Reply #90 posted 05/02/17 3:06pm
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margi said: Doozer said: I would hope that even Prince would answer "it's a lot of work, but it's worth it for the musical freedom it affords me." There was a price to pay for having that type of a facility on notice at any moment to be ready to record, rehearse, produce clothing, etc., but that's what he wanted. Had it been too hard to overcome, I think we would have seen a selloff or more renting of the facilities in later years. Prince knew he could tour the hits whenever he wanted to make up for any financial shortcomings he had. He always had a way of overcoming financial strees, and he was fortunate that doing so involved doing what he loved most: playing live.
Who knows what type of collateral was put up to get PP built, but if you think of it in terms of a home loan in the US, which averages 30 years, it could have been paid off by 2018 had there been no refinancing involved. Margi says.... Paisley Park was paid for by cash and totalled $3,000,000. The plans for a museum were already underway and maintenance would have been carried out in preparation. With his LLC in place his music was protected and he controlled the revenue from all his music to go to beneficiaries that are not known of and may never be known. [Edited 5/2/17 6:08am]. Paisley was 7 to 10 million. Remember he got some tax breaks to build a $10 million business building and later wanted the property tax appraisal lowered to $7 million. The actual value, 30 years later, is higher than what's commonly stated but would drive up the estate taxes. . Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me. |
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Reply #91 posted 05/02/17 3:10pm
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PeteSilas said:
laytonian said: skywalker said:
Paisley Park is NOT financial burden to a wealthy person. A big complex in Chanhassen would be cheaper than a modest mansion (or studio) in LA or NY. It's like someone said: it seems perplexing to spend millions to have/maintain a studio in the middle of a MN farm field, yet if a rock star spends the same amount on coke...no one questions [Edited 5/1/17 17:54pm] . Absolutely. Plus that $2.5 million a month is from the '90s when P was paying 127 people every month to do God knows what. He looked around, saw things were out of control and fired a bunch of people. . Don't forget, too, that he had the Dakota house (Huntsberries last listed occupants!) and Turks-Caicos places for sale before he died. Those two sales would have brought millions. . .
wha'ts the dakota house and were the huntsberries chick's fam? why would prince take care of them for so many years? . 8016 Dakota Ave, Chanhassen. Recently upgraded. Several of the info sites list Linda Huntsberry (Chick's wife) as living there until a few years ago. . It's for sale for about $285,000. . Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me. |
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Reply #92 posted 05/02/17 3:14pm
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laurarichardson said: < Do you do it every year? I do not mean painting I mean a gutting of your kitchen or bathroom. Or the whole house. . We always have a project. We don't hit the whole place but it's important to keep things fresh and modern. Last year we turned our daughter's bedroom into the guestroom off my dreams. We've lived here for 41 years. You have to do stuff. .anyone can come in and find flaws. Same as Paisley. When it's your place, you please yourself only. . Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me. |
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Reply #93 posted 05/02/17 3:16pm
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Se7en said: Anything the size of Paisley Park needs a facilities manager, grounds crew, etc. to function and be maintained properly.
Whose job was it to fix the air conditioning when it broke? Or leaky pipes? I can't imagine Prince in the later years doing ANY of this himself (not even talking about the actual work, I'm talking about even calling anyone).
But, other than "repair" type issues, I can hardly think of PP as a spiritual or creative burden. Everyone wants somewhere to call their own, with their own stuff where they want it, etc.
. Kirk was facilities manager the last few years. Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me. |
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Reply #94 posted 05/02/17 4:52pm
PeteSilas |
laytonian said:
laurarichardson said:
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Do you do it every year? I do not mean painting I mean a gutting of your kitchen or bathroom. Or the whole house.
. We always have a project. We don't hit the whole place but it's important to keep things fresh and modern. Last year we turned our daughter's bedroom into the guestroom off my dreams. We've lived here for 41 years. You have to do stuff. .anyone can come in and find flaws. Same as Paisley. When it's your place, you please yourself only. .
that's right but for my own self, i've never really gotten caught up in things like that. I have a car I paid 400 for and it serves me as well as a car i coulda spent 50,000 on so I don't get it. I guess a bmw would impress people but those aren't the kinds of people i want around. what i'm saying, in effect, is that I do a lot of work for people which i wouldn't even do for myself. putting in flowers and shit |
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Reply #95 posted 05/02/17 5:04pm
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PeteSilas said:
laytonian said:
laurarichardson said: . We always have a project. We don't hit the whole place but it's important to keep things fresh and modern. Last year we turned our daughter's bedroom into the guestroom off my dreams. We've lived here for 41 years. You have to do stuff. .anyone can come in and find flaws. Same as Paisley. When it's your place, you please yourself only. .
that's right but for my own self, i've never really gotten caught up in things like that. I have a car I paid 400 for and it serves me as well as a car i coulda spent 50,000 on so I don't get it. I guess a bmw would impress people but those aren't the kinds of people i want around. what i'm saying, in effect, is that I do a lot of work for people which i wouldn't even do for myself. putting in flowers and shit
The most important rooms to upgrade are the kitchens and bathrooms. Nothing wrong with a fresh coat of paint. I kind of think Prince would have upgraded as he was readying for a musuem. It really does appear more and more that he was winding things down and I am sure his associates no more than what they are saying. |
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Reply #96 posted 05/02/17 6:04pm
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laytonian said:
purplepoppy said:
"Pushing 60" is different when you get there. You'll see (lord willing and the crick don't rise). Some things are actually easier, some aren't. People project a lot.
. Pushing 70 is even easier. You automatically prioritize and don't realize it. Plus you have to make a real effort to keep everything new and fresh. .
Thanks laytonian- needed that. Brand new boogie without the hero. |
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Reply #97 posted 05/03/17 6:32am
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laytonian said:
Se7en said:
Anything the size of Paisley Park needs a facilities manager, grounds crew, etc. to function and be maintained properly.
Whose job was it to fix the air conditioning when it broke? Or leaky pipes? I can't imagine Prince in the later years doing ANY of this himself (not even talking about the actual work, I'm talking about even calling anyone).
But, other than "repair" type issues, I can hardly think of PP as a spiritual or creative burden. Everyone wants somewhere to call their own, with their own stuff where they want it, etc.
. Kirk was facilities manager the last few years.
Thanks Laytonian - didn't know that.
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Reply #98 posted 05/03/17 11:57am
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margi said:
Margi says.... Paisley Park was paid for by cash and totalled $3,000,000. The plans for a museum were already underway and maintenance would have been carried out in preparation. With his LLC in place his music was protected and he controlled the revenue from all his music to go to beneficiaries that are not known of and may never be known. [Edited 5/2/17 6:08am]
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Reply #99 posted 05/09/17 8:27pm
bibrose |
Se7en said:
Anything the size of Paisley Park needs a facilities manager, grounds crew, etc. to function and be maintained properly.
Whose job was it to fix the air conditioning when it broke? Or leaky pipes? I can't imagine Prince in the later years doing ANY of this himself (not even talking about the actual work, I'm talking about even calling anyone).
But, other than "repair" type issues, I can hardly think of PP as a spiritual or creative burden. Everyone wants somewhere to call their own, with their own stuff where they want it, etc.
KJ was the Facilities Manager. P started to do some renovations before he passed. The Main Soundstage area was renovated for the PAAM concerts. I am sure he would gradually have renovated the whole thing, if he had not passed.
"This was going to be one of Prince’s most important performances, and he knew it. He had invested considerably in the event, commissioning a full remodel his main soundstage area at Paisley Park in preparation for the Gala. Cushions and comfortable seating created a homely environment. The sound production had to create a sense of space, alongside a poignant intimacy where you could hear a pin drop. This was going to be special."
Source: https://thepurplestream.w...21st-2016/
Here is a video showing the remodel work in the main soundstage area: https://www.youtube.com/w...oOuIRs_Y9o
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Reply #100 posted 05/11/17 6:59pm
precioux |
bibrose said:
Se7en said:
Anything the size of Paisley Park needs a facilities manager, grounds crew, etc. to function and be maintained properly.
Whose job was it to fix the air conditioning when it broke? Or leaky pipes? I can't imagine Prince in the later years doing ANY of this himself (not even talking about the actual work, I'm talking about even calling anyone).
But, other than "repair" type issues, I can hardly think of PP as a spiritual or creative burden. Everyone wants somewhere to call their own, with their own stuff where they want it, etc.
KJ was the Facilities Manager. P started to do some renovations before he passed. The Main Soundstage area was renovated for the PAAM concerts. I am sure he would gradually have renovated the whole thing, if he had not passed.
"This was going to be one of Prince’s most important performances, and he knew it. He had invested considerably in the event, commissioning a full remodel his main soundstage area at Paisley Park in preparation for the Gala. Cushions and comfortable seating created a homely environment. The sound production had to create a sense of space, alongside a poignant intimacy where you could hear a pin drop. This was going to be special."
Source: https://thepurplestream.w...21st-2016/ Here is a video showing the remodel work in the main soundstage area: https://www.youtube.com/w...oOuIRs_Y9o Thanks for the YT link! I know this will sound geeky, but I was so excited-KCOOLMUSIKQ posted on that video!! The clip actually made me somber |
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Reply #101 posted 05/11/17 8:41pm
rdhull |
precioux said:
bibrose said:
Source: https://thepurplestream.w...21st-2016/
Here is a video showing the remodel work in the main soundstage area: https://www.youtube.com/w...oOuIRs_Y9o
Thanks for the YT link! I know this will sound geeky, but I was so excited-KCOOLMUSIKQ posted on that video!! The clip actually made me somber
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Reply #102 posted 05/11/17 10:17pm
ForceofNature |
precioux said:
bibrose said:
Source: https://thepurplestream.w...21st-2016/
Here is a video showing the remodel work in the main soundstage area: https://www.youtube.com/w...oOuIRs_Y9o
Thanks for the YT link! I know this will sound geeky, but I was so excited-KCOOLMUSIKQ posted on that video!! The clip actually made me somber
KCOOLMUSIKQ posted on it? Oh just checked it out lol |
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Reply #103 posted 05/12/17 10:58am
precioux |
Seriously?! Get a life! I'll post what the phuek I want,when the phuek I want.You don't like it, don't start a thread where anyone CAN post what the phuek they want
Ciao
rdhull said:
precioux said:
bibrose said: Thanks for the YT link! I know this will sound geeky, but I was so excited-KCOOLMUSIKQ posted on that video!! The clip actually made me somber
Please dont mention his name in my threads, thanks. Mgt.
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Reply #104 posted 05/12/17 11:05am
rdhull |
I think you misunderstand: I said "please" and "thank you"
Please follow the rules of the thread...thanks again, mgt.
precioux said:
Seriously?! Get a life! I'll post what the phuek I want,when the phuek I want.You don't like it, don't start a thread where anyone CAN post what the phuek they want
Ciao
rdhull said:
Please dont mention his name in my threads, thanks. Mgt.
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Reply #105 posted 05/12/17 11:20am
precioux |
Maybe I wasn't clear enough?
rdhull said:
I think you misunderstand: I said "please" and "thank you"
Please follow the rules of the thread...thanks again, mgt.
precioux said:
Seriously?! Get a life! I'll post what the phuek I want,when the phuek I want.You don't like it, don't start a thread where anyone CAN post what the phuek they want
Ciao
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Reply #106 posted 05/12/17 11:24am
rdhull |
Please stay on topic. Thank you.
hugs ((()))
precioux said:
Maybe I wasn't clear enough?
rdhull said:
I think you misunderstand: I said "please" and "thank you"
Please follow the rules of the thread...thanks again, mgt.
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Reply #107 posted 05/12/17 11:40am
rogifan |
bibrose said:
Se7en said:
Anything the size of Paisley Park needs a facilities manager, grounds crew, etc. to function and be maintained properly.
Whose job was it to fix the air conditioning when it broke? Or leaky pipes? I can't imagine Prince in the later years doing ANY of this himself (not even talking about the actual work, I'm talking about even calling anyone).
But, other than "repair" type issues, I can hardly think of PP as a spiritual or creative burden. Everyone wants somewhere to call their own, with their own stuff where they want it, etc.
KJ was the Facilities Manager. P started to do some renovations before he passed. The Main Soundstage area was renovated for the PAAM concerts. I am sure he would gradually have renovated the whole thing, if he had not passed.
"This was going to be one of Prince’s most important performances, and he knew it. He had invested considerably in the event, commissioning a full remodel his main soundstage area at Paisley Park in preparation for the Gala. Cushions and comfortable seating created a homely environment. The sound production had to create a sense of space, alongside a poignant intimacy where you could hear a pin drop. This was going to be special."
Source: https://thepurplestream.w...21st-2016/ Here is a video showing the remodel work in the main soundstage area: https://www.youtube.com/w...oOuIRs_Y9o Does anyone know why the love symbol on the large door was painted over? Or did I just dream that? Paisley Park is in your heart
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Reply #108 posted 05/16/17 7:46pm
rap |
margi said:
Doozer said:
I would hope that even Prince would answer "it's a lot of work, but it's worth it for the musical freedom it affords me." There was a price to pay for having that type of a facility on notice at any moment to be ready to record, rehearse, produce clothing, etc., but that's what he wanted. Had it been too hard to overcome, I think we would have seen a selloff or more renting of the facilities in later years. Prince knew he could tour the hits whenever he wanted to make up for any financial shortcomings he had. He always had a way of overcoming financial strees, and he was fortunate that doing so involved doing what he loved most: playing live.
Who knows what type of collateral was put up to get PP built, but if you think of it in terms of a home loan in the US, which averages 30 years, it could have been paid off by 2018 had there been no refinancing involved.
Margi says.... Paisley Park was paid for by cash and totalled $3,000,000. The plans for a museum were already underway and maintenance would have been carried out in preparation. With his LLC in place his music was protected and he controlled the revenue from all his music to go to beneficiaries that are not known of and may never be known. [Edited 5/2/17 6:08am]
Tell that to Joel Weinshanker. |
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Reply #109 posted 05/16/17 7:49pm
rap |
bibrose said:
Se7en said:
Anything the size of Paisley Park needs a facilities manager, grounds crew, etc. to function and be maintained properly.
Whose job was it to fix the air conditioning when it broke? Or leaky pipes? I can't imagine Prince in the later years doing ANY of this himself (not even talking about the actual work, I'm talking about even calling anyone).
But, other than "repair" type issues, I can hardly think of PP as a spiritual or creative burden. Everyone wants somewhere to call their own, with their own stuff where they want it, etc.
KJ was the Facilities Manager. P started to do some renovations before he passed. The Main Soundstage area was renovated for the PAAM concerts. I am sure he would gradually have renovated the whole thing, if he had not passed.
"This was going to be one of Prince’s most important performances, and he knew it. He had invested considerably in the event, commissioning a full remodel his main soundstage area at Paisley Park in preparation for the Gala. Cushions and comfortable seating created a homely environment. The sound production had to create a sense of space, alongside a poignant intimacy where you could hear a pin drop. This was going to be special."
Source: https://thepurplestream.w...21st-2016/
Here is a video showing the remodel work in the main soundstage area: https://www.youtube.com/w...oOuIRs_Y9o
Who the hell carpets a sound stage? |
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Reply #110 posted 05/16/17 8:00pm
rap |
bibrose said:
Se7en said:
Anything the size of Paisley Park needs a facilities manager, grounds crew, etc. to function and be maintained properly.
Whose job was it to fix the air conditioning when it broke? Or leaky pipes? I can't imagine Prince in the later years doing ANY of this himself (not even talking about the actual work, I'm talking about even calling anyone).
But, other than "repair" type issues, I can hardly think of PP as a spiritual or creative burden. Everyone wants somewhere to call their own, with their own stuff where they want it, etc.
KJ was the Facilities Manager. P started to do some renovations before he passed. The Main Soundstage area was renovated for the PAAM concerts. I am sure he would gradually have renovated the whole thing, if he had not passed.
"This was going to be one of Prince’s most important performances, and he knew it. He had invested considerably in the event, commissioning a full remodel his main soundstage area at Paisley Park in preparation for the Gala. Cushions and comfortable seating created a homely environment. The sound production had to create a sense of space, alongside a poignant intimacy where you could hear a pin drop. This was going to be special."
Source: https://thepurplestream.w...21st-2016/
Here is a video showing the remodel work in the main soundstage area: https://www.youtube.com/w...oOuIRs_Y9o
KJ?? |
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Reply #111 posted 05/20/17 3:33am
Reply #112 posted 05/21/17 6:28am
kmama07 |
rap said:
bibrose said:
Se7en said:
Anything the size of Paisley Park needs a facilities manager, grounds crew, etc. to function and be maintained properly.
Whose job was it to fix the air conditioning when it broke? Or leaky pipes? I can't imagine Prince in the later years doing ANY of this himself (not even talking about the actual work, I'm talking about even calling anyone).
But, other than "repair" type issues, I can hardly think of PP as a spiritual or creative burden. Everyone wants somewhere to call their own, with their own stuff where they want it, etc.
KJ was the Facilities Manager. P started to do some renovations before he passed. The Main Soundstage area was renovated for the PAAM concerts. I am sure he would gradually have renovated the whole thing, if he had not passed.
"This was going to be one of Prince’s most important performances, and he knew it. He had invested considerably in the event, commissioning a full remodel his main soundstage area at Paisley Park in preparation for the Gala. Cushions and comfortable seating created a homely environment. The sound production had to create a sense of space, alongside a poignant intimacy where you could hear a pin drop. This was going to be special."
Source: https://thepurplestream.w...21st-2016/
Here is a video showing the remodel work in the main soundstage area: https://www.youtube.com/w...oOuIRs_Y9o
Who the hell carpets a sound stage? I was wondering the same thing...perhaps it is because they don't for see any use of soundstage other than museum tour purposes now? |
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Reply #114 posted 05/21/17 8:30pm
laytonian
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kmama07 said: rap said:
bibrose said:
Se7en said:
Anything the size of Paisley Park needs a facilities manager, grounds crew, etc. to function and be maintained properly.
Whose job was it to fix the air conditioning when it broke? Or leaky pipes? I can't imagine Prince in the later years doing ANY of this himself (not even talking about the actual work, I'm talking about even calling anyone).
But, other than "repair" type issues, I can hardly think of PP as a spiritual or creative burden. Everyone wants somewhere to call their own, with their own stuff where they want it, etc.
KJ was the Facilities Manager. P started to do some renovations before he passed. The Main Soundstage area was renovated for the PAAM concerts. I am sure he would gradually have renovated the whole thing, if he had not passed.
"This was going to be one of Prince’s most important performances, and he knew it. He had invested considerably in the event, commissioning a full remodel his main soundstage area at Paisley Park in preparation for the Gala. Cushions and comfortable seating created a homely environment. The sound production had to create a sense of space, alongside a poignant intimacy where you could hear a pin drop. This was going to be special."
Source: https://thepurplestream.w...21st-2016/
Here is a video showing the remodel work in the main soundstage area: https://www.youtube.com/w...oOuIRs_Y9o
Who the hell carpets a sound stage? I was wondering the same thing...perhaps it is because they don't for see any use of soundstage other than museum tour purposes now? . Prince had it done. It would absorb the echoes and make the sound clearer. That's why Streisand used to have arena floors and aisles carpeted. . Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me. |
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Reply #115 posted 05/22/17 9:41am
rdhull |
I've said many times before that I think Paisley Park gave him too many toys at his fingertips around the clock. It stifled some of his creativity in using the limitations of what was available. As soon as he had access to Paisley Park, his production style shifted from a very lean, efficient style to an everything-but-the-kitchen-sink style. No need fir going into paid studio time with a rough plan. No need to edit up front. No need to do without or improvise on the fly.
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Reply #116 posted 05/22/17 10:47am
rdhull |
laytonian said:
kmama07 said:
I was wondering the same thing...perhaps it is because they don't for see any use of soundstage other than museum tour purposes now?
. Prince had it done. It would absorb the echoes and make the sound clearer. That's why Streisand used to have arena floors and aisles carpeted. .
I thought it was to make PP more intimate "Climb in my fur." |
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