That clip sounds great, it also makes me excited for the potential upgrade in sound quality for the Syracuse show as well

It’s missing the unedited versions of Take Me With U, The Beautiful Ones, and Darlin Nikki. They could have dumped all the single edits and put them on that CD.

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Sifi said:

SanDiegoFunkDaddy said:

It’s missing the unedited versions of Take Me With U, The Beautiful Ones, and Darlin Nikki. They could have dumped all the single edits and put them on that CD.

and alt versions of When does cry (with bassline) I would die for you (alt) purple rain with out strings

the countless other versions of computer blue

Sifi said:

Hi there, I am getting strong signals that Warner is definitely listening to the comments posted here and elsewhere online. They ARE 100% aware of the expectations based on previous statements. I am convinced they are working hard getting the First Avenue 1983 show up to standards for release.

Unfortunately, it won’t be in time for the announced June 23rd release, but that was the original plan.

It's not someone’s deliberate choice or fault, it's just a matter of how things are, production-wise.

[Snip - luv4u]

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Thanks, Sifi.
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I can understand that remastering the First Avenue show takes longer than predicted.
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What I absolutely cannot understand though is how come such an important release as this Purple Rain Deluxe set come out with a DVD in 2017 and not with a BluRay! I know that the Syracuse show wasn't recorded in HD, but I'm dreading to see and hear a PAL DVD with the 4% speed up. Even if the soundtrack is pitchshifted back to normal key, the tempo would still be 4% faster and these artifacts make me practically unable to enjoy the music. (If it comes out only on NTSC, then picture quality will suffer a bit.)
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C'mon, Warners, it's 2017. We need a BluRay. Don't go so cheap on this one!
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And don't even get me started on not having 24bit/96kHz versions included in the set. That is standard practice these days for a lot of deluxe editions, such as Steve Wilson's Jethro Tull and other remixes.
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Oh yeah, and why on Earth did they have to mess with the artwork and rotate the main photo?
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[Edited 4/29/17 2:59am]

Thanks Sifi for sharing that great sample!

MiceElfAgin said:

Sifi said:

Hi there, I am getting strong signals that Warner is definitely listening to the comments posted here and elsewhere online. They ARE 100% aware of the expectations based on previous statements. I am convinced they are working hard getting the First Avenue 1983 show up to standards for release.

Unfortunately, it won’t be in time for the announced June 23rd release, but that was the original plan.

It's not someone’s deliberate choice or fault, it's just a matter of how things are, production-wise.

[Snip - luv4u]

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Thanks, Sifi.
.
I can understand that remastering the First Avenue show takes longer than predicted.
.
What I absolutely cannot understand though is how come such an important release as this Purple Rain Deluxe set come out with a DVD in 2017 and not with a BluRay! I know that the Syracuse show wasn't recorded in HD, but I'm dreading to see and hear a PAL DVD with the 4% speed up. Even if the soundtrack is pitchshifted back to normal key, the tempo would still be 4% faster and these artifacts make me practically unable to enjoy the music. (If it comes out only on NTSC, then picture quality will suffer a bit.)
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C'mon, Warners, it's 2017. We need a BluRay. Don't go so cheap on this one!
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And don't even get me started on not having 24bit/96kHz versions included in the set. That is standard practice these days for a lot of deluxe editions, such as Steve Wilson's Jethro Tull and other remixes.
.

I don't have any love for Blueray. It makes films look like video. It's discomfiting! Honestly, just give it to us in high quality MP4 and it will be cool!

JudasLChrist said:

MiceElfAgin said:

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Thanks, Sifi.
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I can understand that remastering the First Avenue show takes longer than predicted.
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What I absolutely cannot understand though is how come such an important release as this Purple Rain Deluxe set come out with a DVD in 2017 and not with a BluRay! I know that the Syracuse show wasn't recorded in HD, but I'm dreading to see and hear a PAL DVD with the 4% speed up. Even if the soundtrack is pitchshifted back to normal key, the tempo would still be 4% faster and these artifacts make me practically unable to enjoy the music. (If it comes out only on NTSC, then picture quality will suffer a bit.)
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C'mon, Warners, it's 2017. We need a BluRay. Don't go so cheap on this one!
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And don't even get me started on not having 24bit/96kHz versions included in the set. That is standard practice these days for a lot of deluxe editions, such as Steve Wilson's Jethro Tull and other remixes.
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I don't have any love for Blueray. It makes films look like video.

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If it does on certain releases, then that's a mastering issue – not the characteristics of the BluRay format itself.
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And even with that slight artifact, would you really rather go for a PAL DVD that plays in the wrong key and with wrong tempo? I know I wouldn't.
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I pray 4 a SUPERDELUXE EDITION a la u2 Achtung Baby or Pink Floyd Immersion with 1st Av 83. concert and the demo versions/alternate takes of the PURPLE RAIN ALBUM + goodies/memoralia....WB can do that.....Purple rain & Prince Legacy deserve this kind of release!

Pleaz Sifi....delive this INFO to WB....thanx in advance

bfunk said:

Sifi said:

Hi there, I am getting strong signals that Warner is definitely listening to the comments posted here and elsewhere online. They ARE 100% aware of the expectations based on previous statements. I am convinced they are working hard getting the First Avenue 1983 show up to standards for release.

Unfortunately, it won’t be in time for the announced June 23rd release, but that was the original plan.

It's not someone’s deliberate choice or fault, it's just a matter of how things are, production-wise.

I am confident to say though, that our patience will be rewarded BIG TIME, based on this sample of Let’s Go Crazy https://we.tl/5lSgbuyLOy I cranked up the volume and was amazed!

OMFG, thank u so much.

Thank u 2 Times SIFI

Sifi said:

Maybe, simply to avoid more delays, WB decided to do 2 different releases, with the Avenue Show released later this years in a CD/DVD combo.

This would justify the low prices of the Purple Rain Anniversary Editions, the fact that we now have "Electric Intercourse (Studio Version)" and the fact that in the original press release there was the line "2 unreleased albums" ("From The Archive" and "Avenue Show").

We'll see it.

SanDiegoFunkDaddy said:

Sifi said:

Hi there, I am getting strong signals that Warner is definitely listening to the comments posted here and elsewhere online. They ARE 100% aware of the expectations based on previous statements. I am convinced they are working hard getting the First Avenue 1983 show up to standards for release.

Unfortunately, it won’t be in time for the announced June 23rd release, but that was the original plan.

It's not someone’s deliberate choice or fault, it's just a matter of how things are, production-wise.

I am confident to say though, that our patience will be rewarded BIG TIME, based on this sample of Let’s Go Crazy https://we.tl/5lSgbuyLOy I cranked up the volume and was amazed!

Amazing sample thank you!

The sound as expected is perfect - after all it was recorded via a 24 track mobile studio truck!

Regardless of how clean WB can get the footage they need to release this - besides the Small Club aftershow this is the holy grail of Prince bootlegs!

JudasLChrist said:

MiceElfAgin said:

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Thanks, Sifi.
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I can understand that remastering the First Avenue show takes longer than predicted.
.
What I absolutely cannot understand though is how come such an important release as this Purple Rain Deluxe set come out with a DVD in 2017 and not with a BluRay! I know that the Syracuse show wasn't recorded in HD, but I'm dreading to see and hear a PAL DVD with the 4% speed up. Even if the soundtrack is pitchshifted back to normal key, the tempo would still be 4% faster and these artifacts make me practically unable to enjoy the music. (If it comes out only on NTSC, then picture quality will suffer a bit.)
.
C'mon, Warners, it's 2017. We need a BluRay. Don't go so cheap on this one!
.
And don't even get me started on not having 24bit/96kHz versions included in the set. That is standard practice these days for a lot of deluxe editions, such as Steve Wilson's Jethro Tull and other remixes.
.

I don't have any love for Blueray. It makes films look like video. It's discomfiting! Honestly, just give it to us in high quality MP4 and it will be cool!

That's just not true, Blu-Ray is the physical format most able to reproduce films with its suport for 24fps, which matches movie format. For an NTSC DVD you get jerky motion due to the 3:2 pulldown in order for the framerate to match over a 2 second period, and with PAL they just double the frames up and play it back resulting in a 4% speed up of video and the assosciated pitch shift in the audio which comes from it playing faster. Both solutions are pretty nasty really.

TheEnglishGent said:

Se7en said:

Is there such a thing as remastering video tape (VHS)? I didn't think there was, at least not the extent of transferring it to HD/Blu-Ray.

There is if there is better source material than a VHS.

I suspect they don't have the original tape thiese morons.

Ptherwise, it would have been remastered in HD and released on blu ray at 25 $ alone. And this is pretty much the price of the entire set (!). So we can expect a very weak video material, just like the dvd transfert of THE HITS, DIAMONDS AND PEARLS. It took monts and a lot of money to remasterise 2 hours movie.

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Remember the BAD 25 flop. MAinly because of the poor video quality of the live included. Worst than a VHS, frankly. Sony said to calm down fans, that it was remastered by the NASA, and they did as much as they could do. The truth is that they didn't have the original tapes. The ydon't know where they are, and don't want to spend money on it.

BAD 25 flopped so much, Sony didn't want to release DANGEROUS 25 last year.

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This is what will happen with this PURPLE RAIN release, believe me.

[Edited 4/29/17 3:37am]

That clip of Let's Go Crazy sounds incredible!

RODSERLING said:

I suspect they don't have the original tape thiese morons.

Ptherwise, it would have been remastered in HD and released on blu ray at 25 $ alone. And this is pretty much the price of the entire set (!). So we can expect a very weak video material, just like the dvd transfert of THE HITS, DIAMONDS AND PEARLS. It took monts and a lot of money to remasterise 2 hours movie.

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Remember the BAD 25 flop. MAinly because of the poor video quality of the live included. Worst than a VHS, frankly. Sony said to calm down fans, that it was remastered by the NASA, and they did as much as they could do. The truth is that they didn't have the original tapes. The ydon't know where they are, and don't want to spend money on it.

BAD 25 flopped so much, Sony didn't want to release DANGEROUS 25 last year.

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This is what will happen with this PURPLE RAIN release, believe me.

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1. They're not morons for not owning a 30 year old tape that was probaly the property of Prince, who let his vault rot.
2. Remastering a VHS to HD? Ha!

3. "This is what will happen"? We know what's happening. No need for a facile prediction.

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Hi.

Not sure if this was already posted.

JBHi-Fi for the AU/NZ contingent:

Single vinyl:

https://www.jbhifi.com.au/music/Whats-Hot/rock-pop/purple-rain-vinyl-remastered/442718/

Deluxe:

https://www.jbhifi.com.au/music/browse/rock-pop/purple-rain-deluxe-edition/442710/

Super Deluxe:

https://www.jbhifi.com.au/music/browse/rock-pop/purple-rain-superdeluxe-expanded-edition/442714/

bluegangsta said:

RODSERLING said:

I suspect they don't have the original tape thiese morons.

Ptherwise, it would have been remastered in HD and released on blu ray at 25 $ alone. And this is pretty much the price of the entire set (!). So we can expect a very weak video material, just like the dvd transfert of THE HITS, DIAMONDS AND PEARLS. It took monts and a lot of money to remasterise 2 hours movie.

.

Remember the BAD 25 flop. MAinly because of the poor video quality of the live included. Worst than a VHS, frankly. Sony said to calm down fans, that it was remastered by the NASA, and they did as much as they could do. The truth is that they didn't have the original tapes. The ydon't know where they are, and don't want to spend money on it.

BAD 25 flopped so much, Sony didn't want to release DANGEROUS 25 last year.

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This is what will happen with this PURPLE RAIN release, believe me.

[Edited 4/29/17 3:37am]

1. They're not morons for owning a 30 year old tae that was probaly the property of Prince, who let his vault rot.
2. Remastering a VHS to HD? Ha!

3. "This is what will happen"? We know what's happening. No need for a facile prediction.

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Jeez, guys! Prince did not let his vault "rot". You (or me) don't even know if the video master for this show was stored at Paisley or perhaps at Warners.

Also: stop talking about "remastering from VHS". Just because it first came out on VHS, that doesn't mean it was recorded on VHS – quite obviously it wasn't! VHS is not a professional format (actually it was the worst of the consumer video formats too) therefore it wasn't ever used for professional recording. Probably it was recorded on U-matic (BVU) or Beta.

Also, to confirm: this is the maximum for this release? 2xCD=1DVD? No bluray editions and no second concert?

If I lay down the AU$80 I'm not going to be confronted wuth a SuperMegaDeluxe or some crap in a couple of months?

SomeSoldier said:

What are the chances of a super deluxe set, including the First Avenue show and the vinyl being released at a later date? I wouldn't have any problems with that, as long as they annnounce it before the others are released!

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Announcing it before these are released? I think that would surely result in WB firing its entire marketing department!

Don't count on it.

I find it a little odd that the two disc edition has the vault tracks as disc 2 rather than the remixes / edit.

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MiceElfAgin said:

MiceElfAgin said:

jaypotton said:

MiceElfAgin said:

stop talking about "remastering from VHS". Just because it first came out on VHS, that doesn't mean it was recorded on VHS – quite obviously it wasn't! VHS is not a professional format (actually it was the worst of the consumer video formats too) therefore it wasn't ever used for professional recording. Probably it was recorded on U-matic (BVU) or Beta.

I already said this on bottom of page 17 but clearly nobody reads so you need to repeat!

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I beg your pardon for not reading back dozens of pages every time before I reply to someone! (Especially when there are lunatics around who just have to produce 300 posts daily... Not referring to you.)

jaypotton said:

MiceElfAgin said:

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Jeez, guys! Prince did not let his vault "rot". You (or me) don't even know if the video master for this show was stored at Paisley or perhaps at Warners.

Also: stop talking about "remastering from VHS". Just because it first came out on VHS, that doesn't mean it was recorded on VHS – quite obviously it wasn't! VHS is not a professional format (actually it was the worst of the consumer video formats too) therefore it wasn't ever used for professional recording. Probably it was recorded on U-matic (BVU) or Beta.

1. Actually WE all actually KNOW nothing when it comes to the vault. None of us have seen it or been in it. The one thing we do know is that back in the 90s HM Buff (pretty sure it was him) said in an interview that the vault was in a bad way and that many of the tapes were deteriorating and needed to be baked and also digitised but that Prince wasn't that interested (at the time). 2. Professional video formats...I already said this on bottom of page 17 but clearly nobody reads so you need to repeat!

We've had confirmation from engineers that the environmental control in the vault was broken down for an extended period.

You can tell from the snippet that upscaling the video (whatever format...) would be next to useless. The only benifit for a Blu Ray release would be lossless sound.