rogifan said:

RODSERLING said:

You're talking nonsense.

Those 6 tracks will never be released officially in your lifetime. We are now 1 year after P's death, and there is only 1 track officially released - taken from the same source than the bootleg. Such a shame for an artist who recorded hundreds of unreleased tracks, if not thousands.

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Personnaly, I didn't even bother to listen to the DELIVERANCE tracks. I listened to some unreleased bootleg, and I didn't like them. Just my opinion. But objectively, I support this "release" because of the reasons stated above.

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It hurts me to say that, but even MJ's estate was way better handled than Prince's. And god knows that MJ's estate was very badly handled - and still is.

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I think it would have been smart to release last year the P and M tour on CD, the BLACK IS THE NEW BLACK album and the PR Deluxe, in order to maximize interest in Prince for the largest audience possible.

Now, ( I hope to be proved wrong ) the interest is dead. Like with MJ. They waited way too long.

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Who had the authority to release music last year?

PR Deluxe : WB

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P and M tour / BLACK IS THE NEW BLACK : the estate. These albums exist, it doesn't take 10 years to release them.

It would have been a better idea than to release 4EVER.

bubblebath said:

epronk said:

Back to the music. After listening to it a few times, this is brilliant work. It is basically two great songs with Deliverance and the Opera (I Am/Touch Me/Sunrise Sunset/No One Else). As good as Deliverance is, I like the combined track even more. This EP doesn't take you back to a certain period, which is great because it really sounds like something new that he would have released in the future. People need to step away from the drama of it all. For a brief moment, it feels like he is here through his music and his surprises. The dude that released it ain't getting paid because he will be sued and people are already downloading it for free. The Estate is not Prince and has struggled to cash in and Universal, WB, Spotify, etc. are all also facing hurdles. This is all by his design. As long as the fans get the music that he left for us then it is all good.

RODSERLING said:

Great work by RMA to get this EP out in time for Friday which will give everyne a moment

Its a pity the Estate are too busy trying to count their money instead of releasing music

Love Deliverance

Kara said:

rogifan said:

They're in the vault for a reason. Either he didn't think it was good enough to release or it was unfinished and he didn't get back to finishing it or couldn't find other things to go with it. I'm hoping the people brought on board to oversee the vault are ones that worked with him and have an understanding of the music. Maybe there are some things that just need a little finishing salt to be great. I don't want stuff to be released that everyone hears and the first thing they think is wow this sounds unfinished, or worse this sounds awful (because it's an incomplete thought).

I care much less about other people's opinions of his music than I do about hearing Prince's music in it's unadulterated form as he intended it to sound in that moment in time. Incomplete thoughts can be interesting, too. I love hearing demos/alternate versions, hearing the progression of a song, and gaining insight into the creative process. Someone completing his thoughts for him after his death is artistic sacrilege to me.

exactly. besides, who are all these supposed new and young people who are going to be
exposed to all this 'new' prince music and all of a sudden discover the man throught an
archival vault series when they couldn't have cared less about him when he was alive??

any and everything that will be released in future will be for us, hardcore fans.

only re-issues of his warners albums will garner a lot of attention from the general
public and casual fans.

perhaps the first couple of vault releases, if they have enough stellar material, will get a
lot of attention from the press and gain some traction on the charts. but beyond that i'm
curious to see who will be flocking to buy the releases beyond that. even if there are one
or two absolutely brilliant albums a la purple rain or sign o the times still to be released
from the vault, is anyone besides original fans going to bother?

i'd loved to be proven wrong and see prince sell in the millions from his vault releases,
but somehow i doubt that is going to happen.

beyond that i don't give a fuck about what these 'new' people might want to hear since
prince was releasing his last album through peer to peer channels and only a few shops
even stocked it before he died.

so give us what WE want. now that we still got functioning ears and cash to throw at
whomever puts together a decent package.

donnyenglish said:

I would suggest that people if they want to get this do not even wait for iTunes. Because if pressure is put on them and there is validity to the pressure, than this will get pulled, trust me i have seen things vanish because they seem to come out of nowhere.

I was shocked by this news! OMG I love the new songs! Kinda reminds of the LotusFlow3r days! Absolutely Funktastic!~

clairew1975 said:

The estate have filed a lawsuit saying it's an unauthorised release. The video of a FAKE Prince, I mean REALLY!! This was planned and it pisses me off! No integrity whatsoever! This would never have been allowed if Prince was alive, he'd have SHUT IT DOWN!

Get over yourselff

Btw, these tracks are pretty good and seem to be from the planet earth era. I have the same issue with those songs as the songs on planet earth though. For some reason Prince`s voice kind of felt different, weaker than before around that time. Did Prince have some issues with his voice around that time?

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I still have to listen to the EP, but I'm really excited that finally something new came out, and judgin' by the posts of all of you it seems a nice work, well fitting in the P legacy.

To be honest, I'm curious to see what effect will have the Estate lawsuit on the release of the EP.

I can't think of a release planned like this seems to be not founded on something strong, legally talking.

I surely hope the CD release will see the light of the day, at now I'm not sure it will realise.

Anyway, I'm thankful to the guy who made this unexpected little gem available.

Nice to be able to listen again to P, like it was still on here.

Deliverance is great track, but who know's how different it would sound if Prince had finished it.

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Good song guys. Quit bitching. He is talking 2 us from tha grave. Listen.

Where is everyone managing to hear the whole ep?

2freaky4church1 said:

Good song guys. Quit bitching. He is talking 2 us from tha grave. Listen.

I'm hearing.... "Don't Buy The Black Album".

Who do we reckon the female voice on I Am is? Sounds like Hannah to me but that would conflict with the supposed dates of when these were recorded wouldn't it?

thisisreece said:

Deliverance is great track, but who know's how different it would sound if Prince had finished it.

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Who cares?!?!?

What really matters is that is a great track (and I have still to listen to it, I'm writing this according to what I read here).

We have for years and years comments on how "The Long And Winding Road" was destroyed by the Phil Spector arrangement.....

... and when I finally listened to the original version that McCartney released on "Let It Be...Naked" I thinked myself: "Whaaaaatt?!?"

The two best things that have happened since his passing is that Montreux 2013 DVD and Deliverance were released. As a result, no one gets paid and the fans get the music. These are two very high quality releases. The "official" releases have been a weak repackaged set of Prince's movies and a weak repackaged set of Prince's hits and one unreleased song that we already had. The more that I think about it the more that I realize that he designed it this way. He is laughing his ass off in heaven that Universal can't buy the vault. He is laughing his ass off that WB can't fully execute their plan do to conflicting agreements that Prince had with other entities. No streaming service has all of his stuff, by design. Prince created this web of a mess with the thought that it would be very difficult for others to profit from his music. In the end we get his music. We are the beneficiaries of his will. Maybe there is more to the peer to peer distribution idea than we thought. He wants us to manage his vault.

soladeo1 said:

Deliverance, the song, is TIGHT. Love the impassioned, raw vocals, the surging melody, hell even the added production! Better than Moonbeam Levels???

No.

RODSERLING said:

rogifan said:

RODSERLING said: Who had the authority to release music last year?

PR Deluxe : WB

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P and M tour / BLACK IS THE NEW BLACK : the estate. These albums exist, it doesn't take 10 years to release them.

It would have been a better idea than to release 4EVER.

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Except you're wrong. It is obvious that WBR had a "new music needs to be presented to us first" deal with Prince. Moreover, the estate isn't settled. There are lots of unknowns, and thus no sane company would touch any of that, let alone invest in it. Note how WBR is only dealing with things that were signed off on before Prince's death.

soladeo1 said:

Deliverance, the song, is TIGHT. Love the impassioned, raw vocals, the surging melody, hell even the added production! Better than Moonbeam Levels???

Oh hell yes, Easily.

Calling this better than moonbeam levels is sacrilege by the denyers of historical context.

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Is it me or are some songs truncated somewhat?

Wow!

I am digging this! Especially Deliverance & I Am.

Would love to have it on CD, but, I'll probably just stick with the files I "found" that were shared online as I haven't purchased a bootleg in nearly 20 years. And to be real, that's exactly what this is... a bootleg. It's shocking to me that this engineer thought he could get away with this (but I'm glad he did).

He's definitely exposed himself to some serious legal ramification and potential scorn from the industry.

Regardless, so cool to hear some "new" stuff. Makes me long for Black Is The New Black even more than I already did...

blizzybiz said:

bluegangsta said:

At least they exist.

Here's the thing. I'm agnostic. I don't believe everything that Prince says about God, Jesus, etc., but I'm acrutely interested in hearing someone like Prince sing about something he is obviously very passionate about. Without that passion I don't think that Prince would be the artist he was.

I'm secure enough in my belief, or lack thereof, to be openminded and listen to what he has to say and try to understand why he is so religious/what drove his beliefs. I just can't understand people who are so closed to anything outside of what they believe.

I can't speak for the original poster but...I can't listen to Prince acting like the equivalent of a street preacher on a record. As it is, I have difficulty reconciling liking Prince's music and artistry with the fact he'd have hated me for being LGBT, because he was such a virulent homophobe in his later years.