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Mayte Says There Was a Will - at one point

In an AP video interview, she said she asked Prince about a will. They had a child coming and that should something happen, she didn't want to be left there trying to muddle through and untangle everything. She said he's protective of his music, so it's odd to her that no will was found. She doesn't know what happened to the will he said he had. She never saw it, if it existed back then.



Prince was also aware, but hadn't said anything about the fact, that Mayte was writing a book. She said she was before he died. But she also said he knew she'd never lie or write some trashy tell-all about their relationship.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #1 posted 04/27/17 10:15am

precioux

Regardless of if there was a will or not when Mayte was married to Prince, when they divorced, said will is null and void. Don't know how to put it in "legal terms", but that's about the jist of it. A mod even mentioned previously that there was another will in place when Prince was married to Manuela...same scenario-voided after divorce.

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Reply #2 posted 04/27/17 10:55am

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TrivialPursuit said:

In an AP video interview, she said she asked Prince about a will. They had a child coming and that should something happen, she didn't want to be left there trying to muddle through and untangle everything. She said he's protective of his music, so it's odd to her that no will was found. She doesn't know what happened to the will he said he had. She never saw it, if it existed back then.



Prince was also aware, but hadn't said anything about the fact, that Mayte was writing a book. She said she was before he died. But she also said he knew she'd never lie or write some trashy tell-all about their relationship.

The book was pulled as it was annouced and then vanished. She is a trip.

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Reply #3 posted 04/27/17 11:00am

TrivialPursuit

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laurarichardson said:

The book was pulled as it was annouced and then vanished. She is a trip.


Pulled from what? Do you even have a clue how long it takes to write a book, proof it, proof it again, then - wait for it - proof it again. Edits, rewrites. Then to get it printed, design work done, published, distributed, advertised, etc. It's not an overnight gig, no matter the author.

I've written three books. They never just happened. Just because you didn't hear about Mayte's day to day doesn't mean it was pulled or it vanished. It means you ain't pals.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #4 posted 04/27/17 11:00am

alandail

laurarichardson said:

TrivialPursuit said:

In an AP video interview, she said she asked Prince about a will. They had a child coming and that should something happen, she didn't want to be left there trying to muddle through and untangle everything. She said he's protective of his music, so it's odd to her that no will was found. She doesn't know what happened to the will he said he had. She never saw it, if it existed back then.



Prince was also aware, but hadn't said anything about the fact, that Mayte was writing a book. She said she was before he died. But she also said he knew she'd never lie or write some trashy tell-all about their relationship.

The book was pulled as it was annouced and then vanished. She is a trip.

what do you mean? The book is out.

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Reply #5 posted 04/27/17 11:01am

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precioux said:

Regardless of if there was a will or not when Mayte was married to Prince, when they divorced, said will is null and void. Don't know how to put it in "legal terms", but that's about the jist of it. A mod even mentioned previously that there was another will in place when Prince was married to Manuela...same scenario-voided after divorce.


That depends on what's in the will, and what's in a divorce decree. Wills are automatically voided because of a divorce. That's just silly.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #6 posted 04/27/17 11:22am

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alandail said:

laurarichardson said:

The book was pulled as it was annouced and then vanished. She is a trip.

what do you mean? The book is out.

The book was announced back in March of last year. There was a press release and then it vanished right around the time the stuff that she tried to auction off was pulled.

Does she really think a private person like Prince would be okay with what she is doing? She has a right to do it and should just be honest about it and stop implying that he would be okay with her sharing personal stuff with the world for money.

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Reply #7 posted 04/27/17 11:43am

precioux

TrivialPursuit said:

precioux said:

Regardless of if there was a will or not when Mayte was married to Prince, when they divorced, said will is null and void. Don't know how to put it in "legal terms", but that's about the jist of it. A mod even mentioned previously that there was another will in place when Prince was married to Manuela...same scenario-voided after divorce.


That depends on what's in the will, and what's in a divorce decree. Wills are automatically voided because of a divorce. That's just silly.

Edit: Found it. Post#62 on the thread "April21,2016..what was going through his mind"

it is stated that" if Prince made Mayte or Manuela a bennificiary,the will would not be valid as a divorce would revoke either/or as a bineficiary."

[Edited 4/27/17 11:54am]

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Reply #8 posted 04/27/17 12:25pm

laytonian

precioux said:



TrivialPursuit said:




precioux said:


Regardless of if there was a will or not when Mayte was married to Prince, when they divorced, said will is null and void. Don't know how to put it in "legal terms", but that's about the jist of it. A mod even mentioned previously that there was another will in place when Prince was married to Manuela...same scenario-voided after divorce.




That depends on what's in the will, and what's in a divorce decree. Wills are automatically voided because of a divorce. That's just silly.



Edit: Found it. Post#62 on the thread "April21,2016..what was going through his mind"

it is stated that" if Prince made Mayte or Manuela a bennificiary,the will would not be valid as a divorce would revoke either/or as a bineficiary."

[Edited 4/27/17 11:54am]


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Untrue. A will does not expire with a marriage or divorce.
The legal wording is what counts.
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Never take legal advice from someone who spells it "bennificiary" and "bineficiary" in the same sentence.

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If a beneficiary is named by name, the status of the relationship does not matter. They are still a beneficiary in case of divorce
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If it's written as "wife" and there is a legal divorce AND specific wording, then a subsequent beneficiary (already named) inherits.
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An entire will is NOT invalidated in the case of a divorce unless it is written to specifically expire when the divorce is final. It would more likely be a trust.
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Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me.
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Reply #9 posted 04/27/17 12:39pm

LBrent

Sounds like P had a will when he was with Mayte then invalidated it after the marraige ended.

Possibly had another will during his time M2 as well and the same ending.

But apparently he didn't make another valid will by 4/21.

I have to say this cuz I get the odd feeling that there are folks thinking that she mentioned a will cuz they think she's implying she wanted to or was "in line" to inherit something, but I didn't get the feeling that was why she mentioned it.

I think she was genuinely mentioning what she remembered and being surprised that he did'nt have a will by 4/21.

sad

[Edited 4/27/17 12:40pm]

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Reply #10 posted 04/27/17 12:47pm

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LBrent said:

Sounds like P had a will when he was with Mayte then invalidated it after the marraige ended.

Possibly had another will during his time M2 as well and the same ending.

But apparently he didn't make another valid will by 4/21.

I have to say this cuz I get the odd feeling that there are folks thinking that she mentioned a will cuz they think she's implying she wanted to or was "in line" to inherit something, but I didn't get the feeling that was why she mentioned it.

I think she was genuinely mentioning what she remembered and being surprised that he did'nt have a will by 4/21.

sad

[Edited 4/27/17 12:40pm]

She is trying to stay relevant eek

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Reply #11 posted 04/27/17 12:48pm

precioux

laytonian said:

precioux said:

Edit: Found it. Post#62 on the thread "April21,2016..what was going through his mind"

it is stated that" if Prince made Mayte or Manuela a bennificiary,the will would not be valid as a divorce would revoke either/or as a bineficiary."

[Edited 4/27/17 11:54am]

. Untrue. A will does not expire with a marriage or divorce. The legal wording is what counts. . Never take legal advice from someone who spells it "bennificiary" and "bineficiary" in the same sentence. . If a beneficiary is named by name, the status of the relationship does not matter. They are still a beneficiary in case of divorce . If it's written as "wife" and there is a legal divorce AND specific wording, then a subsequent beneficiary (already named) inherits. . An entire will is NOT invalidated in the case of a divorce unless it is written to specifically expire when the divorce is final. It would more likely be a trust. .

GTFOOH...seriously?I was not "giving legal advice", dipshit. That was not my quote, I referenced it ...and I'd believe ISLIJAG any day over a paralegal/court reporter....besides, I don't see Mayte or Mani stepping forward to stake a claim as a benificiary, do you?

[Edited 4/27/17 12:52pm]

[Edited 4/27/17 12:54pm]

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Reply #12 posted 04/27/17 1:00pm

moonsister

The best way to revoke a will is to make a new will, but Prince took the time and energy to just revoke a will without making a new one?? Even though he had the vault full of music, millions in real estate, and pet charities? I don't buy it. Please let there be a child somewhere!
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Reply #13 posted 04/27/17 2:10pm

bsprout

LBrent said:

Sounds like P had a will when he was with Mayte then invalidated it after the marraige ended.



Possibly had another will during his time M2 as well and the same ending.



But apparently he didn't make another valid will by 4/21.



I have to say this cuz I get the odd feeling that there are folks thinking that she mentioned a will cuz they think she's implying she wanted to or was "in line" to inherit something, but I didn't get the feeling that was why she mentioned it.



I think she was genuinely mentioning what she remembered and being surprised that he did'nt have a will by 4/21.



sad





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I agree. In the video she says she asked Prince (in reference to a will), "what do you want?...I need you to write down exactly what you want", or something to this effect. To me, this says that while she clearly wanted something in place for her and her son, she was also leaving the details entirely up to him, and taking a 'hands-off' approach. This is what I believe, anyway. I don't believe she was a gold digger. I mean, hello, if that was the case she could've really taken him to the cleaners, and she didn't.
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Reply #14 posted 04/27/17 2:48pm

Superfan1984

laurarichardson said:

alandail said:

what do you mean? The book is out.

The book was announced back in March of last year. There was a press release and then it vanished right around the time the stuff that she tried to auction off was pulled.

Does she really think a private person like Prince would be okay with what she is doing? She has a right to do it and should just be honest about it and stop implying that he would be okay with her sharing personal stuff with the world for money.

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[Edited 4/27/17 15:35pm]

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Reply #15 posted 04/27/17 2:49pm

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Here's the bigger question: If Prince was telling the truth, and there was a will in 1996 or 1997, who was his lawyer at the time? Would that person not know? I mean, a person with Prince's type of assets doesn't just type up something in Word, and get it notarized by a Notary Public.

Ultimately, Londell said he could never get Prince to draw one up. Out of sight, out of mind. Makes me wonder if he was lying to Mayte just to ignore it.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #16 posted 04/27/17 3:15pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

Here's the bigger question: If Prince was telling the truth, and there was a will in 1996 or 1997, who was his lawyer at the time? Would that person not know? I mean, a person with Prince's type of assets doesn't just type up something in Word, and get it notarized by a Notary Public.

Ultimately, Londell said he could never get Prince to draw one up. Out of sight, out of mind. Makes me wonder if he was lying to Mayte just to ignore it.


I am sorry no one should take anything Londell has said seriously. He could have none about a will and just did not say anything and if Orince got rid of after the divorce it would not matter anyway.
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Reply #17 posted 04/27/17 3:16pm

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bsprout said:

LBrent said:

Sounds like P had a will when he was with Mayte then invalidated it after the marraige ended.



Possibly had another will during his time M2 as well and the same ending.



But apparently he didn't make another valid will by 4/21.



I have to say this cuz I get the odd feeling that there are folks thinking that she mentioned a will cuz they think she's implying she wanted to or was "in line" to inherit something, but I didn't get the feeling that was why she mentioned it.



I think she was genuinely mentioning what she remembered and being surprised that he did'nt have a will by 4/21.



sad





[Edited 4/27/17 12:40pm]


I agree. In the video she says she asked Prince (in reference to a will), "what do you want?...I need you to write down exactly what you want", or something to this effect. To me, this says that while she clearly wanted something in place for her and her son, she was also leaving the details entirely up to him, and taking a 'hands-off' approach. This is what I believe, anyway. I don't believe she was a gold digger. I mean, hello, if that was the case she could've really taken him to the cleaners, and she didn't.

--It means she is not that smart.
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Reply #18 posted 04/27/17 3:58pm

TrivialPursuit

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laurarichardson said:


I am sorry no one should take anything Londell has said seriously. He could have none about a will and just did not say anything and if Orince got rid of after the divorce it would not matter anyway.


That's your opinion, not the truth. You, nor I (which I'm already aware of), have no idea what he and Londell discussed or talked about. Prince spoke well of him for a very long time. So...there's that.

And for the record, I'm not one of those "where's the will?!" types. I just found Mayte's note about a will interesting in the AP interview. A lot of the will talk had been dying down in recent weeks.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #19 posted 04/27/17 4:55pm

moonsister

laurarichardson said:

TrivialPursuit said:

Here's the bigger question: If Prince was telling the truth, and there was a will in 1996 or 1997, who was his lawyer at the time? Would that person not know? I mean, a person with Prince's type of assets doesn't just type up something in Word, and get it notarized by a Notary Public.

Ultimately, Londell said he could never get Prince to draw one up. Out of sight, out of mind. Makes me wonder if he was lying to Mayte just to ignore it.


I am sorry no one should take anything Londell has said seriously. He could have none about a will and just did not say anything and if Orince got rid of after the divorce it would not matter anyway.


Either drink or type, but not both. biggrin
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Reply #20 posted 04/27/17 5:16pm

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Property Left to a Former Spouse

In most states, if someone gets divorced after making a will, any gifts that the will makes to the former spouse are automatically revoked. For example, California law (Probate Code § 6122) states that:

“Unless the will expressly provides otherwise, if after executing a will the testator's marriage is dissolved or annulled, the dissolution or annulment revokes … any disposition or appointment of property made by the will to the former spouse.”

If a gift to a former spouse is revoked by state law, who gets the property? The property passes as though the former spouse had died before the will-maker. So if the will names an alternate (contingent) beneficiary for that gift, that person inherits. If no alternate beneficiary is named, but the will names a “residuary beneficiary,” then that beneficiary inherits. If the will doesn’t name a residuary beneficiary, the property passes under state law, as if there were no will, to the closest surviving relatives.

For example, say that while Maria and Ernest are married, they make simple wills, leaving all their property to each other and naming their young daughter as the alternate beneficiary. Later, they divorce. The provisions in their wills leaving property to each other are void; if one dies before making a new will, everything will go to their daughter.

In some states, gifts to relatives of the former spouse are also revoked by divorce. (For example, see Ariz. Rev. Stat. § 14-2804.). If your state has such a law and, for example, a will leaves property to a former spouse’s child, divorce would revoke the gift to the child.

If a gift to a former spouse is voided by divorce, the rest of the will is not affected; all the terms are still valid.

The Former Spouse Is Named as Executor

Divorce usually also revokes the appointment of a former spouse to serve as executor of the will or trustee of a trust. The alternate executor, if one was named in the will, would serve instead. If the will didn’t name an alternate executor, the probate court would appoint someone, following the preferences set out in state law.

http://www.alllaw.com/articles/nolo/wills-trusts/how-divorce-affect-will.html



Divorce and Wills

If you get divorced after you write your last will, your ex-spouse is automatically removed from your last will. However, you should probably not rely on this and should rewrite your last will to reflect your changed family and any new arrangements you want to put into effect. If you don't do this, your ex-spouse may contest the last will and your estate will bear the cost of defending against this challenge.

https://www.legalzoom.com/knowledge/last-will/topic/marriage-divorce-wills




Although a divorce may not automatically change a beneficiary designation with respect to life insurance policies and retirement accounts, divorce will alter your Will. The law recognizes that after a divorce, most people do not want to leave their former spouse any of their assets by Will. Thus, the law currently states that a divorce will effectively “revoke any disposition or appointment of property made by the will to the former spouse.” At your death, and absent any provision to the contrary, any property designated in your will that is supposed to pass to your former spouse will instead pass on as if the former spouse failed to survive you.

http://www.divorcelawmonitor.com/2009/07/articles/divorce-process/does-your-ex-spouse-inherit-your-estate-if-you-unexpectedly-die/


Wills. Under Minnesota Law, upon divorce, your Will is applied as if your ex-spouse predeceased you (assuming you have not already updated your Will). Therefore, your property would bypass your ex-spouse and go straight to your contingent beneficiaries.

http://www.mnprobateestate.com/article/estate-planning-and-divorce

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Reply #21 posted 04/27/17 5:59pm

precioux

morningsong said:

Property Left to a Former Spouse


In most states, if someone gets divorced after making a will, any gifts that the will makes to the former spouse are automatically revoked. For example, California law (Probate Code § 6122) states that:


“Unless the will expressly provides otherwise, if after executing a will the testator's marriage is dissolved or annulled, the dissolution or annulment revokes … any disposition or appointment of property made by the will to the former spouse.”


If a gift to a former spouse is revoked by state law, who gets the property? The property passes as though the former spouse had died before the will-maker. So if the will names an alternate (contingent) beneficiary for that gift, that person inherits. If no alternate beneficiary is named, but the will names a “residuary beneficiary,” then that beneficiary inherits. If the will doesn’t name a residuary beneficiary, the property passes under state law, as if there were no will, to the closest surviving relatives.


For example, say that while Maria and Ernest are married, they make simple wills, leaving all their property to each other and naming their young daughter as the alternate beneficiary. Later, they divorce. The provisions in their wills leaving property to each other are void; if one dies before making a new will, everything will go to their daughter.


In some states, gifts to relatives of the former spouse are also revoked by divorce. (For example, see Ariz. Rev. Stat. § 14-2804.). If your state has such a law and, for example, a will leaves property to a former spouse’s child, divorce would revoke the gift to the child.


If a gift to a former spouse is voided by divorce, the rest of the will is not affected; all the terms are still valid.


The Former Spouse Is Named as Executor


Divorce usually also revokes the appointment of a former spouse to serve as executor of the will or trustee of a trust. The alternate executor, if one was named in the will, would serve instead. If the will didn’t name an alternate executor, the probate court would appoint someone, following the preferences set out in state law.

http://www.alllaw.com/articles/nolo/wills-trusts/how-divorce-affect-will.html




Divorce and Wills


If you get divorced after you write your last will, your ex-spouse is automatically removed from your last will. However, you should probably not rely on this and should rewrite your last will to reflect your changed family and any new arrangements you want to put into effect. If you don't do this, your ex-spouse may contest the last will and your estate will bear the cost of defending against this challenge.

https://www.legalzoom.com/knowledge/last-will/topic/marriage-divorce-wills




Although a divorce may not automatically change a beneficiary designation with respect to life insurance policies and retirement accounts, divorce will alter your Will. The law recognizes that after a divorce, most people do not want to leave their former spouse any of their assets by Will. Thus, the law currently states that a divorce will effectively “revoke any disposition or appointment of property made by the will to the former spouse.” At your death, and absent any provision to the contrary, any property designated in your will that is supposed to pass to your former spouse will instead pass on as if the former spouse failed to survive you.

http://www.divorcelawmonitor.com/2009/07/articles/divorce-process/does-your-ex-spouse-inherit-your-estate-if-you-unexpectedly-die/


Wills. Under Minnesota Law, upon divorce, your Will is applied as if your ex-spouse predeceased you (assuming you have not already updated your Will). Therefore, your property would bypass your ex-spouse and go straight to your contingent beneficiaries.

http://www.mnprobateestate.com/article/estate-planning-and-divorce









Any questions laytonian????? Hmmm...looks like your "legal advice" was in fact INCORRECT. Furthermore, it is basically my reply #7, where I revisited my statement and clarified that in M1 or M2's case, they are "revoked" as beneficiaries, and I did not reiterate that the will was "null &void". I clarified myself. Like I said, I'll take ISLIJAG's word over yours any day. Take a seat.
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Reply #22 posted 04/27/17 6:44pm

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moonsister said:

laurarichardson said:


I am sorry no one should take anything Londell has said seriously. He could have none about a will and just did not say anything and if Orince got rid of after the divorce it would not matter anyway.


Either drink or type, but not both. biggrin

-/Sigh some of us are on the train coming from a job. Auto correct is screwed up but if anyone believes anything Londell is saying they need to let me sell them the Brooklyn bridge.
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Reply #23 posted 04/27/17 10:12pm

Bluu

TrivialPursuit said:

In an AP video interview, she said she asked Prince about a will. They had a child coming and that should something happen, she didn't want to be left there trying to muddle through and untangle everything. She said he's protective of his music, so it's odd to her that no will was found. She doesn't know what happened to the will he said he had. She never saw it, if it existed back then.



Prince was also aware, but hadn't said anything about the fact, that Mayte was writing a book. She said she was before he died. But she also said he knew she'd never lie or write some trashy tell-all about their relationship.

I've been saying exactly the same thing ever since the media first announced there was no will (actually, saying he did not leave one, which I still don't believe). It was fairly obvious P. understood the importance of having a will. I figured Mayte could confirm if he had one as he would have been advised to update it upon getting married and a child on the way.

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Reply #24 posted 04/28/17 4:03am

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Maybe he got rid of the will when he got rid of HER. mad

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Reply #25 posted 04/28/17 5:19am

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laurarichardson said:

alandail said:

what do you mean? The book is out.

The book was announced back in March of last year. There was a press release and then it vanished right around the time the stuff that she tried to auction off was pulled.

Does she really think a private person like Prince would be okay with what she is doing? She has a right to do it and should just be honest about it and stop implying that he would be okay with her sharing personal stuff with the world for money.

Sheila E. released her book and so did Dez Dickerson before he passed....

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Reply #26 posted 04/28/17 5:39am

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Maybe he had a will when he was married and planned on having children. Later when it was only him he perhaps didn't see the point.
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Reply #27 posted 04/28/17 6:08am

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paisleypark4 said:



laurarichardson said:




alandail said:



what do you mean? The book is out.



The book was announced back in March of last year. There was a press release and then it vanished right around the time the stuff that she tried to auction off was pulled.



Does she really think a private person like Prince would be okay with what she is doing? She has a right to do it and should just be honest about it and stop implying that he would be okay with her sharing personal stuff with the world for money.





Sheila E. released her book and so did Dez Dickerson before he passed....


Have you read Sheila E's book. Prince takes up 15 pages and there is nothing salacious in it. Sheila E's book is about her life not Prince's. Same with Dez.
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Reply #28 posted 04/28/17 10:54am

precioux

laurarichardson said:

paisleypark4 said:

Sheila E. released her book and so did Dez Dickerson before he passed....

Have you read Sheila E's book. Prince takes up 15 pages and there is nothing salacious in it. Sheila E's book is about her life not Prince's. Same with Dez.

Not being facetious here...but isn't Sheila E. coming out with a new book?

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Reply #29 posted 04/28/17 10:55am

precioux

paulludvig said:

Maybe he had a will when he was married and planned on having children. Later when it was only him he perhaps didn't see the point.

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My thoughts exactly

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