hehehe I said the Happy Mondays were pretty funky, they were, it was a groovy time with WFL & Step On etc, the other bands were more examples for great music, rather than The Funk !!
And Prince loved to play Manchester, whenever he played the UK he always came to Manchester, 2 of the best Prince Gigs I went to were at the Academy in 2014, awesome nights | |
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For a place that doesn't 'do funk' (apparently), I can't find links to any other cities hosting a 3-day Prince conference... | |
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Don't take this thread off topic, please folks.
This conference is going to be fantastic.
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FYI, it's a world-wide academic conference. The attendees will not necessarily be professional funk soldiers. In fact, most popular culturologists aren't entertainers (just like most political scientists are not politicians and most astronomers aren't stars). full lips, freckles, and upturned nose | |
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i wonder how many people will actually pay 240 for people to regurgitate what we already know [Edited 5/21/17 8:50am] I'm feeling a bit fammy™ | |
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This comment is kinda level-headed. full lips, freckles, and upturned nose | |
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Named after the Duchamp-referencing lyric from "I'll Do Anything", which in itself will be an obscure reference to many - how many people have thought to make an educated comparison talk and the life and work about Prince and Duchamp? How many people there will be aware of Duchamp at all ? Not many, in all likelihood - therefore an interesting, original talk.
Yes, many have an awareness that Prince at times in his career positioned himself as a post-racial man of Uptown, a world where color didn't matter, racial ambiguity was something he deliberately played on to avoid being pigeonholed (for example, deliberately casting a white woman as his mother in Purple Rain) - and at other times in his career, Prince was proudly, fiercely, unapologetically black in how he presented his image - for example, look what the rise of hip-hop did when you compare the racial mix of The Revolution compared with the original New Power Generation - you go from Wendy, Lisa and Bobby to Sonny, Michael, Tony, Levi, etc. |
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I do wonder who the event is aimed at though, its quite expensive and a 3 day midweek conference, so anyone who works, like myself, would struggle to attend.
I can't see many Prince fans attending, so I expect it will be more of a cultural discussion, rather than Prince specific, with a nod to his influences, the person who knows the answers to the makeup of his bands gender/race/influences etc cannot answer unfortunatley.
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I guess it's aimed mostly at academics. I understand what you're saying - I took time off work so I can attend. |
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Salford University 64 Pages of Speaker extracts:
http://blogs.salford.ac.u...tracts.pdf
I wonder if this will be circulated on Video...?
some of the titles are SO interesting..
NOTED YOUR COMMENT On the other thread Militant | |
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Im thrilled that Academics are talking about Prince and deeply contemplating his relevance and Profound Cultural impact....
His work is being taken Seriously and deservedly so..
Malcom X and Martin Luther can rest in peace
~Prince has taken things to the next level
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I just listened to this Militant...
Fantastic work...Thank you
...Im of the Same opinion regarding PARADE
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how lucky we were to have shared the journey with this amazing genius. He will be studied & revered for years to come. | |
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I can't help thinking Prince would have a smirk on his face seeing a load of Academics debating his impact on culture/race/music/sexuality, I can imagine him walking in the conference having been to the wreka stow and just putting something funky on............ | |
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IM A TROLL THAT KNOWS MORE ABOUT MUSIC THAN YOU'LL EVER KNOW! ***BTW IM STILL WAITING TO HEAR ABOUT ONE FUNKY ARTIST DOING SOMETHING ORIGINAL IN MANCHESTER!
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Prince played anywhere where there would be a pay cheque! *** my heart is with the innocent people that lost thier lives at Manchester Arena.. it totally Sucks!!!
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Will questlove be at the conference. he really knows his stuff when it comes to P?
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Funk from England came in the form of a band known as Heatwave,Rod Temperton was in it,one very funky muso.Late 70s,80s. | |
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About to leave to catch my train to the conference. I'll be dropping in with updates, also on the org Twitter account.
Dez talk is at 7pm tonight UK time. |
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I'll be interested in following updates from the conference... "Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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but its not worth £240 to receive information about how Prince was unapologetically black and an a contrast between an unreleased song [Edited 5/24/17 15:09pm] I'm feeling a bit fammy™ | |
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For a lot of People Hearing Prince being discussed honoured by the Intellectuals of our world who are for the large part without hyperbole is actually Priceless.. | |
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looking forward to your reports from last night with Dez...cant believe he actually played guitar!! | |
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Dez was on BBC Breakfast TV this morning being interviewed, its filmed at Salford Quays, video won't stay online long as its on BBC Site, dez is on at 3:06:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/ipla...-25052017#
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ha so funny when you know the presenters no fuck all about Prince. A quick run through google to find some questions | |
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A good conference is about so much more than the papers: Thursday evening, dinner at a Pizza Express in Manchester: 8 amazing people – black, white, women, a man (ya, he was a bit outnumbered!), gathered here from the USA, Canada, the UK ... and probably an age span of 30 years or more between us. All together because we love Prince. Laughter. A lot of laughter. A LOT. At my end of the table: stories of first becoming aware of Prince, like really noticing ... and of ending up in YouTube marathons, watching live performnces from 9 p.m. to 4:00 a.m. (on a work night), transfixed. These sensible professors, writers, lawyers, journalists, independent scholars, org lurkers, org posters: a collection of funny, thoughtful, smart, sassy, sexy people. All together: beautiful. Thanks Prince.
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The funny thing is, one of the presenters Naga knew a whole lot more about Prince:
It was very lazy journalism and abit disrespectful to Dez to not know some basics, like they showed Wendy playing Purple Rain, she pretty much replaced him, so why not show 1999 where he's in the video???
He did a very nice swerve on them when they asked about some of the Prince secrets/rumours, and he replied it was more amazing people didn't know about his sense of humour and he was a prankster, I got the feeling he's given that line a few times !!!
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Apparently, one of the conference discussions was about whether Prince was a misogynist or a feminist. And the speaker contended that he was too complicated to be either. I agree for the most point except of the use of the word misogynist (that word is thrown around too loosely. Even Prince at his most sexist was never a woman hater.)
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So I put a bunch of photos up at The Violet Reality fb page if you guys are interested.
It was an absolutely fantastic three days. I'm going to do a full video review for YouTube over the next week which I'll post here but I just wanted to share some quick highlights :
- Dez's keynote speech was amazing, enlightening, and hilarious! He shared stories of his audition with Prince and Andre, and noted that recently he heard "the other side of the story" from Andre regarding the discussions Andre and P had after Dez left his audition. He noted that at the end of the audition, Prince asked him several very deep questions about life and he instantly felt P was wise beyond his years. He also talked about Prince had asked him for a 3 year commitment in 1983 and he just felt so exhausted with everything by that point that he felt he couldn't do it. What's interesting to me is that Prince had talked about this "3 year commitment" back in 1983 - as we know, P broke up The Rev in 86, which raises an interesting question as to whether that was always the plan, for The Revolution to only last 3 years. He briefly played guitar licks including the Little Red Corvette solo, I wanted more guitar though! |
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So I don't think I was at the specific talk you're referring to, but in the talks that focused on his movies, the question came up as to whether it's difficult to show Purple Rain to younger people now because of the sexist aspects - ie The Kid slapping Apollonia, Morris throwing the girl in the dumpster, The Kid co-ercing Apples to strip off and jump in the water, etc. |
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