these stories.

There are engineers like Susan Roger who spent days with him and they have said he was not high.

A concerned female friend reported to the carver county sheriff's dept that Prince had a coke problem and admitted to her that he couldnt quit. Just sayin. I know Prince preached clean living. I believe he wanted to be drug free. I believe he attempted to keep any drug use minimal and under control. I believe if there is any truth to this it was in the early years, certainly not in the last couple decades. And I dont believe he was ever a constant user of any particular drug. But its simply naive to think anyone in the music business as long as he was, anyone who was as famous as he was, anyone who lived in LA for some amount of time, anyone as secretive as he was, anyone who could stay up and work for extended periods of time like he did, anyone as creative as he was, anyone who could perform like he did, didnt ever use any drugs to enhance his creativity and stamina, or to diminish any inhibitions or performance anxiety. I'm sorry if thats so hard for some people to accept. I've read so many rock star biographies and autobiographies, and numerous published stories and articles about musicians and the music business that paint a very clear picture of the prevalence of drug use in this population. It is what it is. I dont really care. It doesnt make me feel or think any differently about him. At all. [Edited 5/20/17 23:51pm]

No one thinks Prince went his whole life never touching any drugs ( I have managed to do this but I am not in the industry he was in) however hitting a joint or taking a tote of coke is a lot difference than people implying he was a daily drug user going back to the 80s. There is no one in the history of the music industry who has managed a fourty year carreer as a continual recerational drug user with any measure of success. If you read any biographies you would know that as soon as they start using those drugs things go to hell and a hand cart and only few have recovered.

He worked extended periods of times because of insommnia. You have Susan Rogers. Wendy and Lisa saying he was sleep deprived and he even said sleep was a watse of time. He said that my guest is because he could not sleep and was to stubbord to anything about and keep in mind it gave him an advantage over other people in his field.

Prince also went out of his way to womenize, piss people off and shake up the music industry. He was not trying to win friends and influence people. If someone wanted to out him for the following things they would have a long time ago.

drinking, drugs, gay, women beating, child mosleting or severe mental illness. None of this has happend except on a tabloid T.V show which did not even bother to speak to anyone who actually can confirm with their own eyeballs that any of these things occured.

Once again where are the crediable witness to these events. Estates cannot sue so why are people not talking.

luvgirl said:

rogifan said:

I can't believe people watch this shit. What's worse is the ones that actually believe it.

Yup, they believe it. Every time there is a new Reelz program about Prince, one of my co-workers come up to me to tell me the new scoop they found out on Prince. When I try to tell them that Reelz isn't a good source, they tell me "No no, It's good, I watch it all the time..."

Guys you are so right - they are loose with facts and seem to make it up as they go along.