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Reply #30 posted 04/25/17 4:28pm

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Prince's outifts during the Lovesexy era never cease to amaze me

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fourletterwords said:

Digging a bit deeper One can also make a case for: the "about-face" he made with regard to the merits of hip hop between 1987-1991, and the subsequent sort of disavowal in the early 2000s. I remember the We Are the World refusal to be a pretty huge WTF from the media perspective Returning to extreme androgyny in the Gold era after normalizing his image greatly in the late 80s-D&P... odd that he was most androgynous as a "married man"... Literally doing every interview for several years with Larry G by his side almost answering questions in his stead (the Larry King interview comes to MInd) Extremely tense appearance on TRL in 99 when he was trying to "promote" Rave... have not seen him quite as abrasive/passive aggressive as that Whispering his Answers to Mayte with the veiled face in British TV The extreme right turn in '04 becoming Mr Showbiz to promote Musicology (Leno appearance with Mel Gibson)... the only time in his career he appeared unauthentic to me... [Edited 4/25/17 10:24am]

Normalizing his image in the late 80's?

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Reply #31 posted 04/25/17 4:40pm

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The question misses the entire point of his 'career'.
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Reply #32 posted 04/25/17 4:54pm

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bobgeorge77 said:

I agree with all that is mentioned above, especially the name change. However, the first thing that came to mind was P sucking on a lollipop 🍭 as they were celebrating the anniversary of "we are the world" and then offering it to Quincy jones!! Wtf??? But funny as hell!!

One of my favorites ^^^

And:

-The cover of Lovesexy (only Prince could pull that off and I loved him for that )

-The suspender outfit with black trunks on Gansgta Glam Video

-The Tora Tora interview

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Reply #33 posted 04/25/17 4:56pm

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Seriously the WTF moment for me where my friends were looking at me to explain my boy was the Lovesexy album cover and the Lovesexy tour book. P didn't give a duck.
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Reply #34 posted 04/25/17 5:03pm

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I remember when I first saw him with the huge fro on SNL back in 2014 (I hadn't been paying attention enough to him during that time to know he'd been growing it out since 2012), it caught me off-guard.

That said, the Love Symbol period is the one that will go down as the most baffling moment to those not well versed as to why he did it.

lol so I'm not the only one?

I hadn't seen him in awhile either, so when the passport photo popped up on the local morning tv talk show, I was like... "Whaaat the hell...?" And then I died laughing because that the most ass pic looked like something Prince would do. Cause, you know, a normal passport pic will not do, a brotha gotta look so pretty. Prince being extra. One of the anchors just about fell out of her chair laughing at that thing. Not in an unkind way, in a "OMG, he WOULD do that." kind of way.

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Reply #35 posted 04/25/17 5:27pm

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For me, Exhibit A is...

And the lead single from Prince's 3 album release Emancipation is...!!!!!


Betcha By Golly Wow?????

Defu...??



lol
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Reply #36 posted 04/25/17 5:28pm

bobgeorge77

So many great ones mentioned! His first wtf moment that I can think of is his nonverbal interview during his first American Bandstand performance! Fun to look back on. eek
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Reply #37 posted 04/25/17 5:55pm

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Purple and Gold

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Reply #38 posted 04/25/17 5:56pm

luvgirl

kaine said:

Seriously the WTF moment for me where my friends were looking at me to explain my boy was the Lovesexy album cover and the Lovesexy tour book. P didn't give a duck.


Yea, still can't explain that one to my teenage son. I think he looks at me different now... Gives me a lot of side eye since becoming aware of it... lol
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Reply #39 posted 04/25/17 6:00pm

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Reply #40 posted 04/25/17 6:04pm

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Well, it did allow David Allen Grier on the FOX television show In Living Colour to make jokes about it for a couple of episodes. In one of them he played a homeless man in a restaurant yelling out every thirty seconds or so 'Prince has got a hairy butt!'.

MMJas said:

His "bare" buttocks on the live show must have been quite a WTF moment for some viewers. lol

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Reply #41 posted 04/25/17 6:07pm

kmama07

soladeo1 said:

For me, Exhibit A is...

And the lead single from Prince's 3 album release Emancipation is...!!!!!


Betcha By Golly Wow?????

Defu...??

OMG...totally this (and Larry Graham)!
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Reply #42 posted 04/25/17 6:08pm

kingricefan

I thought that his 'people' or even possibly himself sent out emails to news stations saying things like 'Prince is dead.' and then a couple of hours later they sent out an official announcement about the name change?

TheEnglishGent said:

The name change is a clear winner I should think. Just think about hearing the announcement without any of the context or explanations. What was our initial reaction?

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Reply #43 posted 04/25/17 6:22pm

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benni said:


haha not a WTF, but I do have that other photo from the session in my bedroom.

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Reply #44 posted 04/25/17 6:32pm

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Stauros. Totally insane. Really tested me.
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Reply #45 posted 04/25/17 6:34pm

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Professionally, I think the biggest WTF moment, and the one that defines his resistance to the system was the release of ATWIAD as the follow up to PR.

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Reply #46 posted 04/25/17 7:45pm

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releasing ATWIAD only a few weeks after the Purple Rain tour ended.In fact,the 'Purple Rain' album was still on the charts! He didn't leave much of a gap between the two eras,lol
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Reply #47 posted 04/25/17 8:32pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

MMJas said:

His "bare" buttocks on the live show must have been quite a WTF moment for some viewers. lol


Except they weren't bare at all. The designer recently stated how it was flesh colored translucent fabric that covered his butt. People thought they saw his ass, but they didn't.

And where are those pants on display at Paisley?! Where is the damn Diamonds and Pearls room?! LOL Pulll them muthuafukkas out.

By the way, y'all think he farted when he was on MTV and turned around like that? Like, I wonder if he had some beans & rice before hand, with a nice spinach salad, and got all robust and gassy, then just cracked one off during "Gett Off".

This ^ made me literally laugh out loud.

Robust and gassy.

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Reply #48 posted 04/25/17 8:33pm

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fourletterwords said:

Stauros. Totally insane. Really tested me.


OMG, Let me tell you that whole TRC period with the preaching, dictatorial dogma, "theocratic order" chants, and overall know-it-all-ism in his interviews and his lyrics - it had me boiling. I really felt a disconnect from a man and a musical hero that I'd connected to from very early on. I just didn't know him anymore. I remember him on the Today show at some point (I forget the era or period), and he talked about entropy, like he'd just learned a new word. It was like a kid who learned French in an ELO song, and they go around trying to impress everyone with their newfound vocabulary. It was just so odd.

The Graham Effect was strong with this one and the stauros bullshit. No one going to Paisley Park to watch a show wants to hear about an upright stake or pole, or that you only had one birthday or anything else he spouted.

It wasn't as much of a WTF moment for me, as it was "Who da fuq is this asshole?!" Now whether I was referencing Graham or Prince is up for you to decide. You may or may not be right on either guess. I was more mad at what he was saying, not who he was as a musician.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #49 posted 04/25/17 8:47pm

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lol lol

TrivialPursuit said:

fourletterwords said:

Stauros. Totally insane. Really tested me.


OMG, Let me tell you that whole TRC period with the preaching, dictatorial dogma, "theocratic order" chants, and overall know-it-all-ism in his interviews and his lyrics - it had me boiling. I really felt a disconnect from a man and a musical hero that I'd connected to from very early on. I just didn't know him anymore. I remember him on the Today show at some point (I forget the era or period), and he talked about entropy, like he'd just learned a new word. It was like a kid who learned French in an ELO song, and they go around trying to impress everyone with their newfound vocabulary. It was just so odd.

The Graham Effect was strong with this one and the stauros bullshit. No one going to Paisley Park to watch a show wants to hear about an upright stake or pole, or that you only had one birthday or anything else he spouted.

It wasn't as much of a WTF moment for me, as it was "Who da fuq is this asshole?!" Now whether I was referencing Graham or Prince is up for you to decide. You may or may not be right on either guess. I was more mad at what he was saying, not who he was as a musician.

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Reply #50 posted 04/25/17 9:44pm

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TrivialPursuit said:



fourletterwords said:


Stauros. Totally insane. Really tested me.


OMG, Let me tell you that whole TRC period with the preaching, dictatorial dogma, "theocratic order" chants, and overall know-it-all-ism in his interviews and his lyrics - it had me boiling. I really felt a disconnect from a man and a musical hero that I'd connected to from very early on. I just didn't know him anymore. I remember him on the Today show at some point (I forget the era or period), and he talked about entropy, like he'd just learned a new word. It was like a kid who learned French in an ELO song, and they go around trying to impress everyone with their newfound vocabulary. It was just so odd.

The Graham Effect was strong with this one and the stauros bullshit. No one going to Paisley Park to watch a show wants to hear about an upright stake or pole, or that you only had one birthday or anything else he spouted.

It wasn't as much of a WTF moment for me, as it was "Who da fuq is this asshole?!" Now whether I was referencing Graham or Prince is up for you to decide. You may or may not be right on either guess. I was more mad at what he was saying, not who he was as a musician.




On some level I feel he and we as fans really lucked out that he was VERY underground during this era. When Dylan started giving fire and brimstone sermons from the stage he was still basically an international superstar/top seller, but the phase (pretty much touches the JW PRN stage) haunted Dylan for decades.

The P that existed before and after, for all of his quirks, oozed empathy, compassion and humanity. But between 99-03, no. He must really have been hurting during this time ...
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Reply #51 posted 04/25/17 9:59pm

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fourletterwords said:

The P that existed before and after, for all of his quirks, oozed empathy, compassion and humanity. But between 99-03, no. He must really have been hurting during this time ...


I don't think he was hurting post-1999, despite the loss of the children. It is sorta very Prince that he ignores the problem by immersing himself into something else to distract him. This time, it was the JW faith. Larry saw an opportunity and swooped right in to get another tither to the Kingdom Hall.

I remember his anti-gay comment around the 3121 time (I think), and he got a lot of backlash for that. Enough to the point that he clarified his comments, and (to me) glazed over it. Despite Prince talking about gay folks in his music earlier on, and playing with sexuality - at some point I felt like "I'm a Prince fan, and I'm a gay man. But I'm not a gay Prince fan." Again, the Rave/TRC era started that with the disconnect.

Again, he was a dog with a new bone, and he wanted everyone to know it.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #52 posted 04/25/17 11:04pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

fourletterwords said:

Stauros. Totally insane. Really tested me.


OMG, Let me tell you that whole TRC period with the preaching, dictatorial dogma, "theocratic order" chants, and overall know-it-all-ism in his interviews and his lyrics - it had me boiling. I really felt a disconnect from a man and a musical hero that I'd connected to from very early on. I just didn't know him anymore. I remember him on the Today show at some point (I forget the era or period), and he talked about entropy, like he'd just learned a new word. It was like a kid who learned French in an ELO song, and they go around trying to impress everyone with their newfound vocabulary. It was just so odd.

The Graham Effect was strong with this one and the stauros bullshit. No one going to Paisley Park to watch a show wants to hear about an upright stake or pole, or that you only had one birthday or anything else he spouted.

It wasn't as much of a WTF moment for me, as it was "Who da fuq is this asshole?!" Now whether I was referencing Graham or Prince is up for you to decide. You may or may not be right on either guess. I was more mad at what he was saying, not who he was as a musician.

Agreed....Philadelphia Academy of Music Show....thought he would never shut up...on & on he went..adding in & telling us to go watch the movie " Bamboozled" & Jimi Hendrix family is getting robbed...blah blah blah....actually it stopped the fun and momentum....he did tell one joke he was blabbing on about black tv shows and at that time the UPN network was in full swing with shows so Prince asked the crowd...." Do you know what UPN stands for???" No one had a answer....Prince said " UPN is the U pick a nigga network"....good one....whole place had a good laugh at least.

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Reply #53 posted 04/26/17 12:34am

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TrivialPursuit said:



fourletterwords said:


The P that existed before and after, for all of his quirks, oozed empathy, compassion and humanity. But between 99-03, no. He must really have been hurting during this time ...


I don't think he was hurting post-1999, despite the loss of the children. It is sorta very Prince that he ignores the problem by immersing himself into something else to distract him. This time, it was the JW faith. Larry saw an opportunity and swooped right in to get another tither to the Kingdom Hall.

I remember his anti-gay comment around the 3121 time (I think), and he got a lot of backlash for that. Enough to the point that he clarified his comments, and (to me) glazed over it. Despite Prince talking about gay folks in his music earlier on, and playing with sexuality - at some point I felt like "I'm a Prince fan, and I'm a gay man. But I'm not a gay Prince fan." Again, the Rave/TRC era started that with the disconnect.

Again, he was a dog with a new bone, and he wanted everyone to know it.




The 2006 comments were also super-troubling. Wendy was quoting as saying "he used to like the gay element in his band" when he had verbally attacked her sexuality in/around the early 00's...

I believe P always astutely knew a hint of mysterious orientation was a big seller in the post Bowie/Stones music world and played it to the hilt to get on the map. That is not to say there wasn't some grain of truth to it all (if so, later completely disavowed)...

I am constantly reminded of the 2010 BET award speech. He was so emotional and resigned-seeming, speaking of wild younger years and past mistakes ... it of course remains unclear exactly to what he was referring. That for me was the first public crack in the armor.
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Reply #54 posted 04/26/17 2:06am

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TrivialPursuit said:

MMJas said:

His "bare" buttocks on the live show must have been quite a WTF moment for some viewers. lol


Except they weren't bare at all. The designer recently stated how it was flesh colored translucent fabric that covered his butt. People thought they saw his ass, but they didn't.

And where are those pants on display at Paisley?! Where is the damn Diamonds and Pearls room?! LOL Pulll them muthuafukkas out.

By the way, y'all think he farted when he was on MTV and turned around like that? Like, I wonder if he had some beans & rice before hand, with a nice spinach salad, and got all robust and gassy, then just cracked one off during "Gett Off".

That's why I put the word "bare" in brackets... wink

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Reply #55 posted 04/26/17 10:10am

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NorthC said:

His entire carreer was one big "wtf" moment. wink



And that is exactly why we are all here nod
(but I wouldn't mind eliminating Larry Graham from the archives)

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Reply #56 posted 04/26/17 11:32am

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Breaking up the Revolution. It was never the same after that. eek

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Reply #57 posted 04/26/17 12:41pm

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soladeo1 said:

For me, Exhibit A is...

And the lead single from Prince's 3 album release Emancipation is...!!!!!


Betcha By Golly Wow?????

Defu...??

That one moment he was hypnotized for years during his career....Lol!
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Reply #58 posted 04/26/17 1:17pm

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Thinking he could sell out arenas playing no Prince hits, but only unreleased new songs and Graham Central Station covers...
That 1995 tour worked for me and other diehards, but for the rest of the audience, it must have been a "wtf" concert...
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Reply #59 posted 04/26/17 2:17pm

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RJOrion said:

#1...having Big Chick carry him onstage either high, drunk, or scared (pick one, or all), at the James Brown show and fucking up left and right, finally tearing down stage props on his way out...right in front of his career rival.. #2...Gameboys simulating dry-humping P underneath and between their legs on national TV #3...the day he died

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That was an impromptu performance. I don't think Prince liked suprises like that, but since MJ called him to stage, you know Prince isn't gonna turn down a challenge! I have seen that footage and I think Prince was exhausted from touring and he was probably a little drunk too. He was still cute, nontheless, LOL lol

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I kinda think that MJ was trying to embarrass Prince, LOL lol tease ohgoon

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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